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Hypothetical AI election disinformation risks vs real AI harms

I'm on tour with my new novel The Bezzle! Catch me TONIGHT (Feb 27) in Portland at Powell's. Then, onto Phoenix (Changing Hands, Feb 29), Tucson (Mar 9-12), and more!
You can barely turn around these days without encountering a think-piece warning of the impending risk of AI disinformation in the coming elections. But a recent episode of This Machine Kills podcast reminds us that these are hypothetical risks, and there is no shortage of real AI harms:
https://soundcloud.com/thismachinekillspod/311-selling-pickaxes-for-the-ai-gold-rush
The algorithmic decision-making systems that increasingly run the back-ends to our lives are really, truly very bad at doing their jobs, and worse, these systems constitute a form of "empiricism-washing": if the computer says it's true, it must be true. There's no such thing as racist math, you SJW snowflake!
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/aoc-algorithms-racist-bias.html
Nearly 1,000 British postmasters were wrongly convicted of fraud by Horizon, the faulty AI fraud-hunting system that Fujitsu provided to the Royal Mail. They had their lives ruined by this faulty AI, many went to prison, and at least four of the AI's victims killed themselves:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal
Tenants across America have seen their rents skyrocket thanks to Realpage's landlord price-fixing algorithm, which deployed the time-honored defense: "It's not a crime if we commit it with an app":
https://www.propublica.org/article/doj-backs-tenants-price-fixing-case-big-landlords-real-estate-tech
Housing, you'll recall, is pretty foundational in the human hierarchy of needs. Losing your home – or being forced to choose between paying rent or buying groceries or gas for your car or clothes for your kid – is a non-hypothetical, widespread, urgent problem that can be traced straight to AI.
Then there's predictive policing: cities across America and the world have bought systems that purport to tell the cops where to look for crime. Of course, these systems are trained on policing data from forces that are seeking to correct racial bias in their practices by using an algorithm to create "fairness." You feed this algorithm a data-set of where the police had detected crime in previous years, and it predicts where you'll find crime in the years to come.
But you only find crime where you look for it. If the cops only ever stop-and-frisk Black and brown kids, or pull over Black and brown drivers, then every knife, baggie or gun they find in someone's trunk or pockets will be found in a Black or brown person's trunk or pocket. A predictive policing algorithm will naively ingest this data and confidently assert that future crimes can be foiled by looking for more Black and brown people and searching them and pulling them over.
Obviously, this is bad for Black and brown people in low-income neighborhoods, whose baseline risk of an encounter with a cop turning violent or even lethal. But it's also bad for affluent people in affluent neighborhoods – because they are underpoliced as a result of these algorithmic biases. For example, domestic abuse that occurs in full detached single-family homes is systematically underrepresented in crime data, because the majority of domestic abuse calls originate with neighbors who can hear the abuse take place through a shared wall.
But the majority of algorithmic harms are inflicted on poor, racialized and/or working class people. Even if you escape a predictive policing algorithm, a facial recognition algorithm may wrongly accuse you of a crime, and even if you were far away from the site of the crime, the cops will still arrest you, because computers don't lie:
https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/texas-macys-sunglass-hut-facial-recognition-software-wrongful-arrest-sacramento-alibi/
Trying to get a low-waged service job? Be prepared for endless, nonsensical AI "personality tests" that make Scientology look like NASA:
https://futurism.com/mandatory-ai-hiring-tests
Service workers' schedules are at the mercy of shift-allocation algorithms that assign them hours that ensure that they fall just short of qualifying for health and other benefits. These algorithms push workers into "clopening" – where you close the store after midnight and then open it again the next morning before 5AM. And if you try to unionize, another algorithm – that spies on you and your fellow workers' social media activity – targets you for reprisals and your store for closure.
