#spn newsletter

[sallysetoncore]

open letter to @spn-newsletter​,

i want you to fucking ban me. this is me trying to get banned. you don’t like creators who spread hate? i fucking hate wincest. i fucking hate hate hate hate hate hate hate wincest. not enough? i hate rpf. i think it’s fucking weird.

“stevie, you’re being rude, why don’t you just say no?” well, funny, you should say that, because i already did:

i said no. i was cordial. i was told i was put on your DNI list.

twice, i was promised this. (i dmed the twitter account before i saw that i had a response on my ao3 comment, which is the above screenshot).

and that was on 'dear brother’, a fic that i am pouring my fucking heart into by updating almost DAILY about two brothers. and you made sure it was going directly to people who have clicked a box that says “yes, i want wincest fic directly in my inbox”.

but i thought it was all over.

then, for my 20th birthday, june 4th, i write a little  fic of dean sitting in a motel room. that’s the whole fic. literally nothing happens for 1,400 words. he just sits there. and it’s deeply personal and i wrote down that it was personal:

besides, i thought i was on a DNI list. and then:

and i didn’t see this comment until 1am my time on the night of the 6th, because sometimes i do have a life, particularly on the weekend of my  birthday, and i got a little angrier.

and ya know. i was scrolling today through comments and realized i never got a response on this like i did on the other.

but, that’s fine, right? because i’m on the DNI list?

well, here i am on the june 5th newsletter. #5,021

so this is my final call.

put me on a goddamn fucking DNI list and actually do not fucking interact with me. is this enough? have i broken your hate policy enough? am i a villain yet?

and i will not dignify “but you posted it on a public forum!!!” with a response because this is about human courtesy and doing what you said you would do. every time i open my email and see that instead of a comment about how much they loved my characterization or whatever, i have another message from y’all, my heart breaks a little.

i don’t care if you’re a “staple of this fandom” or whatever. i don’t want you on my fics.

do not interact with me.

period.

- Stevie / alan-j-corbett / gracelessbeliever on ao3

p.s. it says ‘account deleted’ so i can’t even block you if i wanted to (i want to)

[heavenssexiestangel]

I was once more featured in the @spn-newsletter!

I uhm didn't find out until now because I used to get a comment from them on AO3 telling me one of my fics would get featured (and it's happening so often, I'm so honored???). But their account seems to be gone now? Do you know what happened to it?

Anyway, this time the featured fic is Of New Houses & Found Family, which I originally wrote for @supernaturalquaranzine Vol. 4!

[bamby0304]

Totally forgot to post this mast month because of busy-ness... but look!! A thing!! I was part of a thing!!

[idreamofhazel]

The Boyking was rec’d in yesterdays SPN Newsletter!

[theyoungforest]

January Newsletter, includes reviews of All of Us, Kate Beaton's Ducks, a short essay on my lack of empathy, and fanart of cas and ATLA.

[jacobglaser]

Time to relax, have a drink and read my favourite newsletter, surely nothing can go wro-

Oh no.

x

[angelsdean]

[magdaclaire]

where do i sign up for deans emails?

It's the Dear Brother substack! You type your email in and sign up right there on the first page <3

I unfortunately do not remember who runs it, or I would tag!

[destielhands]

My brother and I were watching 12x20, and in one scene Mary goes to look at e-mails. Somehow both my brother and I managed to misread the titles, I though the monthly newsletter was actually "mommy newsletter" and my brother thought extended stay was "extended slay". We were kinda giggly about it until he said those things with the driest delivery ever as Alicia was getting stabbed. The way the dagger went through her and he just went "extended slay" made both of us laugh for 10 minutes. This is the episode that finally broke us, and it wasn’t even that bad, spn just causes insanity at some point and we have reached it.

[fellshish]

i know i’ll certainly regret asking this. but. spn vore perfume genius?

