#there is absolutely going to be another spn post on things i'd like to see and another on headcanons i have no regrets

[compo67]

Twenty Questions for Fic Writers

How many works do you have on ao3?

266. I know most of that is The Chicago Verse.

What's your total ao3 word count?

Aha! I am at 2,100,134. (I used to write sooo much from 2014-2017.)

What fandoms do you write for?

Just Supernatural and its RPF. I dabbled in the MCU with Spideypool fic, but have since not returned to it, nor do I have plans to.

What are your top 5 fics by kudos?

They Met at the Photo Op Booth (J2): 2,082

House of Gold (J2): 1,680

Garbage (J2): 1,533

Like a Small Boat (J2): 1,447

Put Your Hands Where Mine Are (Wincest): 1,303

Do you respond to comments? Why or why not?

I try to, very much! Especially if a reader has a question or points out a specific thing they liked in the fic.

What is a fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?

Oh gosh, let's see. Probably "It Takes a lot of Water." Or maybe "The Shortest Distance." There's not really a "happy" ending in either of those fics. They're hopeful endings, but come at a large cost.

What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?

I'd say that's either Punzel or They Met at the Photo Op Booth. Both have such sweet, hopeful, joyous endings.

Do you get hate on fics?

I think it's happened less than five times since I've been writing for fandom. A couple (a few?) of people left rude comments on Back Pocket 1 because of how I chose to portray Jensen in that fic (he is close to 400 lbs in that verse). One person left hate on Model of the Solar System. I think someone sometime recently? (maybe?) left something negative on a TCV fic. So no, it generally doesn't happen to me, but when it does, man, I remember it.

Do you write smut?

Yep! I used to post a lot on the spnkinkmeme back in the day, probably around 2015. It was such a great time in fandom. Anyway, yes, certainly, absolutely.

Do you write crossovers? What's the craziest one you've written?

I do not. Except this one time. Yes, I wrote a Harry Potter/SPN crossover fic. But nothing ever came of it. I'm not even going to link it, I don't even remember the title.

Have you ever had a fic stolen?

Not that I'm aware of. Readers do let me know when they've seen my fic somewhere it shouldn't be (like on Goodreads).

Have you ever had a fic translated?

I have! It floors me every time I get a request to do that! :)

Have you ever co-written a fic before?

Yep.

What's your all-time favorite ship?

Oh, how do I choose between J2 and Wincest??? Ugh. I guess. Well. Considering... oh, hell. I don't have to choose. :P

What's a wip you want to finish, but doubt you ever will?

Oh, goodness. Well, I make it a goal of mine to not abandon fics. Unfortunately, it just happens sometimes. There's Letter to Follow, which has only been available on Patreon since I started writing it back in 2019/2020. It's my time traveling J2 fic. I remember writing for it during the very first few weeks of covid. I learned so much physics for that fic. But alas, I needed/wanted to move on so I left it where it is. I hope I can return to it one day.

What are your writing strengths?

Dialogue and setting the scene. :)

What are your writing weaknesses?

Plot. That goddamn plot. (And pacing at the end of a fic.)

Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for a fic?

Love it. Love a challenge. Love how it works into the story.

First fandom you wrote for?

Harry Potter, back when I was 14 or 15 years old.

Favorite fic you've written?

Ahh how do I choose?! I can't. I have such a fondness for them all. <3

[scoobydoodean]

I didn't have much interest in the prequel because John and Mary aren't caracteres that I like very much they are badass as hunters but terrible parents ( Jody and Bobby became better parents to the boys). But now I want to start to watch it, because Dean ending was bad and boring, for the members of Team free will only Sam got a decent ending, Dean die young just to writers reaffirm his suicidal tendencies what is a example for fans that dangerous mental health trigger because just show that people with suicidal tendencies can't change mind and choose another will to live. Cas the angel who start the show as a stone cold soldier and turn into someone who understands emotions and even become a father, show his true happiness only to be sucked by the empty and get a name mention in the finale just : hey guys so remember cas? Jack saved him, were is he? Just forgot to tell his family that he is back. And Jack who only is a 3 years old, naive to everything and a being who just wanted to have a family and be accepted becomes the new boss and said: bye boys I won't do shit to you guys anymore, see ya chumps

Jensen really talk to his wife lady and said honey let's get our money power to turn this fanfiction rewrite into a real thing let call the old homies except Jared because if Sam is so happy there so let's just keep him there

Yeah I didn't have any interest in watching it either originally.

I never thought Jackles was going to glorify John and Mary as parents, which I did see a lot of people suggest, but the premise of a show about them didn't appeal to me much. I figured it would house some sort of backdoor escape for Dean because it's obvious Jensen didn't like the finale and had hinted many times about not seeing Dean as dead and bringing him back, but I just intended on following along through the grapevine instead of watching it. However, I kept stumbling upon bronlies (who are, in actuality, very very hardcore Sam stans and J1s who only consider Dean (and often JA) an accessory or a little pet for Sam (JP)). They were being really gross about Dean and how Supernatural is only about Sam, and Dean is just his little pogchamp emote and basically all but saying Jensen isn't allowed to make a show with Dean in it absent Sam because Dean isn't important and only exists to glorify Sam, etc. I got irritated, so I started a countdown 1, 2, 3 and third next post I saw from them being vile little gremlins meant I started watching The Winchesters lol. Then some of the finale spite started coming through and I was invested in figuring out exactly what JA wanted to say with all of it, regardless of whether I'd end up agreeing with him or not.

If you aren't sure if you want to commit to the whole thing or not (not that it's really all that much TV to get through), if your interest is finale spite related, I'd recommend you watch the 9th and 12th episodes.

I actually disagree that Sam got a decent ending in the SPN finale. Of course Dean and other characters got worse endings than Sam did, but the ultimate narrative about Sam painted by the SPN finale is that he is a failure or is deeply, deeply selfish. He was also hamfistedly shoved into a life that he was not interested in anymore, and treated as if that was actually what he wanted all along and Dean had to die for him to get it. (Bronlies don't understand the show, etc). His love interest is replaced with a blurry woman, and his house is devoid of photos of the living except his son who is named after his dead brother. Also that wig was fucking embarrassing as fuck.

I agree about Cas and Jack. I would add about Cas that the finale spit in the face of his sacrifice (and the lack of reunion, even as someone who was never invested in destiel, is absolutely unforgivable to me). I would add about Jack that him ending up as god is extremely disturbing because he and Dean mirrored each other within the trauma of being forced to grow up too fast just to be what other people needed them to be/to survive. To end the show with a three year old who already felt he had to be born as an adult in order to survive, taking on the responsibility of becoming god (and also subsuming and erasing another Dean mirror, Amara, in the process) is repulsive to me.

[raviposting]

I can’t stop thinking about Jesse Turner and Jack Kline after messaging @shortkinggabriel‘s blog so I would just like to say this out of left field thing I’d like to see - if Jack were to be God, that he could share the responsibility with Jesse: 

These two intrinsically understand each other better than anyone else. They are two half-humans who because of their other half (angel/Satan, demon) were told that they would bring about destruction and the end of the world. And then they...didn’t. They rejected that role and said that no, screw that, they were good and they weren’t doing this part. Seriously, if anything shows free will that is exemplified in those two. 

Honestly I’d rather Jack have not become God but like, still, if he did it’d be very neat to have him have a buddy who gets what it’s all about?They’re both (physically) the same age, at around 19/20ish at this point but they’re also two kids who didn’t get much of a childhood so even if they’re together and apart they still have company?? And they teach each other about the things they did have in their childhood (Jack proudly shows off his teddy bears) and they just explore life together. 

