shunyakun

[shunyakun]

i also really appreciate what you're willing to talk about this theme too! it's rare to see someone actually listening and having a civil conversation xd. no matter if we share different points of views you are very cool!

also i think what not letting transgender women in female sports is basically common sense. i quite often get accused by transphobia by saying it's absolutely impossible to deny what transgender women have a benefit in completing in female sports. biological advantage exists

i agree that internal struggles—whether gender-related, religious, or rooted in misogyny—deserve therapy and a lot of it, not automatic legal changes. but gender identity isn’t just "negative feelings about your sex." major medical groups (like the American Medical Association) classify gender dysphoria as a legitimate medical condition, not a choice or delusion. therapy is part of treatment, but for many, social/legal recognition (e.g., correct IDs, facilities) reduces suicide risk. going to biological sex bathroom doesn't make it safer for anyone ( IF the person is passing as a cis one and had a medical transition. i don't think what bearded men who proclaim to be trans should be there ). i saw a lot of cases when cisgender women who don't look entirely feminine were getting kicked out / harassed for using the female's bathroom. in my opinion this is going too far when people accuse everyone who aren't stereotypical feminine women to be transgender. it doesn't make the situation any better, it makes it even worse

"Transgender people cannot safely use the bathroom of the gender they were assigned at birth just because the law requires them to. Trans people are routinely subjected to harassment and assault in bathrooms. Sixty-eight percent of trans people have been verbally harassed and 9% have been physically assaulted when using a public restroom in the past 12 months. And sadly, 8% of trans people have faced a kidney or urinary tract infection from having to avoid restrooms for their safety. In addition to being discriminatory, bathroom bans are bad for our health!"

source

studies which i've seen ( please, if I'm wrong or you have other information – tell me ) show no increase in assaults or privacy violations in places with trans-inclusive policies. for example:

- massachusetts has protected trans bathroom access for years with no rise in incidents [ source ]

- trans people are 4 times more likely to face violent crime, including in bathrooms. forcing a trans woman into a men’s room puts her at risk too [ source ]

abot the crime rates. UK data you've most likely reffering to is often misused. it studied pre-transition transgender inmates (many not living as women) in men’s prisons. It doesn’t reflect post-transition trans women in society. Broadly labeling trans women as "dangerous as men" ignores that most sexual violence is committed by acquaintances, not strangers in bathrooms [ source ] and the fact what trans women in women’s prisons are rare; when housed properly, there’s no evidence they’re a threat [ source ] ( may have not too much information on that but everything I've seen doesn't prove this one wrong )

i also tend to agree that dedicated gender-neutral options (e.g., single-stall bathrooms) benefit everyone—trans people, disabled folks, parents with kids. i've always through of this as a VERY good idea

safety in female spaces requires case-by-case assessments—not blanket policies

you’re right that women’s comfort matters. but trans-inclusive policies don’t erase single-sex spaces; they ensure all women (cis and trans) can live safely. i think what making transgender bathrooms will be way better however the government doesn't think about this as it should. single-sex spaces should exist and cisgender women's comfort matters the same as the trangender ones. however when trangender women get into male restrooms they are also at the risk of danger.

if they present as female and FULLY pass with surgeries i would think it is dangerous for them to go into male's restroom

They blocked me after this. This is the point I get when asking most trans advocates and then they block me. If you truly believe in this stuff shouldn't you have an answer to this pretty fundamental question that anyone who wants to know more is going to ask?

[shunyakun]

oh and btw thanks for having a conversation with me and not blocking me. i like hearing something what is different from my opinion especially with arguments!! i appreciate that

They blocked me after this. This is the point I get when asking most trans advocates and then they block me. If you truly believe in this stuff shouldn't you have an answer to this pretty fundamental question that anyone who wants to know more is going to ask?

[shunyakun]

that's a good point of view! however i still don't quite agree with it

just because something is psychological and "all in your head" doesn’t mean it’s not real or legally relevant. mental health is also considered in law but it's also something what stays in your head. your personality, beliefs, emotions, memories are also "all in your head".

"medical community only supports trans people for profit." – this ignores decades of research showing that transition improves mental health. medical associations worldwide support trans care because it works, not just for money. do i think what some just do it for money? yes, there are bad people everywhere what just want to get more cash. however a lot of specialists really wish to help people. for getting diagnosed and getting surgery you need a lot of psychological treatment to understand is it really you being transgender or is it just something else

gender identity isn’t about "feeling exactly like" another sex, but about internal self-recognition. many trans people describe it as deep discomfort with their assigned sex, not just stereotypes

trans rights aren’t about "extra" status, but equal access (e.g., not being fired for being trans, using the correct bathroom IF you are passing fully and had gone through surgery. the bathroom issue about someone being in the bathroom stall of not their assigned sex at birth harms even cisgender women but that's a problem we're not discussing rn). no one is asking for special treatment, just fairness.

if a trans woman lives as a woman, excluding her from women’s spaces serves no practical purpose. many places already allow this without issues. im NOT talking about sports because biologically biological men are stronger that biological women so it won't be fair

race and culture are based on ancestry/society; gender identity is innate. a white person can’t "become" black, but sex is more complex—biology includes hormones, neurology, and lived experience, not just chromosomes. as i've said gender is much more complex that just being black or white

"what you are" isn’t just genitals at birth. If a trans woman looks, lives, and is treated as a woman, insisting she’s "male" ignores reality

They blocked me after this. This is the point I get when asking most trans advocates and then they block me. If you truly believe in this stuff shouldn't you have an answer to this pretty fundamental question that anyone who wants to know more is going to ask?

