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it’s funny how i stopped getting hate asks when i turned off anon asks
y’all are cowards fr 💀 cant take any of you clowns seriously when you have to hide behind an anon ask
#plural system#pluralgang#actually plural#endo friendly#plurality#plural community#endo safe#system stuff#endo system#endogenic
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reblog if you want people to add your simplyplural (make sure to put it in the tags if so!!!)
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🔭 and what neos do different headmates use if yes :D
yes a lot of us use neo pronouns! :D 77 out of ≈130 of us use them
almost all of us neo pronoun users have at least one unique set, so it would take ages to list them all hahaha. i’d say there’s probably at LEAST 100 sets of neo pronouns in our system all together!
#plural system#pluralgang#actually plural#endo friendly#plurality#plural community#endo safe#system stuff#endo system#endogenic#system ask game#plural ask game#ask game
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🌎 and 🛸 for the ask game! -🦇💫
hi hi!!
🌎 - yes, some of us do! a couple speak spanish, some speak russian, some speak german etc etc. a lot of our english speakers (myself included) are trying to learn their languages so that we can communicate better :)
🛸 - also yes, many of us have exo-memories, especially those closer to their sources. i believe Simon has the most as he’s a mix of ‘09 Ghost and ‘22 Ghost, so he has memories from both sources
thanks for the ask, this was fun! :D
#plural system#pluralgang#actually plural#endo friendly#plurality#plural community#endo safe#system stuff#endo system#endogenic
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please ask us stuff we’re so bored 😭
Space themed System ask game based on common fakeclaim "criteria" because these things are valid and cool actually
🛰-Do you have a large headcount?
👾-Do any alters in your system have typing quirks?
🚀-Does your system have any Non-human alters?
☄️-Is your system neurodivergent?
🔭-Does your system use neo Pronouns?
🌠-Do any of the alters in your system have dyed hair?
🌙-Are there any nonverbal alters in your system?
🪐-Does your system have Angry or "dangerous" persecutors?
💫-Do your littles use 'little-speech?'
🌌-Does your system have little to no amnesia between switches?
🌟-Does your system have fairly clear communication?
🌘-Do you have a large or complex headspace?
🛸-Do any alters in your system have exo-memories?
👽Does your system have any tics?
☀️-is your system bad at masking?
✨️-Do any alters in your system have an accent?
🌎-Do any alters in your system speak in a different language?
☁️-Does your system use things like pluralkit and simply plural?
⭐️-are you out about being a system?
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i hate whenever a system coining blog tells endos not to use their terms like you can't fucking Gatekeep terms 😭😭
"endos are not welcome to use my terms!!!!" "non traumagenics not allowed to use!!" are you gonna show up to my house and shoot me or something
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btw i hope you know that you’re an amazing person and you’re loved and appreciated and that you deserve absolutely every good thing in the world
I know some people might have a hard time understanding why I (a traumagenic system that was abused by a fake system) don’t fakeclaim endos. In fact, I think some might even find me stupid for it.
Growing up, my disorders and symptoms were ignored because of my brother having diagnosed autism and his issues taking priority. My parents were so focused on him that when I brought up that I might have autism, it was laughed at. I not only have trauma from it but I have much more severe issues by having my issues invalidated and ignored. Because of a lack of support and treatment, a lot of my issues went unaddressed for years.
I know what it’s like to be laughed at by doctors. I know what it’s like to be ignored. I know what it’s like to have my issues disregarded. I never ever want to cause that for another person. I am willing to be lied to if it means giving someone support when they get none.
I would rather be lied to and betrayed than invalidate, isolate, ignore, and demonise a person that isn’t lying.
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(heated rant incoming!!!)
Also the fact that the word “plural” was made for and by endogenic systems. That term was coined to give non-disordered systems a space of our own so that we AREN’T invading on the spaces dedicated to disordered systems. The term plural is probably the most endo-friendly term there is in this community and yet the sysmeds and anti endos are now invading OUR spaces.
Pluralkit and SimplyPlural were both made by endogenic or endo-friendly systems. The fact that anti-endos are so fucking uneducated on the people they hate so much says a lot about them.
I will always think that antiendos and sysmeds who invade plural spaces are lazy, bigoted, trashy excuses for people and need to step the fuck down and take a look at the history of our community.
Because as long as they claim that we’re invading their spaces when they are so blatantly fucking invading ours, they will never be valid and they will never be welcome in the genuinely kind and respectful spaces that us endo systems have created to make ALL systems feel included and valued.