In the midst of the post confession spnsanity musical artist perfume genius started sending out newsletters in which he claimed he had sex with every actor from supernatural and the phrase ‘eyesbyebye’ was born and apparently he didn’t know about fanfiction or what vore was but he learned it from fans reacting to his writings and also some of us are still eagerly (and somewhat with dread) anticipating the misha collins one

[sallysetoncore]

fuck spn newsletter all my homies hate spn newsletter

[heavenssexiestangel]

Just noticed I appeared in the @spn-newsletter again but accidentally under Gen fics LOL

Thank you so much :)

[spnfanficpond]

Weekly Pond Newsletter

There may not be a newsletter next week, so keep an eye on our calendar (links at the bottom) for anything that comes up! To ask forgiveness for missing a week, have a nice Jensen gif:

Old Business:

Fic Highlight - We did another fic highlight! It's a Destiel Russian mob AU that both fluffy and bloody as hell. Click here for our review!

SPN Rewatch: Fanfic Edition - We had a great chat yesterday about the episodes 2.05 Simon Said and 2.06 No Exit! Click here to access the Archive and read what we discussed in the episode docs!

Last week's #TweetFicTues prompts were -

New Business:

Fishing For Treasures - Next weekend is FFT weekend at the @fanficocean! May's theme is Pairings (especially Rarepairs)! Be sure to head over there next weekend and see what wild and wonderful rare pairings people have come up with outside of the SPN fandom!

Sun Spin Stageit - Next weekend Michae Rosenbaum and his partner in music will be performing for a virtual audience on Friday at 8pm EDT. Click here for info and to buy tickets!

Question for YOU - We are considering starting up something akin to the Angel Fish Awards, but where writers tell us about awesome comments they've received on their fics! Admin Michelle spent some time during her chat yesterday bandying about different names, but didn't come up with anything that really spoke to her. Angel Turtle Awards? Ninja Angel Turtle Awards? Raphael Awards? (Because, you know, he was a TMNT and an archangel.) What do you guys think? Let us know in replies and reblogs!

(Divider by @glygriffe!)

That's all for this week! To see all Pond events, and also other SPN-related things like conventions and online concerts, check out our Google calendar! Click here for a static view in Eastern US/Canada time (desktop only, no mobile app access, sadly), and click here to add our calendar to your own Google calendar! We try to keep it as up-to-date as possible. If there's something you want to see on the calendar that's not there (maybe a convention we missed, cast birthdays, or something similar), send us an ASK and let us know!

Hope you have a great week! - From your Admins and Manta Rays, @manawhaat, @mrswhozeewhatsis, @mariekoukie6661, @thoughtslikeaminefield, and @heavenssexiestangel!

[brotherwifesoncodeddean]

i just found the spn newsletter that ended only in 2022 and had been going on since 2006, and is still up as a centralized archive of fanworks. like every fourth link u click on is dead but the beautiful angel the wayback machine comes through. even found this fanvid with "i will always return" from the fucking spirit stallion of the cimarron soundtrack, uploaded when s1 was still airing, if not when it was just wrapping up [no timestamp available so i can't be sure].

i would love to upload what else i can find to a yt acct to make these more accessible but i'm already wrapped up with enough shit as it is. its only bc of an automatic data crawler that uploaded it's data to wayback in 2010 that even a crumb of 2006 spn mvs can even be found.

[sunnydaleherald]

The Sunnydale Herald Newsletter, Monday, April 22 - Tuesday, April 23 Part I

KENNEDY: And this is gonna help us how? DAWN: The sand forms a circle. The circle acts as a barrier. And the barrier contains the portal. KENNEDY: Now what? We hold hands and chant kumbaya or something? WILLOW: Maybe. 'Til we get the magicks up and running, I'm kinda working on my best guess here. XANDER: Will, maybe we should wait. KENNEDY: For what? XANDER: Spike - to see if he can bring back that demon. WILLOW: No, I don't think we should wait right now. Opening a portal this size could take days. KENNEDY: Better get started. WILLOW: I think I might pee my pants. KENNEDY: You can do it - the magicks, not the pants thing.

