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I don't think people truly understand the gravity of Rafah being bombed.

There is nowhere left to go.

The lowest cost is $5,000 USD to flee to Egypt. There has been people paying over $10,000 USD.

That is the only option

Pay or die.

Rafah was the only place in Palestine promised not to be bombed. That promise is broken.

1.5 million people have nowhere to go!

Reminder, if possible, please donate to the PCRF, ANERA, Islamic Relief, Palestine Red Crescent Society, Medical Aid for Palestinians, Defense for Children International - Palestine, Doctors Without Borders, and all other trusted organizations.

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@library-bat-girl

Yeah! I was considering writing about this and kinda included it in my tags, after all plants are considered living as well.

Animals felt a little more dramatic given WE are animals so it feels more freaky but yeah the fact that plants are alive and it’s considered the merciful option of food is weird to them.

Consider them contemplating the fact that we mow grass just to have pretty lawns, or those bonsai trees that we constantly clip and cut to keep tiny and cute, which from their perspective is just us mutilating this poor plant for no other reason than aesthetic. They view it as some fucked up “I have no mouth but I must scream” thing but plants are considered so beneath us that we don’t even notice. You know that one fact that went around for a while that the smell of freshly cut grass is basically the chemical equivalent of a scream? YEAH. Not helping our case that a ton of people say they love that smell.

The fact that some plants even have defense mechanisms SPECIFICALLY to prevent being eaten (thorns, poison, spiciness) and we go “ha! Nice try but we LOVE spicy stuff and being micro poisoned. In fact we’re going to selectively breed you to make those defense mechanisms stronger to the point that there’s nothing more to you because we like it so much”

Like. What the fuck. That’d be like us selectively breeding pigs to have tusks again bcuz we like the challenge of it trying to stab us as we eat. So yeah plants are only slightly less freaky to them cuz they show far less signs of emotion or potentially being sentient but it’s still fucking crazy to them.

Tbh I almost wanna write a drabble or something about the bots trying to ignore the unsettling aspects of this until they get temporarily turned human. What would they do?? If eating plants seem almost as bad as animals then what are they supposed to eat? That would be a really screwed up horror story from their perspective.

I’m back with more slightly disturbing thoughts about transformers.

Ok listen.

I think cybertronians should be more freaked out by the fact humans eat other living things.

Like come on, bots only ingest energon which is inanimate crystal juice, they’re regularly grossed out by normal organic functions, and you’re telling me they don’t bat at eye at the idea of their friendly little Sentient companions straight up killing other animals and eating them??? I feel like that should def cause more cognitive dissonance for them, esp autobots since they actually get close to humans.

Like I can see them being grossed out but accepting of the fact that wild animals eat each other- they are WILD animals and all, not exactly sentient or even necessarily intelligent after all. But HUMANS? The organic creatures that are the closest to them (going by tfp standards where they don’t mention many other organic species) in terms of structure and emotion and intelligence?? That has to be concerning on some level to them.

Referencing tfp and MTMTE where they have scraplets and sparkeaters, i feel like that’s what they’d kind of associate it with which would freak them out more. God forbid they hear about how common cannibalism is in survival situations, I don’t even know if they’d be able to sympathize the slightest bit with that considering as far as I know cannibalism Isn’t Really A Thing for them. That’s a thought in of itself tbh, would they be able to reckon with the concept of being so hungry you’d eat people you know, when it’s physically impossible for them to do that? How do you rationalize the choices others make in desperate situations when you know you’d never have to make that choice anyway and you’ll never have their perspective on it?

Anyways, I’m entertained by the idea of them being able to ignore stuff like nuggets or patties considering it doesn’t look recognizable as what it is but being downright repulsed by steaks, especially if its bloody or has bone visible. They don’t like the visual reminders of their sweet little organic friends consuming flesh and blood. Too freaky for them.