This may be a hot take but endogenic systems and endo-friendly systems have done SO much more for this community than the bigoted assholes have. Antiendos and sysmeds not only hurt fellow systems but also themselves but they’re too blinded by their bigotry that they literally cant see what’s right fucking in front of their faces.
i love getting into anti endo fyp just to see how stupid and closedminded people can be. is this supposed to be satire? there's no way someone can actually say this stuff with a straight face lmfao
saw someone saying in their tags "all my homies hate endos" well fuck you then! i don't want to be near your "homies" <3
saw a post that was like "oh fuck help me i'm in endo land please antiendos interact" see, it's funny cause i saw the exact same post in the endogenic side of things with the roles flipped! how curious
saw an originclaim post that had the most hostile antiendo stuff for no reason saying endos apparently can't use simplyplural or anything like that? strange! then what's my simplyplural account doing? better go shut it down!
this stuff just doesn't even affect me anymore i just block any post that has "anti endo" in the tags. though it has gotten me slightly on edge when i look at the tags of a pro endo post and see "anti endo dni" (like on this post) cause my mind filters out "dni" for a second
anyways, if you're aggressively anti endo and you interact with this post, fuck you! endogenic systems can be systems without trauma! let people be who they be and i'll let you be you as well, but as long as you oppose me about it, you're going straight to my blocked list. and if this ends up on systemcringe, hiiiiiiiii! :3
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this this this!!!
i do believe that a LOT of anti-endos are probably just young people who are misinformed or older people who were given inaccurate information from medical professionals, or singlets who take everything at face value and don’t bother to go deeper than what’s online.
BUT if they’re not going to listen or care about us, it’s not our fucking job to teach them. if they want to be stuck in those echo chambers then thats their problem and their choice. i will not be held responsible for their misery, and i will not tolerate their shit because they can’t be assed to do a single bit of research or even just ASK an endo about their experiences in a non-judgemental, calm and open-minded way.
many self-proclaimed anti-endos are misinformed/unaware on what it means to be a system and the damage that they're doing by being a part of that community.
HOWEVER
it is not my job to inform/re-educate any of them, and it will never be my job. i don't owe anyone an educational panel, especially those who refuse to listen to reason.
#pluralgang#pro endogenic#plurality#plural community#endogenic safe#endo friendly#endo system#endogenic system#plural system
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Ask us questions!! We’re so bored 😭
System Ask Game
🌕 - If Your System Has A Name, What Is The Story Behind It?
🌔 - Do you Have Any Nonhuman Or Human Adjacent Headmates? Any That Are A Unique/Non-Typical Species?
🌓 - What Is The Most Unique Name A Headmate In Your System Has?
🌑- Does Anyone In Your System Have Food Preferences That Differ Greatly From Others In Your System?
⭐️ - Who Is The Most Social?
💫 - Does Anyone Celebrate A Birthday Different From The Body's Birthday?
✨️ - Who Is The "Problem Child" Of Your System? (Not Necessarily In A Negative Way)
🔭 - Anyone With A "Non-Typical" Role?
🚀 - Are There Any Headmates With Wildly Differing Interests From The Rest Of The System?
☄️ - Do You Have Any Alt Headmates? (Emo,Goth,Etc)
🌍 - Do You Have Any Introjects From Obscure Sources? (Not Including Oc-tives)
🪐 - What Is The Age Of Your Oldest Headmate? The Youngest?
🌙 - What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing Your System Has Argued Over?
👽 - The Strangest,Most Off Putting,Or Silliest Thing A Headmate Has Said?
🌌 - Is There A Headmate Who Likes To Play Pranks On The Rest Of The System?
🌠 - Who Is The Most Noticeable When Fronting?
🛰 - What Is The Strangest Way You've Discovered A Headmate?
🌝 - What Is The Strangest Purchase Someone In The System Has Made?
#system ask game#plural ask game#plural asks#system asks#plural system#plural#plurality#endo safe#system#actually plural
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i refuse to believe anyone with “endos dni!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” in their tiktok bio or tumblr intro is older than 13
it’s literally not that deep guys. it truly isn’t that deep and when you’re an adult you’ll figure that out
like… just ignore us if you’re triggered that easily? or better yet get out of the plural tags because you KNOW that’s where we are
#plural system#pluralgang#actually plural#endo friendly#plurality#plural community#endo safe#system stuff#endo system#endogenic
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maybe i’ll get flamed for this but i fully agree. as a society we care entirely too much about what people think about themselves. it’s none of my business if someone wants my bpd or my plural experience. i could not care less? it baffles me that people actually care about that
i love seeing anti transabled/any transid really people cuz like. literally why do you care so much
who gives a shit if someone wants bpd or whatever that literally harms nobody!!!
transabled/transneuro people ilysm <3
-a cisnpd/bpd and cisplural :3
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when ur sysmates are watching your daydreams in the background and you finally notice them;
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Evidence for plurality outside of DID is NOT hard to come across.
