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When is Echo going to give up on Narcissus and go to Camp Half Blood and make some actual friends?
[Echo finds Leo at CHB]
Leo: Do I know you?
Echo: [statement] I know you.
Leo: Really? Did I fight you or something?
Echo: Or something.
Leo: Why do you keep repeating me? It’s kind of… wait!
Leo: [facepalm] Echo! Dang, I’m sorry! I didn’t mean to forget!
Echo: [annoyed] Mean to forget.
Leo: But isn’t people forgetting you part of the curse?
Echo: [shrugs, resigned] Part of the curse.
Leo: Girl, we have got to get you some text-to-speech tech.
Echo: Text-to-speech tech?
Leo: Come on, I think Chiron’s got a smartphone.
Echo: Smartphone?
Leo: [laughs, starts to lead her away] Now who’s asking all the questions?
Echo: [firmly] Questions.
#percy jackson#heroes of olympus#hoo leo#leo valdez#hoo echo#seriously am I forgetting something that happened or is she still out there somewhere#edit: sign language is a great idea#Leo knows so many languages already though that I don’t know if he has room in his brain to learn another one#or maybe he’d be particularly good at it#anyway I think it’s in character that his first idea is to help her with technology
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Leo, self conscious and nervous about where he stands with Calypso, goes to visit her at her reportedly mortal band camp - only to get an arrow whizzing past his head.
Leo is startled to find someone tugging on his sleeve, trying to get him out of the way. It's a familiar face or maybe it isn't, but he knows it's Echo even though he can't really place who she looks like.
Which means...
Narcissus.
Oh right, Leo'd entirely forgotten he wasn't dead again yet.
So now, not only is Narcissus trying to kill him again, now Calypso is pissed at him for ruining band camp. Sounds like a typical Leo Valdez summer.
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i have suddenly become obsessed with a theme that HoO established but never proceeded to extrapolate on, which is:
You are Percy Jackson, and you have been swapped with a boy who was allegedly everyone's favorite person, but they have decided to replace him with you. They just met you. You stand next to his best friend and the people he's known his entire life. In his home. In his cloak. In his place. They stopped looking for him.
You are Jason Grace, and you have just found out you have a long lost sister who completely replaced you in her life with this girl you just met. Your lives and personalities are mirrors. She is you, living the life you were robbed of.
You are Annabeth Chase, and you have just become starkly aware that you have been inhabiting the void left behind by your best friend's long lost brother. You and Luke were just replacements for him. Now you have to look him in the eyes when he has nothing and know you took that life from him.
You are Piper McLean, and you have just found out your relationship is fake and built entirely on the memories of Annabeth Chase. You have been given a boyfriend when hers has been taken away. You have no idea how much of it is real or not but regardless you feel like if your relationship isn't exactly in their image that you have failed.
You are Leo Valdez, and you have just learned that you are the echo of your great-grandfather. You are not your own person. You just exist to be a mirror of him. A doppelganger. An actor and stunt double facing all the danger he never had to but wearing his face. To be there for his best friend decades later simply because he couldn't. You are playing a role. A seventh wheel and a pawn for a goddess who carefully sculpted your entire life for her own purposes.
You are Hazel Levesque, and the only reason you are alive is because your brother couldn't save your his sister. You are a consolation prize. An apology. Your existence here is misplaced in every way but you inhabit it anyways.
You are Frank Zhang, and you are a shapeshifter. Inhabiting your own body feels strange and clumsy when you could be literally anything at any time. You are anything and everything and live your life with the simple certainty of knowing exactly how you will die.
