#tddup aria

[fagcifer]

a rare appearance on my blogs; women.

a good amount of eps prominent enough female characters are all in the lilac/ourple range. the colour purple sure can mean a lot of things but i have no idea what purple could mean for any of them, except for aria. the names aria KING and purple symbolised royalty or whatever.

the barely visible right arm and brown hair is cassiels. i cropped her out because im still trying to find a douyin art tutorial that fits her. i have posted the unfinished work before, but shell look better than last time. (hopeful)

this was supposed to be a warm up that took surprisingly long, because i took a nap half-way through.

discussing additional details on the girls; gave aria pearls because i think theyre classy. edit; though now looking back at it, maybe it shoulve been a dainty gold necklace. the pearls look too costumey to me now.

changed annabelle fashion genre(?) to himegyaru, or whatever the label is, i am still trying to learn the many sub culture. i think anna is supposed to be some sort of maybe gothic lolita type but uhhhh. i saw bows and lace and like, huh! the dress i have in my head is really cute. (more drawings of girls!)

and allen because B.G. ( ＾ω＾ )

have to express that i hate the wooden limbs sano had for his dolls. yeah its much more accessible than perhaps porcelain or resin but could he just,,, not use wood. insert a prosthetists or something.

id imagine the wood would eventually accumulate a certain, distinct smell after use, if the original wood didnt already have a distinct wood smell, then it certainly wood (badum-tss) after a while.

also also, annabelle used to look incredibly docile, almost meek, like a deer in headlight which i think was very cute. i dont know what changed, or maybe its just the fact that mc is also occupying the same space as her being the (future) resident doll that got her so snappy, and perhaps jealous and horrified of being replaced!

[xxaddisoncampbellxx]

Alright here are the Till Death Do Us Part characters in Gacha Life 2 (≧∇≦)/

(please let me know what you guys think, btw please do not interact with this post if you don't know the characters or the visual novel please and thank you :D)

[mrboogerlip]

Happy Birthday, Chris! (11/11/24)

I saw that today happened to be Chris's birthday, so I drew this on a whim! His 2 friends, which consists of his childhood friend and his sister, are here to celebrate with him!!

I'm sorry, I was trying to make fun of him in that last sentence, but really, that is practically like me, so how can I even say anything LOL XD

[1ceshr0om]

Okay, about 10 minutes…

[rjtbot]

AHHHHHHH YOU POST TDDUP STUFF I LOVE YOU!!!! Do you have any headcanons for Chris King or Aria King.

(I completely ignore that aria might be in love with Chris idc idc she is a bi queen to me)

Chris AND Aria headcanon: it's an emotional incest thing rather than a genuine crush, Aria is a really passionate, protective person, and Chris had no one else to confide in.

Chris headcanons:

what if I told you he's secretly more into Aria than she is into him....that's why he makes excuses to keep her around even if his spouse has a rocky relationship with her. I don't REALLY believe in that one, but it's silly to think about hehe

probably the safest character in the btd/adjacent games if you treat him right!!! it's not him you gotta worry about though :)

possibly also got BPD, but he's got the quiet/discourage type that makes him initially seem very submissive and dependant. truthfully he WANTS to be able to be dependant, which is why he likes the extreme bondage thingy that I forget the name of, and probably plays into any other kinks too

Aria headcanons:

BPD. she may struggle to stand up for herself, but as soon as you hurt someone she loves? she's ready to fight. she's that passionate about everyone in her life. there is no such thing as "acquaintances" - you either bond right away, or you don't.

"who has the biggest dick in tddup?" HER. her strap. (the canon answer is Chris according to an archive I saw)

one of the most spiteful, vengeful characters in the btd/adjacent games. worse than Derek. like she gets ASPD level rage when someone pisses her off.

[boyfriendtodeathconfessional]

For the anon asking, TDDUP lets you choose the route at the start when choosing your husband, and MC has a defined personality for each route.

There are 5 characters: Jack, Marcus and Chris as the ones you can choose, and Aria and Ellen, that has their own routes inside the main 3.

The inc*st part is from Aria towards Chris, I don't know if it's reciprocated but in one ending seems like Chris actually doesn't care (nothing is shown, just them talking).

