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[aterfish]

I don't really understand this whole "kicking an existing fandom out of their tag".

As I understand it, there is a suggestion for an additional tag (#dponly ?) that if used correctly will show post without crossovers, just pure dp content. So it will be used by people tagging their post both dp and dponly for people who want to search or follow pure dp content using dponly tag.

The original dp tag would be still used as always. Nothing will change, there will be no kicking anyone out. Whole fandom will be there.

It's really weird to me using the phrase "kicking out existing fandom out of their tag" for sugesting adding a tag and then saying its more fair to literally kick other fans out of the tag. Because no matter how big and ooc the dpxdc is, it's still part of dp fandom.

I totally agree that what we have today is a mess. It is frustrating. Something has to change one way or another. But realistically speaking removing dpxdc content from dp tag is a bit harder than one au. Especially if, as you're saying the crossover passed a treshhold. There are people who never went to dp tag, coming drom dc fandom. They will not know the 'rule' about tagging. You can never get to everyone. Even if there was a movement and most fans will tag only dpxdc without dp tag, some would still do it as they always do.

Having another tag that will be made by and for people using it is easier to manage. It's policing yourself rather than others. I don't know if it will stick, but we should at least try.

I feel the most effective would be both using the additional tag AND for people tagging only dpxdc if they feel like it's fine with them. We will see how it turns out. I hope i haven't overstepped.

Can we please politely push for DPxDC content to not use the main DP tags?

An AU overtaking a main tag is a fairly common fandom thing to happen, and when it does happen, this is generally how it's dealt with. There's no solid guideline of when to do it, but at some point, an AU becomes so widespread that blacklisting doesn't really help.

It's also simply not fair, nor logical to shove a fandom out of its tags and into a different tag or community. What about new fans who peek into the main tag and see nothing but an AU they weren't looking for?

(This is a great place to also remind people that only the first five tags on a post get sorted site-wide. Anything after those are purely for your own organization in your own blog. So you can still tag your stuff with canon tags after the first five!)

I really think DPxDC stuff needs to be posted in a dedicated tag/community. I really don't want to have to start blocking individual users, but after waiting for... what, three years, I think? In hopes that fans would self-govern and use a bit of common courtesy I've seen in other fandoms? I'm unfortunately almost there. Not to say that this is deliberately rude! I'm not sure the fandom at large has really talked about it enough for DPxDC fans to catch on, so I don't blame any party here.

I just think this is something we could very politely ask for more. Be kind, be patient, and see if we all can't make this fandom space a bit more comfy for everyone, yeah?

[aterfish]

I recently found out that blocking dcxdp isnt enough for small fandoms. It means scrolling a fandom tag with a lot of post hidden. I get that it can be frustrating.

I think people who says "just dont tag dp and dc with dpxdc" arent aware it wont solve anything.

There will still be people who will tag with multiple fandom tags, because thats the norm on tumblr. This "etiquette" will never reach everyone. Someone new wont know this. Someone who just post and dissapear wont know this. Or just people who dont agree with this. It's obvious. Heck I didnt know about this and im on tumblr everyday.

And what is your plan for that posts? Leave mutiple comments that they tagged wrong? Even if they used the right tags for the right fandom? Tired people are angry people i dont see this turning out anything than toxic.

And as an artist: we like having audience. Fandom is a community. What if you are able to remove dpxdc from other tags. How new people will find it?

Having a separate tag means:

* it will be easy to find for new people (it will be with the other tags!)

* it will be optional. Its only for people who are tired of crossovers. YOU DECIDE what you want to see. No policing others.

* using this tag with crossover tag will be missuse of a tag (very intuitive)

* it will mean that new people wont know about it, so wont be using it to tag it with crossovers accidentally.

Idk about you, but i see this as an absolute win for everyone

This would be used in addition to the danny phantom tag, turning it into a true umbrella tag for everything related to Danny Phantom, while having a few major sub-tags for people to find exactly what they want.

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After some more discussion with members of the fandom in the notes of my poll asking about a community and elsewhere, it seems like the better option for everyone might actually be a new tag, so I'm making a new poll here!

Some answers to questions I think people might have are below the readmore:

Q: Why are all of these only one word?

A: For the same reason the dpxdc tag is only one word! Tumblr's tagging implementation is Not Good. Tags with spaces don't play well with it, and especially don't play well with blocked tags. If someone wants to block non-crossover Danny Phantom content, we want to make it as painless as possible for them.

Q: What issues were raised around communities?

A: A few! To name some of them:

Limited interactions with posts: Communities only let you react with emoji and leave comments on posts reblogged into them. Not great, if we want to have long reblog chains riffing on one another

Original Posters aren't notified if someone else reblogs their post into a community, even if it's public. So if someone reblogged your post into the community for you, you wouldn't know about it -- or know to look for people interacting with it.

