#aspec fizzarolli

[justanotherhh]

with fizz being word-of-god demi (and tbh i'd just read him that way regardless, but now they oughta make it show canon, thems the rules), thinking about whether he'd ever had sex before he met asmodeus, about how the first person he was in love with was blitzø and that clearly didn't work out, and also about him as disabled and also him as a sex object in hell, there's a lot to unpack

and then on the flipside, it seems so far as if asmodeus hasn't ever been in a romantic relationship prior to fizzarolli, and of course he does have casual sex, that's his whole job, but that's also interesting -- how does asmodeus relate to sexual attraction, when his job is about reading and reacting to others' sexual desires, and how that pertains to reading his relationship with fizzarolli as about building something more longterm that deconstructs both of the ways their public image as sexual ideals rely on what others can get from them (rather than what they feel and want)

essentially they're both in sex work or related to that work in some way, they both understand the world of desire and how to operate in that world, but their relationship to each other (romantic and sexual) is something brand new, it's something not defined by normative relationship structures (for that matter, a sin and an imp, as metaphor for all of this, is that something brand new as well?)

but yeah asmodeus is aspec too, in my mind, which i think would be just the kind of deconstruction of "the sin of lust" that would work in this kind of story. definitely somewhere on the aro side of things, fun to think about also from the ace perspective, and that's one of the (many) reasons he and fizz understand each other so well -- they're not coming at this with an innate "this is the way things are meant to be" set of ideas. there are no assumptions of who they're supposed to be when they're together (well, there are when they're in public, but once those have been challenged head-on and they come out of the closet in s2, so to speak...), so they get to build that brand new identity together in their own way

i just think that concept would be neat

[local-redhead-bookworm]

My aspec Helluva Boss headcanons, because I say so:

Asmodeus — allosexual arospec, probably demiromantic. He talks about sexual attraction and desire as something entirely separate from romantic attraction and love, and I think that’s very interesting. No fully allo person does that.

Fizzarolli — demi. I’ve seen numerous people say that Viv said something to the effect of “Fizzarolli has to form an emotional bond first,” but idk how true that is. It just feels right.

Striker — ace and VERY sex-repulsed. His visible disgust whenever someone starts being horny near him, also “SHUT UP! WHY IS IT ALWAYS A SEX THING?!” Edward Bosco seems to have a tendency to play sex-repulsed aces.

Octavia — aroace. She seems very blasé about relationships in general, and the one thing she’s most scared of is that her dad is going to abandon her for his new lover. I know she’s a child of divorce and the kind of abandonment issues that tends to create, but that just struck me as a very aroace fear to have.

[headcanon-central]

Fizzarolli Headcanons

Recipromantic

Polyromantic/Polysexual

Reciprosexual

Genderqueer

Ambiamorous

He/They/It

Autistic

PTSD

ADHD

Horn amputee

Arm amputee

Leg amputee

Italian/French

[egret-orchids]

HELLUVA BOSS S2-EP7 THOUGHTS

1- reinforces my aspec fizz headcanon

2- fuck you mammon

3- the sign language scene/s w that kid implies that imps ears are in fact their horns bc the kid has broken horns too

4- trans fizzarolli but. 👍

[gothamcitycentral]

Okay talking about the new confirmations

Called Correctly

Het Millie

Bisexual Loona

(Aro) Ace Octavia

Pansexual Verosika

Unlabeled Wally

Trans Lesbian Sallie May

Gay (Demisexual Intersex) Fizzarolli

Pansexual Beelzebub

Gay Andrealphus

Called Incorrectly

Bisexual (Genderfluid) Asmodeus

(Aro) Bisexual Barbie Wire

Bisexual Chaz

Unlabeled Mammon

I like especially that Bisexual Loona and Lesbian Sallie May are canon I’ve held onto those hcs for a while.

I figured Chaz being Bi was just, canon? His debut episode was described as “very bisexual” and in it he was shown with the bi flag colors and then again in merch. Though some people pointed out he could use both interchangeably which works for me.

Viv has approved the Bi Ozzie and Demi Fizz headcanons before so I’m a little surprised the former was contradicted and the latter unmentioned in this.