Pd: Chris deserves love. (MC's attitude is abusive towards him in the game)

—jellyfish (I can't put my emoji rn it disappeared from keyboard)

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[btdtpofconfessions]

Chris king from TDDUP is underrated (I hate aria)

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[tweakerwolf]

Aria Endings Masterpost

Chris’s sister, the ball-busting bitch XD Well, she loves Chris, but if you are a player with balls, she definitely busts them- and anyone else that crosses her! Like Marcus’s ex-spouse, yea, busted their balls too. And once she gets you in the basement, well... you find out just how intense she really is!

Just a quick setup, since I don’t want to repeat the Chris part of the journey each time. Pick Chris’s route, for the heck of it, be extra mean (since Aria flat out isn’t going to like you anyways) and tell Chris “Stop wasting money” then skip ahead to the next choice. This time -leave- instead of confronting Chris. That will give you access to Aria’s route! The guides will start off with you storming out of the house right after you choose -leave- just for clarity (honestly, you can pick whichever choice you want for the very first branch but I had to pick one of them so I could write it and bold it but it is important that you leave the house instead of talk back to Chris).

Again, using they/them pronouns and numbers are going down then over to the top right. 

[side note: I like Aria’s route a lot, like from a play style perspective, not storyline (like, I do love the storyline but that is a different thing altogether lol). To me, there are real clear, fun dialogue branches. She has options that make your health go down, options that make your sanity go down, and then options that raise her heart level. With the way I play and study to reactions to dialogue, her path was the easiest for me and it allowed me to easily explore all of her dialogue throughout the endings :D]

1. Aria pushed you down the stairs.

2. You didn’t last.

3. Aria sold you.

4. Aria walled you in.

5. You stopped screaming.

[deaddreamweaver]

Till Death Do Us Part - Aria guide

So I decided to make another of these to help people out. Hopefully this does some good.

Aria pushed you down the stairs.

"Stop wasting money."

Leave

"I'm going to call the cops."

"There's nothing for us to talk about "

Don't do it

"Please don't, it hurts."

"You and Chris are really close."

"That's disgusting."

Try to escape

Keep trying

You didn't last

Say nothing

Leave

"It's my fucking house."

"What did I ever do to you?"

Don't do it

"Please don't, it hurts"

"I never gave you a chance."

Try to escape

Give up

"To go home."

Aria sold you

"I'm allergic."

Leave

"What do you want?"

"Is this about Chris?"

Do it

"I'm sorry."

"I want to apologize to Chris."

"You and Chris are really close."

"We could still be happy."

Go back to sleep

"More than this."

Scream

Beg her for more

Aria walled you in

Repeat Aria sold you but stop at 13

Beg her to stop

You stopped screaming

Say nothing

Leave

"I'm going to call the cops."

"Is this about Chris?"

Don't do it.

"I'm sorry."

"I really do mean it!"

"I used to admire you."

Try to escape

Give up

"Not this."

And that's all for Aria! Hopefully someone will find this useful.

[oyasuminto]

(🐉) Degrees Of Death Do Us Part: Rapechester is where Aria sells her sibling-in-law to.

GOD THAT'S COLD EVEN FOR ARIA

[xxaddisoncampbellxx]

I decided to rework Aria and Ellen from Till Death Do Us Part in Gacha Life 2 ˃͈◡˂͈

(Please let me know what you guys think, btw please do not interact with this post if you don't know the characters or the visual novel please and thank you :D)

[mrboogerlip]

Jason and Marcus would be the funniest ass ship. I feel like they are both really flirty until someone flirts back and then they are just: 😐

What do you think would happen if they did start dating and Jason ended up where MC was?

I feel like that would be harder because they are both cops and Jason doesn't seem like he could be as easily emotionally manipulated. (I got bored one night and went heavy into this man's lore).

Also I imagine Marcus calling Jason "kitten" and Jason just being confused as fuck but just going with it.

Also Chris. Nothing much to say I just absolutely love him. I made a good character (went detailed because I'm apeshit) for him to date after he breaks up so now he is happy and taken care of. He went through six years of therapy. (Please let me have this).