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Those optics…

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YES! Ok so this is something I thought of but i was getting too ramble-y already so I cut it off- they do technically have instances of this in the comics, at least of bots drinking each others energon as far I know, BUT BUT BUT! That’s not quite the same as Eating someone Y’know? Like vampires as a concept would be freaky to them cuz it reminds them of the closest thing they have to cannibalism, but it’s not truly the same.

Im talking about the fact that we DEVOUR creatures. Skin, muscles, organs, and blood. ALL OF IT, except for bones and even then we can scrape out the marrow for flavor or boil them to make broth. I recall accounts of the Donner party and how all that was left of some of them was their blackened bone fragments left in the bottom of a pot, or the picture of the survivors of a plane crash in the mountains- they’re smiling in the photo but if you look in the bottom right corner you can spot the spine of the pilot scraped clean of meat. This isn’t to demonize the practice, when it’s life or death and you’re starving shit happens, this is just to say Humans can and WILL consume until nothing is left. Bots even at their most desperate could never achieve that even if they wanted to.

They literally are not PHYSICALLY capable of ingesting the frame, cables, or organs of bots, it’s just not how they were built. I mean seriously, imagine the most unhinged bot you can think of, probably overlord, and imagine him trying to chew a panel he ripped off a corpse or trying to eat t-cog with a fork and knife. I’m not saying he wouldn’t want to, primus only knows he would love some messed up shit like that, but like. He could only ever try.

I just think that’s pretty damn interesting. Especially when you see them interact with the few things that can consume them, (scraplets/sparkeaters/dark energon zombies) and they’re TERRIFIED. I mean, Fair, but it really shows how far up in the proverbial food chain they feel they are. They never have to fear something else eating them like we do so when something like that does exist it creates pure terror for them.

I love making the comparisons between bots anatomy and humans, I adore how their sparks are the physical embodiment of what we would consider our heart and soul, the pinnacle of who and what we are, and the way after a time on earth the bots would come to know “Heart” as the closest thing we can give to their spark. And how the dread boils in them when they learn that heart of cow isn’t exactly rare in rural areas. Perhaps they aren’t quite the same as us, but still… are humans not animals themselves? Yes, perhaps in more ways than we like to acknowledge by their account.

I’m back with more slightly disturbing thoughts about transformers.

Ok listen.

I think cybertronians should be more freaked out by the fact humans eat other living things.

Like come on, bots only ingest energon which is inanimate crystal juice, they’re regularly grossed out by normal organic functions, and you’re telling me they don’t bat at eye at the idea of their friendly little Sentient companions straight up killing other animals and eating them??? I feel like that should def cause more cognitive dissonance for them, esp autobots since they actually get close to humans.

Like I can see them being grossed out but accepting of the fact that wild animals eat each other- they are WILD animals and all, not exactly sentient or even necessarily intelligent after all. But HUMANS? The organic creatures that are the closest to them (going by tfp standards where they don’t mention many other organic species) in terms of structure and emotion and intelligence?? That has to be concerning on some level to them.

Referencing tfp and MTMTE where they have scraplets and sparkeaters, i feel like that’s what they’d kind of associate it with which would freak them out more. God forbid they hear about how common cannibalism is in survival situations, I don’t even know if they’d be able to sympathize the slightest bit with that considering as far as I know cannibalism Isn’t Really A Thing for them. That’s a thought in of itself tbh, would they be able to reckon with the concept of being so hungry you’d eat people you know, when it’s physically impossible for them to do that? How do you rationalize the choices others make in desperate situations when you know you’d never have to make that choice anyway and you’ll never have their perspective on it?

Anyways, I’m entertained by the idea of them being able to ignore stuff like nuggets or patties considering it doesn’t look recognizable as what it is but being downright repulsed by steaks, especially if its bloody or has bone visible. They don’t like the visual reminders of their sweet little organic friends consuming flesh and blood. Too freaky for them.

