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bionicdragonguardian1 · 3 months
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I made a post about Amatakka where I discussed Pinyon Marks, diacritical marks, and other letter modifiers or tone markers needing to be included in Fan-made languages to convey pronunciation.
This is should also just be a thing when we get around to making a universal language.
Marks I’m referring to:
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When someone makes a universal language
Make sure each letter makes ONE, SINGULAR sound.
Not three!
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bionicdragonguardian1 · 6 months
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I have jumped face first into the deep end of @fialleril Amavikka world building and even further into @booklindworm Amatakka dictionary and a thought has occurred to me.
With a phrase a heavy, both culturally and literal, as “dukkra ba dukkra” (freedom or death) I can’t help but ponder the further possibilities of how a change in the pronunciation of “ba” (or) could open this sentence to even more meanings.
I am by NO means an expert in ANY language but I’ve been exploring tonal languages- specifically how to pronounce the different tones nearly the same letter could pronounce depending on how it’s written- especially when comparing to more Eurocentric letter modifications.
(1st thru 4th tone marks or pinyin vs the vast spread of diacritical markers vs tones and accent contours. [see below cut for examples] Or something adjacent to those. All while considering consonant modifier options [specifically things like “ß, ł, ń, š, or ż” comes to mind].)
With a language as- theoretically- old as Amatakka and a culture as vast as Amavikka (looking specifically to A Call For Help by BarinSidhe on AO3 and specifically how the “freedom” euphemisms/terminology/ phrasing changes from one planet to the next [as is logical in my mind and nifty little tidbit {and it remembering Obi-wan’s time on Bandomeer which most fics seem to forget} I love this fic for] and can thus lead to some minor misunderstandings even amongst fellow Amatakka speakers and Amavikka who have been further removed from their culture when moved to new planets) I would be less surprised to find out that such things simply fell out of use and have changed greatly over time than I would be if it stayed consistent.
One of the things I’m considering that could’ve fallen out of use is tonals. Not entirely, of course, but I’m wondering if once upon a time Amatakka had words with far more nuance to them but in order to make it easier for newer learners the tonal forms of many words fell out of use, and new- different- words took their place.
Returning back to “dukkra ba dukkra” (because I SWEAR I have a point).
One: I’m half convinced that once upon a time Dukkra would’ve had two (or more) pronunciations, even if it was just the newer Amavikka doing so & it tended to fall out of use the longer they were enslaved.
Two: imagine if different pronunciations of ba had different meanings, different tonal sounds that could lead to the word meaning something entirely different than simply “or”.
Meaning, hypothetically, “dukkra ba dukkra” depending on the tones used could go from “freedom or death” to:
- freedom is death / death is freedom (these two feel okay to interchange)
- freedom from death
> death from freedom (I see a few ways this could swing interestingly)
- freedom and death / death and freedom (gotta love the implications of listing order)
- freedom of death (see next)
> death of freedom (these two are SO different that I think you’d need to have pronunciation differences between each “dukkra” to clarify which is which)
- freedom in death (largely implied already in Double Agent Darth AU)
> death in freedom (I just think this is an interesting concept)
Etc.
And Three: as a midwestern American I have the unique standing of hearing how even those of us on the same continent (the same country, the same region, the same state even) have minor changes in pronunciations of the same word that while it doesn’t change the meaning of the word it can immediately tell everyone around you where you’re from and truly shows off the limitations of the written word to correctly convey sounds in a way everyone will understand. (Long vs Short “a” sound in the word “bag”, if you want to get specific.)
While we know this occurs in Star Wars due to IRL ascents (ref: Leia), I’m ignoring it. As it leaves several more pronunciations up for grabs.
(But it also leaves me kinda scratching my head if I’m even approaching nearly half the Amatakka dictionary correctly. Which is why I bring the concept up in the first place, because I think for a Conlang these types of things need to be conveyed.)
But… yeah, that’s what’s been rattling around in my brain for the last few weeks.
Thoughts?
For reference:
Mandarin tones / Pinyin marks
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Diacritical markings
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Accent contours
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I feel the need to point out that supernatural never showed what color any angels’ wings were, we only the saw the shadows.
Yet somehow the coloring never clicked in my head til now.
Now I’m imagine whose wings would be which color in the show.
