#vna

[pl9090]

The Nine Gallifreys, My Interpretation. As always constructive criticism is welcome. Thanks go to both Marnal Gate and the Canonwelding section of the Dr Who Discord for: inspiring, helping me develop, and stress test this.

The Nine Gallifrey's concept is one of the most interesting and confusing ideas that emerged during the Wilderness Years. This is not intended to be the definitive answer rather a canonwelding enabling one that fits all of the available information. A, (crude) visual version of this information will be posted later which will hopefully make this easier to understand, (I'sd like to get this drawn up as a proper infographic series eventually but it;s beyond my ability).

Dating convention: War relative time is used in .B.T.W./.D.T.W. format instead of -.W.R.T./.W.R.T. for ease of understanding. Ardethe is not currently counted as it's a ghost world that used to be/resembles? Gallifrey. Clarity on this would be most welcome. Add Flaxian 14th note here once found wiki article.

Gallifreys 1 War King 2 Romana II 3 Flexian III 4 ? 5 ? 6 Ruling Council. 7 Faction Elysian. Starts at some point between 48,000.B.C. and 0.A.D.. 8 ? 9 Celestial Preservation Authority. 10 ? 11 ? 12 ? BF Big Finish.

Timeline 150.B.T.W. to 95.B.T.W. The Primary cloneworlds are completed and unveiled, (.F.P. The Book of the War). The Primary cloneworlds created their own eight secondary cloneworlds, (.E.D.A. Ancestor Cell and .F.P. The Book of the War). 1 secretly swaps it's physical location with 2, (.F.P. Book of the War/Crimes against History and Speculation). 9 establishes itself as a museum and technology/cache, (.E.D.A. The Taking of Planet 5 and .B.F. Omega). BF somehow coexists in the same time and place as 2, (.B.F. Neverland onwards).

.O.B.T.W./Eve of the War/After Last Contact 4 and it's secondary cloneworlds are destroyed by 1 or 2 to prevent Varnax controlling them, (.E.D.A. The Gallifrey Chronicles). 10 is created by 1 to compensate for the loss of 4, (Speculation). 5 ruined by the Cybermen, (Web/.B.F. Real Time). 2's secondary cloneworlds are unwritten by Mother Mathara's/Alt 8th Doctor's Faction Paradox cell, (.E.D.A. Ancestor Cell). 2 is destroyed by the 8th Doctor, (.E.D.A. The Ancestor Cell). 1 defeats an all out Enemy attack but high end technology is erased from it’s noosphere, (.F.P. The Book of the War). BF somehow remains out of the war despite being in Kasterborous, (.B.F. audios).

Around the Battle of Mutter's Cluster 9 and it’s secondary cloneworlds are destroyed by the Enemy to prevent any of the others from utilising their high technology cache, (Speculation). Afterwards the remaining Gallifreys unite with 1 as the coordinater, (.F.P. The Book of the War). 11 is created by 1 to compensate for the loss of 5 or 9, (Speculation).

After the Battle of Delphon to the conflict's, "end" (Depends on when .E.D.A. The Taking of Planet occurs). All nine Gallifreys and there cloneworlds were destroyed by the end of the War. (.E.D.A. The Adventuress of Henrietta Street) 12 is created by 1 to compensate for the loss of 9, (Speculation). 1 is maybe destroyed soon after to explain why no Primary cloneworld is created to compensate for the later loss of 8, (Speculation). Primaries: 1,3,10,11, and 12 are destroyed. 6 and 7 are ruined, (Speculation) Secondaries: Those of: 3,5,6,7, and 8 are destroyed, (Speculation).

Afterwards/NuWho 7 becomes New Alexandria Colony. 8 becomes Winkle's Wonderland and is destroyed by Grandfather's Maw. BF is ruined repeatedly then goes onto fight The Third & Last Great Time War. The ruined: 5,7, and 8 are all destroyed by the Gradfather's Maw around 60,000,000,0000. Somepoint after BF creates 8 Secondaries one of which is Cyberrazed by the Master, (.T.V. The Timeless Children). (Must have been a cloneworld as the protocols held and all linear domains survived suggested by Mr Bucher Jones: https://archive.ph/wyW8F).

Destruction count Enemy: 7 Primaries destroyed 2 ruined. 48 Secondaries destroyed. Gallifrey 1 or 2: 1 Primary destroyed. 8 Secondaries destroyed. 8th Doctor: 1 Primary destroyed and recreated from a combination of the saved Matrix and his: thoughts/feelings/prejudices. Grandfather's Maw: 3 Primaries destroyed. Faction Paradox: 8 Secondaries destroyed. Cybermen: 1 Primary ruined.