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Hi I’m back again, inspired both by the resurgence of mlp infection horror on tiktok and also the fact that I myself am quickly becoming deliriously sick

What’s the vibe on a TFP zombie apocalypse au?

I’m pretty sure it’s actually been done before but hell if I can find it, if anyone has quality recommendations put it in the replies or reblog and I’ll check it out after I have a quick fever nap 👍

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I’m back with more slightly disturbing thoughts about transformers.

Ok listen.

I think cybertronians should be more freaked out by the fact humans eat other living things.

Like come on, bots only ingest energon which is inanimate crystal juice, they’re regularly grossed out by normal organic functions, and you’re telling me they don’t bat at eye at the idea of their friendly little Sentient companions straight up killing other animals and eating them??? I feel like that should def cause more cognitive dissonance for them, esp autobots since they actually get close to humans.

Like I can see them being grossed out but accepting of the fact that wild animals eat each other- they are WILD animals and all, not exactly sentient or even necessarily intelligent after all. But HUMANS? The organic creatures that are the closest to them (going by tfp standards where they don’t mention many other organic species) in terms of structure and emotion and intelligence?? That has to be concerning on some level to them.

Referencing tfp and MTMTE where they have scraplets and sparkeaters, i feel like that’s what they’d kind of associate it with which would freak them out more. God forbid they hear about how common cannibalism is in survival situations, I don’t even know if they’d be able to sympathize the slightest bit with that considering as far as I know cannibalism Isn’t Really A Thing for them. That’s a thought in of itself tbh, would they be able to reckon with the concept of being so hungry you’d eat people you know, when it’s physically impossible for them to do that? How do you rationalize the choices others make in desperate situations when you know you’d never have to make that choice anyway and you’ll never have their perspective on it?

Anyways, I’m entertained by the idea of them being able to ignore stuff like nuggets or patties considering it doesn’t look recognizable as what it is but being downright repulsed by steaks, especially if its bloody or has bone visible. They don’t like the visual reminders of their sweet little organic friends consuming flesh and blood. Too freaky for them.

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On the subject of humanformers content, I think my hottest take for the transformers community as a whole (that I can think of) is that I… I really don’t think the fanon long braid hairstyle suits ratchet. I KNOW ITS PRETTY IM SORRY BUT HE JUST DOESNT SEEM LIKE THE TYPE TO BRAID HIS HAIR OR GROW IT LONG TO BEGIN WITH.

Ok so theres two particular cases I wanna talk about with this, cuz I think it’s popular enough that’s it’s spread to pretty much every continuity. First I’d like to make an exception- I’m willing to believe MTMTE ratchet wears his hair long or at least longer than most continuities. I’m also willing to believe, nay, INSIST that drift braids it all pretty like and ratchet lets him. This is the one exception I can think of.

Second of all, I need to address TFP ratchet, considering I’m pretty sure this is where that design came from in the first place, and is certainly where it’s the most popular. Ironically, this is the version of him I can LEAST imagine ever putting in the effort for a braid.

Listen okay, that man is STARVING himself due to lack of energon + being focused on the rest of the team, and is basically never seen not working on something. I guarantee you if he were human he wouldn’t have these luscious, flowing, L’Oreal commercial locks in a nice little French/dutch braid. I know y’all love pretty ratchet but I think we need to accept that he’s horrible at self care and would have rough cropped hair and a scruffy short beard or stubble, that man is having a ROUGH time and he ain’t got time for braids or even brushing long ass hair. Not to mention he doesn’t want it getting caught on anything in his lab or god forbid the battlefield.

I saw some fanart for a different character recently on tiktok that actually looked pretty damn close to what I imagined him like (though still perhaps with a darker skin tone like most of the fanon depictions, but the hair and face are pretty close)

Original artist is awwlba on twitter and Instagram

This is all in good fun though, I do adore all the fanart of him with his braid I just can’t imagine him realistically wearing it in a time of war. As always everyone’s entitled to their opinions and hell, I recognize I’m in the minority here 💀 all just to clarify I’m not actually trying to start a hc war, if anyone’s got any other interesting ideas for him lemme know in the replies!