[shunyakun]

Во-первых беларусы и русня это уже синонимы поскольку вы давно дали миру понять что независимость и сохранение своей культуры т.е. национальной идентичности вас не интересует в отличии от сотрудничества з нацистами короторые убивают невинных людей

А во-вторых какой нахуй аккаунт посвященный ненависти к т-коммьюнити??? Наши аккаунты посвящены борьбе за права женщин

То что для вас это считается трансфобией много о чем говорит

И то что наши посты каким-то образом призывают совершать преступления на почве ненависти это такой очевидный проджекшн учитывая то что вы сами постоянно орете "punch terfs" а также насилуете и убиваете женщин которые вам отказывают (это про мужчин с гендерной дисфорией) в то время как ни одна радфем не убила транс человека потому что этим действительно занимаются другие мужчины

Больше аски писать не буду меня тошнит от этого языка садистов

И вам тоже советую начать любить свою культуру если вы не хотите чтобы ваша национальность прекратила существовать и полюбить себя и остальных женщин вместо того чтобы притворяться мужчиной думая что вас это спасет от мизогинии

Может когда-нибудь вы по��мете что со злом нужно бороться а не избегать его

ребята привет дружеское напоминание что в казахстане начался сущий пиздец с экономикой и прочими штуками как только они разорвали взаимоотношения с россией. с беларусью будет также. у нас никого не призывают и никакого прямого участия к войне мы не имеем, это вы привыкли воспринимать ��оссию за беларусь

борьба за права женщин – не трансфобия. возможно вы предпочитаете это игнорировать так как вам невыгодно выставлять радикальных феминисток в плохом свете, но НЕКОТОРЫЕ из них строят всю свою "помощь женщинам" на ненависти к мужчинам, трансгендерам, гетеросексуальным девушкам и вообще кому угодно кто им не нравится и кто не подходит под их картинку мира. возможно это я такой особенный, но я часто видел как радфем отправляют пожелания смерти и прочую хуйню трансам которые просто никого не трогают и радуются жизни

я не поддерживаю подобные слоганы и не считаю что нужно распространять ненависть вообще к кому либо даже если мои взгляды в корне не совпадают с каким-то человеком до того пока это не выливается в физическое и моральное насилие на почве ненависти к той или иной группе лиц.

я не транс я интерсекс если вам так интересно и мне просто нравится спорить в интернетиках летом а самые конфликтные люди это в основном радфем ( my experience guys my experience )!! меня не обижает если вы считаете меня женщиной как раз таки потому что я их люблю. думайте что угодно по поводу того пися или писюн у меня в штанах вы не поверите мне похуй на попытки меня таким образом оскорбить???

[shunyakun]

Straight girl lol

cool! is there something else about me what i don't know?

[shunyakun]

why do people disagree with me and then js ban me

i tried to reply three times in a row not realising i was blocked 😭

[shunyakun]

your gender expression is how you feel about yourself and most often, how you would like to be seen by others. gender identity is how you feel about yourself. depending on this gender identity, your gender expression changes, which is why you will be perceived differently. these are interconnected things, but they are still different concepts. gender itself is a social construct, and gender IDENTITY is how you feel about yourself

you CAN form your identity based only on stereotypes about women or men, depending on how you want to be perceived. the perception of a person as a woman or a man is still a "spectrum" (I don't know what else to call it)

a pumped-up girl going to bars and not trying to look feminine will still be perceived by people as a girl. a man with long hair doing makeup will still be perceived as a man. why? because their gender identity also corresponds to their sex. they do not try to be the opposite sex in the eyes of other people and do nothing to achieve this. their goal is different

what is the difference? many transgender people would not like to follow gender stereotypes but they have to because of their gender identity. their gender expression is doing anything to be perceived as the opposite biological sex. the examples listed above do not have this because their gender identity coincides with their biological sex and they just express themselves this way

gender identity affects your self-expression. gender is not only in your head. the expectations that are placed on men or women are also not in your head and they affect everyone's life

about the difference between identifying yourself as other race / species:

- Transgender identity: your gender doesn’t match your bodys primary and secondary sexual characteristics. science shows gender is complex and it is not just a biological structure

- Other race/species identity: race is about ancestry/culture, not how you feel. species is biological—humans can’t actually be another animal. these don’t have the same scientific backing as transgender identities. there is no such thing what would be similar to "gender" within the race or species ( I SERIOUSLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD IT PROPERLY BUT HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND )

basically, being trans is widely recognized in medicine, while the others aren’t

They blocked me after this. This is the point I get when asking most trans advocates and then they block me. If you truly believe in this stuff shouldn't you have an answer to this pretty fundamental question that anyone who wants to know more is going to ask?