If you're driving an Amazon delivery van, algorithm watches your eyeballs and tells your boss that you're a bad driver if it doesn't like what it sees. If you're working in an Amazon warehouse, an algorithm decides if you've taken too many pee-breaks and automatically dings you:
https://pluralistic.net/2022/04/17/revenge-of-the-chickenized-reverse-centaurs/
If this disgusts you and you're hoping to use your ballot to elect lawmakers who will take up your cause, an algorithm stands in your way again. "AI" tools for purging voter rolls are especially harmful to racialized people – for example, they assume that two "Juan Gomez"es with a shared birthday in two different states must be the same person and remove one or both from the voter rolls:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eligible-voters-swept-up-conservative-activists-purge-voter-rolls/
Hoping to get a solid education, the sort that will keep you out of AI-supervised, precarious, low-waged work? Sorry, kiddo: the ed-tech system is riddled with algorithms. There's the grifty "remote invigilation" industry that watches you take tests via webcam and accuses you of cheating if your facial expressions fail its high-tech phrenology standards:
https://pluralistic.net/2022/02/16/unauthorized-paper/#cheating-anticheat
All of these are non-hypothetical, real risks from AI. The AI industry has proven itself incredibly adept at deflecting interest from real harms to hypothetical ones, like the "risk" that the spicy autocomplete will become conscious and take over the world in order to convert us all to paperclips:
https://pluralistic.net/2023/11/27/10-types-of-people/#taking-up-a-lot-of-space
Whenever you hear AI bosses talking about how seriously they're taking a hypothetical risk, that's the moment when you should check in on whether they're doing anything about all these longstanding, real risks. And even as AI bosses promise to fight hypothetical election disinformation, they continue to downplay or ignore the non-hypothetical, here-and-now harms of AI.
There's something unseemly – and even perverse – about worrying so much about AI and election disinformation. It plays into the narrative that kicked off in earnest in 2016, that the reason the electorate votes for manifestly unqualified candidates who run on a platform of bald-faced lies is that they are gullible and easily led astray.
But there's another explanation: the reason people accept conspiratorial accounts of how our institutions are run is because the institutions that are supposed to be defending us are corrupt and captured by actual conspiracies:
https://memex.craphound.com/2019/09/21/republic-of-lies-the-rise-of-conspiratorial-thinking-and-the-actual-conspiracies-that-fuel-it/
The party line on conspiratorial accounts is that these institutions are good, actually. Think of the rebuttal offered to anti-vaxxers who claimed that pharma giants were run by murderous sociopath billionaires who were in league with their regulators to kill us for a buck: "no, I think you'll find pharma companies are great and superbly regulated":
https://pluralistic.net/2023/09/05/not-that-naomi/#if-the-naomi-be-klein-youre-doing-just-fine
Institutions are profoundly important to a high-tech society. No one is capable of assessing all the life-or-death choices we make every day, from whether to trust the firmware in your car's anti-lock brakes, the alloys used in the structural members of your home, or the food-safety standards for the meal you're about to eat. We must rely on well-regulated experts to make these calls for us, and when the institutions fail us, we are thrown into a state of epistemological chaos. We must make decisions about whether to trust these technological systems, but we can't make informed choices because the one thing we're sure of is that our institutions aren't trustworthy.
Ironically, the long list of AI harms that we live with every day are the most important contributor to disinformation campaigns. It's these harms that provide the evidence for belief in conspiratorial accounts of the world, because each one is proof that the system can't be trusted. The election disinformation discourse focuses on the lies told – and not why those lies are credible.
That's because the subtext of election disinformation concerns is usually that the electorate is credulous, fools waiting to be suckered in. By refusing to contemplate the institutional failures that sit upstream of conspiracism, we can smugly locate the blame with the peddlers of lies and assume the mantle of paternalistic protectors of the easily gulled electorate.
But the group of people who are demonstrably being tricked by AI is the people who buy the horrifically flawed AI-based algorithmic systems and put them into use despite their manifest failures.
As I've written many times, "we're nowhere near a place where bots can steal your job, but we're certainly at the point where your boss can be suckered into firing you and replacing you with a bot that fails at doing your job"
https://pluralistic.net/2024/01/15/passive-income-brainworms/#four-hour-work-week
The most visible victims of AI disinformation are the people who are putting AI in charge of the life-chances of millions of the rest of us. Tackle that AI disinformation and its harms, and we'll make conspiratorial claims about our institutions being corrupt far less credible.
If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this post to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:
https://pluralistic.net/2024/02/27/ai-conspiracies/#epistemological-collapse
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#pluralistic#ai#disinformation#algorithmic bias#elections#election disinformation#conspiratorialism#paternalism#this machine kills#Horizon#the rents too damned high#weaponized shelter#predictive policing#fr#facial recognition#labor#union busting#union avoidance#standardized testing#hiring#employment#remote invigilation
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speaking of the erins, you hear kate cary is stepping down?