The ace of spades symbol represents aromantic aces so I suppose Mammon is also aro maybe. I don’t really like that because he never struck me as such but it’s, whatever at the end of the day. Feels like leaning into evil aspec trope and I’d rather him be allo but, idk it’s not a big deal. Alastor’s good enough aro rep for me to allow them it. And it’s funny his one true love is money. (I personally take Octavia as also aroace because it seems they’re still using asexual to encompass both).

(Plus I greatly preferred the idea of the sins all having different labels so this has. certainly messed that up lol)

I like all of the succubi being canon pan that’s funny.

I’m both disappointed and relieved about Striker not being included because on one hand “aw no confirmation” but on the other I’m so married to AroAce Striker I’m glad he wasn’t made anything different.

[shootinwebs]

☺️ take your irony poisoning somewhere else, it's not cute. ☺️

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i post about sexey things a lot (in text, labelled at the top as NSFW) but just pointing that out in case anyone's not down with that. i am hypersexual and venting about it through fictional characters helps me cope with it.

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tags (not linked but maybe one day lol) :

#hazbin funnies = memes, goofs, shitposts, etc

#ace deer noises = posts specifically about Alastor being aspec (just be aware that we all don't portray Alastor being aspec the same way and that's fine! i'm aspec and i don't expect people to know exactly what that means for me, and we all have different experiences that we wish were represented better in fiction)

#hazbin hotel x music = playlists, headcanons inspired by songs, etc

#angelhusk = angel+husk ship tag

#radiostatic = alastor+vox

#spiders in my jambalaya = any posts about angel and alastor being friends because blorbo and all that

usually if a character has no last name / second name / etc., i'll use "hazbin" as their last name, i.e. :

#alastor hazbin

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ongoing/permanent headcanons?? or whatever they're called lol:

-Angel is a Trans man (not interested in HRT or gender-affirming surgery, he's perfectly happy with his body -- sans his spider feet lol).

-Angel is completely blind in his left eye, and it has esotropia (his pupil stays fixed to the inner corner of his eye).

-Angel's mother was deaf, Angel is fluent in American Sign Language.

-Alastor and Angel are best friends.

-Fizzarolli is transmasc (was socialized as a girl) but is genderfluid and also tends to identify as non-binary.

[thats-how-i-like-it]

My queer headcanons for my f/o's!

Hitoshi: transmasc agender aspec (he/they)

Ochako: bisexual (she/her)

Fresh: genderqueer aromantic (he/him + any neopronouns)

Mei: bisexual trans girl (she/her)

Suguru: gay (he/him)

Satoru: genderqueer bisexual (he/him)

S! Papyrus: unlabeled (he/him)

Joanne: gay (he/him)

Bakugou: genderfluid arospec gay (he/him or she/her depending on the day)

Aizawa: gay trans man (he/him)

Hizashi: genderqueer bisexual (he/him)

Hanta: aroace (he/him)

Denki: nonbinary bisexual (he/they/she)

Yuugo: bisexual greyace (he/him)

Lucas: gay (he/him)

Cross: demisexual gay (he/him)

All the others that aren't in here are canonically queer (Asra, Fizzarolli, Portia and Julian.)

[justanotherhh]

me, writing anything about hazbin + helluva: but what if everyone was aspec??? what then!????

[justanotherhh]

hold up wdym fizz is word of god demi? did a cast/crew member confirm it?👀

hey hello howdy!

before i get into anything i need to disclaim, for my own health, so bear with me:

first of all, i want to stress that word-of-god is fundamentally meaningless in the sense of actual canon (being a teenager under the reign of that book series about a magic school written by a bigot + the whole 2010s fondness of declaring characters to be gay maybe if you keep watching *wink wink* only to turn around and call queer fans deranged for caring too much... ive got no time for that nonsense)

on the other hand, i think there's also something to say for a show that's about 99.999% canonically queer characters and that sometimes narrative is showing not telling... that is to say... even if there hadn't been any kind of word of god, especially in a verse in which relationship structures are built along fundamentally non-heteronormative dominant lines, one gets to analyse different forms of queerness with far more deliberation than one might in a Very Straight Show In Which We Are Aware That This Was Not Intentional

on the... third? hand. specifically aspec identities, still very underrepresented, still very disputed, still very hard-done by, even when the visuals really do lean into a show-don't-tell obviousness (see: all that marketing for alastor being very aromantic and supported by his narrative in the canon, and it's still not "enough," often simply because many people haven't even heard of ace, never mind aro... i digress, but i think, for relevant reasons), so fizzie being read as demi by people who know

what the heck demi even means

have the ability to engage with an aspec-analysis lens

is probably still the vast vast minority!

