Hello, I am asking to you because you are the blog I follow who watch the most BL so maybe you know about this but what happened to war of y ? I completely forgot this show but then remembered that it must still be airing as it has 20 episodes but when I went to the tag, it was only gifs from Billyseng episodes that aired months ago. Nobody new was talking about it, it looks like it was totally forgotten and nobody watch it and I mean it can’t be, I know there has been others BL that blew up in between but for the actors, people must have stick around and there are far worse BL that still had an audience until the end. I tried to do my research but I found nothing so I thought maybe you knew more ?
I'm still watching it and still seeing posts about it so... I dunno, anon, probably tumblr tags being weird?
It's definitely gotten a lot quieter since that first set, though. And there are a lot of reasons for that including why a lot of people have dropped it and I can definitely discuss that. But I have been steadily making posts about it the whole time and have talked about why the show isn't what people want but anyway....
So, problem number 1: It's a show about all the issues in filming and creating BLs and about why the shows and the fandom and the creation is hurting people, actors and creators. So it's literally about why the thing we're watching and enjoying is bad and is hurting people and it creating drama and pain in others. Which is not super appealing to watch overall especially when it comes with a mixed bad of very superficial messages about those issues.
Problem number 2: The message is very muddy. Every set of five episodes tries to tackle so many issues and so many things that nothing is ever clear or deep. It's all very surface level. 'Reality shows make people bad!' 'Too much ambition hurts people!' 'Sexual abuse is bad!' And, yes, they're all true and they're important but that doesn't exactly make for good TV. It often feels like a PSA inside a show.
Problem number 3: Most of the endings are open rather than happy. I'd say that the latest one gave us the most genuinely happy ending of the three so far because the other two ended with the possibility of happiness but not with the reality of happiness and that's not what most people are seeking out when they want to watch BL.
Problem number 4: Cheewin has a very distinct style and War of Y feels like his ultimate baby and he is using it to show off his style and that style can be off-putting. I've mentioned this a few times in other posts but I find War of Y most enjoyable when I watch it was detachment rather than enjoying the characters and that's... that's very Cheewin. Getting attached to characters in War of Y is hard because the show is basically about everyone, at the core, being a bad person in some way because of the situation they're in.
Problem number 5: The show picks the worst issues to highlight instead of the more interesting ones. Like, Y-Idol was basically about how reality shows make people bad people which... no duh? But it had the potential to be about accepting yourself as a feminine gay man despite having shaped yourself into a masculine straight man to please your father and they touched on that but refused to explore it more and it's a problem when the issues they gloss over are more interesting than the ones they focus on.
So.
There you are, anon! What I think the biggest problems with War of Y are. I will continue watching and making at least some commentary on it as we approach the final five episodes and the last story arc of cheating and drama. But I have been following along the entire time and I know I'm not the only one. Though I know there aren't as many as there were at the start.
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forgive the brief jesus chris superstar rant but. there is a very important difference between the pharisees being villains and the pharisees being antagonists. they're technically antagonists because they're actively working against the interests of our protagonist, but i don't believe they should ever be played as villains. they're not evil or bad or wrong. they're terrified just like literally everyone else in the show is, and their actions are completely justified. to me that's the entire point of the musical. it's not about christianity; it's about the impact the roman empire's brutal and violent imperialism had on everyone on all levels. including jesus and judas, but also including the pharisees, and even herod and pilate. when a powerful coloniser forces their presence on innocent people they are the only winners. everyone else suffers, even the puppet kings and high priests who look like they're reaping some sort of benefit from it all. that's roman propaganda. the romans kept native rulers like herod and caiaphas in power to maintain the illusion of provincial autonomy, and keep populations appeased and therefore under control. everyone in the show is acting out of fear of the romans. the one roman character we do see (pilate) is acting out of fear of his own emperor. it makes no sense to cast the pharisees as two dimensional Bad Guys, especially when the same productions that do that usually offer a sympathetic portrayal of pilate. it would be so easy to stage and direct a production in a way that makes it obvious that the pharisees are doing what they're doing because they truly have no choice, and not because they're pure evil and want to kill jesus for the sake of it. it's not only an antisemitic trope but also undermines a really important theme of the musical. if you can see the humanity in the violent roman governor installed forcefully on conquered land then you can afford some humanity for the pharisees too. they are victims of pilate and victims of rome just like everyone else
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haha oh no im definitely not at all disturbed by the prevalence of leftists on all platforms who are loudly 'anti-genocide' when it comes to the palestinian cause (and a couple others at best :3c) yet the only time ukraine [ʊkrɐˈjinɐ] leaves their mouths is in critique, in stark comparison to the former or in complaint about their (american) government sending aid.
at first what i saw often was pointing out the differences in western media framing [ukraine vs palestine], and that's fair (until the words and the agenda of western journalists are used to paint, as a whole, ukrainians who have been actively going through genocide as some kind of white supremacists hogging the blanket of global attention when they kinda just want to live and have the rights to their own land, culture, names and families)
but no one is even caring to do that anymore, today bitches just invent metaphorical scenarios and people to get mad at and to throw an entire ethnos away because wahhhh i decided that you care for X but not for Y!!!.... all while doing the exact thing they are condemning. the exact absolute same and they don't even hide it but do lack the self-awareness to realise
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so i haven't seen that much of bts footage of the sign cast but i just love the vibe the sign and pit babe's casts have.
for the sign, you can clearly see that billy and babe are comfortable with each other's company (and that billy is hopelessly in love with babe but that's neither here nor there)
the pit babe's cast is just one big polycule chaos and i'm here for it. they have their legally assigned partners but that's not going to stop them from hoeing around with absolutely everybody in the cast. pavel and pooh are sticking together the most but that's expected bc they're the main couple. but also it's not going to stop pavel to smooch benz... muscle memory or whatever (also let's be real benz is smooching everybody as if it's a competition. understandable. he's winning)
they're all adults - just a bunch of very pretty men in their late twenties (not you pooh, you're a baby) and you can see it in the way they act around each other. they're not inexperience kids (industry or life-wise) and they know each other's boundaries.
idk where i'm going with this but it's actually entertaining to see them together, flirting and frolicking with absolutely everybody and not being tied up to their partner, scared to just look at a cast member who's not playing their on-screen partner. it's stress-free. they're living their best life in the company of other attractive men whom they can smooch for money. life goal tbh
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