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Ok so, a thought. I love love love humanformers au stuff but also I can’t ever make the concept work in my head. Like it’s great when they get to struggle with being human for a bit and get to change back but like. How? Never mind the distinction between magic and science when somehow making them organic, I just wanna know where the heck all that mass goes! I’d love to just ignore that but my brain is a killjoy when it comes to stuff like this.

Fortunately I have a compromise. What if instead of actually transforming their entire bodies into humans, it’s more like they got stuck in holoform mode. Like their bodies are still right there in vehicle mode but now their consciousness is fully transferred into their holoforms until they can reverse it, so they still get at least most of the experiences of being human other than eating or going to the bathroom. It’s not quite as interesting as them being truly human but for anyone who’s a stick in the mud about logic like me with stuff like this, it’s a pretty good substitute.

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Just occurred to me that cybertronians would probably find the concept of toes to be weird and potentially disturbing. Hm.

I don’t have anything to make out of this, I just think it’s funny for them to be very concerned and grossed out by the thought of humans growing malformed digits off their pedes for seemingly no reason (they don’t get that it helps our balance)

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THIS THIS THIS THIS

I LOVE exploring Ratchets medical takes on humanity and how his naturally grumpy demeanor becomes more agitated and worried the more he learns about how fragile and odd our biology is.

I think it’s mostly just that I like forcing him to confront how much he cares about those close to him, especially the ones he gripes about most (i.e. the kids) but genuinely also human biology is FUCKED and i think it’s funny for that old man to develop an ulcer over every new Fun Fact he learns about how our bodies try to kill us at every turn.

After the dark energon debacle ratchet decides to study what exactly are things that can kill humans, so as to make sure that doesn't happen. He discovers the answer is pretty much everything, including the very oxygen we need to breathe and stuff. I envision quite the rant!

jkasdklas oh man Ratchet doing actual indepth research on the human body would cause him to start openly day drinking ok.

not just bc of how we discovered some of this shit we know, but also the fact that our bodies are a hot heaping mess of fucked up evolution and adaptations.

our anxiety was meant for when life was lived super fast and we had to always be on the look out for A Hungry Animal. some of us have a different sleep rhythm that means we don’t sleep when we’re supposed to at night bc their ancestors were the Night Watch.

everything can kill us and most of us still actively partake in the thing that is harming us.

lactose intolerant people me still eat ice cream. caffeine. peanuts.

some people do extreme sports where if one things goes wrong your dead.

other people SWIM WITH DEADLY SEA CREATURES. FOR FUN.

there’s organs inside us that can actively harm us, we can lose up to like, 60% of our liver and it will grow back.

Ratchet studies what can kill us, which is practically everything on the planet, and has to be held back from actively wrapping the kids in bubble wrap and keeping them in a nice padded pen so he can keep an eye on them.

then he learns the things that humans can survive and he wants to cry.

these tiny, frail, brightly lived creatures can take so much in their lives, and come out the other side damaged and lost, but alive.

we have one of the best self repair systems on the planet for healing injuries (when it works properly).

so yeah. Ratchet freaks out when he learns the full scope of just how dangerous our lives are on the daily.

but then he’s in awe of what we do in spite of that.

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Will never forget that Rung, The Nicest Person On The Ship, woke himself from a coma specifically to (politely) tell Swerve to shut the fuck up.

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We GOTTA talk about how deadly energon is to humans- or at the very least, how deadly it is in tfp.

I’ll put it this way

Megatron took a distant potshot at bee for funsies and flew away, I don’t think he was even really attempting to kill him or at least he wasn’t putting any real effort in. Bee walked it off easy, didn’t even receive any first aid for it since everyone was more worried about raf- but he was just fine without it, probably hurt like a bitch in the moment but no long term effects

Raf managed to absorb the barest aftermath of it through bees interior and immediately went into the beginnings of total organ failure.