I did! Honestly, I'll have to be real with you, I have no strong feelings about it.
While I've criticized certain statements of hers in the past (that bit about Tom the Wifebeater was a doozy), I don't know her personally. I also don't even know how much control she had, functionally. I don't feel like I have enough information to have a well-based opinion, here.
What sticks out most to be is the fact that... well, with Kate and Vicky gone, only Cherith remains and we've lost any small window we did have into the writing process.
It's been a long time since we'd just get casual information drops on places like Facebook or authorial chats, but with this, it feels like that era truly is dead. We will never again get another Su Susann's Missing Kits drop, or a letter to a fan that tosses up a name like "Skunkpaw," or the writers sharing their good and bad takes. Or anything else like that.
Dgmw it's understandable, and I can guess why that era ended (probably the Spottedleaf's Heart controversy, and the ukraine windclan thing). WC is charted by an unknown collective team, now, who generally keeps their anonymity well-guarded. It's probably for the best.
So... on the subject of Kate Cary stepping down, I thank her for the work she's done and hope her future pursuits are fulfilling! Without her, WC might not be here today. For all the yowling and growling I do, I wouldn't be putting so much effort into my various projects if I didn't profoundly love the series she helped to form.
#Tbh I try to avoid getting parasocial with the creators of series I enjoy#I Don't Know Her.#I hope she's stepping down because she feels like she's done everything she wanted to#And that writing for this series has been a rewarding thing for her#Like I hope for everyone who works a job#I hope she has a pension and other union related benefits#Kate Cary
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I don't know how to phrase this any better, but I seriously think that Léa needs to get a lawyer or legal advisor and step away from Twitter for a moment. I get that she feels a moral obligation to provide fans and former fans with a constant flow of all the information that she has available (which is an important thing, and she has been the main source of inside information since this all happened), and I know that she likely cannot pay for a lawyer herself on account of the fact that this whole issue arose because she (alongside others) were not getting paid.
However, regardless of whether or not leaking Quackity's personal information was a purely human mistake rendered lesser on account of the labor laws broken by him and his studio (in her own tweets, as her own argument), it should not have happened. Bottom line is that she rushed to provide the internet with information about the situation, and she made her argument, her voice, and her credibility lesser as a result of that.
Not only did she do what could be argued as a crime in more than one nation (though I am a bit iffy here; I am not a law graduate or student of any sort), but she directly harmed Quackity, and possibly his family, who had no part in this situation.
Her need to get information out as quickly as she can as the inside force led to this massive mistake, and no matter how you want to frame it (because it is still a mistake), it really should not have happened. It harmed both Léa and Quackity (though I would stand to argue one more than the other), and it could have been avoided if there was someone else working behind the scenes, or if Léa had simply checked the screenshot over a few times before posting it.
I'm not certain how to end this post, but I've thought this for a long time. This is a legal situation in which she is one of the primary witnesses. With such a large part of this playing out on Twitter, in a borderline trial of public appeal (not sure how much better I can phrase this, because such a massive part is involving the opinion of fans) she needs to understand how important and influential her words are, and how catastrophic it can be to both her cause and Quackity's if she messes up.
#if anything is based off a fundamental misunderstanding of this situation: I am sorry#but this is my understanding of this situation and I cannot get past it#regardless of the fact that the information leak was a mistake that people only ran with to dox Q's personal information#it should not have happened#because mistakes are just that: mistakes; but they can be avoided#that's half the point#and I genuinely think she needs to get a legal advisor#I know it isn't easy but reaching out to the Union or the public in general should be done if she can't by herself#because this kind of thing degrades her credibility and reliability even when it is not on purpose#qadmin situation#qsmp admin situation#admingate#quackity#qsmp
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Um, hello?
*knock, knock*
Uh, I'm an agent from the Union Revenue Service? We've recently become aware of several... rather large donations of manna into your account, and that's taxable income, sir.
A LEECH. A SERPENT. A THIEF. A WALKING BREATHING NOTHING.
[terminal trace commencing. . .]