Instead of Amara being deceived by literally every man in her life by the end and then absorbed into God (which she’s seemingly? Okay with?) she gets to live her own life because there’s a new balance in the world - an angel and a demon, a different iteration of the “light and dark” balance. 

This would?? Probably also help with keeping Hell in line too tbh? Like Rowena is wonderful and amazing but not everyone seemed pleased and they could have coups all the time, not so much if one of the Co-Gods was also half demon. 

It would be incredibly funny watching Cas watch these two become close when he was this close to killing Jesse back in season 5 

idk I just keep thinking about them and if they interacted. And if Jack is going to fuck off to some void somewhere as God, he deserves a buddy. Also I just still cannot believe they introduced the literal antichrist who could fight against Heaven, had him be good, and then never once thought to bring him back afterwards

[leather-n-laces]

I've been in fandom for a VERY long time

I was BIG into Supernatural, TWD, various games, loads of TV and movies over the years. I've been active on tumblr for over 10 years now. I've been active in fandoms (loud mouthed, sharing my opinion with the world) and I've been passive.

(THIS IS A RANT)

I don't know how much of this will make sense. It might not, who knows.

I don't think I have ever been a part of a fandom that gets so mean and toxic as the Bethyl community. Which is so surreal to me because I was in the SPN fandom. It feels like every day I log on to see some mutuals have been inundated with angry anon messages for no apparent reason. The harassment's is unreal. The worst part is, Bethyl is a small part off the TWD fandom. We are a small group of shippers, a lot of us know each other be it we are actually buddies, or e read/support each others various works. So when you say a name, chances are a lot of us know who you're talking about.

I don't, and have never ever believed bullying/harassment is the way to handle anything. I think it's gross, a bit cruel, and cowardly. I can't understand WHY someone would put so much time and effort into tearing others down. I was actively bullied in school both online and off. I've gotten my fair share of anon hate and drama sent my way. I get how it feels to be on the receiving end. It's super super shitty.

You don't have to like everyone. You don't have to interact with them. You don't have to look at their art or read their stories. There's no rule saying we've all gotta be friends. I do believe there's an unspoken rule in which we should all be civil to each other. If you can't do that for whatever reason, don't interact. Block/ignore and move the hell on. There's nothing accomplished by sock puppet accounts and anon hate. You're just continuing a very toxic and very tiresome cycle. I genuinely don't know what anyone gets out of this type of targeted harassment. Who has the time and energy? If you have some to burn why spend it on THAT??

I was AFK during the first big round of drama last summer. But I heard about it and was really confused and sad. Because if I had been around, I know one way or another I would've been roped into it.

I've tried really really hard to say absolutely nothing, I avoid the Bethyl tags (tho I love you guys and just keep my head down. )

but I'm tired.

We are all adults and we should all be a hell of a lot better than this.

I hate that this is just...the Bethyl fandom now. Every few months like clockwork, people start getting messages, names and accusations start getting thrown around. I know people say and do things when they're super fed up and people make mistakes, misdirect and stuff. Some people are gonna block/ignore messages, some people will respond. I know if you attacked me personally I wouldn't really care, but if you decided to go after a friend - yeah you know what? I'd probably post responses too! Can't fault anyone for responding/posting their anon messages.

Anon, whoever you might be. We're all really fucking tired. We have all got better things to do. I'm sure you do too. IDK what went down between people personally really, and you know what? Not my business. Just...points have been gotten across. No reason why this all keeps happening.

Feel free to anon me and tell me why we can't just MOVE ON from this.

[msgrumpygills]

Social Media Anon here!

This is my sign off post. I don't have anything left to say on the topics of Walker figures and Gen's blog. The data is there for anyone to analyse and the trajectory is the same...

But this is my overall take on it.

Yes, Walker is a car crash.

Yes, it's lost 70% of its viewers.

Yes, it's come in at 0.11 on the premiere (which is a new low and down from 0.37 at the start) and it's lost its key demographic.

Yes, it's likely to go lower still (I predict 0.9 or 0.8 by mid season with steadying of audience at 0.8m with occasional jumps to 0.9 and drops to 0.7m by season end.

What matters though is that this is grading on a curve. Despite all of this, it is STILL one of the top shows on the CW.... That says something about the CW. Only Superman and Lois and All American have more potential for viewers and demographic, and Superman and Lois a far more expensive show to make.

So Jared will continue to be the small fish who people look at through the goldfish bowl. The bowl magnifies the fish... but he's really a small fish in a small bowl. He really isn't a big star. Most people outside the fandom don't know him. Look at the press he gets? An occasional flurry in EW but mostly in "nerd press". That's a very small audience.

Actually the only thing that upsets me about Walker is that it is such absolute dross, that it insults the audience.

So Jared plugging (and how he exercises his quality control as producer) the show and not repairing it tells us exactly what he really thinks of the audience. We are simply product to be coaxed into whatever he wants us to be. We don't matter. It's the same with mantralabs, that is an expensive product which can be obtained far cheaper elsewhere, but he coaxes those with less money than him to use their money to his benefit.

Back to Walker, I have to remember that Jared may not recognise quality anymore. Supernatural was a shit storm for seasons before it ended. Aging men running around amateur sets chasing increasingly unlikely (but cheap to display) "big bads" of that season. It REALLY was bad.

I think Walker will make season 3, I doubt it will make season 4 unless something happens. I think it might get another early renewal as a sign of support.... But I'd have to say, unless something happens to the CW, what is the reason for its existence? If it can't turn out content that is viewed, with the Arrowverse and SPN gone and no new audience niche being signposted... why keep it going?

Jared is a mega star though!!! He’s gonna save CW and he’s gonna save the whole TV world! He is the one who made SPN a success!!! 

Phooey. 

So Jared plugging (and how he exercises his quality control as producer) the show and not repairing it tells us exactly what he really thinks of the audience. We are simply product to be coaxed into whatever he wants us to be. We don't matter. It's the same with mantralabs, that is an expensive product which can be obtained far cheaper elsewhere, but he coaxes those with less money than him to use their money to his benefit.

THIS HIT SO HARD! The fact that he has had chance after chance to make improvements and chose not to says that he doesn’t care. As long as people continue to support things because he’s attached to it, he doesn’t have to do any sort of hard work at all. He’s shown this in the past too with AKF and all of his Stands collaborations; all he sees are dollar signs. He doesn’t see the fans, he doesn’t care about what they say, as long as they continue to buy his bullshit and pad his wallet. Prick behavior at its finest.

Jared probably doesn’t recognize quality because he doesn’t recognize his own faults. In his eyes, he’s the greatest thing to happen to everything and everyone, and his actions continue to show that fact. We can only hope that he gets a dose of humility soon, but I’m not optimistic.