#pjo#hoo#heroes of olympus#percy jackson#riordanverse#jason grace#annabeth chase#piper mclean#leo valdez#hazel levesque#frank zhang#meta#analysis#me shaking hoo: what if we actually address the interpersonal dynamics of the characters. please. please. please. please.#frank is the only person on the boat not having an identity crisis tied to another member of the crew somehow and that is FASCINATING#but also WHERE is all the interpersonal literally anything. hello. please. making grabby hands. everybody identity crisis go.#i wanna see the entire argo ii crew stumbling through trying to figure out their places and senses of self!!!!!#particularly in relation to each other!!!!! we get snippets but we rarely ever get the full thing or a resolution!!!#like. HELLO??? Piper acknowledging that her relationship with Jason is artificially sculpted in the image of Annabeth and Percy???#and that her ideals of what Jason and her can be are just that she feels like they need to be like what Percy and Annabeth have????#and thats just DROPPED COMPLETELY????#poor Jason is getting replaced twice. Leo is not his own person.#Hazel at least gets the resolution that Nico does not truly see her as a consolation prize#but Annabeth gets to be hit with the like EIGHT YEAR DELAY of learning the place she inhabits in Thalia's life is the echo of someone else#cause like. yeah she knew Thalia had lost her brother but i dont think it clicked for her until she met Jason that oh. she *replaced* him#Frank at least has some certainty about his identity in one aspect (his curse). everybody else is floundering a bit#except for maybe Percy but its kind of the camps of ''i replaced this person and it weighs on me'' versus ''i have been replaced''
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I love uncle rick but I will never forgive him for making Leo end up with Calypso instead of Echo
#﴾ vinnie’s talks ﴿.#pjo fandom#pjo series#percy jackson#pjo hoo toa#riordanverse#heroes of olympus#leo valdez#echo
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yeah so this was insane
#i feel like too many people reduce this interaction to jason being like ‘lol same’#but idk :/#this chapter is from jason’s pov#and leading up to it he’s like ‘people keep walking on eggshells around me bc of the the michael varus stab wound’#and he hates it so when he goes on deck to help out with the storm#everyone’s like wtf except for percy#and jason states how much he appreciated percy not treating him like a sick kid#and i feel like it’s echoed in this sentiment where jason could say so many things like#‘you should never feel that way’ ‘im here if you need anything’#but he doesn’t make percy feel alone in his desire to just…. end it all#which ik for some people that doesn’t work but you’re not a character in hoo and percy is dealing with so much guilt#and he can’t tell annabeth bc she’s a main aspect of that guilt#and he doesn’t wanna guilt her more and he feels ashamed and when he describes this he feels weird for feeling it#so having jason this tough guy be like ‘yo i understand it bc i felt the same way#that’s gotta mean a lot to percy#also insane how jason who also struggles to display vulnerability#allows it in one of few times in this moment just so percy this guy he’s supposed to be jealous about#feels comforted and not alone in his guilt and shame#and also it’s just insane how jason’s wanting to kay em ess does not get talked about AT ALL#and just seeing his mom and the pressure of new rome getting to him#like this scene is insane and i’ll never shut up about it#also ignore me i’m just finishing my reread of hoo that took all summer#jason grace#percy jackson#pjo#ashla.txt
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Calypso x Leo SUCKS, here is why
Look, I get why that sounds harsh, and it is, but hear me out.
First and most importantly, Calypso is a pedophile. We see her fall in love with 14 year old Percy, then 15/16 year old Leo. Already weird, right? And look, if we got some explanation as to why it would ever be okay for a titaness who is thousands of years old to fall in love with CHILDREN, maybe I could see past it.
BUT in the odyssey myth, Odysseus was MUCH older than a teenager. He was already noted to be an old wise king (who was old enough to feign madness from old age) at the START of the Trojan war. Now that war lasted 10 years and add to that the multiple years he spent traveling to Ithaca, and you got an old-ass man. So either Calypso was already a mature adult, or a child thirsting after some old dude. Sure, it happens, but weird. Let's not forget that Odysseus was married and very much still in love with his WIFE Penelope, but Calypso basically kept him hostage on her island and would not let him leave at all.
Now let's get to Percy, he got blamed for not making sure that the gods kept their promise??? Good sir that is a 16 year old who just got out of a WAR and had his memory stolen, of course he didn't check with the gods. ITS NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY! He shouldn't be held accountable. Also let me remind you that Calypso wanted him when he was 14. Not a good look.