As far as I can tell based off how energon works and the fact that there’s never any real residue from rogue shots, the energon is superheated into an almost plasma-like state, physical and visible when shot out but atomizes the second it makes contact with anything, transferring itself into pure energy- not to mention the apparent radiation-like after effects of a human body absorbing the energy (this at least applies to dark energon, not sure if that’s a specific thing or if all energon does it) Capable of doing damage to (and through) the armor of the bots which we’ve seen are incredibly resistant to most human weaponry.

It would absolutely MELT humans if it made direct contact.

It would act like magma and plasma wrapped in one- like magma in the initial contact point- third degree burns on the skin and muscle tissue- but since it transfers itself INTO what it hits as pure red hot energy… it’d cook you from the inside out as well- and AGAIN that’s not even mentioning the organ failure after effects

That is to say- that’s what happens if it glances you, as a regular energon shot is potentially large enough to completely engulf a human and cremate them instantaneously.

Wouldn’t that be horrifying? The bots have no idea what energon would really do to humans- only that it’s likely to be lethal, how terrifying would it be for you to get separated in a battle, and end up cornered by a con, maybe not even one of the particularly intimidating ones, it doesn’t have to be megatron or soundwave, or even starscream- it could just be some vehicon.

You end up cornered and Megatron’s marked you as one of the autobot’s human pets- to be killed on sight or perhaps taken hostage for later. The vehicon doesn’t see himself getting away while carrying you so he chooses the easier option, termination.

They hear a distant yell from you and the charge of a canon- and then there’s a flash and you’re gone.

Not even a body. Perhaps some ashes or something of the like, but mainly the shadow of your existence and death painted on the wall in the form of scorch marks.

You see, while energon itself doesn’t seem to leave any residue I’ve noticed that rogue shots tend to leave scorch marks on whatever solid objects they hit if they’re durable enough to withstand the shot itself- like the ground or the walls of the nemesis or the base.

I don’t know if you’ve ever seen the pictures from things like this but the funny thing about explosions, and bursts of light in general, is that given enough intensity and an immediate background, they can and will leave silhouettes of people and objects in the aftermath.

They may not have seen you die but they can see your final moments captured in a snapshot even after everything else of you has been practically wiped from existence- the final image of you, backed against the wall with your arms over your face in a last ditch attempt at defense.

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Ok for some reason the flick idea is sticking with me so I’m gonna be drawing that. We’ll see how it turns out I guess?

Edit: PLEASE GOD HELP HOW DO YOU DRAW THESE FREAKS OF NATURE THEYRE ALL SQUARES AND RECTANGLES WHICH SHOULD MAKE IT EASIER BUT IT DOESNT IM GONNA CRY

I don’t always think people take into account the strength vs durability difference in humans and cybertronians. Like yeah, everyone can at least acknowledge that it’d be incredibly easy for them to kill us if they so chose, and most even know it’d be pretty easy to unintentionally kill us by stepping on us, but have you truly considered just how easy it would be for bots to accidentally hurt us with minor mistakes?

A human playfully flicking the helm of bots when they’re being annoying or silly, and one day an overcharged bot tries to return the favor and quite literally blows the head off the human with a flick. It’s just another version of Superman’s “world made of cardboard” speech, everything on this organic planet is so tiny and fragile to them- even our metal structures aren’t as durable as cybertronian metal.

The extreme cases (as mentioned above) our often brought up but what about the small cases where nobody dies or is even fatally wounded but a just tiny movement leads to an injury? A bot playfully poking their charge and giving them a concussion or a bloody nose, or even a light tap to guide them away from a drop off that sends them flying onto their back a few feet away.