[thegeminisage]

what do you think are some of the biggest pieces of evidence for cas being ace? i've watched so much of the show in the past month that it all blurs together, lol, so i can't remember many specific scenes. i do remember "i'm utterly indifferent to sexual orientation" (though that wasn't about his own orientation) and cas' discomfort at idea of sleeping with women at the bordello in 5.03... anything else you can think of? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts!

rubs my hands together okay a List yeah i can do a list

wait actually first i wanna say that the biggest reason is because i’m asexual and i said so 0:) like i know that sounds a joke and it is a little bit but SERIOUSLY it’s just a general Aura or what the fuck ever about people. you know how sometimes a friend group formed in teenage years will one by one realize they’re all queers and they just grouped together organically? ace people are like that too. many of my closest friends have been aspec and i didnt even know that when i met them, THEY didn’t even know. but like if you asked me to list the ten people i was closest to over my life the huge majority would be aspec like me. we find each other In The Wild. so when i say he’s ace because i said so like i’m saying I’m Ace And I Can See Him. He Is Ace Because I Said So. my ace-dar is EXCELLENT

okay anyway with that out of the way here’s your actual list. obviously much of this can be a point in favor of many different readings of cas (and i’m not saying those can’t be true at the same time as ace cas!), but i’m ace and he’s ace and that’s what this post is about so i’m focusing on the ace parts. thank you.

list of ace cas evidence:

in general cas has a lot of trouble connecting with humanity at first which is an ENORMOUS ace mood

when dean cracks in the 4.01 deleted scene “yeah i have that problem with women” (after cas talks about the difficult in finding a vessel that can contain him) cas absolutely does not get that joke. we were having ace cas moments right from the get-go

it’s shown as early as 4.02 that cas doesn’t understand personal space. this is him not getting one single thing about human intimacy works and that he’s overstepping a boundary. it’s not just that he’s an angel (though that’s some of it) he just doesn’t intuitively understand physical stuff like that

that dean/anna kiss in 4.10. LOOK AT HIS FACE. that’s a face that says “i had no idea this is how humans were intimate with each other” and also “do i want to try that?” answer: maybe. dean’s very pretty. but something about it just feels like he’s going “whoa i never even CONSIDERED that” - like that to be sexy with the humans he’s into just didn’t occur to him

i know you said so already but WOW 5.03 brothel scene. THEEE ace cas moment

i’d also like to take a moment to tip my hat to 5.04. almost every aspec will have had a period of frustration and self-loathing where they thought at least once about maybe just having sex they weren’t into as a way to be “fixed” or to prove something. when aspecs are at their lowest and most broken, they are having sex they do not want to have. and when cas is at his lowest and most broken (in 5.04 AND 9.03, thank you), what is he doing? having sex! it’s just Interesting to me that the only times cas fucks is when he’s literally in the absolute worst points in his entire life 

also, i’m getting out of order here, but that thing in 9.03 was absolutely rape. the way he talked about it after was THEEE most comphet bullshit i’ve ever seen. “that was nice.” “she was...sooo hot.” dean winchester can’t fool me and neither can cas thee tiel. 

i know everyone was uncomfortable with the cherub in 5.14 but cas was SUPER uncomfortable. “no one likes it” yeah that’s cause he’s not a big touchy-feely dude 

i actually really hate that porn scene in 6.10, but it is a classic “i don’t get it” moment + a side of “monkey see monkey do” later when he decides to mimic it and kiss meg. she started it - he’s just going “oh yeah i remember watching that on TV - like this, right?” he’s pleased with himself for correctly mastering a form of human interaction, he’s not, like, horny. 

didn’t get the erectile dysfunction joke in 6.19

obviously, godstiel’s utter indifference to sexual orientation

strongly implied to be in a chaste marriage with his “wife” daphne when he was an amesniac

being repeatedly lobotomized in season 8 is its own can of worms. they were trying to make him straight. alas, it cannot be done

meg propositions him in season 8 and it takes him a bit to catch on. i don’t think accepting means he’s not ace, just that he’s interested in stuff humans do. would have been nice for his first time not to be with a psycho reaper who got him to trade his virginity for a pb&j :/

cas seemed REALLY nervous at the prospect of the date in 9.06, almost like it was something he had to steel himself to do - yet another weird part of human life he was resigning himself to, especially after metatron told him “go find a wife and have some babies” when his grace was taken

cas in season 10 is UTTERLY oblivious to hannah’s advances, even the ones that include nudity (and his own nudity at one point lol), and when he finally catches on he lets her down in the most awkward way possible

in season 11 he says he’s gonna take dean’s temperature and doesn’t see how that’s weird lol

he never got to truly speak to dean about his weird “””attraction””” to amara but i like to think he would have been equally confused

in season 12 in the hotel room where an orgy had clearly just taken place dean snickers and picks up the panties but cas is totally oblivious

ALSO completely oblivious when the waitress hits on him in season 12

this is a little bit of a stretch, but despite being named as jack’s “real” father, his relationship with kelly, his ostensible baby mama by proxy, seemed INCREDIBLY platonic to me. like they were such good buds! but he never had any of that romantic chemistry with her - there were no lingering notes or touches or whatever. he just wasn’t interested in that same way. 

exasperated with gabriel and talking about porn stars in season 13 lol

canonically, castiel spent seasons 4-?? falling in love with dean, but he never made a move on him physically - yeah yeah the CW is homophobic but i like to think that most of castiel’s Urges where dean is involved are not in fact of a sexual nature. he wants to be close to him and important to him more than he wants to fuck him. you can long for someone in the ace way without longing for them sexually yk

this is part of why i actually really liked the 15.18 confession - the happiness was in the being, or whatever. he was already WITH dean in almost every way that mattered (i wrote a fic about this). they shared secrets, they shared burdens, they lived together, they fought and worked together, they even raised a fucking kid together! cas was convinced he couldn’t have more than that but also he didn’t really NEED much more than that and thinking about how he had been with dean all along was what made him happy enough to literally die. yeah there’s a version of that scene where the reciprocation was enough to do it but they accidentally hacked it into an ace love scene so i will TAKE it

this concludes my list! i bet it’s a lot longer than u were expecting

[spn masterpost]

edit: a few updates

[mishavacado]

SPN has so much spinoff potential and so much canon to work with, it's such a waste that none of it's getting used. This post is just all of my spinoff ideas, I'll apologize in advance because it is VERY long.

Wayward Sisters, obviously. There are so many possible storylines to work with, so many stories to tell. I'd really love to see some Charlie, Eileen, or Krissy Chambers cameos. I think that Charlie and Claire would get along really well (just read this post). Rowena is another character that I think could easily be worked into the canon. She could teach the girls all kinds of magic and be the fun wine aunt that spoils the girls on their birthdays. I don't think that Claire would like her very much, but, Rowena and Alex would probably get along just fine. How much I need this in my life: 1000000000000000000000000/10 when I heard that this idea had been tossed out I was so angry. Why doesn't this exist?

Men of Letters prequel that's mostly set in the bunker. This show could really expand on the canon lore and give us some more background on the Men of Letters, as well as any other similar/rival organizations that were around before the main show's time. The Men of Letters have so much story potential for a spin-off; corrupt leadership, new monsters, other organizations, expanding the MoL to outside the U.S. Episodes could be in a monster-of-the-week (MOTW) format, starting and ending with the Man of Letters the case is assigned to making notes in his journal or case file or talking about the case, as well as the overall season arcs. Episodes would be titled by their case number, i.e S1 E1 Case No. 1925-4, etc How much I need this in my life: 1000000/10, the supernatural/historical drama combo would be absolutely stunning.

A series focusing on all of the alternate timelines and universes, both the ones mentioned in the main show and ones just randomly created for an episode. There are infinite possibilities. Each episode would be in a MOTW format, but with different versions of Sam and Dean. The HunterCorp universe, Jared and Jensen from the French Mistake, a universe where their names are switched, a universe where Dean went to college and was the one with the demon blood powers, a universe where they drive a Mustang instead of the Impala, a universe where Sam isn't scared of clowns. I could go on, but I'm going to stop myself here. How much I need this in my life: 9/10 I think it would be pretty funny, but it's not my best idea.

