#shared spaces

[latenightskycotl]

“that spinny guy” put a stool down that let me into the “mirror realm” under the home area for Season of the Blue Bird. Everything under the surface is as real as its counterpart above. However, there is no floor. I ran out of flight and started slowly sinking. You don’t fall like normal, just slowly drift down, down, down.

[abyssfriedphotos]

NO BUTTERFLIES WERE HARMED IN THE MAKING OF THIS !!! 🦋

Just a mech I built sometime last week to get to the tower top a lil easier

I love how chill butterfly charmer is about this

Also, this made me cackle a lil. I don't get many comments, but it does brighten my day.

[butasslyn]

[sysmedsaresexist]

When you said you're "extremely critical/borderline against shared spaces", what did you mean by that? /genq I'd love to hear a more detailed explanation on what your views on shared or separate spaces are

I'm going to just ramble about my experience and thoughts, and I would love for others to chime in. It's going under a cut.

I helped to run a semi large anti endo server focused on recovery, with opt-in syscourse channels for general venting, as many of the members were also active syscoursers, and that shit is stressful, especially at the time, for those who remember

Eventually, I came to agree that pro endo CDD systems deserved access to these spaces, and we amended our rules, and the syscourse channels remained open for respectful debate and genuine support for the stress

This actually worked, but only for one reason

Our rules dictated the server's core beliefs on CDDs. This fact was non debatable, and it was the only reason the server experienced general peace.

CDDs were trauma based.

That's it.

Personal beliefs shouldn't prevent anyone from getting support, EVER

And yet, there were still those who were excluded

I've talked before about why I feel this exclusion is justified.

The safety and care of anti endo CDD systems trumped the right to access of those who were non-disordered (not touching on the debate of whether you can be a non-disordered DID system here, my thoughts on that are very clear in other posts). To this day, I still understand why antis are antis. The misinformation and real-world threats to CDD research are terrifying.

And this was a recovery focused server before it was a syscourse server.

We had to draw the line somewhere for the safety of our members' mental health. You may not understand, but for most members of the server, this was a massive relief. The pro endo CDD systems were marked as "safe" systems because we shared the same base belief, and topics that expanded from there felt safer-- like people bringing their spirituality into it felt safer because it was pre-agreed that trauma played a significant role.

It was in this space and at this time that a good chunk of the mixed origin community came to this conclusion about themselves-- this period where topics and exploration felt so much safer without having to have the syscourse talk beforehand to see if you even wanted to interact with that person

You already knew you weren't going to have to fight about your CDD

But this means that no space can be syscourse free, you either need to state your stance or there will be arguments

The base fact of whether CDDs are trauma based is SO TOUCHY that if two systems exist in a space, this is going to come up eventually-- a gaming server (already happened to me), or whatever random server topic exists, if two systems recognize each other, that's it

And God forbid the mods are uneducated, we've all seen servers completely burned to the ground because this happened and they were torn to shreds publicly for picking a side just to stop their members from bickering

You may have only heard of it once it crashed, but it started with two systems, and the server being forced to take a stance, even if that stance is "no syscourse"

Even "no syscourse" is met with complaints because how DO you know if it's safe?

I don't think it's possible to have a truly endogenic safe CDD space that doesn't still exclude some members of the endogenic community, or vice versa, a space for endogenic systems that can truly cater to the needs and intricacies of CDD systems

Maybe it's more that I'm very pessimistic about it, rather than against, but I've got thoughts and a line that I refuse to budge on

To some, this still makes me anti endo

But to people that are traumatized, knowing exactly what you're going into, what to expect, and knowing that space is 100% safe is important, and I have always tried to prioritize that

It's why I've never joined another system server. As a syscourser, and as someone with opinions, this is going to come up eventually. I am not a safe person to most of the community, previously because I was anti endo, and now because I'm pro endo.