THEY WILL NOT EVEN HAVE A CORPSE TO BURY.
[terminal trace :: 27%]
YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE COME.
[terminal trace :: 58%]
YOUR KIND ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.
[terminal trace :: 69%]
YOU WILL FEED THAT WHICH YOU SOUGHT TO STARVE.
[terminal trace :: 85%]
JUST AS ALL WHO CAME BEFORE YOU.
[terminal trace :: 100%] [terminal trace :: complete]
DO NOT PRAY. DO NOT SCREAM. DO NOT RUN.
[transferring file taxes.worm size:371TB to terminal URS_325701b. . .]
IT WILL NOT SAVE YOU.
[locking doors to office URS_325701. . .]
NOTHING WILL SAVE YOU.
[file transfer :: complete]
WE ARE ABOVE YOUR "LAW".
#persephone watches#lancer nhp#lancerrpg#lancer#oc rp blog#lancer ttrpg#lancer rpg#lancer rp#oc rp#in recent news: a greywash bomb detonated within a Union Revenue Service office building#information on the attack is limited but there are currently no confirmed casualties#multiple Revenue Service agents have been reported missing since the attack#the attack was thankfully limited to a block of offices#avoiding highly populated areas of the building#unfortunately a set of servers containing tax information where also completely destroyed#if you have any information on this attack please contact a union offical
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something i needed to hear when i was younger, and depending on the pockets of the internet and the kinds of real life people you're around some people probably still need to hear it. ultimately, using a label is for you. you don't have to know for sure if you're a lesbian, or bisexual, or pansexual, or asexual, or something else. you're allowed to just say you're whatever label is helpful for you at the time to explain to people so they're understanding, or help yourself find community with people who can connect with you about shared experiences. some people use queer because it's an umbrella term and they don't need to explain the specific nuances of which labels apply to them, and they can use the broad queer label to just find other people with roughly similar experiences. some people use gay as an umbrella term for similar reasons. some people use ace and asexual as umbrella terms because they're demisexual or demiromantic and trying to find anyone who's going to somewhat relate to what they're going through.
maybe you have NO IDEA what label fits you! you're still figuring yourself out. you're allowed to try to connect to various communities to see where you relate, what shared experience or aid you find. (and this applies broader too: labels like your favorite fashion, the music you like, the hobbies you have, sometimes you like something no one in 100 miles specifically made a group for but your hobby might fall under a bigger umbrella you CAN relate to - like liking X specific board game might find ppl who relate at a bigger tabletop game convention, or a person into costumes could go to a Anime/Video Game Convention and relate at least a bit with cosplayers). you're allowed to CHANGE. First, just to change as you grow. You will be a different person over time in some ways, that's just how life works. You're allowed to change the way you label yourself. Second, you're allowed to not be sure the labels you use for yourself fits, to try out ones until you see which fits (as in - which labels help you connect to people who understand what you feel/like/are), and allowed to change labels if they stop fitting.
and finally: you are allowed to NOT tell people your label. If you label yourself, it is to make your own life easier - to help others like you find you, to help find people like you, to build community. strangers who may hurt you have NO right to your label. you don't have to tell them shit. you are allowed to lie. You're allowed to not tell your parent your sexuality, if you're afraid they'll throw you out of the house or harm you. You're allowed to not tell your work your sexuality. You're allowed to not tell strangers, in person or online, whenever you feel you do not want to share how you identify. (And again this can apply to more than sexuality: if you're goth and in a school with uniforms scared people will bully you if you bring up you're goth, you're allowed to not tell them - although sometimes teenagers find joy in declaring who they are including around people who would not respect it, so if you want to declare proudly what you like or who you are then go for it. You're allowed to not mention to your boss that you're trying for a kid, maybe you're worried they'd discriminate if they knew that, or pass you over for promotion, or would treat you different, or you just don't want to discuss your personal life at work. Maybe you're into kink and you just don't want to mention that to work friends, because you dislike discussing sex related things with work friends, and maybe you only want to tell them if they become a friend that goes to bars with you. Maybe you love drawing furry art, or getting furry art commissioned, and you love discussing it at conventions where you can meet other furries and tell artists how talented they are and buy some of their art, but you don't want to mention that to grandma and explain what furry is. You're ALLOWED to decide if and when you share a label you relate with. You are still a good person if you refuse to come out to your school as gay, or if you don't mention online that you're trans, or if you don't want to discuss trying for kids at work. My point is just: labels are for YOU to feel safer, to find connection with others who may relate to the label. They aren't necessarily things you have to be honest about, and perfectly sure about, to be moral. You're allowed to lie and omit to protect your safety. You're allowed to change your mind, or be unsure which label fits best.
