#ue Vegeta

[upgradewater]

[sekora2000]

Path of the Angel / Path of the Destroyer

[galaxymindart]

art yippee(part 2)

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the Spy oc belongs to a friend of mine, @plasma-legendary! go check 'em out! ^^

[turtletoads]

Just when I thought SSJ4 form was perfect you decided to give them a more animalistic facial structure,,, it blew my mind. Tooooo good!

https://www.tumblr.com/turtletoads/752066034598543360/ssj4-but-cat

Love how you draw SSJ4! Maybe you could do an AU where SSJ4 is the default form for Saiyans and mixed in with your awesome way of drawing them it would be the bomb!

i went a little overboard

[ancientforgcd]

Peak Super Saiyan Blue

What I really like about SSB is that it has lasted all the way from the start of Super to the Granolah Arc. Truly a peak transformation. That being said, I think now even Perfected Blue won't be strong enogh, so Goku and Vegeta will be using Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego far more and refining them as well.

[idnegrosupernegro]

So if ultra ego becomes more powerful as vegeta takes more damage but vegeta has a limited durability even as a superhuman, what's the benefit of using it if there's no continually increasing durability, endurance, recovery/healing, etc. to go with the power increase? I feel like the part that would really drive someone using it to lean into their "lust for battle" is realizing that "hey I'm getting my ass kicked but I'm also recovering from my injuries just as fast so it doesn't really matter how bad I'm beat it'll make me stronger regardless". This is the real danger because now there's no incentive to STOP fighting even if you've won.

Also vegeta has the same hakai aura as GOD Toppo so isn't that just another reason for him to dive into fights (assuming the above conditions were present)?

[bahnloopi]

In their base forms, would you say goku and vegeta could be considered stronger than the Santos, sense they aren't quite as into fighting as they are? Or are they rather on par with them? Or is it all in their technique instead that gives them an edge in their fights?

So the scale is that the Sentos excluding Orran are on SSJ3 level by default. The natural elements around them stack them along with their special abilities and natural Oozaru transformation. Their edge is their palm-strike fighting and unpredictability which makes it hard to guess/counter them. Plus they're grapplers.

Now, given Goku and Vegeta are on god status, I have to even the odds here or else it's just gonna be a boring power sweep. In the upcoming sparring tag-team match, I'm making Goku and Vegeta fight using strictly hand-to-hand combat, no ki-based offense attacks. This puts them on even grounds with Sheeri and Roube as well as test their actual teamwork abilities against foreign foes with different fighting styles. I'm taking it back to og db style of just straight hands and skill instead of ki spamming.

Now Orran in Legendary can box UI and UE on solos but have trouble when they actually team-up.

"Atom Strike" (the "guessing" sequence) is basically a split second "time-stop" where the Sento can see 2 to 3 possible offense attack/counter attack of the opponent depending on their directional movement and atmospheric pressure in that moment. Only Sheeri and Orran are experienced with this technique.

Never let your enemy know your next move.

[roy-dcm2]

DBS Super Hero Reaction

I finally watched Dragon Ball Super Hero. Here’s my thoughts.

I think it’s weird that in a movie with the term “Super Hero” in the title, that LOVES to make overt references to the past, we don’t get any mention of Great Saiyaman 1 / 2. Of course, it’s all an allusion to Gamma 1 / 2 as Tokosatsu-style heroes.

Honestly, it’s really fun to see Magenta POV from the outside looking in and telling us what some people THINK is going on with Capsule Corp. I imagine he put this together from the scraps of information that he could glean from Dr. Gero’s observations. It does track.

People know about Nappa and Vegeta arriving. The Saiyan’s pod ended up at CC. And it would be easy for people to spot the Namekians living in Capsule Corp. So, you could conclude that Bulma is getting access to Alien Tech. But, Magenta also assumes that the Capsule technology is rooted in alien tech. As far as we know, it isn’t. And then Magenta jumps to the conclusion that CC is paving the way for an alien invasion… without evidence.

Obviously, Magenta is biased. Being a military organization, everything looks like a battle. He can’t contemplate that the Saiyans and Namekians are essentially refugees, and CC is just being philanthropic.

Overall, the movie is just fun! It has those original Dragonaball references for old fans like me, and the Tokusatsu stuff for the younger audience (in Japan). They are being cheeky with the Goku and Vegeta stuff. Whis forces them to fight without transforming because they had no idea what was happening in the manga. (They made this movie in the middle of the Granola arc, even though it takes place AFTER it). So, they couldn’t show off Ultra Instinct / Ego.

As I like to say, the movies are just more, and this movie gave us a bunch of really great Piccolo scenes. Him chastising Gohan, pretending to be a Red Ribbon solider, all the stuff with him and Pan. The main event fight doesn’t start until about an hour in… so, we get more time of them NOT fighting than fighting. I love it.