all this to say. it's not canon, in the way that, say, his being gay is canon, or blitzø being pan is... more canon (in the sense that the word "pan" may not occur to everyone, but it's more obvious within the queer community and those without may at least land on "bi" and be in the correct ballpark) and moxxie being bisexual is 100% indesputably-stated-out-loud canon

in order for it to be canon, it would have to imo:

either be stated out loud in canon (and even then, we get the word "ace" on hazbin and it's StiLl DiSPuTeD okok im calm...)

fizz would have to have a narrative or speech or some kind of important Beat explicitly dedicated to the fact that he Does Not Feel Sexual Attraction unless he's in love (which... honestly... if that were in connection with some kinda beat in blitzø's narrative about feeling like he's unworthy of love... im just sayin.... + it would lean very neatly into exploring fizzmodeus' being an in-universe very non-normative relationship)

in this case, i do think it's a neat little easter egg, without being pandering or *pat pat on the head,* that is supported by the text, and so yeah. fun. if they backtracked on that and in some way decided fizzarolli has had tons of casual sex that he's enjoyed/pursued... i mean, honestly without the word of god, i'd think that was kinda out of character, which leads me back to "yeah, fun easter egg, only canon insofar as it's not disputed by canon!"

disclaimer over:

this tweet stating the creator said these words, liked by the creator, this was my original reblog of it (although I do note the original poster seems to have taken it down since then)

[justanotherhh]

@justletmeon12 : I think it'd be interesting to consider Ozzie demiromantic, as it would explain how he's constructed Lust and the firm distinction he's publicly (as its powerful leader) created between lust and love. He was someone who instinctively understood split attraction and built his domain before fully interrogating where he stood on it and what his actual desires were, which dovetails with his character arc about being more honest/open about his relationship with Fizz.

yeah this is 100% how I HC it, with him being somewhere along a sort of demi and/or grey-ro line. that is, whether he's ever understood himself as someone who wants to fall in love, or if he's been too busy with his realm, or whether there's something about being a sin and the trappings thereof (and what it means to potentially "break out" of those trappings) and yeah, whether he was interested before he met Fizz. clearly it's frowned upon, and is that because of some kind of hellish sense of propriety, or will it actually affect his realm and his powers more materially?

there's something there about the "force" of love that's more interesting than I usually tend to find it (the nebulous ideas of "love as a powerful thing" is kind of eh, whatever to me, but love as a literal power? or something that literally can strip away power? we already exist in a world in which concepts are People who gain their powers from being these concepts, so what does all of this mean for Asmodeus moving forwards...)

but yeah, does Asmodeus get to have personal feelings about his own relationships, or is his being a Power directly link to an abdication of selfhood........ and also is Fizz really a once in an eternity? (there's another question here about Fizz being mortal and Asmodeus not, but hey, maybe that ties into all of the above too...)

with fizz being word-of-god demi (and tbh i'd just read him that way regardless, but now they oughta make it show canon, thems the rules), thinking about whether he'd ever had sex before he met asmodeus, about how the first person he was in love with was blitzø and that clearly didn't work out, and also about him as disabled and also him as a sex object in hell, there's a lot to unpack

and then on the flipside, it seems so far as if asmodeus hasn't ever been in a romantic relationship prior to fizzarolli, and of course he does have casual sex, that's his whole job, but that's also interesting -- how does asmodeus relate to sexual attraction, when his job is about reading and reacting to others' sexual desires, and how that pertains to reading his relationship with fizzarolli as about building something more longterm that deconstructs both of the ways their public image as sexual ideals rely on what others can get from them (rather than what they feel and want)

essentially they're both in sex work or related to that work in some way, they both understand the world of desire and how to operate in that world, but their relationship to each other (romantic and sexual) is something brand new, it's something not defined by normative relationship structures (for that matter, a sin and an imp, as metaphor for all of this, is that something brand new as well?)