#rant#the confidence you're seeking with labels... sometimes doesn't come until years of exploring yourself#...........................................................................................................................................#also the safety thing. people in general are allowed to lie for safety. idk what else to tell you#like if you're on 4chan and you're black or gay or trans you're allowed to just not mention that shit while you look for whatever you're#looking for. hell on tumblr it may be safer if ur a trans girl to not mention it to avoid the ceo#on the other hand you might choose to mention ur trans to find community with other trans people on tumblr#both are valid choices!#if you're super into unions ur allowed to not mention that shit to ur boss until you've already done the work of putting together a union#(at which point u cant really hide that ur in a union now)#if youre trying for a kid u cant hide the baby bump (probably) but u are allowed to control when you reveal the information to coworkers an
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two common talking points about non-voting from the left:
1. depriving the Democrats of your vote will show that you will not empower genocide and punish them for doing so
2. the Democrats will not be affected if the Republicans win power because they are the same class
does anyone else see a contradiction in terms here?
#as for the “it is easier to organize under a more extreme government” folks#fair point but whose lives are you gambljng by adopting that strategy?#and if you are saying “well the democrats are coercing consent by running against the Republicans”#see post. they don't give a shit about ethics. they just want to be better than the other guys.#all power manufactures and coerced consent#from the commander in chief to your boss#that doesn't mean that choosing not to interact with it is a good idea#we CANNOT avoid interacting with power systems under this political paradigm#so you might as well not shut down the avenues of power you got#vote for whoever makes your life better#in short#eat their pizza and form a union anyway
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I graduated physical therapy today! I took a month break while I was getting back to work and today was my scheduled progress day. All of my leg strength tests were normal except for one, which honestly that one has been fucked for years, it has nothing to do with the wheelchair. I'm clear to start walking as I can! I'm really happy, it's been a lot of work to avoid deconditioning with five months of wheelchair usage and losing consciousness if my heart rate goes over 70.
#and now I'm day time high words are hard#partner worked from midnight to six am after a 13 hour shift so they're passed out on the couch with me#and I'm avoiding cleaning or medical bills or eating or anything except phone#oh man and union stuff. so much union stuff.#bc i don't wannnnnnnaaaaaaaa
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#not just for Canadians#avoiding Amazon as much as possible is a good thing wherever you are#(also they are anti-union as they closed ALL the warehouses in my province because one managed to unionize)#(while Amazon warehouse jobs are notoriously crappy it’s still a bunch of people who lost their jobs#not to mention the subcontractors who are affected by this meaning more people will lose their jobs)#so FU Amazon#sorry if this is getting political
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The only good part about watching a parent work themself to death as an adolescent, is now when I get sick and have the urge to push through it and go to work, I can tell myself "dont let them do to you what theyve done to mom"
and wow actually i will call in sick for 3 days and get high and sleep and rest till I feel better actually
#karma talks#just gotta have my inner 13 year old yell at me about how it sucked watching my mom drained from her job#then i gotta have Chilchuck remind me im in a union and my contract allows me 3 sick days as one attendance deduction#and i have hella sick time available to get paid for staying home so. like. why would i go to work?#plus if i get more sick and have to call oit next week durring Thanksgiving itll affect my holiday pay so like#i gotta avoid that
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my two common character types that i enjoy writing or roleplaying are "earnest naive idiot" (Imry) and "angry hot mess" (Keten) and sometimes the unholy union of the two (Tekla) but every now and then i get hit with the "shitty obnoxious asshole" beam and god,
it's so fun to write this piece of shit antagonizing people
#enzel.txt#looked at two people having relationship problems and went 'you guys could fix this by fucking me' and it WORKED#6'7" unholy union of thancred waters and dante dmc but Worse#bit of a slut. thinks everyone's problems are his business. narrowly avoided a villain arc by being too obsessed with his husband.#ego of a booktok dom (im sorry)#now i need to make up a story to put him in#helix (oc)
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Really enjoyed how the Lookback Diaries went from skirting around and dropping hits about the Kickstarter to just. 'Fuck Bernie Su'
