#the sunshine court theories

[broken-heart-raven-queen]

I'm just gonna... leave this theory here:

Jeremy hooked up with his step-brother at his first banquet and that what's "broke the family".

• We know the "scandal" that made their group chat name "The floozies" happened in first year.

• We know that his mom and his step-father don't tolerate actions that go against the norm for het man (like him dying his hair)

•Kevin told everyone in AFTG that is easier to be straight in sports, but it also applies to politics and Jeremy's family had the money to hash out the controversy before their reputation couldn't afford it (maybe it didn't even left the room).

•Jeremy told Jean to not call him Knox, surnames are something that you get from your father, but with enough money you could change them... as to match your 3 new children with your prestigious last name.

•Cat cuts herself when she mentions this brother, my theory goes on as that he was "banished" from the family (maybe because Jeremy's name was already out there and it would cause more controversy if he was the one dishenerited) or sent to camp like Nicky.

•Jeremy is one year ahead Jean and Kevin in school and that meant that they probably weren't at that banquet (maybe Tetsuji took Kevin but he was in his own head).

•Maybe his mom argued with his step-father for this, being it nearly cause of divorce. Maybe camp was discussed for Jeremy too, a suggestion of his step-father's father (that we know he doesn't like)

•It was the early 2000s, being gay was a big no, but having 2 gay sons... uff.

I probably had more points that I forgot to list here, but yeah. I think this step-brother that we don't know of is from another marriage of Jeremy's step-father so they are not related, and maybe he took off by himself refusing to be part of this bs.

[honkygay]

with recent theories about Jeremy Knox possibly having anger issues in the past has me thinking this is THE Jeremy quote ever. he looks at this and sobs into the crook of Cat’s neck i KNOW IT

[ivyinne]

I've been thinking about this theory about Riko orchestrating Jean's sexual abuse as punishment for his attraction to Kevin, because Riko is not in the habit of sharing his possessions. And while at first glance it would seem that Riko does this because it's Kevin... looking deeper I get the feeling that his attitude extends to the rest of the Perfect Court too.

Consider Andrew.

Riko sets first Drake and then Proust on Andrew, and the implication is that Andrew cannot get away with "taking Riko's things." This obviously refers to Kevin, but I don't think it refers to Kevin alone. It's significant that Riko brings it up with Neil and Neil only, and it happens during this specific conversation.

Riko uses Andrew to taunt and intimidate Neil, immediately after Neil implies that Riko is not the only thing saving him from his father. We come to understand several things in the course of this conversation:

That Riko considers Andrew to be responsible for Neil's continued refusal to return to his place among the Ravens.

That he believes threatening Andrew's safety will be enough to convince Neil to come to Evermore.

Which means that Riko obviously has an inkling of what Andrew and Neil mean to each other (even if Neil does not yet). He weaponizes this knowledge against both of them, and while Neil ends up going to Evermore, it does not mean that Riko lets Andrew get away.

That's because he never intended to. When Riko refers to Andrew as the miniature one with the disgusting attitude who thinks he can take my things, his "things" refer not merely to Kevin but, to a heavy extent, also to Neil, and he punishes Andrew for his closeness to Neil the same way he punished Jean's closeness to Kevin.

Why am I bringing this up? Well, quite simply put, it's all because of the as-yet unexplained January incident that Jean brings up in The Sunshine Court.

We know that following Neil's departure from the Nest, Zane betrayed Jean by setting Grayson on him. What we don't know is what Riko did to Zane and Grayson afterwards, or why.

Jean brings it up several times, but only refers to it obliquely, and doesn't give us any details:

I don't think Riko cares about what happened to Jean, of course not. But it makes too much sense to me that he decided what Zane and Grayson did was an insult to him, Riko, because how dare they touch his property when he hasn't permitted it? How dare they take his things? How dare Grayson pretend he has some sort of claim to Jean?

I'm throwing this theory out because I have nothing to lose: whatever Riko did to Zane and Grayson was in retaliation to what they did to Jean, but not because Riko cares. He did so only because Jean was another one of Riko's things, and those who take his things away must be reminded of their place.

So, yes, I think all of this is an extension of the fact that Riko has an unhealthy obsession with the people he considers to be his pets or his property. Transgressions against his claim over them deserve to be punished for the insult.

Even if those transgressions are committed by the Perfect Court itself. Riko plays the part of the jealously possessive master, the one they should all devote themselves to, the only one with authority over them. No one else can have them — which means they cannot have each other either.

