Thriller bark discourse is funny coz people act like Zoro can’t be devoted to Luffy’s dream AND want to protect the crew. It’s clear that Sanji wanted to sacrifice himself for Zoro’s dream, Zoro refused to let his friend die, so he sacrificed himself for both Luffy and Sanji in the very end? Do people really think Zoro knocked Sanji out because Sanji was “getting in the way of him sacrificing for Luffy”? It always feels weird when some people frame Zoro and Sanji as two harem waifus competing for Luffy’s attention when they just love their crew very much and would do anything for them.
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ppl these days fail to realize that i can hate coryo and want to fuck him at the same time
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I think fans want Jason to be a good person or be becoming one. To have a character that is well meaning and compassionate but decided murder is ok and to stand against main heroes who’s beliefs and actions go against the people he cares about and wants in his life. It’s confusing for people. People want their fav characters to be happy. But Jason can’t have his family’s support and follow his moral code. He’s cares about people and Gotham, and he’s an asshole who kills. It’s messy. It’s not black and white. I don’t even think Jason cares about being a good person or in the right anymore. I think he cares about what will save the most people instead.
Oh my goodness gracious I’ve been bamboozled
Batman’s definition of Good is not synonymous with absolute good/right no matter how much dc insists it is. Torture, battery/assault, surveillance, those are all condemnable actions too. I won’t get into the exhausting and frankly dumb debate of comic book morality wrt killing because I’ve already reblogged plenty of posts from other people who explained my thoughts on the matter far better than I ever have the patience to sit down and articulate. I also just think the notion that there’s something to be done about fictional characters who kill nazis and senseless murderers is stupid. Jason’s point is that the “main” heroes’ sanitized definition of right has its unaddressed holes and flaws which ultimately result in more preventable fatalities, and that he’ll work to correct those missing spots.
He doesn’t not care about doing what’s right. What he doesn’t care about (at least during his Winick characterization) is whether Batman thinks he’s right or wrong, because he sees the flaws in Batman’s methodology (and since he has a mind of his own). Batman’s methods alone cannot address Arkham’s revolving door and the rogues that come and go through those doors who have no intention (or capability from the doylist pov) of ever changing or undergoing redemption. Jason knows that he’s minimizing the number of preventable deaths by killing his targets, typically Characters Who Simply Do Fucked Up Shit Just Because, Why The Fuck Not?
Secondly, Jason is compassionate … to a fault. That was his fatal flaw. If he wasn’t so hell-bent on saving his potential birth mother he just met from that bomb despite everything she did to him prior, he could have protected himself instead, however slim his odds of survival were. What about his relationship with his other parents? He was a caregiver during his early childhood years for Catherine, until her death. Even mature adults who are financially stable find being a caregiver to a dying parent to be extremely burdensome on their bodies and minds, but he never complained about it or resented Catherine for being unable to care for him. Despite how none of his parents have really been what he needed them to be, he doesn’t blame them for their failings, and even continues to think highly of them (Bruce included).
And post-death? Enter Lost Days. Despite being dead set on plotting his revenge on Bruce, he constantly sidelines this in order to save other victims who are helpless like he once was. His own anger, trauma, and mission don’t remain his priority. (Sound familiar? Something something my own trauma above my son’s, mission above all else, etc.). Why would he waste precious time and risk his own life to do this if he wasn’t empathetic towards these victims or didn’t care about doing the right thing. He is simultaneously horribly traumatized and full of rage, and also incapable of ignoring what’s happening to victims around him (even as he claims that it’s indeed not his priority). And in that same vein, the entire premise of his rebirth outlaws run was that he doesn’t care if the public views him as a villain, an outlaw, so long as he can protect Gotham. And anyway where is this portrayal of him not caring about being in the right anymore. Almost every modern Jason story is about him grappling with where he stands with Bruce/Batman. During the early 2000s was probably the last time he did not care (hello, tentatodd??).
Jason has very evidently been portrayed as a kind and compassionate character. He is also simultaneously a calculated killer who doesn’t hesitate to kill when he deems necessary, and does so without remorse. It’s called being a Complex Character With An Edge™ that as you said, people so often claim to love. However when he fulfills that latter part, that seems to upset people because “killing bad”, and they then try to shave off and round out all his edges and claim he shouldn’t be that angry. In that case I guess you should just stick to liking traditional one-dimensional characters instead of claiming to like Jason but then encouraging his character assassination attempt by dc. Lol.
Lastly, who said anything about the batfam making Jason happy? Just because he’s written nowadays to want acceptance from Bruce (a shoddy attempt at forcing a non-existent nuclear batfamily), doesn’t mean that it’s a sound decision or that it does his character justice. I certainly don’t empathize with the idea that Jason needs the family’s approval or acceptance to be happy. (And anyway he has enough outlets for angst and pain aside from the batfam hello explore his other sources of trauma and do more deep dives into how he thinks when he’s alone). I don’t want them to magically make up and become one big happy family. This is not disney Lol. Besides, there are plenty of stories from dc that have that type of “wholesome” (hate that word utilization) characterization for Jason (Li’l Gotham, Tiny Titans, wfa, and even new stuff like the brave and the bold mini) and that is sufficient imo. Jason fans who are invested in the character deserve accurate, nuanced characterization and well-written stories, whether they be from his robin days (e.g., Batman: The Cult) or as red hood.
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i think a lot of baby gays’ first experience with the lgbt community was on 2020 tiktok during the peak of “lesbian soft cottagecore running in the grass and holding pinkies”, which for some reason has led to a weird fear of “sexualizing” women? it’s perfectly okay to feel sexual feelings towards a girl, there’s no shame it in. you don’t have to police your thoughts, you’re not evil or broken for a very human emotion
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Representation isn’t just about realism though, right? 🤔 It’s also about being seen in every sphere of life, which includes in silly unrealistic tv shows and movies
Like, realistic portrayals of minority groups and marginalised people are important but, aside from the fact that no group of people is a monolith therefore ymmv on realistic, it’s also important (at least imho) to just have all kinds of people exist in all kinds of media
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What exactly is the Eggman Nega in your AU? Is he from the future? Is he strictly from blazes dimension? Is he a descendent of Dr. Eggman? I have questions.
Both!
He’s a descendant of Eggman’s from 200 years in the future. After realizing everyone in his home dimension really dislikes anyone with the Robotnik name, he travels to the Sol dimension for a “fresh start”.
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Tbh. Considering how many self identified queer people view maleness and queerness as inherently at odds. It almost feels like an indirect way of misgendering me when u call me queer. Like “yeah I use the word queer bc I hate men and that’s why you’re queer too.” They’re surprised if I get along with or stand up for any man bc why would I, I’m not one of them, I’m a queer.
Yes plenty of binary and/or cis men identify as queer, or get called that against their will. But given that the biggest talking point I hear regarding why queer is the required term, is to separate yourself from gay men, it feels like i get relentlessly called queer bc im not seen as a man. Would maybe feel like a reach if not for the fact that these people are consistently shocked that I identify as male and like being male
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