The Big Finish Gallifrey Problem The three main issues are: 1.Both 2 and BF exist and are location overlapped for at least the better part of two centuries. 2.BF is somehow seperated from the conflict. 3.There has to be a Gallifrey to fight The Third & Last Great Time War despite all of the Gallifreys being destroyed by the end of the conflict, (.E.D.A. The Adventuress of Henrietta Street). Possible answer: The Eighth Doctor rebuilt a Gallifrey from scratch using the Matrix data corrupted by his own thoughts and feelings, (eg: Mr Parkin's theory of why it's Romana II not III) which included a new temporary Law of Time that isolated it's casual nexus and disconnected it from the Protocols of Linearity, peresumeably as a defence mechanism. However this combined him placing it in pre War era Kasterborous, (maybe around 3652?) as a result of him still not thinking clearly/fully and the multi continuity mess that is his timeline caused 2 to be gradually oxbowed until it's destruction which was a fixed point in time effectively placing .B.F. from that point on in the post War era and experiencing their own seperate version of the Arckhetryx Incident, (It happened twice in the same spacetime location )

Notes 9 and it's secondary cloneworlds have to be destroyed after the failed attack on 1 otherwise erasing the high level tech knowledge from 1's noosphere is pointless. The Battle of Delphon is placed after The Battle of Muster's Cluster. 10, 11, and 12 existed as military bases: loomstacks, chronoforges, and training academies. As NuWho Doctor seems to think he's from BF rather then 1 maybe the Tardis quietly rewrites his biodata ao that he is from whichever Gallifrey is in Kasterborous at the time. The fact .B.F. is partially shaped by the Eighth Doctor's thoughts and feelings has some disturbing yet interesting connotations. That just leaves their starting temporal locations to figure out, but that will be a another post.

[someotherthingsanstuff]

Doctor who in 28mm is my highly unimaginatively named project to paint every doctor and companion in miniature. So here it is the big archive of links:

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The Doctors

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The Companions -------------------

Barbara Wright

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/749029032962785280/doctor-who-in-28mm

Susan Forman

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/755466768956456960/grandfather-susan-forman-in-28mm-a-bit-ofa-hard

Leela of the Sevateem.

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/757444797657235456/leela-of-the-sevateem

K9

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/755466773967618048/doctor-who-in-28mm-k9

Romanadvoratrelundar I

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/757082192141795328/i-may-be-inexperienced-but-i-did-graduate-from

Romanadvoratrelundar II

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/748475545377964032/doctor-who-in-28mm-romanadvoratrelundar-ii

Dorothy Ace

https://www.tumblr.com/someotherthingsanstuff/759618952985968640/who-are-you-calling-small

Amelia "Amy" Pond

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/748656782279311360/doctor-who-in-28mm-amy-pond

------------ The Companions of the EU ------------

Abslom Draak

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/748566088855535616/doctor-who-in-28mm-abslom-daak

Frobisher

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/757172790105391104/the-names-frobisher-pi-frobisher-you-need-to

Virgin New Adventures "New Ace"

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/748747306358161408/doctor-who-in-28mm-the-first-proxy-mini-the

Charlotte “Charley” Elspeth Pollard

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/757263529908862976/charlotte-charley-elspeth-pollard

Cinder

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Wives of Doctor who

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Marilyn Monroe

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/757354170780123136/guys-weve-really-got-to-go-quite-quickly-i

-------- Other people -------- Lady Louisa Pollard

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Villains

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the Villain list -------------- The Dalek Dungon The Master list The Cyberman Central A Dalek

https://www.tumblr.com/someotherthingsanstuff/750831261323591680/a-dalek-an-oddly-wonky-one-as-the-mold

The Delgado Master

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/756991552083099648/i-am-usually-referred-to-as-the-master

The Special Weapons Dalek

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/750740454672384000/doctor-who-in-28mm-the-special-weapons-dalek

The Saxon Master

https://someotherthingsanstuff.tumblr.com/post/751667200084033536/laser-screwdriver-whod-have-sonic

Just where did i get x mini?

[vikingschism]

Continuing my readthrough of the Doctor Who Virgin New Adventures I finished reading The Death of Art by Simon Bucher-Jones the other day. Set in Paris in the late 19th century, the TARDIS crew are trying to avert some catastrophe that is due to happen (which will destroy history, naturally) and The Doctor thinks psychic powers might have something to do with it.

Not going to bury the lede on this one, it was a bit of a confusing mess. By the end it resolved itself into a fairly clear story, but along the way I was constantly unsure what was going on. The experience of reading it was almost dreamlike in a sense; scenes would shift with little to no connection and characters come in and out of prominence with no fanfare. I don't think this was fully intentional however, and it made the book very slow to read.

