#watching fatws

[kayvsdoodles]

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[faeriecap]

what the hell is this???? did marvel authorize this bullshit??

[kayvsworld]

everything i learn abt infinity war and engame makes me feel like i am actively hallucinating

[bisexualbuckleyy]

it’s so funny to me that zemo is all like “i don’t suppose either of you bothered visiting the memorial?” to bucky and sam like bestie neither of them were even there they had literally nothing to do with that

[itwasthereaminuteago]

Bucky trying to keep a straight face in public when you send him a video of fooling around with Matt in bed~

ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

CAN YOU IMAGINE THE CONSEQUENCES? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WHEN HE GOT HOME AND- AND-

💀 🔥

"Thought you wouldn't mind..."

"Think again."

[eggbreadboi]

srry this is in reference to your tags on an old reblog of a post but i just wanna say like yes i agree so much!!, bucky barnes & steve rogers' stories and rife with trauma at the hands of being exploited by state(government) powers and (serious) writers simply CAN'T write a good story about Bucky and/or Steve without veering into deeply anti-American politics (ESP bc the story blatantly uses analogies of real life USA human rights abuses!)

too bad pretty much all of the marvel franchise in films tv anim/LA print etc can't ever actual commit to the inextricable politics of the story and try to have their cake & eat it too and p much every story circles back to "ooh we luv cap'n murica and his shield is the symbol of all goodness ooh 🇺🇸", and as such, Bucky and Steve's stories never get the actual exploration they deserve, because their too intertwined with being surveilled/exploited/experimented/incarcerated/monitored by the state and the marvel franchise can't commit to the politics of what that means

i mean... obvs the war stuff and human experimentation and torture and slavery are much worse abuses in the grand scheme of things, but writing this made me think of the D+ show scene where they literally have Bucky be monitored by the carceral state and have his autonomy denied in ways that is textually identical to how the real life US prison system abuses people... and yet it's framed as "bucky deserves it" unlike the good military man who's being inconvenience by this POW who was experimented on by Nazis hired by the military apparatus he works for. the D+ show acts as if the carceral state is benevolently "keeping Bucky in check".. like that's such an authoritarian & fascist & specifically American stance to take WRT the US prison system. all bc marvel can't stomach portraying the government's human right's abuses as abuses within their works. the franchise keeps circling back to defending the agents of the state and only giving grace when characters act as agents of the state and treating noncompliance/resistance to the state as character flaws to be grown out of at best

Ok first of all I am HONORED to get such a thoughtful and long response, I really appreciate the dialogue.

Here are more thoughts:

Marvel, as a whole, *wants* to tackle American imperialism, especially in the recent Captain America releases. This is a partially inescapable consequence of the original comics, which did quite a lot to critique the American system(ie. making Cap himself a fairly outspoken socialist), and partially just a result of recent social shifts. However, in the MCU mores than in the comics, this falls flat for a couple of reasons:

The Avengers, are, when you cut to the bone, an American paramilitary group, in the MCU (I would argue this is not as true in the comics, though it is less applicable.) therefore, any critique of the system critiques the very existence of the Avengers, and by virtue of yk.....storytelling and needing them to exist, the MCU cannot delve too far into that critique, lest its portrayal of the Avengers veer closer to the portrayal of The Seven and other villainous "hero" groups. The Avengers must be the heroes, and therefore the system that put them into power cannot be completely unjust.

The MCU resolves this by writing stories that emphasize WHO is in charge, not the system that gives them power. SHIELD is a threat BECAUSE it is led by Pierce after Fury's death.

Falcon and the Winter Soldier runs into this cognitive dissonance, HARD. In essence, because the villains are right. Not morally, ofc, but ultimately, the Flag Smashers, putting aside the murder, are working for the good of people, and the establishment is not. However, the establishment cannot be seen as the source of the rot, so:

In FA:TWS, Captain America is a threat, not because the concept of one man having so much authority is deeply horrifying, but because the man in the mask is Walker, not Rogers. An unworthy king cheating a just system, who must be replaced by the rightful heir.

Steve and Sam are good captains, and so is what they represent, because the values of the system are defined not by the system itself but by the symbol at the helm. ....Its an easy cop-out. "Sure, the results of the system aren't good" Marvel says. "But don't think about the system itself. If we have the right symbol at the helm, if you're responsible enough, compliant enough(don't get captured and brainwashed by nazis), everything will magically right itself"

In short: Helmut Zemo is right, and not just right, but illustrates the issue at the heart of Avengers stories beautifully. He's a refugee from a small, economically disadvantaged (putting Sokovia somewhere between Latvia: 2021 GDP of 39.85 Billion USD and Serbia: 2021 GDP of 63 Billion USD to the US's 23,315.08 Billion USD in 2021), war-torn country, that is completely destroyed by the actions of a United States paramilitary organization. His entire ideology boils down to "Supremacy is wrong, military interventionism is wrong". And because his ideology threatens the entire foundation of the MCU, the conversation HAS to stop at "he killed people, so he's wrong". The same applies to Karli. (and OFC murder is wrong, but we're talking their baseline ideologies) Marvel's storytelling falls flat because when the audience asks why these people did what they did, the writers can only shrug their shoulders and say "I guess they weren't good enough to believe in symbols"

Symbols don't feed families, and they don't repair wartorn land. Reparations do<3

[thatwitchrevan]

It's not even just that I like Cloak and Dagger because I do or that it has better characterization than most of the MCU franchise put together because it does but honestly FATWS could lose against absolutely anything in the canon, it could be knocked over by the lightest breeze, it is such an utter waste of a show that She Hulk probably beats it in some way but I refuse to watch to find out. Putting it against Cloak and Dagger literally should be absolute murder and yet.

