I do gotta say tho, even tho I’m mad at aziraphale because he’s being a terrible boyfriend like what you said about the “I forgive you like” because WHAT. But also I really like the way the show really demonstrates the underlying cruelty of heaven and it’s angels. Really shows the hypocrisy of a group of beings who are supposed to do good, especially aziraphale who really buys into the heaven propaganda, who hurts people, particularly the person who means the most to him. Because like you said he fully just takes advantage of that devotion Crowley has for him. Insane, this shwo makes me INSANE
I missed this anon and yeah! The angels were one of my favourite parts of the season, and I think the strongest element aside from Neil Gaiman deciding he's just a simple man who wants to put his otp in situations. They are deeply awful and I kind of love them. They are the exact kind of moralizing hypocrites who are callous and cruel precisely because they think being on team good means everything they do is justified and it's actually impossible for them to be in the wrong (they're angels! is it even possible for them to do the wrong thing?).
but!! To me, they also seem like they're basically kids? Obviously they're not literally children, but there is this very consistent reoccurring joke about how childish/sheltered/immature they are. Muriel is the most obvious example, but the archangels come off like bratty twelve year olds to her sweet little kid.
Gabriel is basically teenager in love flipping off his family as he runs away with his backstreet guy. Uriel is constantly picking at Michael, Michael is playing at being in charge like it's a game, and it's ridiculously easy for both Aziraphale and Crowely to trick them obvious half assed lies. They're not allowed to ask questions! The Metatron treats them like badly behaved kids out past their curfew. At any point an old man with a beard may pop up to scold them and send them home, and they're all scared of doing something wrong by his standards and getting in trouble with this guy who is pointedly not God but who lines up exactly with the pop-culture idea of god the father, and who offers Aziraphale, among other things, a respite from the hard work of figuring out what the right thing to do is for himself. It's fine! You don't have to question the belief system you were born into or make a painful break with everything you've ever known! Aziraphale has had six thousand years on earth to grow up, but the other angels have been sitting in a sterile white box playing "i'm not touching you" games with each other and filing paperwork.
And I think that's extra interesting because this season also really emphasizes:
Heaven has Institutional Problems
Aziraphale isn't the only angel who's unhappy in heaven. Gabriel and Muriel were both completely miserable. They just didn't understand that they were unhappy because they'd never experienced anything else.
Angels who aren't Aziraphale can change and grow! There's very explicitly Gabriel being changed by love and Muriel growing up a bit on earth, and from a more fan-theory angle there's also Jimbriel, who I think is probably basically Gabriel minus the war and six thousand years of playing referee for Michael and Uriel while unleashing an assortment of plague and calamities on earth because that's God's will! Buck up champ.
We also get Gabriel and Beezelebub talking about how their underlings basically live for Armageddon, "if you can call that living." This is so bleak. They've all been on a six thousand year time out just dreaming of the day they get to beat the shit out of each other until they feel better, but it won't work because eternity is just more of the box.
Anyway I think it's going in a distinctly eden adjacent direction. Aziraphale is going to tempt those angels with knowledge and the capacity for change. I have veered so far from your ask anon i'm sorry you're right heaven really went all out on sucking this season & while Crowley and Aziraphale are both fucking it up Crowley refrains from being spectacularly cruel to Aziraphale about it and Aziraphale should learn to return the favour. I forgive you!! I forGIVE you. I forgive YOU. "you can be an angel again" is actually a worse thing to say than "you're a demon. i don't even like you." when he finally picks crowley over heaven i'm going to lose my mind.
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Snape asks: 14 & 19, please! :)
Thank you so much for the ask! It became much longer than I initially intended. I hope you don't mind! ;)
14. Favorite Snape line/moment? (books or movies!)
There are many moments I love (many I can't recall at the moment), such as the sarcastic bow he gave to Umbridge. But I absolutely love the response he gives right before when he says, "No idea." Absolutely savage. I love in particular that it's a public display right in front of all our main characters of how he performs his role as a double-agent, whether if they realize it or not.
Also his response to Dumbledore when he's asked to be the one to kill him, "Would you like me to do it now...or would you like a few moments to compose an epitaph?" His sarcasm towards other adults feels extra "done with this shit" to me.
And I have a special place in my heart for his response to Lily, "It's real for us."
19. What’s the song that always has you thinking of Snape?
Oh HO do I have something for this.
This response became much longer than I meant it to. There wasn't a single song for me but a couple. These songs are what I was listening to at the time that I really became invested in Snape's character, so they're a bit old. Back then and even now, I was most interested in his love for and (platonic) friendship with Lily and the effects they had on each other's lives when their friendship ended. I really focused on it being a tragedy for the both of them.
The Prince's Tale by the Butterbeer Experience
It's a beautiful song that summarizes the Prince's Tale chapter from Snape's perspective. It's an absolutely beautiful performance.
Songs by Broken Iris:
- Beautiful Girl (Snape's POV)
- A New Hope (Snape's POV)
Songs by Red:
- Let it Burn (Lily during the war asking if Snape found it all worth it and if he's really going to turn away from the misery his cause has inflicted on people)
- Start Again (Snape's POV)
- Yours Again (Snape's POV)
Fire Fire by Flyleaf.
Listening to it, it sounds like Lily's perspective as a third-party spectator watching Snape's life play out. She's watching his life, picking out moments and fitting them together as she's realizing that Snape's turning for the worse. This song eerily fits his life.
I was going to summarize, but I ended up going through the whole song:
"Almost thought we'd made it home
But we don't know this place at all
That's enough now, dry your tears
It's been a long 11 years"
I took this as young Snape believing that Hogwarts would be a safe-haven where he finally managed to escaped to, but he instead just ran into more and greater torment.
"Fire, fire, fire
Fire from the tongues of liars"
This is the chorus, and it matches the lies he was fed since he was young about blood purity and the beginnings of the ideology and insecurities that would shape his actions further on in his life.
"You're ashamed of where you're from
Crying 'cause your father's drunk
We can't die because we're young
At least that's what we heard in a song"
How he felt towards his childhood and his father. Also the hope that stories of Hogwarts gave him as he shares them with Lily.
"You're ashamed of what you've done
Crying 'cause your father's wrong
Trying to be something new
You'll feel that you have something to prove"
There are two moments this makes me think of. One is right after the moodblood incident as he fully turns to the Death Eaters, and the other which I believe fits the best, which is right after he's placed Lily in danger. He gained the information and passed it on to Voldemort in order to prove himself. Voldemort is the father in this instance, while Snape is completely turning against him after Lily's life had become at risk.
"What you confuse for glory's fire
Is fire from the tongues of liars
What you confuse for glory's fire
Is fire from the tongues of liars"
This is reiterating the chorus, and it's when Snape is realizing the glory he sought after with Voldemort was meaningless to him and made up of perverse lies that were told to recruit him.
"You're afraid of who you are
Crying 'cause your father's gone
Clinging to your youthful truth
You'll find that you've nothing to lose
You'll find that you've nothing to prove"
This is after Dumbledore's death, with Dumbledore taking the role of the father here. At this point, he's thinking back to his childhood with Lily and his childhood in Slytherin House. The memory of Lily keeps him going, while he's become fully disconnected from his past motivations he had developed while in Slytherin.
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