Communities have mods, and therefore would need trustworthy, engaged mods to make it work. Over a short time frame, we could probably manage it! But over a longer one, a community for an entire fandom would probably have moderator drama. That could lead to fracturing, or people leaving specifically because they don't like the mods, etc. A tag is a lot less active maintenance.

A few people also expressed a general dislike for the feature, even if they were willing to move to one. This seems like a much smaller change that will let those people stay away from a feature they don't like, while interacting with the content they do.

Q: What about less-common crossovers? Won't those get excluded from this tag?

A: They will. I'm asking about this poll first because I figured getting the community to make a decision about the other crossovers would be easier if we'd already decided on the non-crossovers.

The current idea is to move those to their own tag as well, so they can get dedicated attention from the crossover enthusiasts who love them. One of the people I talked to about this runs the niche-dp-crossovers blog, so it's on the radar. If you have concerns or suggestions about that, the notes on this post is as good a place as any to suggest them!

[aterfish]

This would be used in addition to the danny phantom tag, turning it into a true umbrella tag for everything related to Danny Phantom, while having a few major sub-tags for people to find exactly what they want.

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After some more discussion with members of the fandom in the notes of my poll asking about a community and elsewhere, it seems like the better option for everyone might actually be a new tag, so I'm making a new poll here!

Some answers to questions I think people might have are below the readmore:

Q: Why are all of these only one word?

A: For the same reason the dpxdc tag is only one word! Tumblr's tagging implementation is Not Good. Tags with spaces don't play well with it, and especially don't play well with blocked tags. If someone wants to block non-crossover Danny Phantom content, we want to make it as painless as possible for them.

Q: What issues were raised around communities?

A: A few! To name some of them:

Limited interactions with posts: Communities only let you react with emoji and leave comments on posts reblogged into them. Not great, if we want to have long reblog chains riffing on one another

Original Posters aren't notified if someone else reblogs their post into a community, even if it's public. So if someone reblogged your post into the community for you, you wouldn't know about it -- or know to look for people interacting with it.

Communities have mods, and therefore would need trustworthy, engaged mods to make it work. Over a short time frame, we could probably manage it! But over a longer one, a community for an entire fandom would probably have moderator drama. That could lead to fracturing, or people leaving specifically because they don't like the mods, etc. A tag is a lot less active maintenance.

A few people also expressed a general dislike for the feature, even if they were willing to move to one. This seems like a much smaller change that will let those people stay away from a feature they don't like, while interacting with the content they do.

Q: What about less-common crossovers? Won't those get excluded from this tag?

A: They will. I'm asking about this poll first because I figured getting the community to make a decision about the other crossovers would be easier if we'd already decided on the non-crossovers.

The current idea is to move those to their own tag as well, so they can get dedicated attention from the crossover enthusiasts who love them. One of the people I talked to about this runs the niche-dp-crossovers blog, so it's on the radar. If you have concerns or suggestions about that, the notes on this post is as good a place as any to suggest them!

[aterfish]

Who the fuck thought that naming a dye like that was a good idea.

Yeah, she coom on my assie till im blue

[aterfish]

4:30am happy sunrise everyone

[aterfish]

I'm about to write and send an official motion to the Supreme Court immediately requesting to stop my fucking ovaries from hurting I don't have time for that.

[aterfish]

AAAAAAAUGHHHH <- full of strawberries and spite

[aterfish]

Had to get it out of my head.

It's nice how evolution let us have break from mindless survival, so we can enjoy sun.

[aterfish]

Had to get it out of my head.

It's nice how evolution let us have break from mindless survival, so we can enjoy sun.

[aterfish]

If i would go outside and scream at 3 am i would get in trouble, but when BIRDS

[aterfish]

Putting 'having a breakdown' on my to do list so i feel more accomplished by the end of the day

[aterfish]

come on intercity powinno mieć chociaż liste pociągów gdzie pisze czy mają wtyczki itp proooosze

i czy klima jest w jakikolwiek sposób odczuwalna też.

[aterfish]

Here's a meme for the Guess That Artist: Meme Redraw from the Haunting Heroes discord server!

Other memes: 1 | 2 | 3

OG meme:

[aterfish]

Here's a meme for the Guess That Artist: Meme Redraw from the Haunting Heroes discord server!

Other memes: 1 | 2 | 3

OG meme:

[aterfish]

Here's a meme for the Guess That Artist: Meme Redraw from the Haunting Heroes discord server!

Other memes: 1 | 2 | 3

OG meme:

[aterfish]

We must begin to summon the Boy.

Start a reposting chain with the following Gif to help him rise.

[aterfish]

can you believe it guys. silksong. only a tomorrow away