The concept behind the aliens in this story was cool, however it didn't help with the confusion as there was a lot of jargon introduced very quickly. Again, later on this became more obvious when it was clear what they actually were, but the first few scenes appear so unconnected to the other scenes going on that it's hard to latch on to them. I think that a concept like this could only really be done in a book if executed like it was here - it would definitely be hard to do in a visual medium.

The Doctor and crew were fine here, Chris gets a fun plotline where he has to infiltrate the Parisian police, and ends up needing to pretend to be The Doctor. The Doctor has his fingers in many pies and gets to engage in a bit of scheming. Roz, meanwhile, seems to get the short end of the stick and doesn't get a ton to do. There is some insight on her past though which is interesting. The other supporting characters and villains aren't too interesting overall.

The book does bring back The Shadow Directory from Christmas on a Rational Planet, however they don't seem to do all that much here. The callback does make sense at least seeing as the book is set in Paris.

The next book in the series is Damaged Goods by Russel T Davies, and I'm already halfway through. It's a good one. Expect a review for that one soon.

[geronimomo-spd]

listen i do not know much about Lungbarrow, but jesus christ is the idea of Otherstide as a Galiffrayen festival the Doctor celebrated, and probably had little to no feelings about, is fucking hilerios

its like celebrating Christmas, not caring much about it, only to discover you are the reincarnation of Jesus himself

[creaticlesion]

Traditional doodles of Norman, Minerva and Nimbie!! Minerva and Nimbie are dressed in silly witch outfits but with completely different themes in mind.

+ silly doodle of hexlynn

[grits-galraisedinthesouth]

The Princess of Wales & 3 uplifting events

[lovelyhexerei]

As they drew nearer and nearer, the music got louder and louder. Only the bass escaped the big doors, the very doors Minerva braced both hands against and quickly pushed. They swung open and Nimbie was first struck by the music. The sounds of 2043 hit them with force. Synth techno radiated from every direction and the air shook with the beat. Inside, hundreds of costumed personnel danced into the night. Lasers and strobes bounced across the high ceiling of the great hall and on the very far end atop a stage was a teched out dj, their cybernetics glinted in the strobe light. It was a future-rave.

[verloonati]

Sky pirates is fucking wild y'all I don't know if I'm glad this book exists or if I hate it with passion. I am experiencing something and not quite sure what

[st4rshiptr00per]

wolsey tiem

[pl9090]

I might be the Henry Jones Senior of at least the Faction Paradox fandom. My computer notes are even more of a mess.

[the-worms-in-your-bones]

I’ve had a vision

[melbush]

90s doctor who is just writers getting giddy because they’ve been let off the reins from the bbc. acting like they’ve got the nucleur launch codes because they can make Dr Who gayer and fucked up

[shuaver]

　　　　　˖ ﾟ✩　 but i could wonder　 ☾ ﾟ⋆

[creaticlesion]

Hexlynn tearing into a costco rotisserie chicken with his bare hands

[lovelyhexerei]

VNA brainrot: The foreshadowing I have laid out is positively nuts. I'm so excited to write more and connect the dots, slowly piecing together the framework of this wacky silly story.

[daydreamycrustacean]

Fanart of Timewyrm: Revelation by Paul Cornell that I started months ago and that then I burned out hard while rendering them. (there are other two more, but one I really don´t like how it came out and the other is just a sketch, so...)

I feel bad for not finishing them when I worked so hard on the lines, but I still can´t muster up enough energy to do it, so I might as well post them like this....

Context:

"The Hanged Man. Wicked." Because it was the Doctor, hands fumbling with his umbrella as he hung from one leg, trying to reach upwards. She turned the card over. The picture on the other side was labelled "The Traveller" and pictured the Doctor waving a spotted handkerchief to some tiny hut in the distance. In front of the hut stood people, or were they? No matter how hard Ace looked, they remained vague.

Another card in the pack was "We Are Friends To The Ugly/We War With The Beautiful". This gave Ace a moment's pause, because she was the Doctor's friend, wasn't she? Or used to be. But the card showed the Time Lord embracing a many-tentacled monster and confronting a calm humanoid, so she thought she saw the point. "Ka Farag Gatri - Bringer Of Darkness/Destroyer Of Worlds" showed on one side a black and white raven hovering over a crystalline city, on the other the Doctor hanging his head in shame. She got that one, that was guilt at destroying the Dalek homeworld of Skaro. Only the Doctor could feel sad about those scumbags.

The last card that she found surprised her. It said simply "Ace" and was the same on both sides, a mirror. Yeah. That was cool."