A Bobby and Rufus spin-off where they talk about cases they worked on together or with other hunters, but the stories are told similarly to Tall Tales. It's the same story but told from different points of view depending on who's talking. I wish we'd gotten to see more of Bobby and Rufus because I think those two are hilarious and really think that this could be funny, even if it was just a web series with twenty-minute episodes. How much I need this in my life: 10/10, I love Bobby and Rufus and I think that they have a lot of interesting hunting stories to tell.

GHOSTFACERS GHOSTFACERS GHOSTFACERS. How much I need this in my life: 100000000000000000000000/10, I love the Ghostfacers. That's my whole idea.

A Jack-centric show that's almost a political drama. Jack is the ruler of heaven and is constantly being manipulated by angels, demons, and Death herself. He just wants to make an afterlife paradise, but power-hungry angels won't leave him alone. Remember that Jack is very young and trusting by nature, so there is a lot of potential for disaster if he gets goaded into doing something, like making new universes or ending existing ones. Cas is a main character and he does his best to protect Jack, but he has to be careful to not seem overprotective/like another manipulator or Jack won't trust him either. I have no idea if I'm making any sense, but shoutout to me if I am. For some reason, I've always thought that heaven would be an interesting setting for a spin-off, and those angels are pretty similar to power-hungry politicians. How much I need this in my life: 800/10, I would totally watch this.

A very short series that just destroys the canon finale. Twelve episodes, detailing the storylines that were ignored or destroyed by Carry On. E1: Rescuing Cas from the Empty and he and Dean have a long talk about their ~feelings~. They kiss, and for the first time, Dean’s mind is free of doubt about whether or not anyone could ever love all of him. E2: Eileen returns. She says nothing when she sees Dean and Cas holding hands, just raises her eyebrow and smiles knowingly. Some excellent movie night content. E3: 1 year later. Sam and Eileen’s wedding. Dean and Cas aren’t legally married, but their matching gold rings are very prominently shown. It isn’t mentioned. The wedding is almost canceled because of the rain, but with a wave of Jack’s hand the clouds disappear and the birds start to sing. E4: Sam and Eileen have moved out of the Bunker. Cas finally convinces Dean to downsize, so they find a little house in Lawrence and settle down. Cas works as a special ed teacher. Dean works as a mechanic. Miracle loves the backyard but makes sure to stay away from the beehives in the back corner. E5: Sam and Eileen’s twins, Mary and Maura, are born. Dean and Cas love their nieces, and Jack loves them too. He doesn’t know what to call himself, so they settle on Uncle and call it good. E6: Deaths. They all die old. Cas’s vessel has aged, but he can’t die, so when Dean finally passes away in his sleep, Cas scatters his ashes in the woods and disappears, ascending to heaven, to spend eternity with Dean. The closing scene is a dark screen, with the whoosh of wings and a soft “Hello, Dean.” OK. That was a long one. My apologies. How much I need this in my life: 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000/10. I would reach nerdvana thirty seconds into episode one.

Another spinoff of that idea is just...Dean and Cas living a normal life. Short episodes. Cas goes to the grocery store. Dean drags Cas to a horror movie fan convention. Cas meets a roomba. How much I need this in my life: I can’t type enough zeroes to express it.

Campbell prequel that focuses on Mary and her childhood. Mary being raised as a hunter but not being allowed on hunts. Mary rushing home to finish her chemistry homework so she can help her dad track a nest of vampires moving east. Mary missing her prom to help Samuel on a hunt. Mary trying to keep her real life secret from John, a man she knows loves the parts of her he knows about. Mary always being an outsider, the kindest and most beautiful girl in her class, but so slow to trust and quick to speak that everyone is afraid to be her friend. Mary is a character that has the potential a lot more development, for twelve seasons she’s the burning martyr in every Winchester’s imagined paradise. She deserves more. How much I need this in my life: 11/10, Mary isn’t my favorite character but I would die for her.

Gabriel spin-off. That’s it, that’s the idea. How much I need this in my life: 10000000/10, Gabriel is a character that we don’t know a lot about so there are so many possible directions for a story about him to go.

Show set in the SPN universe that doesn’t really interact with the main show’s canon. It’s about two cops in the 30s that become hunters by accident. After investigating the apparent suicide of a hunter in their small town, they become enthralled by her library, filled with books about ghosts and vampires. They pour over her journals on their own time, fascinated by what they’re reading. They get to know the hunter through her writings, her accounts of her hunts and travels. Eventually, a nest of vampires settles in the town and the two put their newfound knowledge to the test. This show would just be based on canon lore, there wouldn’t be any mention of the Winchesters or other main characters, although a few MoL team-ups is definitely a possibility. The two become quite a team, tracking werewolf backs on bulletin boards in their basements and hoarding rock salt. How much I need this in my life: 89/10, I think this could be really interesting and I am a sucker for historical hunters.

Speaking of historical hunters-Samuel Colt prequel. Cowboys, vampires, cowpires. Hunting in the wild west, galloping across the prairie chasing a pack of werewolves. This show could also tell us a lot about how different types of monsters spread across the U.S. Ghosts will go anywhere people go, but what about vampires? Shapeshifters? Ghouls? What was it like to hunt without technology to help with research? The hunters in this series would be the authors of the journals that modern hunters use every day. They’re the ones that tested tracking and trapping methods. Again, no idea if this is making sense, but I think that a supernatural western would be really awesome and would expand/substantiate the canon lore. How much I need this in my life: 1000000000000000000000000000000/10, I love cowboys and I love Supernatural. This is literally the best thing that could ever happen to me.

Crowley. I want to know more about him. A series that tells us all about Fergus Roderick MacLeod, starting with when he was born in Scotland and ending with his death in All Along the Watchtower. We know that Rowena was his mother, that he was a tailor, that he sold his soul for an extra three inches ~down there~, and that he was a terrible dad. I want to know more about his childhood, about the people he made deals with, about how he became king of the crossroads and of Hell. Crowley was a very interesting character that was abused by the story. I want to know more about him. How much I need this in my life: 10000000000000000000000000000000000000/10, I really do love Crowley and I would watch this a thousand times over.

Final idea: MOTW only. No season arc, no overall storyline. New hunters every episode, from all different times, from over the world. All kinds of monsters. One episode in Victorian England, the next in 1990s Los Angeles. Very few recurring characters, if any. The recurring characters would be the Bobby Singers of the world; the lore guys that you call when you need help. Each new character has their own style, own car, own music, own personality. The show could have some a m a z i n g guest stars because they’d only appear in a few episodes. There are so many possibilities for episodes, even if they weren’t full length. How much I need this in my life: 100000/10, I love MOTW episodes and would really like to get to know the characters. It would be very easy to write one-off fanfics for this show, and also very easy to introduce this show’s characters into Supernatural’s canon.

You made it to the end!!!!!!!! That’s all I have for now. Sorry for writing so much, I just can’t stop thinking about SPN and all of the wasted stories.