~~Buffy Season 7 Episode #137: "Get It Done"~~

[Drabbles & Short Fiction]

Who’s Boss (Buffy/Spike, T) by veronyxk84

Tiefling Xander (Ensemble, T) by Baldur

When the Morning Comes (Buffy/Riley, T) by MadeInGold

Cleanup on Aisle Five (Buffy/Spike, M) by Soulburnt

[Chaptered Fiction]

Hand in Flightless Hand Ch. 3/9 (Buffy/Spike, E) by tragicbynight

Love Bites Ch. 4 (Buffy/Spike, E) by cawthraven

A Different Path Ch. 9 (Buffy/Faith, M) by Anaxilea

In the Company of Witches and Slayers: Ch. 15/200 (Willow/Tara, E) by VladimirHarkonnen (TheLightdancer)

I Don't Want to Be the One Ch. 11/40 (Buffy/Spike, T) by pommedapi

Never Let Me Down Again Ch. 8 (Buffy/Angel, M) by BuildMeUpButtercup_x

Kiss Me Twice Ch. 1 (Buffy/Spike, E) by Geliot99

Goodbye to Everything That I Knew Ch/ 30/30 COMPLETE (Buffy/Spike, M) by My_Barbaric_Yawp

Angel Doesn’t Know Ch. 3 (Buffy/Spike, Angel/Cordelia, E) by My_Barbaric_Yawp

What the Poets Don’t Tell You Ch. 1 (Buffy/Spike, unrated) by norkadearest

The Boring Stuff: Reptile Boy Ch. 5 (Buffy/Angel, M) by missfiggy

You’re my always Ch. 7/7 COMPLETE (Willow/Tara, T) by Shipper_wlw

Omission Ch. 10 (Riley/Spike, E) by toutes_les_routes

Keep Your Enemies Closer, Chapter 9 (Buffy/Spike, T) by disco-tea

A Ripple In Time, Chapter 2-5 (Buffy/Spike, E) by CheekyKitten

Saving You, Chapter 1 (Buffy/Spike, E) by Spikelover4ever

A Second Chance- Their Story, Chapter 9 (Buffy/Spike, E) by Loup Noir

Kiss Me Twice, Chapter 1 (Buffy/Spike, E) by Geliot99

Spike Has A Girlfriend, Chapter 5 (Buffy/Spike, E) by Spikelover4ever

Haunted Hearse, Chapter 1 (Buffy/Spike, E) by simmony

Love Lives Here, Chapter 52 (Buffy/Spike, E) by Passion4Spike

Lil' Ripper Makes a Friend, Chapter 41 (Buffy/Spike, E) by Soulburnt

Maclay Down, Chapter 1 (Buffy/Spike, E) by Soulburnt

Early One Morning , Chapter 35 (Buffy/Spike, E) by all choseny

The Neighbor's Point of View, Chapter 100 (Buffy/Spike, G) by the_big_bad

Hello Cutie, Chapter 6 (Buffy/Spike, E) by CheekyKitten

Centerfold, Chapter 3 (Buffy/Spike, E) by Passion4Spike, Passion4Spike, MissLuci

So It Goes..., Chapter 1 (Buffy/Spike, E) by scratchmeout

Title For Sale, Chapter 1 (Buffy/Spike, T) by Desicat

Love Lives Here, Chapter 52 (Buffy/Spike, E) by Passion4Spike

Lie to Me, Chapter 25 (Buffy/Spike, E) by In Mortal

Bathroom Wall, Chapter 3 (Buffy/Spike, G) by hulettwyo

Sculpture of Dance , Chapter 13 (Buffy/Spike, M) by Desicat

Hi Granny!, Chapter 2 (Buffy/Spike, G) by Desicat

Conflict Management Ch. 1 (Buffy, E, SPN xover) by holetoledo

[Images, Audio & Video]

Manip: Photoshoot (Buffy/Spike) by disco-tea

Manip: Spike in Barbieland by disco-tea

Artwork:Decided to celebrate my love of Buffy with a new tattoo by LittleRhodey

Artwork:Episode Poster: ATS 218. Dead End () by tmcarlee

Artwork:Spike () by isevery0nehereverystoned

Manip:BtVS Season 7 headers () by onegirlinallthewrld

[Reviews & Recaps]