- 🐠 anon

(I'm sorry for bothering you but you are one of the few still really active and I love that)

Also I know she's obsessed with Chris (and I'm choosing to ignore that because ew) but aria is dom femme lesbian. (She's actually bi with a MAJOR preference towards women). I will not take criticism.

Thank you and goodnight!

Haha! I think Jason would be a little more open to it, maybe XD

I agree with you! I doubt Jason could be easily emotionally manipulated. In fact, I can imagine he could even trick Marcus into thinking he has him wrapped around his finger, when in reality it’s the other way around…

I think Jason would make a great kitten XD

AGH Chris… that boy deserves someone nice… I like to think he gets his happy ending considering the “Coffee” scene :3 (I'm so glad I can think of Aria's route as canon instead of Chris's)

That’s totally alright, fishy anon! :D

Also, sorry about the late reply! I suddenly got a little insecure about making so many text posts, so I stopped... and then when I stopped feeling like that, I got lazy XDD (Don’t worry, you’re not the only one. I have something else in my inbox from like 3 months ago. Although, it is art related...)

Well, whoever Aria is with, she definitely won’t let them top her that easily!! They have to work for it!!

Personally, I find the incest thing quite hilarious and endearing in a way… But that’s just because I have weird tastes LOL

[doriela]

Aria, you are so creepy.

Todas tus finales son... aterradores...

[rjtbot]

What I think different BTD/adjacent characters would be like as parents; using the SCP classifications.

The reader will be assumed to take the role as the parent, referred to as "you/your/yourself", and also assumed to have some romantic ties to the character(s).

Trigger warnings for: abuse, child abuse, domestic abuse, general dark themes, incest (mention), et cetera.

Apollyon: anomalies characters that cannot be contained, are expected to breach containment, or some other similar scenario. Such anomalies characters are usually associated with world-ending threats. Example in context of parenthood: a parent beyond "keter" who is not only dangerous as a parent, in a relationship, and as an individual; but also dangerous on a larger scale.

Thaumiel: anomalies characters that the Foundation specifically uses to contain others. Example in context of parenthood: perhaps they would fit another class, but the children themselves are "thaumiel" by containing their parent to a more normal, well-adjusted lifestyle that bases around being their best self for the chilren.

Keter: anomalies that are exceedingly difficult to contain consistently or reliably. Example in context of parenthood: a parent who is dangerous as a parent, in a relationship, and as an individual. This often means an abusive, unstable, and/or generally bad parent.

Euclid: anomalies characters that require more resources to contain completely or where containment isn't always reliable. Example on context of parenthood: a parent who requires psychological intervention, behaviour therapy, et cetera to be the best parent they can be. This may also include absent, negligent, or otherwise shitty parents who could do better if they tried.

Safe: anomalies characters that are easily and safely contained. Example in context of parenthood: they're a safe, sane/mostly sane parent, but may still present a threat in different areas.

Neutralised: anomalies character that are no longer anomalous dangerous. Example in context of parenthood: they were once fit one of the above classes, but any threat they were was neutralised upon becoming a parent.

Aria: neutralised.

MAY qualify for another role due to her incestuous attraction, but I suppose she's not acted on that paraphilia with her brother so far. It's easy to assume she wouldn't because of that.

She's a lawyer, fiercely loyal, and totally willing to be a mother! But don't be surprised when children, parents, or families messing with her's go missing...And definitely don't check the basement.

Celia: neutralised.

Celia always wanted to be a mommy, so she's totally willing to take up that life. It would be a test to her anger issues and patience for a while, but she would learn. Although you will likely be made into the stay at home parent.

Chris: neutralised.

Chris would drop any anger (assuming we're following TDDUP canon) towards you to prioritise his children with you. Couples therapy would be a necessity for him to co-parent with you, but he would be able to remain civil if you each decided to separately parent.

Ren BTD 2: neutralised.

Ren never understood the hype behind being called "daddy" in the bedroom, but hearing you refer to him that way to your offspring was instantly arousing. He is the perfect, typical housewife, but will also provide for the family as best he can. His beastkin instincts tell him to stay loyal to his family, so you'll never have to worry about him being like any of the absent fathers he despises.