[sammyblep]

i'd love to hear your thoughts on sam too!

thank youuuuu also sorry in advance this is gonna get so long--

(edit: also sorry about the formatting tumblr said fuck this post in particular)

How I feel about this character

sam is one of my most favorite characters of all time. the first time i watched spn i was an unapologetic dean girl (gnt) but now i am FULL sam girl (gnt.) This is a character who is told that the world is a dark and dangerous place and that no matter how hard he tries he’s going to become one of the monsters that inhabits it and makes it worse. he’s raised on the leash held by his father and in the shadow of his brother (a shadow that protected him) and he just wants to be able to love them both but they won’t let him. he wants to be able to love and nothing will let him!!! He wants to be able to experience the world in a way that isn’t blood and gunsmoke and pain and he just wants so desperately that he’s willing to rip himself away from what little he’s known to do it.

and the thing is, the world proves him right! he IS a monster. he lets the devil free, the people he loves die endlessly, he chooses a demon over his brother, he allows himself to become demonic for the sake of revenge, because that endless love he has was twisted against the world he wanted to love and used to wound it. and the fact is - it WAS his decision. it’s a decision he has to live with forever and deal with the consquences of. the world proves him right - zachariah’s voicemail, dean telling him to pick a hemisphere, the angels using dean to warn him off his demon blood path, the murder of an innocent woman to kill lilith (cindy I think) - those are all monstrous things.

and sam, after all that - when he realizes what his love has been used for, the hurt and irreversible damage its caused, he takes it back for himself. he realizes he was wrong, and he - the boy who wanted nothing more than to love the world and be loved by it in return - offers up his love to that same dark horrible world that he ruined further. and he does it with no expectations, just determination to make it right. that love overpowers the devil and destiny and the writing of god himself. the same way cas’s love for dean overwrote chuck’s writings in 4x22, sam’s endless love and belief that the world is worth fighting for averts the apocalypse.

this is a man who ruined the world, and willingly; and this is a man who saw what he did and ruined himself, wilingly, endlessly, because he believed in fixing his mistakes. because he believed there was still love and good in the world that tried to kill him over and over. because sam winchester wants nothing but to be free to love anything and everything, and to have even a sliver of that love returned to him.

basically: i love him. i love him so much. sam winchester THE character of all time for me. (him and ned chicane and merle highchurch but that’s another thing-)

All the people I ship romantically with this character

Eileen the love of my life Eileen Leahy!!! She’s badass and understanding and CHOSE to love Sam, and that’s truly what he needed and wanted more than anything else. She’s just - KAJDFNSKAJF i love eileen so so SO much and I think she and her wife Sam Leahy are head over heels in love. They love learning from each other and teaching each other and defending each other with the full knowledge that they can cover their own ass totally fine but that’s not the point the point is that they want to show their love and in their lifestyle this is a good way to do so. I think Sam is absolutely utterly disgustingly in love with Eileen and they want to constantly make that clear to the world and I think Eileen is completely wholly sickeningly in love with Sam and wants to make that clear to Sam. I think they’re neat and I think they’re perfect and I think they’re in love and I love them

Rowena - I haven’t seen a single episode with Rowena but i adore her energy and I think Sam being a sucker for the 600-yr-old queen of hell Rowena MacLeod is INCREDIBLE. Sam sees an incredibly powerful woman with knowledge and experiences beyond his understanding and says ‘is anyone gonna fall in love with her’ and doesn’t wait for an answer.

Gabriel! From the first time I saw Tall Tales I crackshipped him and sam, fun fact. I think there’s a LOT of complexity and nuance to any potential relationship of theirs (which is further complicated by any potential s-13 sabriel bait you wanna incorporate into your own personal good version (i haven’t seen it yet but love and light to y’all)) but I ALSO think too many people lose Gabriel’s characterization in order to make him palatable to Sam. And like no that’s not the point the POINT is they’re enemies-with-instant-tension to lovers! This is the ‘hedonist meets repressed man and they are instantly attracted but also hate each other and have to navigate that’ dynamic that I so rarely see done properly. However the MOST important part of Sabriel for me (as with any ship) is that it’s fun and DOES have a lot of cute potential. (Hedonistic-hugger Gabriel with touchstarved Sam my BELOVED)

Also Sabrieleena is fantastic I am a poly truther for a lot of things

Sarah Blake my first gay crush Sarah Blake... she deserved better and also she and Sam would have been a fantastic wlw relationship

I’m sure there’s more but I’ve forgotten them because it’s been ages since I saw past s5 and I frankly don’t remember much after the beginning of s6!

My non-romantic OTP for this character

I think he and Cas should have been best friends more. Also I *DO* wish we’d gotten a better Sam&Crowley dynamic but alas j*rpad couldn’t step up to the plate :/// fuckin coward

My unpopular opinion about this character

I’m both a Tall!Sam truther and a Tiny!Sam truther... I don’t think either of these concepts are unpopular but idk anyone else who loves them both like i do. Then again I also don’t know many people in spndom sfkjnjkfjaks

One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.

WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN TO SEE SAM HAVING A HORRIBLE BREAKDOWN AT SOME POINT. I HAVE OPINIONS ON WHEN AND WHERE BUT THIS MAN MADE OF LOVE FEELS EMOTIONAL PAIN SO HARD AND WHEN THE LOVE HE’S FILLED WITH IS TURNED AGAINST HIM I SIMPLY THINK HE WOULD HAVE LOST IT.

this is technically not him butttt I wish Max Miller had lived so he and Sam could have been best friends (I have s1e14 Nightmare derangement syndrome)

ok i know this said ONE thing but also like you said and like i said in the tags of your response for sam. HE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HIS POWERS.

(send me a character and I’ll break their asses down)

[norahastuff]

Hello. What are your thoughts about S12 of SPN? Did you like what the show did for Destiel and what about Mary's arc? i'd love to hear your thoughts!

Oh anon, so many thoughts - be careful what you ask for!

Season 12 is one of my favourite seasons of the show, mostly because of the in depth focus of the characters’ emotional states - especially Cas and Mary. I mean sure you could say the Men of Letters weren’t exactly formidable villains,  but I think that was kind of the point. Like Sam snarks at Lady Toni Bevell when she tries to threaten him with torture, he’s been tortured by the devil himself - what was she going to do to him?  After dealing with many seasons of escalating threats that culminated in them confronting God and Amara, they couldn’t exactly raise the stakes any higher plotwise, so they went lower. 

They created this human threat and instead put the focus on what the characters were going through. This gets kind of long, so I’ll break it down into 3 parts. I’ll talk about Cas and his story in this answer, and then I’ll make another couple of posts about Mary and then Dean and Cas. 

1. Cas and his state of mind

2. Mary

3. Dean and Cas

1. Cas

After everything that went on during s11 with Cas and Lucifer and God, I did kind of think that the show might forget about what it was that led to Cas saying yes to Lucifer in the first place. I needn’t have worried. Dabb’s always been interested in exploring Cas’ mental state, going all the way back to 8x08 when Dean and Cas talked about the effect the whole Godstiel/Leviathan mess had on Cas. 

“I’m afraid I might kill myself.”

 It was jarring because it was the most direct Cas had ever gotten about his depression. He’d talked about it before but never quite so matter of factly. Dabb also wrote the episode in which Cas said yes to Lucifer, a decision he came to after feeling worthless and unneeded by everyone and everything. Ambriel told him the how little the angels thought of him. In the past that may have been because he was a traitor and a rebel. They may have hated him but they feared him, even felt a twisted kind of reverence towards him. Not anymore. Now what did they think of him?

Castiel: I never wanted this, you know. To be hated by my own kind, I never…

Ambriel: Oh no, I don’t hate you, Castiel.

Castiel: Thank you.

Ambriel: I mean, we have a lot in common. Our names rhyme, that’s a big one. I look good in a trench coat too, and we’re both expendable.