People account for slip ups that might make them hit human with full force or weight, which obviously will kill them, but what about the fact that even when they move slowly and carefully they’re still a few tons of hulking metal made to destroy things? Momentum and strength are somewhat relative to the perspective of size- to them they’ve made a small idle movement, only readjusted their pose, but to the human sitting on their shoulder who’s 1/8 their size, the entire World just tilted. A cybertronians sprinting speed would seem like a roller coaster to the poor person in their grip.

You bring that momentum difference into direct contact? Yeah, you’re gonna have some issues. The amount of whiplash cases Ratchet has to deal with because the bots haven’t learned to come to a complete stop before Carefully and Slowly picking their charge up… he’s gonna have a rage fueled aneurysm one of these days.

Imagine some poor speedster trying to save their human friend from the line of fire by snatching them out of the way, running and dodging as fast as possible to get them to safety, finally stopping and looking down in confusion at the limp body with an oddly angled neck 😬

Ratchets gonna have to start handing out human safety packets about about how to handle us without. Y’know. Killing us. No wonder he wants to get the hell off earth as soon as possible 💀

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I don’t always think people take into account the strength vs durability difference in humans and cybertronians. Like yeah, everyone can at least acknowledge that it’d be incredibly easy for them to kill us if they so chose, and most even know it’d be pretty easy to unintentionally kill us by stepping on us, but have you truly considered just how easy it would be for bots to accidentally hurt us with minor mistakes?

A human playfully flicking the helm of bots when they’re being annoying or silly, and one day an overcharged bot tries to return the favor and quite literally blows the head off the human with a flick. It’s just another version of Superman’s “world made of cardboard” speech, everything on this organic planet is so tiny and fragile to them- even our metal structures aren’t as durable as cybertronian metal.

The extreme cases (as mentioned above) are often brought up but what about the small cases where nobody dies or is even fatally wounded but a just tiny movement leads to an injury? A bot playfully poking their charge and giving them a concussion or a bloody nose, or even a light tap to guide them away from a drop off that sends them flying onto their back a few feet away.

People account for slip ups that might make them hit human with full force or weight, which obviously will kill them, but what about the fact that even when they move slowly and carefully they’re still a few tons of hulking metal made to destroy things? Momentum and strength are somewhat relative to the perspective of size- to them they’ve made a small idle movement, only readjusted their pose, but to the human sitting on their shoulder who’s 1/10 their size, the entire World just tilted. A cybertronians sprinting speed would seem like a roller coaster to the poor person in their grip.

You bring that momentum difference into direct contact? Yeah, you’re gonna have some issues. The amount of whiplash cases Ratchet has to deal with because the bots haven’t learned to come to a complete stop before Carefully and Slowly picking their charge up… he’s gonna have a rage fueled aneurysm one of these days.

Imagine some poor speedster trying to save their human friend from the line of fire by snatching them out of the way, running and dodging as fast as possible to get them to safety, finally stopping and looking down in confusion at the limp body with an oddly angled neck 😬

Ratchets gonna have to start handing out human safety packets about about how to handle us without. Y’know. Killing us. No wonder he wants to get the hell off earth as soon as possible 💀

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Okay another transformers concept rant

Hear me out. Can Cybertronians actually get stronger?

Now I know what you’re gonna say, “well yeah of course that’s why they train and do battle exercises-“ No, you’re not thinking hard enough, can they get Stronger? Like can they physically increase the amount of weight they can lift? Human’s and animal’s method of gaining strength is by tearing muscle fibers which regrow and increase, doing so repeatedly means more muscle mass and therefore strength.

Cybertronians don’t have muscles. I don’t believe their cables or whatever serves as their muscle equivalent works the same way as ours do. Machines don’t get stronger unless they’re upgraded with different parts (cough cough Optimus) and generally only have the capacity load that they are built to withstand. What if Cybertronians never really get stronger like we do? They can upgrade themselves sure but they can’t build that strength from training or exercising naturally- which of course leads to questioning why they would even bother training.