This is Piccolo's movie... and I don't want to hear any BS about "Piccolo is Gohan's real dad." As much as I like Piccolo. Piccolo spends half the movie telling the audience that Gohan isn't good enough. Then at the climax, Piccolo just expects Gohan to find it in himself to defeat Cell Max. Which is the the EXACT same thing Goku did during the Cell Games! Except Goku ALWAYS believed in his son!

With that all being said… I kinda wish this wasn’t canon.

Mainly, because as good as the set up is, the conclusion feels unearned. It might be a consequence of being a movie, but (in my opinion) when you have two big character developments, at least one of them should feel triumphant.

First, it irks me that Piccolo wishes to unlock his hidden power and Shenron “throws in something else.” Why can’t it just be his hidden power? Now I’m wondering what the fuck that symbol is. And this is the second time someone has WISHED for a power-up. It feels really lame and unearned. It kinda sucked when they did it for Super Saiyan God, then it sucked again when SS Blue just happened. Now, we have Orange Piccolo on that list.

Maybe they’ll explain it better in the manga, but what made SSj1 (and SSJ2 to a different extent) was how well they seeded them before they appeared. (SSJ3 sucks because they didn’t build up to it correctly.)

My theory is that it's a mix of Ultra Instinct / Ego, but it still doesn't explain how he managed to tap into either of them. You could say because Gohan talks about practicing the "demon drill" in secret, he's also been training with UI-UE in secret too.

Then there’s Beast Gohan. 25 min into the battle, Piccolo gets bodied, and Gohan rages out. I’d like to know why this isn’t just the SSJ2 transformation? What is this transformation? Where did it come from? I have my theories… but from a narrative perspective, it’s just a dues ex machina. SSJ1 was not a dues ex machine – it had real ramifications after it happened. Beast Gohan appeared to resolve the plot and then disappeared.

They need to do what they did with Slug and say - that wasn’t a real transformation. Then actually explain what "Beast Mode" is supposed to be.

7/10 – The spectacle is great, but the best part is the first half. Feel free to leave your comments (and theories about Beast Gohan) in the comments below!

[op-dbz-ladies]

So Beerus has anti-gag logic power as a destroyer.

I wonder how much divine ki one needs to get that power up.

Can UE Vegeta just tank some of Arales attacks?

[bigfan1811]

so you know how saiyan transformations like Super Saiyan God, Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego are basically just Goku and Vegeta turning techniques into transformations? Like UE is just destruction power turned into a form, Ultra Instinct is the technique of the angels turned into a form, and Super Saiyan God is just a way for them to use God Ki, but all three techniques can be used in other forms (Goku’s learning to use ultra instinct in all his forms in the manga, so is Vegeta with Destruction, and both saiyans have God Ki naturally now without using a transformation)

What if they did the same with Magic? What if theoretically a saiyan were to learn magic and their saiyan biology would give them a new super form that allowed them to use magic to their full potential? I think it’d be a neat idea

[upgradewater]

i wanted to try @/nachairo's ultra ego vegeta redraw!

[audhdgoku]

IG Gonna Put Stuff Under A Read More; Sys Stuff [Foxden Sys Is What Ive Been Pensively Calling Myself Be4 I Even FIGURED IW as A System But Um Ig Heres Stuff If Ur Interested ^^;

A Main Front: Goku; He/They/Kit [Just Like Jasper]

Note: GOKU LIKES 2 TALKIN CAPS N USES #S N LETTERS 2 SHORTEN WORDS [THIS ALSO MEANS HE MAKES TYPOS A LOT!!!!] - [P Much All Goku’s Besides Child/GT (I DO NOT Kin/Relate To Child Goku, SSJ4 IS ON THE TABLE AND A PART OF THE GOKU’S) [[MY GOKU HAS HIS TAIL, BTW]] ] Goku Is An AuDHD Trans Masc [Like Myself], Post Top Op And Is Married To My Partners Vegeta Kin

TransMasc/Gay

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Second Main Front: Vegito; They/Him

Note: TALKS IN CAPS A LOT!!!!! USES LOTS OF EXCLAMATIONS!!!!!!! And Text Emojis ^_^!!!!!!! Gets Annoyed EASILY!!!!!!! WHEN TALKING IN CAPS, THEY TEND TO USE TONE INDICATORS TO SHOW THEY AREN'T MAD/UPSET -- Might Have Psychosis? - [ALL FORMS BABEY, ALSO HAS HIS TAIL!] [[HELPS MY PARTNER KINS VEGETA AND ZAMASU AND ME W GOKU LMFAO]] Vegito Is Trans Masc, Post Top Op (My Vegito Is Also Separated From Bulma/Chi Chi And Is Kind Of Enamored With Post-Fused Zamasu, AND My Partners Own Gogeta) ((DB Universe Is Fucky And If U Kno About Zamasu’s Story Line, They Used The SDB To More Or Less Make Vegito Permanent And With No Prior Relationships [Familial Or Otherwise] ))

TransMasc/Gay

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Third [?] Front: UI Goku; They/It/Void/???