Especially not with his trauma around being put on the streets when his family abandoned/lost him! He knows that hurt. He could never enact it on one of his own. If you raise any issues about his parenting style he'll be miserable - TERRIFIED - at the thought of resembling his biological family.

Chet: safe.

The best pick for parent material on this list. Hands down. Just a safe guy without any conditional things to be mentioned.

Farz: safe.

Not the best father, but definitely one of the better options on this list. Farz cares deeply for his children, would never let his anger issues harm them, and they may be the very thing that get him to pull his shit together. He would much prefer to be the stay at home parent, but he would prioritise his children over his preference if you were unable to get a job. Just an average dad who refuses to change poopy nappies.

Jack: safe.

He probably wouldn't want children to begin with, but he'll settle for it if you want them bad enough. If he can be safe enough to keep you; then he'll be fine with kids running around - if not more careful about his little side hobby.

Lawrence: safe.

Can't say Lawrence would be a very good dad, but he's definitely not gonna mistreat children! He would need instructions on how to do baby related things, may need them repeated a few times, and wouldn't understand the baby's queues until they started talking. Then he would become a decent father.

Mason: safe.

Probably the most average dad on this list. This doesn't necessarily mean he's a GOOD dad, but he's safe! He's just a little brutal. He's the type to make sure the kids are up on time, at school, things are done, and all of that. He would also insist on his children making him a grandparent one day because he secretly really loves being a parent and misses having babies around.

Raven: safe.

Absolutely clueless when it comes to childcare, terrified of them, but she completely loses those feelings when she holds onto her baby. Raven would realise in that moment that this is an opportunity to give someone a better life than what she had to deal with.

Ren BTD: safe.

If this is without Strade in the picture: Ren would be totally fine as a father, and it may even be quite healing for him to take control in such a gentle way.

With Strade in the picture is a whole different story. He would try to hide your pregnancy for a while, slip you food, and throw himself in the way of beatings to protect you from potential miscarriage. But Strade would totally punch you in the stomach often if he ever figured out, not as a punishment for YOU, but for Ren. He cries for you, for his unborn baby, and begs to be put in your place.

Sano: safe.

Average, mildly negligence, but not abusively so. He just has work to do. Sano would be there to help the kids with homework when they need, make sure to be home early enough to tuck them in bed, and all the little things to try make up for absences in more significant areas due to his occupation.

Sid: safe.

Akira: euclid.

At worst he's a bad influence, but that's because he's an immature shithead. He may even lean into it if you scold him. Instant boner when he's being told off. ESPECIALLY by the co-parent to his child? Let's just say daddy's a bad boy waiting to be punished properly...

Sid would teach the children pranks, get them to ask you for things he wanted since he knows you can't say no to them, and all the little things that are only mildly annoying. But he does a lot of good too. He's just annoying as fuck.

A part of me believes he would be the type to leave as soon as he finds out he impregnated someone, but I'll go with the assumption that he sticks around for the sake of this.

Akira is a family man, dedicated to his brother, Annabelle as a roommate, and assumably you. He may become enamoured/fascinated with the pregnancy process, be asking you a bunch of questions, and be confused when a baby comes out. It feels surreal to hold this little thing in his hands! He would totally devote his life to the kid as soon as they're born,

Derek: euclid.

Sure he has enough money so that children can have a comfortable, happy life; but does Derek care enough about them to provide anything more? No. Very negligent father unless he finds the children entertaining enough, they give him an opportunity to look like a good guy, or eyes are on him.

Fox: euclid.

Not hugely present in his children's lives, but he financially supports you/them, is well behaved when he is around, and does care for you and his children. It's more that Ren's afraid to be a bad dad, so he focuses on his work.

Vincent: euclid.

Obviously Vincent is more to the safe side since he's a wolf; a pack animal, and loyal. But his anger issues could make him a danger at times. YES Vincent WOULD apologise to his children after any outbursts he has - whether it was at them, or just inappropriately in their vicinity - and is a good father in any other regard.

Cain: keter.

He's actually a good parent in most areas. He spoils his kids, prefers to be the fun parent, and wants to be a good parent in spite of God. Except Cain becomes dangerous if he has to deal out punishments. It's best to let him maintain the "fun parent" role if you want your children to have less trauma.