Simply put, most of their training is built around gaining battle strategy and agility. They may not gain raw strength but that only makes speed more important- you can’t get any stronger but neither can your opponent, pure capacity load difference matters a little less if only one of you can dodge shots as fast as you fire them.

There’s also the matter that while they can’t gain power, they can certainly lose it if they’re not careful. Machinery is more likely to break down or function slower when finally put to use after periods of neglect and Cybertronians function much the same way. If they want to keep themselves in their prime then they need to continue exercising, kind of like stretching to make sure you don’t pull something.

Just thought it would be cool if the moment they’re made they have a set limit of strength, which makes every bit of battle experience and agility mean that much more in every fight, especially for smaller bots who are generally automatically at a disadvantage.

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Hey can we talk about how megatron has a fusion canon in most continuities? Okay so, question, What exactly is it fusing?? Is it nuclear fusion??? HAS HE BEEN IRRADIATING EVERYONE???? Pretty sure cybertronians aren’t affected by radiation, at least not by small amounts like humans, so is he even aware of what he’s doing or is it considered not a big deal??

This question goes DOUBLE for earthspark megatron considering he spends lots of time around humans and actually, Y’know, cares about them. Like I’m aware that no matter what the answer is space crack tfp Megatron wouldn’t give a shit but this one is actually trying to be a good person soooo.

I’m a little concerned for dot and the kids 😭 I mean would he even know he’s potentially harming them? If cybertronians aren’t harmed by radiation then they probably don’t think about it at all and haven’t even considered it might affecting the humans. Seriously has ANYONE considered he might be toting around an unshielded nuclear reactor on his ARM this entire time??

THIS IS A LEGIT QUESTION BTW I ACTUALLY HAVE NO IDEA HOW HIS CANON WORKS, if you know pls teach me 🙏 I just saw fusion and was like “?? U mean NUCLEAR fusion??” Its a total guess I just couldn’t think of what else it would mean 😭

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I want the human/cybertronian life difference to be talked about more in canon

Cuz I mean. it’s RIGHT THERE.

Just a smidgen of true acknowledgment I BEG YOU HASBRO‼️

i mean come on all it takes is someone mentioning how long the wars been going for one of the humans to go “4 MILLION YEARS???? WHAT THE FUCK HOW OLD ARE YOU???”

And optimus or ratchet to be like “…5/7 million?” And all of the humans to have a break down CUZ WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOUVE BEEN ALIVE SINCE BEFORE THE HUMAN SPECIES EXISTED??? WE WERE MONKEYS WHEN YOU WERE BORN???

And the (woefully uniformed) cybertronians to be like “??? What do YOU mean your species was still evolving when I onlined, how long do you guys live?? A thousand?? A few hundred??”

And the gobsmacked humans to be like “??? NO WE HARDLY LIVE OVER A HUNDRED ITS CONSIDERED AN ACCOMPLISHMENT?? AVERAGE OLD AGE DEATH IS LIKE MID 80s!! TECHNICALLY THE AVERAGE LIFE SPAN IS 72 OR SOMETHING???”

Cue the autobots being like “😨 72??? THATS A CHILD WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT⁉️”

the more attached/emotional bots looking at their charges and realizing that not only are they sparklings compared to them but they’ll die as sparklings too in just a few decades, causing them to straight up have a mini meltdown.

Yeah they’re in a war and they’ve lost plenty of friends, but never to anything as predictable and inescapable as old age.

It’s the seeing-it-coming part that gets to them, the slow dread of knowing that even if they do everything right and keep them out of danger and they stay healthy there’s nothing they can do to stop them from withering away in a couple of decades.