Note: V Ethereal, Speaks W A Soft Yet Commanding Tone; Almost Like Static + The Voice UI Goku Has In DB Sparking Zero. He Just Kinda Vibes In And Out Of The Universe. ABSOLUTELY Head Over Heels For Prince's Ultra Ego Vegeta; Even Serves As Their 'Angel' While Their UE Vegeta Serves As The Universe's Destroyer God

Gendervoid/DemiSexual

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OTHERS; Still Working W Them But I KNOW Theyre N My Brain lol -

Gohan [He/They/Dae/PENSIVELY She [[Ask First]] ] - Lmao What If Prince Started Kinning Shin And We Made Them And Gohan Kiss Haha Just Kidding……… Unless?

DemiBisexual/Nonbinary

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Bardock [He/Him/His] - My Partner MIGHT Kin King Vegeta So This One Kinda Happened On Accident Lmao, And Yes, My Bardock Adores Him

Gay Male/TransMasc

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Raditz [He/Him] - This One Started As A Joke Cause Of The Turles/Raditz Ship But Then Prince Realized They Kin Turles And Then Me Havin Raditz In My Head Just KINDA HAPPENED??

Gay/TransMasc

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Goku Black [He/They] - [Teehee Prince Kins Zamasu uwu]. This ABSOLUTELY Includes Super Saiyan Rose

Gay/TransMasc

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Z Broly [Xe/Xim]

Neos / Questioning Sexuality [Broly Art Credit]

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S Broly [Ask Pronouns]

Demisexual/Nonbinary

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Cell [They/Them] - Haha What If Prince Also Kinned Frieza And We Made These Stupid Bug And Lizard Idiots Kiss In Between Bouts Of Being Bitchy @ Each Other Haha Just Kidding……… Unless?

Agender/Pansexual

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Potential Alters????: Goten, Android 17

IG It ALso Should Have Been Obv When All My 'Kins' Have Their Own Sexuality/Gender Expressions/Type Style/Ect Like ME @ ME ???? HELLO????

[momwool]

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[pics-that-make-you-goku]

This is what Ultra Ego Vegeta looks like.

[machimachilegends]

Grand Priest

Whis / Vados

Beerus, Lesser Ultra Instinct or Borderline Ultra Ego

Gogeta Blue / Vegito Blue, Kamehameha Variant

Gas, Transformed

Gas / Granolah, Red Eyes

Ultra Ego Vegeta / Ultra Instinct Goku, Unresolved

Granolah

Planet Moro, but Beerus thinks he can help, lol

Jiren, Adapting + Innate Potential

Moro, Merus’s Powers (Strong vs Tough intensifies)

Jiren

Belmod

Champa / Select Other Destruction Gods

Moro, Copy Powers

Ultra Instinct Omen Goku, Minus the Instinct

Ultra Instinct Omen Goku

Evolved Blue Vegeta

SS Berserk Broly

PSSB Goku, Power Stressed

Merged Zamasu, Immortal

SS Gogeta / SS Vegito

SS Broly, Capping, Goku wanted a Senzu > Fusion

Toppo, God Ki / PSSB Vegeta / Golden Freeza

Gohan, After Actually Training

Hit, Time Lag / Android 17

Base Gogeta / Base Vegito, By Default via Senzu

SS Berserk Kefla / “Base” Gohan, Potential + Senses

Base Vegito, No Senzu, Was Sus’d a New OP Form

Merged Zamasu, Suppressed

Ikari Broly, Capped

SS Berserk Kale

SSB Goku / SSB Vegeta, After Training

SSR Goku Black / SSG Vegeta, After Training

Base Broly, Capped

SS Caulifla, Full Powered Blast + Adrenaline

SSB Goku / SSB Vegeta, Before Training, Fresh

SS2 F.Trunks, After Training

Base Freeza

SS Goku Black, Another Zenkai via Zamasu’s Healing

SSG Goku, Before Training / Hit, Before Time Lag

SS3 Goku, Before Training but Saiyan Beyond God

SS2 Vegeta, Before Training but Saiyan Beyond God

SS Goku Black, Zenkai via Zamasu’s Healing

SS Goku Black, No Zenkai

Future Merged Zamasu

Base Goku Black, No Zenkai

SS2 Goku/Vegeta, Before Super Saiyan God Ritual

Ultimate Gohan, Before Reconditioning & Training

Super Buu

SS2 F.Trunks, Amped like SS3

Buu

SS2 Gohan, Z Sword Trained

Base Gohan, Z Sword Trained

SS2 F.Trunks

SS2 Teen Gohan, Rage Amped

Future Dabura / SS F.Trunks

Piccolo, Buu Saga and maybe RoF Saga

Freeza, 100% Power on Planet Namek