But unless I know what I'm going into and that I'm going to be able to keep my mouth shut, I'm just not going to go, because I'm so goddamn tired of syscourse and I need that goddamn safe space

But the safe space can't exist unless it has a stance

But it can't have a stance without excluding someone and being unsafe to some members of the community

Round and round until I just give up on shared spaces altogether

[themothinboots]

i love seeing shared spaces in aviary. the skykids looked at this empty abandoned place and wasted no time making it homely

[wilde-foxgloves]

Lineart again I am feeling too tired to color it

Skytober Day 15 - Helping Spirits, submitted late. Skytober Day 16 - Shared Spaces, submitted on time. October 16th, 2024

[sparkler-parent]

Someone built this car in a shared space and I was really impressed by it.

🎵 Nothing in the world belongs to me but my love, mine all mine 🎶

[pinkgoblinshark]

Hey Skyblr, how we feeling about shared spaces right now? The more specific thing I wanna ask is: has anyone else been ticked off by how shared spaces seemingly shrank in terms of how many items you can place? I was inspired to make this post mainly because my friend (a more avid builder than I) has been complaining about it, but I've been tinkering with things and now its bugging the hell out of me too. What bothers me more is how seemingly no one on the Sky Discord (save for a small handful) or Tumblr seems to be talking about this, so I should start the conversation I suppose.

To start, before I began writing this post I was looking at the "shared spaces" tag to see if someone had talked about this before me. No dice, but I did come across this lovely shared space by skycotl-before-and-after. To try and prove that shared spaces shrunk, I tried recreating the space shown in their post. I don't have all the items they have, but that doesn't matter because I couldn't even fit the things I do have (these being the shelves, pots, manta plushie, and wind chimes) before maxing out on space.

For another example, I was looking through my Discord DMs and found a shared space I had made on May 9th of this year. I tried remaking it, and while I consider it to be less complex than skycotl-before-and-after's shared space, I still found myself not being able to place all of the items I could place before. Some configurations were more efficient than others, allowing for me to place more items, though the point is that I can't place all of the items I was able to before.

The final nail in this coffin is that from the Sky Discord, I have heard of the shared space size reductions resulting in people being unable to finish the final quest for the Remembrance guide. I could not go back and do the quest for realsies, but as a refresher, to complete that quest you need to place, at minimum: the wind chimes, the kettle, the potted plant, and the manta and crab plushies. With the size reduction, I found that I only had space for those first three items. You could probably do different configurations to fit the most items in there, but the point is that it seems like you cannot get them all in there, which means you would be totally unable to complete the quest.

Last thing I want to note is that how many items you can place seems to vary from place to place. In the Daylight Prairie Shared Space Shrine, I found that I could place 1 tent, 2 shelves, 1 wind chime, and 1 pot (possibly 2?) before maxing out on items. In the Birds Nest area using a spell, I found that I could place only a tent, a shelf, and 1 pot before maxing out.

As someone who wants to build up a collection of props to build with, this item quantity nerf frustrates not just me, but also my friend, who spent actual human monies on props they can't fully utilize anymore. With how few people I've seen discussing this though, I hope we aren't mutually going crazy...

[picklesthenonbeanary]

Skytober day 16

Prompt: shared spaces

[anonimusunnoan]

So apparently if you go into the cave in the 8 player door space Ceasing Commodore comes to tell you to stop being such an introvert and get back out.

Also yes. I made my shared space in here. It's got a dance floor a cushion and plushie bed and campfires too 🩷🩵🩷🩵🩷🩵

[latenightskycotl]

Elmo!

[abyssfriedphotos]

happy holidays!!! ❄️🌌☃️🌃✨️

HAVE A CREATURE!🕊

Some sort of mechanical bird-y dragon-y manta-y thing that likes festive tunes, I guess. Idk what it is necessarily, but I think they are pretty, and somehow, the space ended up with a really nice color palette with the blues, purples, white, grays, and yellow. I don't usually pay attention to that sort of thing with spaces, but it happens from time to time.

Also I made sure to put a chair in the back so people could get into the snow globe and use the cat on the piano to escape in style ✨️

[butasslyn]

I'm so amazed what ppl create with shared spaces 👀

[melted-mercury]

Days Of IKEA or something

I love making pillow forts so I'm in love with this event already, I spent the last hour building this

[vienna-city]

Mariahilferstrasse Now and Then.