Castiel: Excuse me?

Ambriel: Well, that’s why we’re here, right? I’m a number cruncher and you… like I said, I’ve heard the stories. You help. But Sam and Dean Winchester are the real heroes. So, if the Darkness is still alive and she’s pissed… and she kills us… no big loss. So sure, maybe we’re not super important, but we do the job. You know… I think there’s nobility in that.

He wasn’t The Great Castiel anymore. He was the Winchesters’ sidekick. The angel who turned his back on them and gave up an army for Dean Winchester. I think sometimes we underestimate how bad the events of 9x22 were for the angels perception of Cas. Dean broke the rules, rules Cas had put into place, and yet Cas refused to hold him accountable for that. Instead Cas fell at his feet, at least in their eyes.

I mean he was resigned to dying when Amara caught him….and yet what does she tell him? “Blue eyes, you’re not even worth the effort” “You look a bit used up.” He wasn’t even worthy of being killed by the big bad anymore. Instead she used his body to send a message to the adversaries she actually cared about. That’s all he was good for. 

Ok sorry I spent a lot of time talking about season 11 but that’s because Cas’ story in s12 is a continuation of the same things he was dealing with in s11. His desperate search for a purpose. His fears that he could never do anything right, that he was worthless: unloved and unwanted. As soon as he helped get Sam back, he got up and left again. Sure, part of that was because he needed to go find Lucifer, but like Sam and Dean tell him, he didn’t have to do that alone. 

I think it’s telling that his decision to leave comes on the heels of his late night conversation with Mary where he confesses that he still doesn’t feel like he belongs with them. So he leaves, and tries to make himself useful and Cas being Cas, he decides to do that as Agent Beyonce which results in an absolutely glorious partnership with Crowley. Honestly, as much as Cas hated Crowley, I think their little adventure was good for him - at least for a little while. I mean it gave Cas an excuse to feel superior (something he wasn’t getting a lot of at that point) and to show contempt towards someone - something he is so very good at: see also Ketch, Sergei.

But it’s easy to see how precarious Cas’ sense of self worth was. The second something goes wrong, in this case when Sam and Dean get arrested and he can’t find them, he completely falls apart. He internalises what Ambriel and Amara said to him about how useless he was, and that coupled with his own crippling insecurities, as well as Mary lashing out and blaming him for letting them get taken (she didn’t mean it really, she was more angry at herself than anything) he convinces himself that they were all right. He is worthless and he can’t do anything right. Cas didn’t fail to stop the vampire he tried to hunt down because he lacked the skills, or because he needed Sam and Dean. No, it was because he was so convinced that he was worthless and useless, it became a self fulfilling prophecy. 

The look of relief, the crack of his voice when he hears Dean on the phone after he’d essentially given up hope. The look on his face when he finds Sam and Dean, a look that stops them in their tracks, not to mention the wordless exchange in the backseat of the car after Cas meets Dean’s eyes and realises that something’s not quite right. Try then to tell me that Ambriel’s words (or at least the same sentiments) are not running through his head when he learns that one of the Winchesters will have to sacrifice themselves.

Sam and Dean Winchester are the real heroes.

You’re expendable.

If she kills you, it’s no big loss. 

It’s not much of a surprise that he makes the decision he makes. 

I also find Ishim’s conversations with Cas very interesting. I’ll talk about that some more in the Dean and Cas post, but in particular this exchange:

I used to envy you, Castiel. You believe that? You survived Hell. You were chosen by God. But now look at you. You’re just sad and pathetically weak. So now… I’m gonna help you. I’m gonna cure you of your human weakness same way I cured my own -by cutting it out. 

Once again this is confirmation of what the angels think of him. He’s not a figure to be feared anymore, rather an object of pity. Unsurprisingly, they all blame Dean for that. They see Cas’ love and devotion for Dean as his weakness. From the very beginning Cas has been told that getting close to Dean would lead to his downfall. Heaven, hell and everyone in between warned him, over and over again. 

Interestingly Cas sees it differently. He agrees that he’s weak and powerless but he doesn’t blame his love for Sam and Dean for that. So much so that on his deathbed, he even thanks them for changing his life, for changing him. 

But he survives. Crowley (much to Cas’ chagrin I’m sure) saved his life. And ultimately nothing has changed. He still needs to feel useful, he’s still desperate to find any sense of purpose - and so he finds one. Eliminate the Nephilim. Not only is that a clear instruction, a plan he can carry out, but if he manages to do that, he’ll also be preventing Sam and Dean from having to do something truly unsavoury. That checks all the boxes on Cas’ wishlist.

But Cas is missing something. He’s not seeing how much Dean is struggling with him gone, and how desperate he is for Cas to come back. He just wants a win, and unfortunately, he’s looking for it in all the wrong places. He doesn’t have a clear idea of his importance and role in the Winchesters’ lives, Dean’s in particular. When he steals the Colt and tries to face Dagon alone, he tells them he was trying to protect them, only for Dean to hit back with “You’re not our babysitter Cas” and from Cas’ face, you can see he clearly doesn’t agree. He once admitted he saw himself as the Winchesters’ guardian, and part of him still feels that that’s the only role he can play in their family - even though that’s not at all how Sam and Dean feel about him anymore.

Cas is lost. Completely and utterly unsure of his place in the world. Kelly takes the wheel and he could stop her if he wanted to - but what else would he do? It’s easier to just follow someone else’s plan, no matter how nebulous and uncertain it may be. 

And then something happens. The Nephilim’s power flows through him and Cas feels strong. He feels focused and like he has a purpose again. A part to play in making the world better. He has something he hasn’t had in a very long time - he has faith. But you see the problem still hasn’t been solved, he may have faith now, but he still doesn’t have any faith in himself. He doesn’t see his value outside of being a tool, an instrument, existing only to be of service to the bigger players. 

I think season 12 did a really great job in highlighting the dichotomy in Cas’ motivations that we’ve been seeing for a while now. He wants to be of service, he needs a purpose to feel like he has a place in this world, but it’s not a desire that’s based on unfeeling duty anymore. 

Cas feels things so very strongly and yet he’s still acutely aware that he’s not human - something season 14 (particularly 14x14) spent time exploring. Season 15 too actually. He wants to belong. He wants to be wanted, to be loved. He wants a home.

And yet…he also knows (or thinks he knows) what it is he actually has to do. Remember s9 and the extended focus on “I did what I had to do.” When Dean asked Cas back then if he was ok with giving up his human life to become an angel again, Cas’ response was essentially that it didn’t matter - he did what he had to do. 

Cas wants to feel loved, valued, cherished but yet he also thinks his role in this last big fight against God is to sacrifice himself so that the chosen players, namely Sam, Dean, Jack can have a better chance. Not only is this a consistent trait in Cas that we can follow all the way back, but I’m just so in awe that they actually spent so much time in s12 actually exploring Cas’ state of mind and what drives him to feel this way. It’s just very narratively satisfying.

Ok yeah this is long so I’ll post the other parts in separate posts soon, because there’s a lot to say in those too.