[detectivebambam]

Andrew "I don't want the world to see me, cuz I don't think that they'd understand" Minyard

and Neil "when everything's made to be broken, i just want you to know who I am" Josten

[codename-adler]

1. so like. maybe jeremy’s dad is the man his mom cheated with. maybe jeremy only shares a mom with his siblings. maybe he learned it the hard way. maybe he blew up at the banquet and spilled the beans of his mother’s infidelity. maybe.

[feelingthedisaster]

friendly reminder ichirou has a fiancee. and we dont know anything about her. could be someone new, or, or, it could be a character that has already been mentioned. just saying.

[del-stars]

can we talk jeremy knox conspiracy theories. can yall PLEASE drop me the jeremy knox conspiracy theories. like what is going on with his family and how out of pocket do we think it's going to be

[lightlytoastedcashews]

ok im sure everyone has seen the "jeremy has a dead sibling and that's what happened at the fall banquet" theory, but if this theory is true, i don't think that we're going to be prepared to see the parallels between jean and jeremy having dead siblings, especially if jeremy is either the cause of/is blamed for his sibling's death

[you-know-i-get-itt]

okay okay facts to keep in mind while coming up with jeremy theories:

"Overdue for a new scandal, hm? End the way you started?"

his sister couldn't believe that he still played exy after The Incident; this rules out possibilities that are not related to exy

"The fall banquet that broke his family in half"

whatever The Incident was, it was something that he believed (probably had to be convinced by his therapist to believe) that he was in the right. it was an argument that he could hypothetically win

"What does Grandpa think of this investment of yours?" "He is not our grandfather." 1. this not-grandpa is related to exy closely enough to have opinions on jeremy's "investment", but not so closely so as to actually have a say 2. this person is a grandfather-like figure who is either a) not their actual grandfather, but was instead introduced into the family as a byproduct of The Incident, or b) their actual grandfather who jeremy is very very against in the aftermath of The Incident

laila/cat (i’m sorry i can’t remember and my book’s in the other room) saying that therapy can be very useful because “look at jeremy” implying that he was doing Not Well At All at one point

we also know that jeremy strongly dislikes and/or is afraid of his brother, but we don't know if this is a result of The Incident or if they've never had a good relationship

in (sort of) conclusion:

i don’t think he killed a sibling

i don’t think he killed anyone

i think something happened that needed to be covered up by an important person, aka “grandpa” and this thing was seen as jeremy’s fault or at least as a mark against him

i will reblog this with more coherent updates in the morning

[tiny-planet-13]

if we don't find out Jeremy's secret in tsc2 I genuinely don't think I'll be able to sleep until the third one like it's eating away at my brain I will be a hollowed out form of a human zombie-ing my way through life until I get that clarity

[not-a-user-jussanidiot]

Guys this scene is cute and all but why do I feel like it's a bad omen? Foreshadowing??? Will Jean take a bullet for Jeremy in the future???? Guys I'm overthinking again and I DON'T LIKE IT HELP

[broken-heart-raven-queen]

So now I did a bingo 🫠

Some of them I have theories on how they could happen and some of them are like "I want this to happen so bad that I'm willing to make them happen with my mind"

[foxpile]

i need a scene in tsc2 where neil and jean meet up to discuss their fake “childhood best friends” memories so they can keep their story straight if pressed about it

[ninyard]

Here is one of my far too in depth Jeremy’s Family Theories that I posted here! okay so in this theory:

- Jeremy has an estranged oldest brother

- This brother goes by their father’s surname and not Knox

- Jeremy’s brother was also on the Trojans (but this may or may not be dependent on them having different surnames)

- Jeremy’s brother is/was homophobic

So I have a few theories about the Banquet incident and one that’s a mess of a bunch of different theories and it’s this: picture Older Brother. Older brother is a 4th year Trojan, he’s well liked, but he’s kind of an asshole in private. His dad is Jeremy’s dad - but he grew up with a different surname, because their parents were still together/married by the time he was in school. Jeremy and his sister became Knox kids after their mother married into the Knox family. The older brother was old enough and refused to change from his father’s surname. He tried to fit in with the Knox family but he knows he’s kind of a black sheep for it. He’s the one that’s excluded from public facing recognition, because he’s not a Knox.

SO

Jeremy gets scouted for the Trojans while his brother is still there, and to have his baby brother on the team was INFURIATING to him. He didn’t get along with Jeremy already, but to have him on this team. Oh, he hated Jeremy for that. But the key thing here is he never revealed that Jeremy was his younger brother. He threatened Jeremy as well, and told him to keep his mouth shut, and tell NO ONE that they were related.

