#source material/adaptation differences

[vint-knight]

Athena and Zeus in The Odyssey:

Athena: Yo, this man has been staying way too long on this and has suffered enough of bs, can we let him free?

Zeus: *shrugs* Sure, Hermes tell Calypso to let him free

Athena and Zeus in Epic The Musical:

Athena: *heavy breathing after dealing with 6 gods* Alright I've beaten your games, can you free him now

Zeus: FUCKING PERISH 🦅🦅🦅🦅⚡⚡⚡🦅🦅🦅🦅

New version that is now based on my perspective from listening to God Games more:

Athena: *heavy breathing after dealing with 6 gods* Alright I've beaten your games, can you free him now

Zeus: Yeah, no sorry but you make me ashamed of you AND kinda myself, mostly you because you are going all this way to free a mortal and this in front of a lot of people sooo... *lightning blast*

Zeus's part is Okay, but I like a bit more now from thinking more on a deeply on it instead of thinking of it as just Zeus throwing a hissy fit (Also vocal wise I love how deep Luke Holt's voice gets in that section so there's a plus for that)

[h0estar]

honestly, maybe the producers/directors were going at this strategically because we have to remember that animes and mangas are only mediums to PROMOTE the source material. if they do something different in the anime adaptation, people are bound to express their disappointment and encourage the anime watchers to go for the light novels. if it leads to more sales, then what's a few scrapped lines right? it might even encourage a s3 production in the future. in a way it's a good marketing strat but also like damn </3

[marzipanandminutiae]

Oh god, Mike Flanagan's adapting Carrie?

So I'm guessing Margaret's actually a wonderful loving mother deep down somehow because Family Is Everything, and Carrie is gay but not for someone logical like Sue or even Chris. She's gay for...um...Donna Kellogg! Yep! So groundbreaking!

[interviewthatvampire]

One thing I've noticed about this fandom (don't get me wrong, I love it here) is that you guys love to argue with each other over stupid shit and speak for actors that you don't actually know in real life.

Just like every other fandom. Glad to see it never changes, I guess.

[expensivemistake]

The thing about Chip Zdarsky's daredevil run is that it takes inspiration from the Netflix show and forces that into the comic continuity, but it doesn't even lean into the elements I personally love about Netflix Matt?

He's not perfect, but NMCU Matt at his best is shown to be deeply compassionate and has such a rather warm demeanour to him. When he's happy (especially in college-aged flashbacks) he's really expressive. Women like him because he comes across as thoughtful, rather than being a womaniser. And there's no question as to whether he loves Elektra or not, considering he spends most of the Defenders trying to get through to her.

Not to mention that his Catholicism is deeply personal and certainly not devout. He's a person who grew up around religion and is uniquely attuned to the suffering around him, trying to work out his place in being a man of the people.

None of these traits are inherently better than 616 comic Matt, or even drastically different (although I do think they're fundamentally different characters who I like for different reasons).

But I guess my point is that... it feels like Zdarsky's Matt is based mostly off the "he's an emo Catholic who dresses like a devil to let out his anger and also sleeps with loads of women" jokes based on people's perceptions of Netflix Matt, without adapting a lot of the likeability and nuance that made me like him in the first place.

[fullmetal-scar-simping]

Truly wish mangahood fans would just tell first time Brotherhood watchers to read the manga first to get all the context they need to make Brotherhood suck 1% less, instead of suggesting the broke-ass, tired "watch 03 until it diverges" nonsense.

These continuities do not line up. They do not click into each other. The characters in 03 are fundamentally different from mangahood, the events of fma 03 from episode 1 are fundamentally different to !the manga! let alone to Brotherhood. The way alchemy itself works is fundamentally different and that's pretty obvious when you compare mangahood and 03! So how are you going to funnel newbies into mangahood by feeding them half of 03?

I know we're all hoping new fans are as incapable of engaging with what they're actually watching as most existing fma fans, but it would make far more sense to prepare them by having them actually read the source material that Brotherhood is actually adapting, not an anime that Brotherhood has nothing to do with.