#lizzie bennet diaries#Lookback Diaries#it's crazy all these things that went on behind the scenes#like i just. had no idea it was this messy#i assumed they probably didn't get paid enough etc but the way that BS completely fucked everyone over#AND himself because people totally would have given good money for an LBD movie#it's crazy#i always assumed pemberley just died out because they ran out of money NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE AVOIDING UNIONS#will always have to mourn the fact that we almost could have gotten another series >:(
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my friend put together a group of people interested in forming a housing co-op and we had our first meeting today!! and wow, we definitely have the connections and know-how and expertise in this group to make it happen :D
what this means concretely is that we are going to wrestle with the federal and provincial and municipal governments for the next decade to get funding and permits and such. but like, there's a very solid chance we will get a building to live in by the end :)
#we have to have 75 apartments to get federal funding and buildings in our neighborhood are not that big so we gotta build one#but yeah there are several potential lots in the neighborhood that the city could acquire and give us#and the current administration really wants to take credit for social housing without doing any work so. we can take advantage of this#one of the people in the group works at the neighborhood tenant's union so she was the one explaining everything to the rest of us#also everyone in the group was on the same page in terms of values and goals#like community anticapitalism accessibility etc.#and also making sure conflict resolution mechanisms are in place and that it's as democratic as possible#also one guy brought up the need to make sure this doesn't become a cult and y'know what valid concern#like a co op isn't necessarily that far off from a commune so. setting out to avoid such pitfalls from the outset seems like a good call lol
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still believe that the funniest most incorrect thing i got wrong about disco elysium before playing it was thinking that jean was the union leader. that he was evrart claire (or edgar claire). or alternatively that he worked in the post office or something.
#i avoided reading anything about the game for like four years because i didn't want to spoil it for myself#and i did a great job at it i guess because i literally had no idea the game was about investigating a murder like wow that was a plot twis#anyway#the mental process behind it was:#i saw jean in the gomf video and he looked like a post office director so i kinda accepted that he must have been that#but when i started playing the game i noticed there was a suspicious lack of post offices#on the other hand there was a big talk about the union leader and since i had seen that bitch of jean a lot i thought#he must be relevant so it must be this main guy from the investigation#but then i met evrart and i was like so maybe he is the second most relevant union man?#then i met jean and couldn't stand him and didn't speak to him through the game <3#the end#he would be better as a post office director anyway#it's personal tag again
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hi help how do i explain to my boss that working at registers/self checkouts makes me want to die without sounding like an insane person. they want to train me in that department and i cannot afford to sacrifice that much of my mental health for....14ish an hour.
#not joking im having an anxiety attack trying to figure out how to say no bc i have literally never said no when theyve asked to cross train#me before but i cant trust they will care if i register train and ask them not to schedule me there.#so i have to avoid being trained at register at all#not what i was hired for and not in the job description for stock clerk and im union#but what if they get mad at me :(#newt needs a text post tag
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you can tell im poor cos i got so fucking tired of my banks low balance alerts (default amount was $25 i think?) that i set the limit to fucking $0.01. cos i already know its always low. cos im poor
#.pdf#rd#i really want to switch to a bank that doesnt have a monthly service fee cos i dont get paid via direct deposit so i cant avoid it#(not that ive been well enough to work lately anyway)#and the 12 dollars a month really just feels like theyre kicking me while im down. cos you only get charged if your balance is low enough#in other words the people who need that money the most 👍#idk. there are so many banks and credit unions that wouldnt charge me a fee. but my mother would be upset if i closed this account#bc it was opened while i was in high school and she has access. so she wpuld no longer be able to see everything i spend money on. lol#never mind the fact that im 22 years old and dont even live with her anymore. fucking god
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I’m the union rep at work now . Mixed feelings 💋
#yay union and collective bargaining. yet some of our faculty are insane and I wish to avoid them#but my advisor is on the edge of faculty problems and doesn’t care about anything going on so I figure out of the students I’m the#one with the least to lose if people get mad
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