Do the color brightness change depending on the vessel being inhabited? Like they’re the same colors but maybe when Michael is in Adam the blues are more sky blue but in YoungJohn they’re more navy? And then when Lucifer takes over Cas do they meld?
I’m not going to be only one who gets dragged back into this fandom because of this post!
Who would be what color(s)?!?
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I did it, I'm back on Wattpad.
I'm ImpulseToImpling.
Hey all, I figured I’d give the update here because I don’t know where else to go with it since I don’t have my Wattpad anymore.
(I’m thinking about trying again on another email, don’t know if I will or not.)
But for everyone who has my google link to my YJ scripts folder, I just did over half of Ep 25 of season 1.
(Yay!)
I apologize for the long delay, but I think I’m finally getting back into it. Properly.
So if I can be selfish and ask for comments I am.
If you would like the link PM me & give me your email address so I can add you.
Also if you think there’d be somewhere better to post these let me know!
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Hey all, I figured I’d give the update here because I don’t know where else to go with it since I don’t have my Wattpad anymore.
(I’m thinking about trying again on another email, don’t know if I will or not.)
But for everyone who has my google link to my YJ scripts folder, I just did over half of Ep 25 of season 1.
(Yay!)
I apologize for the long delay, but I think I’m finally getting back into it. Properly.
So if I can be selfish and ask for comments I am.
If you would like the link PM me & give me your email address so I can add you.
Also if you think there’d be somewhere better to post these let me know!
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yo!! I just realized ur YJ script on AO3 got taken down D: do you still have a copy of it by chance?
Yes! I still have copies, and am slowly working my way through them- getting them booted really hurt my mental health and confidence ngl- in order to at least finish season 1 in its entirety.
If you would like to be able to view all of the ones that are currently finished you'll need to PM me with your email so I can share the link to my google drive folder (tho there is going to be some minor changes to it in the near future just so you know).
You won't have the ability to edit, but with commenting ability you should be able to still copy/paste and move forward from there.
Otherwise they are actually still up on FFnet (up to ep20) and I don't think they're at risk of being taken down from there.
Thanks for still showing an interest.
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I live in India. If any of us needs medical attention if infected, I'm quite sure we won't survive. Delhi is a large capital city, MP's have to tweet and beg to get medical attention for their loved ones. We have the record for highest single day infections.
This video by the BBC India bureau is pretty distressing and summarises the issue quite effectively: supplies, infrastructure, vaccines.
A crowdsourced list of fundraisers to donate (<FF> for campaigns that accept foreign funds, I'm also matching donations upto Rs 20000, DM)
If you have time this weekend: volunteer to collect information of the status of beds
Unfortunately, money will not solve all of India's problems. This is the activism I'd encourage you to pursue if you're not Indian:
1. The United States refuses to lift a export raw material ban on vaccine products even temporarily. Note that India exported 60 million doses of Astra Zeneca abroad before this crisis.
2. Angela Merkel threatens future retaliation against India for focusing on domestic vaccines.
3. There's also a WTO bill that would waive patent monopolies *temporarily* in addressing COVID
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I call all of this genocidal colonialism by another name. Please organise. India is the producer of vaccines and pharma that is intended to go to middle and low income countries, as long as the crisis continues here, it will have knock on effects in South America and Africa. The virus mutating through 1 billion people will get deadlier and find you too, so it's probably in your self interest.
Campaign #PeoplesVaccine to support the WTO bill
If you live in the UK: petition to sign (on 500/10000 signatures)
If you live in the US: find your reps here
Edit (thanks @ataratah): Text "sign pkslvl" to the RESISTBOT (50409) to get on the petition and send a letter to your reps to lift the embargo. It's super quick and you don't have to be eloquent or talk to a single human!
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I'll update with resources for more countries as I find them.
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OH! And obviously no 2+ letters should sound the same!!
When someone makes a universal language
Make sure each letter makes ONE, SINGULAR sound.
Not three!
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I call upon the fan fic writing gods to bless you with the perseverance to finish one of your unfinished drafts. 
May your fingers dance along the letters upon your device with ease, may the devil of distraction stay far from you, and may your work not need much editing.
I pass this blessing upon every fan fic writer out there.
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unfriendly reminder: this is a sex worker positive space. I will not tolerate the disrespect of sex workers here, and if you cant agree with that without a doubt then you're not welcome here.