but yeah asmodeus is aspec too, in my mind, which i think would be just the kind of deconstruction of "the sin of lust" that would work in this kind of story. definitely somewhere on the aro side of things, fun to think about also from the ace perspective, and that's one of the (many) reasons he and fizz understand each other so well -- they're not coming at this with an innate "this is the way things are meant to be" set of ideas. there are no assumptions of who they're supposed to be when they're together (well, there are when they're in public, but once those have been challenged head-on and they come out of the closet in s2, so to speak...), so they get to build that brand new identity together in their own way

i just think that concept would be neat

[justanotherhh]

EDIT: @nyxofdemons have also been informed that the tweet itself is a meme based around the joker 2 movie, so the creator definitely didn't say those words (I assumed she hadn't, considering it wasn't any official news source, but just a random account).

but yeah, basically what i was saying was: the point about word of god is… don't take anyone at their word. but if it tickles anyone (as this particular iteration did me), then absolutely use it as a springboard to go deeper into something that may not be entirely canon (or not canon at all, altho again, there's a strange, specific place that aspec rep belongs to, in that it is usually only accepted as Canon canon by audiences atm if it's an Issue Thing, and i dont like that)

which... mayhaps deserves another post on the "legitimacy" or not of aspec rep in the eyes of wider fandom that has otherwise fought for other forms of queer rep to become more recognised beyond the notion of "jokingly stating that it is so" in marketing and on social media... but that is not this post

hold up wdym fizz is word of god demi? did a cast/crew member confirm it?👀

hey hello howdy!

before i get into anything i need to disclaim, for my own health, so bear with me:

first of all, i want to stress that word-of-god is fundamentally meaningless in the sense of actual canon (being a teenager under the reign of that book series about a magic school written by a bigot + the whole 2010s fondness of declaring characters to be gay maybe if you keep watching *wink wink* only to turn around and call queer fans deranged for caring too much... ive got no time for that nonsense)

on the other hand, i think there's also something to say for a show that's about 99.999% canonically queer characters and that sometimes narrative is showing not telling... that is to say... even if there hadn't been any kind of word of god, especially in a verse in which relationship structures are built along fundamentally non-heteronormative dominant lines, one gets to analyse different forms of queerness with far more deliberation than one might in a Very Straight Show In Which We Are Aware That This Was Not Intentional

on the... third? hand. specifically aspec identities, still very underrepresented, still very disputed, still very hard-done by, even when the visuals really do lean into a show-don't-tell obviousness (see: all that marketing for alastor being very aromantic and supported by his narrative in the canon, and it's still not "enough," often simply because many people haven't even heard of ace, never mind aro... i digress, but i think, for relevant reasons), so fizzie being read as demi by people who know

what the heck demi even means

have the ability to engage with an aspec-analysis lens

is probably still the vast vast minority!

all this to say. it's not canon, in the way that, say, his being gay is canon, or blitzø being pan is... more canon (in the sense that the word "pan" may not occur to everyone, but it's more obvious within the queer community and those without may at least land on "bi" and be in the correct ballpark) and moxxie being bisexual is 100% indesputably-stated-out-loud canon

in order for it to be canon, it would have to imo:

either be stated out loud in canon (and even then, we get the word "ace" on hazbin and it's StiLl DiSPuTeD okok im calm...)

fizz would have to have a narrative or speech or some kind of important Beat explicitly dedicated to the fact that he Does Not Feel Sexual Attraction unless he's in love (which... honestly... if that were in connection with some kinda beat in blitzø's narrative about feeling like he's unworthy of love... im just sayin.... + it would lean very neatly into exploring fizzmodeus' being an in-universe very non-normative relationship)

in this case, i do think it's a neat little easter egg, without being pandering or *pat pat on the head,* that is supported by the text, and so yeah. fun. if they backtracked on that and in some way decided fizzarolli has had tons of casual sex that he's enjoyed/pursued... i mean, honestly without the word of god, i'd think that was kinda out of character, which leads me back to "yeah, fun easter egg, only canon insofar as it's not disputed by canon!"

disclaimer over:

this tweet stating the creator said these words, liked by the creator, this was my original reblog of it (although I do note the original poster seems to have taken it down since then)