Marcus: thaumiel.

So long as you stay with Marcus; he'll be good! He would likely leverage the children to keep you with him, baby trapped, financially dependent on him, and overall his.

Yes he cares about the children. Very much! They resemble you, they're what links him to you most distinctly, and they're useful to keeping you tied down. If anything he may treat the kids BETTER than you. That way he'll look more appealing - right?

Strade: thaumiel.

Surprisingly good father for a serial killer. Strade is willing to mask, get help, and/or get better if it means having worthy offspring go out into the world. His toxic antisocial traits would become positive narcissistic traits. That's the closest he can get to a full-on recovery. Watching childbirth was probably the first time Strade felt proud to watch something bloody rather than sadistic, so it gave him an urge to try his best.

He would likely go on to work as a butcher to relieve his homicidal, violent ideation, engage in BDSM if that doesn't work, or look at gore online to scratch the itch. And he would one-hundred percent be the one behind any missing children, parents, or entire families if he caught one or multiple of them hurting his family.

Rire: apollyon.

There is no care, affection, or fatherly connection between him and his offspring. Rire only sees them as entertainment, so as soon as they become too much he will be rid of them. If you're worth enough to him; then he MIGHT pretend to be a good parent for a while, but Rire would quickly become abusive, threatening, and no matter what those children will be dying. God knows you won't last that much longer after they go. No way would he put up with your grieving process! And then he'll go on to traumatise/damage some other person the same - if not worse - than he did to you.

Strade: apollyon.

He lured you into having his babies so that he could have offspring out there. Strade doesn't give a shit about you, or the children as individuals. Strade wants more chaotic shitheads like himself out there. Having you around to co-parent is good, but he'll totally steal your children. Or straight-up kill you if you lose your worth to him. The children are an extension of his evil plots.

[wereboyf]

Pretty happy with how she came out, not gonna lie. First TDDUP cosplan complete out of 3.

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[violetosprey]

BTD/TDDUP:  Who’s the most dangerous human character?

There is a counterpart post to this for the supernatural BTD characters already posted here if you want to check that out :P

I love the human characters in the BTD/TDDUP series.  Probably a little more than the supernatural characters to be honest.  When it comes to who I think is the most dangerous in regards to the public/humanity, I had to put quite a bit of thought into this.  I don’t really have a ranking system for these, but the main things I thought about were body count, level of sadism, and physique/intellect.

 I’m also going to be thinking about the difference here between who is actively the most dangerous vs. others who are potentially more dangerous.  But the real rating will be based on who’s “actively” more dangerous.

*major spoilers below*

I’m going to do this post from LEAST dangerous to MOST dangerous (opposite of my supernatural post because while the winner there was obvious, there is more to debate here I think).  Remember that these are only my personal opinion.  All decisions are up for debate.

7) Chris

I think it’s easy to explain why I have Chris at the bottom of the list.  He’s a sweet guy.  Unlike any other the other characters in these games, he was never looking to actively harm anyone.  He only snapped and seriously beat up one person.  And said person was HIS abuser so…yeah it’s even a little justified here (he just takes it a little too far).  There’s no indication either that Chris is quick to snap like this.  It’s implied that the MC and he were married for quite some time.  So he’s a rather gentle and timid guy who endured the abuse for a while.  If we’re talking “actively” most dangerous, Chris is the weakest here. If we were considering his potential to be a danger to society, he doesn’t really display any strong/consistent sadistic tendencies, or a high intellect to make him a common criminal or a mastermind of any kind.  I’ll give him this; he’s probably one of the physically strongest of the humans on this list.  I’d say the strongest physically here are probably Chris, Lawrence (if you still count him as human), and Marcus.  I don’t think his physique alone is enough to say he’d be a severe menace to society though.

6) Aria?