[bedlamsbard]

CATWS really does become retroactively a worse movie, not through any fault of its own, but because the MCU systematically blew up every single thing in it, only occasionally literally.  I can’t think of a single element introduced or established in CATWS that didn’t get torched by the MCU somewhere down the line, up to and including whether Nick Fury still has an eyeball.

[florida3exclamationpoints]

Very funny to me that Bucky never really liked Sharon 💀💀💀

[quibbs126]

So out of pure curiosity, where exactly do we rank each of the MCU Disney Plus shows?

Like what’s the general consensus? Which is considered the worst, and more importantly, the best?

[that-sokovian-bastard]

My very quick she hulk review:

I did in fact stay up until 2:40 am watching all of she hulk. I enjoyed it! Definitely a little different. I understand the cgi complaints but it wasn’t bad enough for me to bitch. I also 110% understand why the incels hate it, but I think that’s kinda the point.

totally on board with matt and jen. I hope she’ll get a lil cameo in the daredevil show :D also I LOVE Renee Elise Goldsberry and I am so happy with how much she was in this. Her hair and outfits were killer.

my favorite line was “we’re hulks, we smash things. Bruce smashes buildings, I smash fourth walls and bad endings. And sometimes Matt Murdock 🤙🏻”

[faeriecap]

SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE NAMES OF BUCKYS OTHER TWO SIBLINGS DID MCU FORGET ABOUT THEM OR ARE THEY DEAD I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF THEY JUST GENUINELY FORGOT CONSIDERING THEY WROTE THEM INTO ONE LINE IN THE SMITHSONIAN VOICE OVER IN CATWS AND BUCKYS SERIAL NUMBER IN CAFTA INVALIDATES THE SAME VOICE OVERS CLAIM THAT JAMES BARNES ENLISTED IN 1941 AND ALSO THAT THE IMAGINEERS LITERALLY GOT THE LIST OF STEVES MEDICAL AILMENTS WRONG LIKE THEYRE JUST FUCKING GOOGLING SHIT ON MARVEL WIKI AT THIS POINT

[kayvsworld]

my problem is that fatws was not actually that good and i have infinite issues with it However. i desperately need another season oh my god

[inconvenienceismylife]

Ryan… I think you missed the point of Bucky’s character

[whitesuited]

he’s already there waiting for her at the bottom of the stairs when she hits the final step outside of the met; his combination of jeans and a sweatshirt looking far more appealing right now than the cocktail dress she had to drag out of the very back of her closet earlier in the evening on short notice. she conveys as much with a jealous groan before actually saying hello --------- insisting the pair can walk and talk ( gossip is more like it, but she won’t outright call it that --- she had been attending for business, not pleasure ) about fisk’s little fundraising get together as they go now that there’s a break in the rain.

       “i hated these things then, and i hate them now.” @lostsouldier has his pick of what ‘these things’ could be ----- the ‘fundraiser’ that’s charity - washing a whole lot of money, the small talk she’d had to endure for the last few hours or the fact she’d had to stand there uncomfortably and grin and bear them both while balancing a drink in her hand and minding her tongue. ( the only reason she’d gotten so comfortable with it back in hightown was sheer repetition -------- that and her survival instinct running on high alert nonstop for more than half a decade. )

the reflections of traffic lights and neon scattered and diffused on the wet pavement is apparently one of those universal things, she notices as they walk along --------- they looks the same here as it did half a world away, and she has to go and catch herself mentally before she refers to that other place as home out of habit. two large raindrops landing square on her forehead interrupt her story about her conversation with one of fisk’s staff ( and the parsley stuck in his teeth ) eliciting an annoyed “shit,” from her as she glances up at the black - grey sky of manhattan and gets greeted with another handful of drops on her face for her trouble. “so much for being dry.”

he’s already proven to be just as stubborn as she is enough times for it not to come as a surprise that the moment the skies once again fully open up he’s fussing with his jacket in an attempt to keep her dry ---------- nor should it be one for him that she fully intends to spend the handful of blocks they still have to walk towards the subway station on 86th protesting the gesture and trying to convince him to put his coat back on. ( but she will at least concede to herself that the heels she’d chosen for the night were a poor choice ------ just another reason why she never wears them unless absolutely necessary. but barefoot on the subway is too far, even for her. )

when they reach the staircase and he still hasn’t left her side, arms outstretched over her head while she pauses to rummage through her bag for her metrocard, she debates darting back into the rain just to be difficult.

       “ ... you’re not planning on doing this the whole way back to my apartment, are you, barnes?”

[tnimreaps]

b u c k y 🥵

[Falcon and the Winter Soldier]

— 1x4; The World Is Watching —

i can’t be the only one who felt a type of way when he grabbed that glass from Zemo and threw it against the wall.

I don’t know ‘bout yall but I’d die for a Bucky X Reader fic where they get into an argument one night and Bucky throws the glass and it escalates from there into a night of hot, unbridled s*x 🥺