And finally, we get to Leo. Poor poor Leo. A boy who was oh-so starved for love that he took anything he could get, and that's my explanation as to why Calypso x Leo ever happened. Honestly, I adored Leo. I had a crush on him (still kinda do shhh), I won't lie. However, I also adored Annabeth but since her and Percy are amazing together, I could get behind Percabeth. But Caleo? Hell no. Sure, they have a fun dynamic, but it's more of a sibling dynamic in my opinion. I would've rather had Leo x Khione or something. Maybe Leo x Echo cause that would've been adorable. But Caleo??? No. He should've never gone back for her. Leave her to rot.
Secondly, Calypso is simply a jerk. And I'm the type of person who adores asshole characters when done right. Octavian is great because he's an irredeemable asshole AND he gets karma. But Calypso? She's a bitch and gets such a kindhearted boyfriend in return. Like I said, she tried to pressure a (married) man into sleeping with her and is simply a dick to Leo (HER BOYFRIEND) and I could understand if they were siblings, cause siblings are dicks to eachother with love underneath, but she just sucks. She immediately hated him, which she has reason to do after what happened to her, but even after that she was just horrible to Leo. I seriously don't see why he loves, likes, or even tolerates her.
In conclusion, I hate what Rick did to Leo. I adore his stories like no other (which is why I'm so passionate about this), but he really fumbled the bag here. Calypso is just not a good fit for Leo.
Personally I really do prefer Leo x Jason, Leo x Nico or even Leo x Echo. And yes it does sound weird for me to say that considering that I call Calypso a pedo, but I could see Echo not being able to age normally because of being stuck with Narcissus. Echo x Leo is in my opinion much better than Calypso x Leo.
Um sorry- that was really mean but I needed to say that.
On a lighter note I saw this really long worm which was cool! :D
#leo valdez#pjo#pjo fandom#percy jackon and the olympians#heroes of olympus#pjo hoo toa#hoo#Calypso#Echo#Narcissus#Valgrace#leo x jason#leo x nico#leo x echo#anti caleo#anti calypso#caleo#odysseus#the odyssey#but seriously that worm was so cool
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Okay actually like why does nobody talk about Leo and Echo bc that chapter is gonna make me cry.

“Leo closed his eyes, but the memory of her smile was already fading”
why don’t you just kill me now actually
#i may not ship them but they adorable#also leo is the most realest character ever like omg#Team Leo#leo valdez#echo and leo#percy jackson#pjo#percy jackon and the olympians#heroes of olympus#percyjackson#rick riordan#rrverse#pjo hoo toa#pjo fandom#pjoverse#the mark of athena
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Narcissus may have been vain and a consummate heartbreaker, but Nemesis had no right to do what she did. Trapping him in a prison of his own mind, forcing him to feel so over confident and in love with himself that he never notices the world around him. I imagine it's both more comforting and more painful, blocking out all sensation until you starve to death. In love with a mirror image, unware it's unable to love you back. I think what Nemesis did to him counts as torture. And I would hope people would back me up on that.
Also, don't even get me started on Echo. Hera apparently did that one, but seeing as Echo was cursed, I think this falls under Nemesis's jurisdiction too. Echo was cursed to never be able to talk unless she repeats the words of other people. She's the only one who genuinely cares for Narcissus, and yet she's so unremarkable that nobody notices her. These two deserve better. They were tortured in cruel and unusual ways. And I want to see them finally get their happy endings.