So we don’t learn a WHOLE lot about Aria.  She doesn’t look all that intimidating.  She doesn’t give me the impression that she sure works out enough to be able to take some of the guys on this list either.  But between her and Chris, Aria I’d say is capable of being a lot nastier. Chris has a right to be mad when he’s beating you down, but Aria seems SO much more vile when she tortures you. Yes, she has a right to be mad as well, but I always felt more uncomfortable with Aria torturing the MC. I found myself wondering if she took it too far.  I wrote a post long ago on Aria and my thoughts on her. There I go into more detail on why she makes me feel so uncomfortable (she’s actually the one character in the ENTIRE BTD/TDDUP series that made me have to take a break from the game for a bit).  But while she scares ME a whole lot, I have to put her lower on this list realistically.  Other than her sour relationship with the MC, I don’t really think she’s constantly tormenting other human beings in her spare time.  At least not as far as I’m concerned.  She’s an attorney for her main occupation, and very intelligent. So she’s definitely someone you don’t want to be on the opposing side at least.  So her “active” danger level is more that she’s likely cutthroat in the judicial system, but not really offing people on the side.  She does have a higher “potential” danger level though because not only COULD she possibly screw you over in the court of law to land you in jail…but apparently she has connections to HUMAN TRAFFICKERS. That.is.terrifying.  

5) Marcus?

Those who have wandered around my blog tumblr for a bit know I ADORE Marcus.  I think he makes a fantastic villain and a complete jerk :P He is INCREDIBLY intimidating.  He’s got a strong build and police training under his belt, so good luck overtaking him.  My money is actually on him being the physically strongest on this list.  He IS the tallest, and has the muscle to fill out the space.  I think his training could beat out Lawrence’s build (which just comes from manual labor). Chris is the only one I think who could give Marcus a run for his money (depends on Chris’s boxing skills and how well Chris keeps in shape honestly).  And intellect?  He’s both a good actor out in public, and calculating enough to plan a kidnapping and permanent captivity situation for his ex.  Yikes!  While I don’t think Marcus is a complete sadist (compared to some other BTD/TDDUP characters), he DOES show some enjoyment in tormenting the MC too.  So then, why don’t I have him higher on this list? Well if this was a list for “potentially” most dangerous, Marcus would win.  Can you imagine if Marcus was a full blown serial killer while working as a cop?  He could cover his tracks REALLY well.  He probably does cover his tracks after kidnapping the MC (AND he killed John to avoid witnesses).  But the thing to remember here is that Marcus ISN’T usually an active murderer.  He’s got one murder and one kidnapping under his belt, but as far as we know that’s pretty much it.  He’s a good cop most of the time.  He spends most of his time putting criminals away, not being one himself. The MC just makes him crazy.  So “actively,” he’s not usually as dangerous as some of the other human characters.  He could be more dangerous I think if people try to intervene and take the MC away from him. Otherwise, he’s on the public’s side most of the time.  Like with Aria, probably will leave you alone unless you cross him.

4) Ellen?

So Ellen doesn’t have a strong build to make her impossible to fend off, and she doesn’t have any scary connections like Aria does.  Plus, she’s only a college student.  So why should I place her higher than people like Marcus or Aria? One word: Unstable.  Oh she’s an intelligent young woman who carries on a conversation just fine.  She has a lot of insight as well.  But she also: Is interested in getting closer to a person she KNOWS is a serial killer AND necrophiliac, experiences catharsis by seeing others in pain, kidnaps Jack’s spouse and treats them like her pet dog, and has quite a bit of interesting ways to kill you both accidentally and intentionally.  This type of behavior indicates she’s more likely to cause harm to others.  The only problem is I don’t know is she’s really…done a whole lot of damage to other people at this point in time.  She may be too young yet (her potential victim count simply hasn’t had a chance to climb yet).  If she was willing to help Jack with his work though, something tells me she’s on the wrong track.  Still, since I don’t know how often she’s gone out of her way to hurt others in her daily life, she could move up or down on this list in regards to “actively” dangerous.