The existence of multiple selves in normality, spirtuality and also in other disorders that arent just DID are pretty well studied. Here are a few sources that I found just today and im sure by reading these texts yourself and by following up on the references cited within them, you can find even more evidence. btw, definitely do not use z-library or sci-hub to access these sources if they are paywalled.. thatd be just awful...
On Multiple Selves, By David Lester This book is fantastic for talking about plurality not just in DID but in many different situations. It mentions the theories of dozens of psychologists which include the experience plurality-- not just in DID or pathology --showing that this subject IS well studied. A lot of these experiences and theories are remarkably similar to what endogenic systems commonly purport online as I will show in screenshots below. Even though there are screenshots i implore you to access this resource yourself, it's great and has so many different viewpoints on this subject.
Handbook of psychiatric measures (2nd edition., pages 587–599). by American Psychiatric Publishing, Inc. Description: This resource is specifically on psychiatric measurement tools and diagnostic tools, but mentions DID and non pathological forms of plurality briefly. note "e.g." means EXAMPLE not the only possible experience of non-pathological dissociation.
Moreira-Almeida A, Neto FL, Cardeña E. Comparison of brazilian spiritist mediumship and dissociative identity disorder. J Nerv Ment Dis. 2008 Description: Studies about mediumship and a comparsion to those with DID, note that mediumship is being studied as a psychological dissociative phenomenon here and not particularly as a solely religious one, they are considering psychological explainations & factors. It is stated literally "there is empirical evidence that nonpathologic dissociative and mediumistic states have occured throughout history and in most societies". Though mediumship is often a spiritual experience I think the underlying psychological causes can be studied and equated to non-pathological/non-traumagenic plurality.
Lewis-Fernández, R. (1998). A cultural critique of the DSM-IV dissociative disorders section. Transcultural Psychiatry, 35(3), 387–400. Description: Addresses concerns that the DSM-IV criteria for DID does not properly address non-pathological dissociation considered a part of normality in many cultures. Here it mentions that in some cultures dissociation in rituals and practices is normal and not pathological. I believe that this same view could also be applied to types of western endogenic plurality, as these also could be influenced by cultural factors as a form of dissociation that is not pathological. I would like to see more research specifically into western endogenic plurality!
If you want papers directly stating "Endogenic plurality is real & DID isnt the only way to experience it" there just probably isnt any. I dont think many of these researcher even know of online communities and our terms, but there is LOTS of research into plurality outside of DID & pathology, you just have to look for it and fit it to your use-case. A lot of these are talking about spiritual and cultural experiences, this doesnt mean they arent real or arent based on underlying actual psychological experience, and most these studies/articles are specifically focusing on the psychological aspect. Mediumship is a common example of non-pathological dissociative experience, mainly because its more known and well studied, but I believe studies on western endogenic plurality would likely have similar studies. Nonetheless it does confirm that non-pathological & non-traumagenic dissociative experiences have led to plurality-like experiences, at least in some cultures around the world.
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We’re pro-endo because when we started questioning our plurality for the second time (first is irrelevant), we first started questioning in anti-endo spaces. We would explain our experiences and be told that it wasn’t possible, doesn’t mean we’re plural, that it’s something else we should definitely go to the doctor for, or even that we’re faking. It wasn’t for another 4 years that we found pro-endo spaces, talked about what we were experiencing, and told that we may be plural.
Pro-endo spaces helped us discover we’re traumagenic and have a CDD.
If it weren’t for the acceptance of pro-endogenic systems, we would have never found out we were traumagenic and had a CDD, even though our system is a little unconventional.
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My imposter syndrome for diagnosed DID went away when my answer for "Oh God what if I'm faking what if I'm just so mentally ill and making it all up?" Became "If I think I'm plural I can just... Be plural. No prerequisites, no trauma needed. I can just be comfortable with what's going on in my head."
Thank you endo systems ❤️
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Genuinely there’s nothing we love more than seeing an anti-endo or sysmed change how they view endos. Like it CAN happen, not everyone hates us for existing
Youuu know what? I'd like to thank Tumblr for making me pro endogenic. Thankyou everyone who helped me change my beliefs about systems. Its truly wonderful to know what its like to be pro endo for over a year now.
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