[mxtxfanatic]

I cannot stress this enough, but using The Untamed/CQL to “contextualize” the novel mdzs is like using the movie Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief (2010) to understand the Percy Jackson and the Olympians book series. American readers know…

[daisywords]

regarding adaptations, I can tolerate and enjoy basically any level of change from the source material, as long as it's done with appreciation and sincerity and love. however,

[sabreurs]

i'm of the opinion that there are times for a faithful adaptation and times for some leeway. a lot of this has to do with what the adaptation is advertised as. if it's advertised as a super faithful adaptation, it better be super faithful, and it can be ripped apart for failing at this. if it's not, then it shouldn't be judged on how closely it adapts the og story and rather how well it tells the new story.

edit: where the fuck did i say comparison isn't allowed. this post is specifically abt expectations. how well something tells the story includes comparing if it improves upon the old version (did this change add something). i didn't think i needed to specify this bc i assumed we could read.

[vint-knight]

Odyssey!Polites: *swine noises*

Epic Polites: Ah, how interesting you got to live long enough to be at Circe's island, I sadly got killed by the Cyclops *chuckle*

Odyssey! Polites: *intrigued swine noises*

Epic Polites: Yeah... got killed, still thinking of open arms

Odyssey! Polites: *pauses and lets out a confused sniff*

Epic Polites: Oh right!, I had this whole thing after the war, where I saw that Ody was looking unhappy, so I decided, since we didn't have any enemies anymore, I tried to show him ways to greet the world with "open arms"

Odyssey! Polites: *small amused snort*

Epic Polites: *chuckles* I know, I know, it was quite foolish of me to do, *let's out a cheeky grin* at least it's better than being stuck permanently on an island...

Odyssey! Polites: *offended squeal*

Epic Polites: Hey, I died while in combat!, even then I'm kidding around, both of us met unfortunate ends

Based on @mircsy's recent post!

[gen-is-gone]

Yeah, Wicked the musical sure is uh. Extremely different from Wicked the book, huh?

[no1ryomafan]

My main focus of video essays rn is the Kikaider one-which is only a bit stuck in limbo since I have not gotten feedback on my script rip-and I’m trying to hold back on doing ideas until/if I even enjoy the process past the scripts but I’ve been rotating in my head on doing a ranking video for all of imagawas mechas cause he’s still the one dude who’s adaptations have had a profound impact on me so at the very least I wanna rank them either as a video or at most as a post just the problem comes 1. I will be ABSOLUTELY jumped for my ranks even if I’ll give genuine criticism 2. I need to still watch shin tetsujin and finish shin mazinger and neither of those have been a compelling thing for me to do, putting aside I may be mecha fatigue as per usual but I worry to go into them and get a mixed or negative reaction- especially with the second one that I’ve literally put off for years 💀

[widogast-ta]

It was cool to see Sam talk about the difficult of adapting the Mighty Nein show into complete seasons, given the more meandering/less-easily-divisible-into-clean-arcs their story is. I’m really excited to see what they do with it

[crowswarm]

i feel like a lot of the discourse on twitter about the new dmc anime is coming from the wrong place. like on one hand im in my mind thinking "god you guys just don't know how to have fun" but on the other i don't think netflix dmc. is good. i don't think that the show had a responsibility to be reverent to its source material and i think new interpretations of characters is fine. the problem with the dmc anime is not that it interprets established characters and lore in a new way but that it does it poorly overall

[demonir]

The protag of the Sweet Home webtoon was such a real motherfucker because he was too depressed and pessimistic to feel moved by regular “your life matters! There are reasons to live for!” types of speeches but he stayed alive and his main and only reason was because the movie to his favorite piece of media hadn’t released yet and he couldn’t die without watching it

In the end he grows and develops as a person and finds other reasons to live but if he hadn’t been so obsessed with that piece of media that it kept him alive then he wouldn’t have been able to reach that point in his life so my point is

Be insane about your interests, let them be the reason you wake up every morning and let them be the reason why you change and grow because you will find that spark you think your life is missing

But you have to stay alive long enough for it to happen

[pagesofkenna]

i really like fullmetal alchemist (the manga) but i have friends who were really into fullmetal alchemist (the 2003 anime adaptation) and trying to talk about FMA with them is like talking with someone who thinks the AU fanfic is the source material