3) Lawrence

So if you want to disregard the bit about Lawrence being rotted by the river and turning into a lich, Lawrence was indeed born a human.  You can take him out of this list otherwise (I have him also in the supernatural post to cover my bases).  Similar to Ellen, I’m placing Lawrence higher on this list because of how unstable he is. And unlike Ellen, we actually ARE given hints that the MC in BTD2 is not Lawrence’s first victim.  If you’ve read my supernatural post counterpart to this, you know what I have to say about Lawrence.  I’ll just cheat a little and grab from that post :P

“ He might freak out/snap at people more frequently that we realize.  When he is upset too, unfortunately it’s not just that he’s letting his frustration out on whoever is standing next to him.  Remember at the beginning of BTD2, how Lawrence got upset when Ren left?  MC left the bar first, and Lawrence followed them OUT with the intention of beating them up.  He’s dangerous.  And when he kidnaps you (cuz he freaked out that he’d get in trouble for hurting you)…it’s kind of implied this isn’t the first time he’s done this.  He’s not as big a sadist as the others, but sometimes he does take a little more enjoyment in cutting you up than he should if you’ve managed to send him over the edge.  Not an intellectual himself, and he’s a little difficult to reason with. His physique also makes it hard to overtake him (you have to kill him when he’s sleeping).”

So yes, unstable, physical threat, small hints of sadism, and bigger body count makes Lawrence a greater danger to society.

The REAL Debate:  Strade vs. Jack

If we’re talking “who’s the most dangerous to society”…of course the ones most ACTIVELY dangerous would be the serial killers.  The only question is, which one is MORE dangerous? This can be a little tricky to answer. The problem is we have one serial killer who’s very straightforward and we know EXACTLY how he operates (Strade), while we have another who we hardly know anything about his methods of killing (Jack).  Strade is openly charming and cheery, but takes extreme pleasure in tormenting and killing individuals he usually tricks/kidnaps from local bars.  Jack is more of an enigma:  You don’t know where he finds his victims, how he interacts with them, his method of killing them, and  how often he kills them.  We know that young Jack is pretty sadistic, but older Jack doesn’t appear to share that same level of sadism.  Jack’s a big mystery overall.  Both Strade and Jack seem to show no remorse in regards to what they do either. Physique, they’re…probably not too different strength wise to be honest.  I don’t know their exercise routines to be able to choose one properly over the other.  I’d say Jack is probably more intelligent (he at least shows his education more than Strade does).  But since we don’t know how Jack operates when he’s killing, I don’t know to what extent he utilizes his intellect as a serial killer.  For all we know, he could be a little more primal with his killings, and just uses his wits to cover his tracks.  Who has more kills by the way either?  Strade kills for a living, so he probably has a large body count considering that’s how he makes his money.  Jack on the other hand lets the corpses rot away for quite a while, so I don’t know how frequently he feels the need to replace them.  So how do I choose between the two of these killers then?  Well there’s something I almost forgot about: longevity.  We actually have CANON timelines for these guys.  Strade is age 34 in BTD, and in BTD2 Ren is 2 years old than in BTD.  I apologize if you haven’t played BTD2 yet but…Strade’s dead in BTD2.  Gato confirmed that eventually one of his victims became too much to handle (in fact I think even one of the death endings in BTD can be taken as the canon ending that leads to BTD2- MC dies, but they’re able to take Strade out with them). So the oldest Strade ever lived to be would have been 36 at most.  Jack in TDDUP is 50 years old.  Young Jack in the extra scene is 25 years old.  Electricpuke DID confirm that by that time at least, Jack had already killed. So he’s been a killer for a bare minimum of 25 years.  Strade, I don’t know when he started killing, but let’s say maybe age 18 at the youngest (is it 18 or 19 you can go drink in bars in Canada?)  So killing for 18 years possibly.  Maybe he started younger, who knows.  Even then, the numbers look pretty close.  Just no way to really know the body count comparison between the two. Now in TDDUP, depending on your head-canon preference, Jack either gets away (I always consider the “You are alone” ending the canon one myself), or MC does successfully kill Jack.  And really the only reason I think Jack gets killed is because the MC is his weakness.  Strade bit off more than he could chew with his chosen victim, and Jack got caught by the one person he lets his guard down with.

Overall, I think this is a very close race, and maybe should be judged by who YOU think is the kind of person you’d hate to come across more, and who you think has killed more.  For me, I think I’ll go…

2) Strade

1) Jack

Personally, I’d hate to be caught by Strade more I think, but I don’t know if Jack does any torture either.  I decided to base this more off of Jack’s ability to get away with what he does for so long.

This was fun!  Please do feel free to disagree though and even add your own thoughts.