Along comes the fall banquet. Jeremy is out as a gay man and has been for quite a while. It’s a bone of contention in his family but ultimately they accept it as long as he is quiet about it, and it doesn’t interfere with their political or public image. But Jeremy’s oldest brother never supported Jeremy and regularly insulted him or bullied him over it. So, Jeremy is out, and he decides to bring a man to the banquet. 1) his mother begged him not to. 2) his sister begged him not to. 3) everyone in his family begged him not to. But he refuses to hide who he is or pretend to be straight for the sake of their image. In the end there’s nothing they can do, and he goes with this man.

Jeremy, little freshman Jeremy, rolls up to the banquet with a man on his arm. It’s 2003, maybe 2004. It’s a huge deal. Jeremy’s older brother doesn’t know he is bringing said man to the banquet, and he fucking glares at him all night. He’s so angry. By the time the tables get moved, he plucks up the courage to cross the hall to Jeremy. Calls him a very unsavoury slur starting with an F and Jeremy hits his brother, he punches him square in the face. He would’ve hit him again, but they get pulled apart and he can’t. Theres witnesses. And still nobody knows they’re related. The brother leaves him alone, Jeremy promises to stay away from him, and the night continues.

Jeremy steps outside to get some air, and unbeknownst to him his brother follows him. An altercation ensues, and eventually they start PUMMELLING each other. His brother hits him first, Jeremy hits him back, there’s blood and bruises and now more witnesses as Jeremy’s brother beats him the fuck up. Somebody called the cops, and the cops have to separate them. They ask Jeremy if he wants to press charges; he says yes. He says he wants it to be reported as a hate crime. They ask his brother if he wants to press charges for assault, and he says yes. So they both get arrested.

Where I think Jeremy’s fear of cops comes from, or lack of trust, or hatred for them, is how he was treated that night. The cops tell him they need a reason to charge his brother with a hate crime, he tells them he’s gay, and he gets treated like SHIT. They search him for no reason, they’re looking for any reason they can to make him uncomfortable or drop the charges. They’re asking him did he do anything to deserve it? Did he antagonise his brother? Has he been drinking? They make him really fucking uncomfortable and upset. by the time his mom bails him out he’s ready to drop the charges, but decides not to. The brother goes to stay with his father, Jeremy goes home, and the Knox family pay A LOT of money to keep this quiet. They don’t charge Jeremy with assault, but maybe they tell his mom there’s nothing they can do about Jeremy’s charges against his older brother if he won’t drop them.

Proceed to the reaction from USC; they recognise it as a hate crime and Jeremy doesn’t get kicked out of school, but he does get a very stern warning and maybe gets benched for a while. His brother on the other hand loses everything: there’s an active hate crime charge against him, he brutally assaulted a freshman while representing the team, and he gets removed from the team and expelled from the university. The Knox family have no choice but to estrange him further than he already was - so he’s totally out of the picture.

Jeremy tore the family apart because of his refusal to drop the charges, then him dropping the charges and instead getting a no-contact/restraining order against his brother means that while he’s living there the brother cannot be in the picture. So brother who is already a black sheep for not being a Knox, is now no longer welcome in the family home (except for when Jeremy is not in the house - if he’s not estranged, possibly he visits on the weekends, or lives there during the summer? And that’s why Jeremy doesn’t live at home during those times?)

The scandal is that he caused a team member to be removed from the team as a freshman, his sister who doesn’t like him that much anyway can now no longer see her brother, and she stopped supporting Jeremy’s matches because of it. He tore the family apart because of his insistence on being “GAY HATE CRIME VICTIM”. They bullied him into not seeking justice - and his sibling hate him for this whole incident. They don’t agree with him being gay because of their political affiliations, his older brother lost HIS older brother because of him, his sister lost him too. Idk

Does this even make sense? Is it far fetched? I don’t know I don’t care I just had to get this off my chest. I could talk about my theories FOREVER. This is just. A quick short summary of the possibility of an oldest brother who’s no longer in the Knox Family Picture.

[jeanmoreaue]

thinking about the parallels between Riko and Jeremy 👀. like we don’t know Jeremy’s full backstory yet, but clearly he has a family that doesn’t love/respect him (and who he doesn’t share a last name with? Knox/Wilshire?) and obviously we know Riko whose father doesn’t care about him, whose uncle abuses him, and whose brother kills him. and then where Riko continues the cycle of abuse, Jeremy tries to stop it.

and the way that Jeremy is the person to tell Jean that Riko is dead. marking the transition between Jean’s old captain/partner and his new captain/partner who tries to be the opposite of Riko

until all he saw was Jeremy!!

[chryseiswriting-blog]

Hey hey, what if Ichirou’s fiancée is Jeremy’s sister 🙃