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Unusual Asks
Spotify, SoundCloud, or Pandora? 
is your room messy or clean?
what color are your eyes?
do you like your name? why?
what is your relationship status? 
describe your personality in 3 words or less
what color hair do you have?
what kind of car do you drive? color?
where do you shop?
how would you describe your style?
favorite social media account
what size bed do you have? 
any siblings?
if you can live anywhere in the world where would it be? why?
favorite snapchat filter? 
favorite makeup brand(s)
how many times a week do you shower?
favorite tv show?
shoe size?
how tall are you?
sandals or sneakers? 
do you go to the gym? 
describe your dream date
how much money do you have in your wallet at the moment?
what color socks are you wearing? 
how many pillows do you sleep with?
do you have a job? what do you do? 
how many friends do you have? 
whats the worst thing you have ever done? 
whats your favorite candle scent? 
3 favorite boy names
3 favorite girl names
favorite actor? 
favorite actress? 
who is your celebrity crush?
favorite movie? 
do you read a lot? whats your favorite book? 
money or brains? 
do you have a nickname? what is it? 
how many times have you been to the hospital?
top 10 favorite songs
do you take any medications daily? 
what is your skin type? (oily, dry, etc)
what is your biggest fear? 
how many kids do you want? 
whats your go to hair style?
what type of house do you live in? (big, small, etc) 
who is your role model? 
what was the last compliment you received?
what was the last text you sent?
how old were you when you found out santa wasn’t real?
what is your dream car? 
opinion on smoking?
do you go to college? 
what is your dream job? 
would you rather live in rural areas or the suburbs? 
do you take shampoo and conditioner bottles from hotels? 
do you have freckles? 
do you smile for pictures?
how many pictures do you have on your phone? 
have you ever peed in the woods? 
do you still watch cartoons? 
do you prefer chicken nuggets from Wendy’s or McDonalds?
Favorite dipping sauce? 
what do you wear to bed? 
have you ever won a spelling bee?
 what are your hobbies?
can you draw? 
do you play an instrument?
what was the last concert you saw? 
tea or coffee?
Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts?
do you want to get married?
what is your crush’s first and last initial?
are you going to change your last name when you get married? 
what color looks best on you? 
do you miss anyone right now? 
do you sleep with your door open or closed?
do you believe in ghosts?
what is your biggest pet peeve? 
last person you called`
favorite ice cream flavor? 
regular oreos or golden oreos? 
chocolate or rainbow sprinkles? 
what shirt are you wearing? 
what is your phone background?
are you outgoing or shy?
do you like it when people play with your hair?
do you like your neighbors? 
do you wash your face? at night? in the morning?
have you ever been high? 
have you ever been drunk? 
last thing you ate? 
favorite lyrics right now
summer or winter? 
day or night? 
dark, milk, or white chocolate? 
favorite month? 
what is your zodiac sign
 who was the last person you cried in front of? 
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I mean, sure, but I don’t know if I’m prepared to know this information.
Especially this year with the Pandemic.
But also, my Ao3 history probably should be just between me and whoever is sending my ass to hell.
concept: spotify wrapped but for fanfics
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Also, silent letters/letter combinations can take a long walk off a short pier.
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When someone makes a universal language
Make sure each letter makes ONE, SINGULAR sound.
Not three!
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The ONLY time I wouldn’t tag Major Character Death is if I want said death to be a twist.
Like Hero suddenly turns on their morals and kills villain and sends the story in a whole new direction.
However, THAT it I would tag with Creator Chose not to use Archive Warnings and on the chapter of the death in notes of AO3 I’d say something like “go to end to see TW” and there I would have Major Character Death listed.
Should you tag ‘Major Character Death’ if the person who dies at the end is a villain?
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I’d say a villain is a pretty major character, so I personally would yes. If you don’t want to reveal that ending, you could also use Author Chose Not to Use Archive Warnings. 
It’s important to remember that just because a character is a villain doesn’t mean they’re unimportant. They play a large role in the plot and in the protagonists’ journey and growth. 
Plus, a lot of people love villain characters. They’re fun. They’re fascinating. They’re sexy. They’re relatable. All of the things that a protagonist can be, a villain can be too. 
If the only reason why you wouldn’t use the MCD warning is because it’s for the villain, then I say use it. But that’s just me. What do the rest of you think?
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