Most versions of bumblebee looking at their charge/friend and realizing his assumptions about the fact that since they’re both still young that they’ll have plenty of time to just. Live together and have fun- are wrong?? Immediately tears. Even if cybertronians can’t cry tears he’s doing whatever the equivalent is and running away to cry in his room. And then running back to snatch them and take them with him cuz HE CANT WASTE A SECOND IF THEIR LIFESPANS ARE REALLY THAT SHORT HES GONNA JUST HAVE TO SPEND 24/7 WITH THEM

This whole concept ESPECIALLY applies to TFP since all of them got their own little human buddy and there’s only like 5 autobots to begin with (of the main season 1 crew) they’ve lost so many of their own so recently, their numbers are already dwindling down to nothing, they’re losing the war and the kids are what’s given them a major morale boost. To continue fighting they need hope, and the kids have kind of become their hope for the future- to know they’ll die off in under a century despite how young they still are is a shot to the spark.

Look me in the eye and tell me bee wouldnt panic hearing that Raf only has 70-80 years to live. LOOK ME IN THE EYE AND TELL ME HE WOULDNT HAVE SOME KIND OF FIT OVER BEING TOLD THAT HIS LITTLE BUDDY (from a cybertronian perspective) HAS A LIFESPAN EQUIVALENT TO A LATE STAGE TERMINAL ILLNESS DIAGNOSIS. Bee would start treating Raf like a kid with stage 4 cancer 😭

I just KNOW bulkhead would have the worst reaction other than bee, maybe even worse cuz he looks at miko and realizes she’s used up basically a fifth of her entire lifespan already and she’s Still So Little and straight up starts weeping. That’s his DAUGHTER you can’t take her from him so soon it’s not FAIR! He might have to go destroy a canyon wall or something to let some of the anger and grief out

Arcee is Not taking it well either.

She JUST got attached to this one, just got used to a new partner and your telling her that no matter what she does he’s never going to last as long as tailgate of cliff jumper did?? Even if both he and she do everything they’re supposed to do to protect him and extended his life?? Depression time baby

Optimus and ratchet don’t react as much outwardly to the news as the others but inside they’re both 💔💥

These kids have brought optimus a level of contentment he hasn’t felt in vorns, and he sees how bright their spirits shine- Only to now know those precious spirits will burn out in less than a century- it gnaws at him inside, yet another strike from the cruelty of fate

Ratchet is devastated but refuses to acknowledge it, these kids- yes even miko- have become his pseudo grandkids and he’s not ready, nor will he ever be ready, to outlive them. Jacks reminds him too much of a younger optimus, still learning and still hopeful. Miko is… well she has a fire to her that ratchet can appreciate (when she’s not actively annoying him) she’s determined enough to make anything happen which he does begrudgingly respect even if he wishes she wouldn’t just throw herself into any and every situation just for fun.

And Raf…

Raf is his apprentice, the only one of the kids to understand him and listen intently to his stories of cybertron. To show appreciation for his work and his ideas, to Listen and Learn and Improve his inventions. He harbors the most fondness for Raf since he sees so much potential in him, and has taken him under his wing in teaching him cybertronian language and biology.

He feels almost like he’s training a student to take his place- only for the ground to be ripped out from under him to know that Raf will never have the chance to succeed him, will never even outlive him.

A parent should never have to bury their child, and ratchet already feels that he has.

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TLDR the autobots find out humans have fruit fly lifespans next to them and become one big soggy mess of tears, optimus and ratchet included although they try to have a stiff upper lip about it (and fail to varying extents)

I swear this was supposed to be about any and all continuities but TFP took over completely😭 idk it just fits the best since they focus so much on how attached the bots get to the kids

Edit: btw this was inspired from the fact I found out that the cybertronian equivalent to a year (yes I know technically they have solar cycles which are roughly a human year but what they consider a year vs their lifespan/time perception is different) is a vorn. A vorn is 80 HUMAN YEARS. I saw that and went “oh wow a vorn is like a whole human lifespan!😃” and then I went “OH A VORN IS A WHOLE HUMAN LIFESPAN 😀“