[adammilligan]

I've been going through your adam milligan tag because I finally watched his comeback in season 15 and I just gotta say two things. one: you've got the best adam meta, it's seriously so satisfying. two: please talk about lucifer and adam in any context, in whatever stream of consciousness. I'd just love to see some feelings or dynamic explored because I feel like not having anything is such a wasted opportunity.

thank you! it took me a while to get around to this ask because...i’m me lmao but i’m glad you like my adam meta!! and okay lucifer and adam uh....let’s see here. i’ve made a post before about a distinct difference between lucifer and adam and how they handled the whole “god talk” thing with michael and how that highlights certain differences in their characters because, truthfully, adam and lucifer are really on opposite ends of the spectrum—you have a “daddy’s favorite” character versus a “good son” character, with a main difference being that adam wasn’t a good son for his father; no, he doesn’t give a shit about john. it was for his mom! he became an eagle scout and graduated high school with honors, and even his pre-med track mirrored his mother’s job because kate was a nurse. adam is reserved and very under-dramatic compared to the rest of the spn characters, and when you have a character as overly-dramatic and whiny as lucifer clash with someone like that, the results...well, they’d be about what you’d think they would be: a lot of arguing. 

a set of gifs that i’ve seen floating around is adam’s “family sucks” paralleled with lucifer’s “family blows,” which is interesting because it suggests that both of them have taken similar views on the whole “blood family” deal—that it’s not worth shit. this is again contrasted, though, by the way they handle it—lucifer acts like a child, makes himself out to be the victim in every situation (see: his talk with gabriel in apocalypse world), and overall just tries to make himself out to be this “good guy” compared to, say, au!michael and michael (back when he was telling everyone that michael was insane and that he was the better alternatve). adam, on the other hand, never makes himself out to be the victim and handles the situation regarding the winchesters after the cage with reason and an open ear. another interesting thing is that both of them asked for apologies from the family members that slighted them, but—again—this takes a divergence when you see how they handled it. i can’t really remember lucifer’s scenes all too well (he makes me cringe and i refuse to go back and watch him) but i do recall him going “team amara, go amara,” and locking himself in sam’s room blasting music until he got what he wanted, which was a talk with god/apology from god. ergo, he basically absolutely refused to cooperate until his terms were met. adam, on the other hand, simply asked for an apology and, even when he didn’t get one, didn’t hesitate to continue to help and even vouched for the winchesters to michael, displaying his ability to put aside his own feelings for the sake of something bigger (though i wish he would’ve been an asshole about it to them. just a little bit. cmon he actually deserves to apeshit and i’m not budging on this lmao). and, at the end of the episode, he was entirely ready to just walk out of there without having received an apology in any way, shape or form. 

as inherit the earth hasn’t come out yet, i’m not sure if we’re going to get any confirmation that lucifer might’ve tortured adam a bit down there before michael presumably fought him off and protected adam from him. however, seeing as lucifer hasn’t ever mentioned adam before, as of right now i’m of the belief that lucifer either didn’t notice that adam was down there (michael might’ve been shielding him all the way back in his own mind) or was too busy fighting michael to tell. lucifer’s the type who likes bringing shit up, right? so it wouldn’t be ooc for him to have slipped a line or two in about torturing the “winchesters’ baby brother” or whatever. nevertheless, i do think that if lucifer and adam were to meet face-to-face, there would be a little fear on adam’s part—while michael is someone he trusts, lucifer is not only a blatant reminder of the time he spent suffering in the cage but also an archangel who’s out for everyone’s blood, and adam isn’t stupid enough to think that just because he’s friends with one he’s invulnerable to them all. based on the fact that michael and lucifer were fighting for a while down there, it stands to reason that adam knows exactly what lucifer’s capable of and there would definitely be some wariness on his part—since we don’t know what happened down there, that wariness could vary from a reasonable fear to fear akin to sam’s trauma at lucifer’s hands. 

basically, there are some similarities that split into nothing but differences on adam and lucifer’s part, and i think that’s just because they’re such opposing characters: adam is literally everything lucifer’s not, and vice versa. inherit the earth could answer a lot of questions about what may or may not have actually happened in the cage, but we all know the writers: they probably won’t answer shit lmao. 

[incarnateirony]

I'm sorry but you come across as a joke. If SPN had just given me everything I've wanted for a decade - bi Dean - I'd be so thrilled that's all I'd be focusing on. Instead, you're triggered by any person who disagrees. You're calling people who don't see it bitter. You're just trying too hard. Textual confirmation would require non of the exertion. Pro fans would be happy. Antis would be livid. Instead, you're misquoting Kelios because her canon crap posts are mainly about Sam Dean separation. 1

2 But instead of quoting her correctly, you’re implying she thinks what’s crap is that Dean is bi when she literally stated no, Dean isn’t gay or bi so I don’t see how one could interpret that joke. Kelios isn’t saying she’s seeing it. Someone else says they took that joke that way. The problem is - that joke was also taken other ways, by other people. Hence, it’s not clear. At all. My whole timeline of destiel shippers were bored and actually frustrated with the lack of bisexuality.

Wow look at this whole assed joke in my inbox, so let’s break down how many lies, fallacies and intentional misdirections you included over the course of two asks.

1. “IF SPN HAD GIVEN ME WHAT I WANT WHEN I WANTED HOW I WANTED THEN I WOULDN’T BE DELETING THE CURRENT CANON CONTENT NOW” is not a valid defense, I don’t know what you think you accomplished.

2. “Triggered” is nice hot button language, but it’s adorable because you’re… the one *here*. In *my* inbox. Hiding on *your* keyboard behind *tumblr’s anon mask* So now that we have that out of the way, as much as you want to rev this up to being a loss of control by me, I’m not the one screaming about not getting my way exactly how and when I want on my schedule in someone else’s inbox. K?

3. Oh would you like the screenshot where she admit that it’d be gay if it went like that? I posted it twice I can do it again. Or do you need the one of her desperately attempting to pretend Dean fucking half a corpse was a rational explanation? They all know it. 

3b. “Kelios isn’t saying she’s seeing it.”

Okay so you’re right! She didn’t see it. Her anti friend did and talked her through it. She then just blatantly denied the text that came through her screen and then tried to whip up a corpse-fucking answer instead? Cuz the other answer IS gay?

4. Many people took that many ways. *checks all twitter and tumblr trends* Yeah sure okay keep telling yourself that now that you realize you’ve niched your point of view into being contingent on the screaming of several people so obsolete the plot has literally mocked them as villains and had authors block them. It’d really, REALLY suck to realize you’ve been manipulated by a group of tinfoil covered brotherfuckers with a collective IQ of 30 this whole time and that all the warnings you’ve chosen to ignore about it might have been right, GOD that would suck, wouldn’t it?

5. YOU’RE TRYING TOO HARD UWU YOU’RE MAKING TOO MUCH EFFORT

What? Drawing stick figures pointing out how fucking stupid you’re being? Is that hard effort for you?

Answering the anons YOU just sent a multibrick message to MY blog after YOU navigated HERE to do so?

Pointing out that the text is the text?

NOT having to explain in circles? 

Let’s see what effort: “Holy shit another time Dean had a group encounter with a guy only this time they included double dogging a single target in the text.”

Yeah god that’s so much harder a fucking point to reach than “well since that would make dicks touch and he’s not gay then clearly they murdered her, cut her in half, and fucked her corpse.”

Who’s the try hard here?

Or I dunno.

The person who just sent a series of absolute kindergarten level logic in two bricks to my inbox because you are *deadass furious* that I am *flatly celebrating textual content* that *requires NO FURTHER EXPLANATION?*

Yeah sure.

Effort.

Look, your staunch refusal is your problem sweetie. 