#narcissus#echo#it's hard not to just feel intense sadness for these two#they deserved better#and nemesis is a jerk who cursed them#anti nemesis#pjo#percy jackson#heroes of olympus#pjo hoo toa#heros of olympus#hoo#mark of athena#the mark of athena#the heroes of olympus#heroes of olympus series#my opinions#rick riordan#riordan universe#riordan verse#rant
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my idea of a clovis & lou ellen dynamic is the two kids who walked the track during pe btw. one is in pajamas & slippers and the other is goth so both would either die of heat stroke or break a foot if they actually ran. and neither is willing to change into any other outfit or getting any participation points. and they are Good Friends
#clovis#lou ellen blackstone#clovis pjo#hoo#echoes#pjo#heroes of olympus#relevant bc i am writing a fic where they r friends its fun
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a boycott is not the answer to everything guys. guys please be serious
#One day boycotts are as useful as a nation wide general strike that is not at all#1. Action like this requires clarity of purpose and demands and not just generally being mad. Companies don't gaf how you feel#2. The number of people who will participate is significantly smaller than you would think if you're only seeing your echo chambers#A boycott that has a set end date and not an end condition is soooooo whatever for a corporation. Boo hoo they won't buy from us today#I know everyone just wants to feel like they're doing something but please take a second to think and be serious about this.#Look into local aid organizations AND I MEAN LOCAL#Nationwide action requires months if not years of careful planning and organizing. Not a Twitter post and shaming people#my post#us politics#Boycott#'but it's to send a message' no offense but no one is listening :/
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it's 12 am, currently thinking about Echo from Mark of Athena
#ok i love calypso and all but caleo?? hahah... no...#leo and echo... i miss them... :((#Leo could've had a partner that didnt berade or insult him every 5 minutes but noOOO they decide to leace echo with narcissus#Leo and Calypso give off sibling vibes with the way the bicker#Leo and Echo had more chemistry in one chapter than Leo and Calypso in multiple#ok im done with my rant now#pjo#percy jackson#hoo#heroes of olympus#leo x echo#leo valdez
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i love valgrace and i love valeangrace (jasipereo(?) i don't like that ship name), but LEO X ECHO WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT
like, two people that were always ignored, with unrequited crushes, find each other and get together. would be really good, and i think rick missed the opportunity to put them together
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you know how caleo shouldve ended? not together
first of all, where is the romance. they have all the banter and none of the cutes (except in the like, what, one/two scenes calypso tells someone not to attack leo in toa? i barely even remember)
theyre more like. siblings honestly
leo x jason and echo x calypso shouldve obv been canon 😞 (/j thats not the poijt here but i do love both ships)
they have totally different things they want in life
calypso wants to finally live it. she's spent so long on that gods forsaken island isolated, and she now finally has a chance to actually do shit !!! be a contributing member of society !! figure out who she is, what she wants, what to do with the rest of her life !!!
leo is finally done running. he's found his home: the waystation, chb, piper, not-dead-jason. he deserves to rest after everything he's been put through, and so he will; live life comfortably, finally stay in one place, have a stable family with unconditional love he so needs !!!
literally midnight rain by tswift
calypso deserves to go out and live her life, leo deserves to sit back and enjoy his
which is why they should go their seperate ways and at most be friends !!! (or siblings depending on waystation hcs <3)
#i love anticaleo ranting#shel says shit#pjo#percy jackson#percy jackon and the olympians#heroes of olympus#hoo#trials of apollo#toa#the heroes of olympus#the trials of apollo#anti caleo#4vr and always#concept? good. execution? shit.#leo valdez#calypso pjo#jason grace#echo pjo#valgrace#echolypso#currently dominating echolypso tag with my accs 💪 bc no one knows them like i do 😞
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Sometimes I wake up and I’m like
“I should just say fuck it and make a second channel where I narrate The Trials of Apollo bc fuck it I want a good audiobook of it and no one has lived up to my expectations”
#i would literally yell the arrow of dodonas lines and put a silly ass echo on it everything#so#let me know if u want me to read you guys a bedtime story#bc I will narrate the whole ass series pjo and hoo included#bc i havent found any narrators I like so far#and Im one of the only people on the planet who doesnt mind listening to their own voices ig#🫒#i am apollonough
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Shoutout to the ones that still remember my girl Echo!
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Can I just say this without getting after on that echo and Leo had more chemistry now I think about it I love caleo and don't understand why it gets so much hate but there will always be a space for echo and Leo in my heart
#pjo#hoo#toa#toa hoo pjo#echo#nico di angelo#percy jackson#camp half blood#jason grace#will solace#annabeth chase#leo valdez#lee fletcher
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