BTVS/Angel Rewatch Chronicles: Seasons 6/3, Part One by QualifiedApathetic

Mothman’s Buffy Rewatch, Season 3, episode 3, “Faith, Hope, and Trick” by mothmans-wedding-photographer

Season 5 episode 6: family by mybuffysittersavampireslayer

Various thoughts on Buffy s7 e21+22 by pinksparkl

PODCAST: Episode 25 - Hang on to Your Ovipositor! (Bad Eggs) by The Sunnydale Diaries

PODCAST: ATS 214 - The Thin Dead Line by Another Buffy Podcast

[Community Announcements]

Tuesday Prompt: Spring by comment-fic

[queerwolfsstuff]

TW: mentions of bullying, suicidal ideation, and a toxic fangroup in the SPN fandom

This is all I’ll say about the recent revelations, and forewarning, a lot of swearing ahead:

I have a genuine question. Why is the Supernatural fandom as toxic as it is? Don't get me wrong, there are pockets of joy and wonder, forces for good, and a mobilization for worthy causes I have yet to see in any fandom except maybe that of the Our Flag Means Death fandom (albeit on a slightly smaller scale, and there’s quite a bit of crossover).

Like quite a few of you, I curated my own little chunk of paradise in this fandom in making three amazing, true friends (@anyreiart, @eyesofatragedy67, and @punk-is-notdead), and while I don't actively engage very much with the rest of the fandom, because it overwhelms me, the few times I have, have been generally good experiences. Has it all been sunshine and gay angel rainbows? No.

All of us have experienced negative things in some capacity. A rude comment on art or fanfiction, specifically in mine and Any’s case: a relatively well known fandom persona told people not to read the last chapter of one of our fics, and that was because that person didn't like a section of the last chapter. I’m sure that person justified to themselves that telling other people not to read someone’s work was some sort of, misguided warning, and all because that one person didn't like one part of our fanfiction. But I digress, we have seen the capacity for toxicity, but a lot of the time that has been part of the “ship war” discourse. Again, in our case, it was a brief negative interlude with a mod at the now closed SPN newsletter.

All water under a murky bridge, but the revelations of late are absolutely abhorrent. Fandom to me, as someone who has been involved in several fandoms for the past 22 years, has always been a safe space, especially as a neurodivergent queer person. I started at 17, in the fandom for the wizard boy series I won't say because of the TERF who shall not be named, but it was… not like this.

Now it's very possible that I didn't see as much (hell, I had no idea about any of this SHACgate garbage until this week because I don't really interact with folx much), but unlike now, during the wizard boy series time, I was very active, accepted into elite LiveJournal communities and while I was never a “BNF”, I got to share spaces with some incredibly talented people. And I do not ever remember the sort of discourse I have seen in the Supernatural fandom. Not even whispers of it. Ship wars have been and sadly probably always will be a thing, but this infighting, vicious, manipulative, cult-like shit? Nah, man, at least not as far as I saw.

A majority of us recently found out in the SPN fandom, and specifically among the Destiel shippers, multiple adults in some elite discord server, got involved in multiple bullying campaigns over the years and toxic, (and let's be honest) evil fucking behavior all over the simplest, or even pettiest fucking things. And what kills me, is a good majority of the orchestrators and primary toxicity peddlers, say they are neurodivergent, and/or queer, and/or disabled. That means, statistically, they themselves have probably been bullied at some point in their lives.

Yet they still chose to harass, block and ignore, “mean girls” burn-book fellow fandom folx, supposedly even their friends, all because "so and so told me to" or because they felt justified in doing so for whatever seemingly honorable reason. Many people who have come forward about their previous or prior involvement state their participation or silence in these campaigns was for fear of retribution or cancellation. Which to a degree is perfectly understandable, but in chasing the divine, these participants compromised their own values, and just because they used their fame for good a lot, doesn't really balance out how they used their fame for evil, too. Personally, I don't think it works like that.

But I'm not here to soapbox about the morality and ethics of their choices. Either they know they did bad things and are working toward undoing the damage and darkness, or they're going to continue to blame others and refuse accountability by releasing disingenuous apologies that essentially equate to, "He only gets mean when he drinks." Either way, that's between them, their friends and family, and their flying spaghetti monster.