Edit: I just realized this person sent me a part 3, 4, and 5 of further wordsalad while I was writing this but it’s equal canon deletion “WAHHH I DON’T LIKE IT” is strong in it, such as “I DON’T LIKE IT LIKE I DON’T LIKE DEAN GOING AFTER A CHEERLEADER” okay but it sucks but that happened? That doesn’t make it go away? I REPEAT IF YOU MISSED IT: THINGS YOU DONT LIKE ARENT NON-CANON JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIKE THEM.

I *am* half tempted to publish this embarrassing mess of the rest of the messages, since they’re at least anon and wouldn’t be publicly mortified by name for a long series of personal revelation that literally lists a long series of events that happened in canon that they don’t like, while debating what “counts” as canon, and saying this isn’t canon because… it’s like… those other… canon… things… 

Literally no matter how much you pretend you’ve successfully jockeyed the goalposts around on What Words Mean and What Happened In The Show, the content and goalpost and target is still there. You’re the only one running in circles. But thanks for unwittingly betraying that it isn’t that you don’t see it, it’s again, that you don’t like it, because you choose in to drag other associations, and then dismiss the content. Because you don’t like it.

Which is the core of this conversation right now.

Thanks.

I’ll pass on individually addressing the rest of this ridiculousness since addressing the first 2/5 asks still took 2 pages to dismantle all the smoke you were pouring out, I really don’t need to double or triple it.

o/~ No matter how hard you try to delete the text, the text still exists. o/~

o/~ It exists if you like it o/~

o/~ It exists if you hate it o/~

o/~ It exists as it exists even if you wish it was more o/~

o/~ The text gives no fucks if you like it o/~

IT SIMPLY EXISTS.

[hannahindie]

Hello! So this is a new blog that I've made. I told myself that I wouldn't make a themed blog but I couldn't help myself. I mean, it's SUPERNATURAL. With that said, I was wondering if you could recommend me any blogs to follow. I love Supernatural and reading amazing stories by amazing people. Please LMK. I'd really appreciate it. xx

First of all, I am so sorry for the delay! Life has been crazy busy, and I wanted to make sure to give you a nice, thought out answer!

Keep in mind I’m not 100% Supernatural, although I would say a majority of it is. I follow a few fandoms to varying extents, and so most of the people I follow are also multi-fandom (although they are also mostly Supernatural). So with that disclaimer, welcome to my list of amazing people who write amazing stories and over all just post some excellent content. It’s in no particular order, really (although my absolute loves of my life will probably be closer to the top :D )

Oh, and PS! For those I knew for sure, I tried to put whether they were safe for work or not. I follow a lot of people who don’t have an age limit on theirs, but I also follow a lot that do. Please heed any warnings, which should be listed in their description at the top. None of us want to be involved in destroying what little innocence kids have these days, and also it’s icky. (I only say this because I don’t know how old you are, and I’m covering all the bases. lol) Please respect the authors if they give an age warning. Alright, carry on.

@trexrambling: She is my writing soulmate, my waterbear, and soon to be fellow convention goer. She is one of the first people I talked to in this fandom when I decided to start writing, and is literally one of my closest friends. Her writing is out of this dang world, her imagery is so on point it causes me physical pain (because it’s wonderful and makes me happy…sometimes….sometimes it’s angsty….but still). She’s been super busy lately, but still finds time to post amazing things. Her posts are like 98% safe for work, so if that’s a thing you’re worried about, she’s got you covered. If not, she still has you covered. Your dashboard will thank you for her presence. Promise.

@wheresthekillswitch: She was the very first person I talked to on here, and is one of the primary reasons I continued to write and post my stuff. She introduced me to @trexrambling and my other online bestie (who will be listed below), and is one of the most welcoming and kind people you’ll find on here. She’s an amazing writer, super supportive, and has a sass that I aspire to achieve. I brag on her a lot, but I can’t help it. She posts things other than SPN too, although that’s the majority, and it’s all amazing content. She does have NSFW content, mostly fics, and they will all be labeled as such. Her masterlist is very well put together and should show you the way.

@pinknerdpanda: My fellow Cas girl and of my closest friends. I’m not sure what I would do without her most days, she keeps me pretty sane. Also, we’re basically the same person (even Tumblr got us confused once), so if you like my content you will probably like hers. Her writing is phenomenal, and her imagery is always on point. She writes everything from angst to fluff to straight up crack. (Actually, all three of these ladies I’ve mentioned are versed in most genres.) On occasion, NSFW. She posts great stuff other than her fics, so you will not be disappointed.

@escabell: So this one is a little off what your question might be because she doesn’t write, but lemme tell you a thing about my girl Sandee: she’s an absolute doll and posts some fantastic stuff. She does amazing reviews for fics, which means she shares some really awesome stories, and her content is fantastic. She does post things other than SPN (my personal faves are all the Sebastian Stan she sends my way), but it’s well worth it. Her SPN stuff is always really awesome.

@deanssweetheart23: Good Lord, go read her stuff. Just go do it. She’s a brilliant writer and an amazing person and just…do yourself a favor and do it. She can literally write anything. Not only that, but she does amazing reblogs that will introduce you to other amazing writers and fics, so there will always be something to check out. She’s legit one of my favorite people on here, and you won’t be disappointed. (I am saying this a lot about all of these people, but like seriously. It’s legit.) I believe most of her stuff is safe for work, mostly just smut adjacent stuff if even that. Her ability to slow burn and give you just enough information to get your imagination going is unrivaled.

@anticipate1003 is a newer blog, but her writing is amazing! She’s also a super awesome person, and incredibly talented. I’m so glad I was able to find her (another thanks to wheresthekillswitch for that), and you’ll enjoy it.

@kathaswings: Just look at her entire masterlist, honestly. She’s super nice, has great content, and always has nice things to say about fics. (I’m not sure if you’ll be writing or you’re doing this strictly to share wonderful writers and read some great stuff, but ya know.) Her feedback always makes me smile, and so do her words.

@theriverscribe: Her imagery is on point, and I love reading her words. She’s super nice, and always has lovely SPN content.

@seenashwrite: I don’t even know where to start with Nash. She’s hysterical, sassy, and her writing style…dude, I don’t even know. Follow Nash. Her masterlist is awesome, and she also writes up some super awesome fic recs so you can find some other great authors. She puts on a great game of Supernatural Cards Against Humanity, so I’d keep an eye out for that too.

@rosie-winchester: Rosie is awesome, and writes super well. She often shares a lot of stuff that I enjoy, and mostly posts SPN. She’s also one of my favorites on here!

@super-not-naturall: I’ve mentioned her on a fic rec list before and I’ll do it again. I love her words, and she’s awesome. She’s busy with school, so I’m always excited to see when she’s posted again. She writes really well and is super enthusiastic, and she makes me happy. I believe she would also make you happy. :)

@amanda-teaches: Again, just check out her Masterlist. It is chock full of great stories. I don’t talk to her as much as some of the others on this list, but I always get excited when I get a notification from her, and she posts quality stuff.

I’m running out of time, so I’m just going to jot down some other bloggers that I like, without as much detail. I know I’m missing people, and I didn’t get nearly as in depth as I wanted to, but keep an eye out. When I have time, I’m going to try to do a fic/writer rec on occasion. I have a hard time keeping up so I’m dreadfully behind, but hopefully after my cons are done, I’ll have some time to breathe.

Here are some other blogs that I think you would enjoy!

@oneshoeshort@mamaredd123@rhapsody-in-flannel@canadianjelly@ravengirl94@littlegreenplasticsoldier

Again, this is not nearly everything I could put but I’m running low on time today. Look for more hopefully sometime soon. :)