No, what I’m genuinely confused about is why the toxicity in the SPN fandom seems so particularly… PG&E in Erin Brockovich about things. I mean, come on. Seriously? A bunch of grown ass adults bullying people, sending death threats, doxxing, harassing, pulling some high school bullshit, block and ignore tactics to dehumanize and traumatize people, some even to the point of suicidal ideation? I'm sorry, that’s fucking gross and this whole goddamn thing is fucking ridiculous. Especially if these perpetrators were bullied themselves at some point in their lives.

And don't get me wrong, with a history of loving problematic ships, I absolutely live for redemption arcs for villains, but the reality is, there needs to be a glimmer of goodness inside for that to work, and how any adult can think that sort of behavior is okay, or justified … I don't know. Some of the perpetrators may be past a redemption arc. Too far gone. In Ted Lasso (spoiler obvs) everybody got a redemption arc except for Rupert, and that was because he was irredeemable.

This behavior should be irredeemable, but that’s my personal opinion, and everyone is allowed their own. But I will admit, even my own opinion can waver. There needs to be a sense of sincerity in the first step, which is accepting responsibility and apologizing, hence why I don’t think every single person who participated is irredeemable.

I applaud the victims, those who were hurt, in finding the ability to forgive their bullies, and I also applaud those who have drawn strict boundaries. At the end of the day, the perpetrators are the ones who will have to live with the fact they chose to commit these acts and ruin fandom entirely for someone.

I don't care if it was all orchestrated by some mastermind lone wolf evil caricature of a Destiel shipper, or a select few wannabe Legion of Doom motherfuckers, your decisions are your own. Your choices were made, and when a friend told you that so and so was mean/bad/wrong, you attacked without a second thought, and why? Up until this past week, you were reaping the benefits of your elite status and living your best lives, enjoying your fandom experience. Maybe you felt safe and content with your ingroup, maybe you didn’t, but you were probably enjoying yourself. Now, how would you feel if someone did to you what you have documentedly done to others? Chased you off of social media, doxxed you, harassed you, made you feel unsafe when you unlock your phone? I won’t deny, to some extent, some of you probably have had tastes of those attacks from outsiders, but never from within, because you had the protection of your BNF cohorts. And luckily, for you, the majority of us don’t believe in bullying, so you’re never going to have to truly find out what that feels like, but I hope you think about it.

You know what happened when someone was mean to one of my friends? I stood up for said friend, while remaining calm and collected, then proceeded to block and be done with it. I didn’t reply or engage when their response turned vicious. The entire exchange was out in the open, on a public thread, and name-calling and gaslighting only ever came from one side, and it wasn't mine. I get the urge to be protective, I do, but did it just not ever occur that you can be protective of people you care about without resorting to bullying tactics? And if you have to commit these acts for fear you'll lose your fame, your place in a server, your "friend", then you've proven you don't care about people outside of what they can do for you.

A demon some of these perpetrators will need to exorcise if they truly want to learn and grow from this.

Anyway, I don't understand how or why that sickness of bullying to such a horrific extent thrived for so long in this fandom. And continues to thrive in other pockets of the fandom. Why? Why the fuck are so many adults in this fandom such childish bullies? And it's not even like we can blame it on the younger, newer fans, because they’re the ones that end up being the victim half the time from the looks of things. A bunch of quarter-life approaching middle-age folx caused this and proved that a little bit of fame in the wrong hands turns people into monsters.

For the perpetrators, I hope no one does to you what you have done to countless people in this fandom. And even more, I hope no one does to you what you did to your victims who left the fandom entirely. May you never understand that pain.

For all of their victims, I hope you find peace and I'm glad you came forward to put a stop to this madness. It was scary, and how many friends and followers the perpetrators have, this could have gone the other direction, and ended very badly. Thankfully it didn't, and hell, you got someone who never really participates or engages in fandom discourse to write a TLDR freakin’ Tumblr post about it. I am sorry for everything you experienced.

As for the rest of us? We’ve got a helluva lot of work ahead if we want to turn the Supernatural fandom into a true, safe fandom space. But I think this could be a good place to start.