[shunyakun]

Русня утверждает что феминистки которые уявлекаются играми и никого не трогают "распространяют ненависть"

Очень иронично )))

Конечно такие лицемерные чмошники как вы всегда обвиняют жертв вместо той групы которая их угнетает

Тоби Фокс также против геноцида но это не мешает тебе его поддерживать

во первых я не поддерживаю геноцид, с чего вы взяли? во вторых я беларус, а не русский, разные вещи все таки. не все, кто говорит на русском – русня

я не считаю что в любви к каким либо играм есть проблема. проблема в том, что они пытаются подогнать под себя коммьюнити неугодное их взглядам а не просто сидят там. я не обвинял никого в каких либо насильственных действиях в сторону трансгендерных людей потому что в основном это делают не женщины, а мужчины. но то, что весь аккаунт посвящен ненависти к ткоммьюнити является распостранением ненависти к ним из-за чего некоторые уже могут пойти на преступление на почве ненависти!!

[shunyakun]

hi!! you wouldn't even know about them being transgender if they fully transitioned. EVERYONE perceives them as female at the first glance. socially they're a woman

biologically – depends. but not everything is about biological sex. there is much more to the perception of you as a male or a female. if you're not sex obsessed you wouldn't even pay attention

Having fake boobs doesn’t make you a woman

[shunyakun]

it might seem crazy what im about to say about deltarune and toby fox

even the creator of the game wouldn't want you in this community for spreading hatred towards transgender people which have done basically nothing towards you :D

it’s hard being a radfem that goes to techno/edm/hyperpop events but someone’s gotta do it

[shunyakun]

gender is a socially constructed concept encompassing roles, behaviors, expressions, and identities associated with being perceived as a male or female person. it's distinct from sex, which refers to biological characteristics

gender identity is a sense of self

gender expression is how an individual presents their gender through physical appearance and communication

it is a thing with what you've surely were acknowledged with. it is not only in your head as people often perceive others as male or female by their appearance placing some expectations on them. there is a difference between believing you're a different species / race

hope i made it clear for you!

They blocked me after this. This is the point I get when asking most trans advocates and then they block me. If you truly believe in this stuff shouldn't you have an answer to this pretty fundamental question that anyone who wants to know more is going to ask?

[shunyakun]

i honestly feel bad for radical feminism as a movement because it got full of people which don't do anything but hate transgender people doing absolutely nothing for women, more likely making it even worse because now radical feminism associates with hate and not protection

i do not fully share your beliefs about BDSM however they are quite similar. and I'm sorry to hear what people shut you up because you are a radfem. понабирают всяких долбаебов короче!!!

*People sharing their real lived experience with how BDSM harmed them* This shit-for-brains moron: “BLOCK these EVIL RADICAL FEMINISTS with their EVIL BELIEFS about NOT WANTING BRAIN DAMAGE!!!”

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[shunyakun]

transwomen are women. everyone knows what a woman is

you just think of every definition which doesn't suit your beliefs as the 'wrong' one

[shunyakun]

I feel like when Menstrual huts in Nepal are brought up to support arguments, they're dismissed because Americans and Euro-centric people have no experience with this kind of discrimination. They don't understand how much it fucks with your mind to be a woman segregated from her family for having a period.

Like, I am Nepali but I was born/raised in America, so I'm pretty used to the whole "gross but not super-shunned" American mindset on periods.

Four years ago, my father remarried a very traditional Nepali woman, and with her came her family.

My step-mother soon noticed when I would be on my period, since our whole family shares one bathroom and despite how I try to hide it, it's pretty obvious what I'm doing when I go to the bathroom tons of times a day. Her family began watching me whenever I went into the kitchen, I couldn't touch anything there or else I'd 'soil' it, I couldn't get a glass of water without being watched. I was told I couldn't sit on a certain side of the couch, couldn't enter certain rooms, and could not touch my baby brother or hug my father. Because I was on my period, and I was 'impure'.

Now like, that's not even a FRACTION of what some women in Nepal actually go through. Where they are forced out into huts with no heat, little to no food or water, no cleaning supplies, and are forced to stay inside for the duration of their periods. Many times women are raped and/or assaulted during this period.

There is such a depth to women's suffering that is glossed over by the rest of the world. It took me the tiniest bit of discrimination of this type to really be able to realize "hey, this is actually TERRIFYING".

And now I can imagine how little people truly care when they hear "Menstrual Huts" in an argument, because they have no experience with or knowledge of the subject. Truly, it's made me realize how much I fear for myself, my sister, and women all over the world. It's made me realize how much our natural bodies are hated and feared and disgusted. And how men control societies so much that they can create an entire tradition where our bodies and our lives are shamed and punished.

[shunyakun]

aren't you fighting for women's safety? don't you think what women won't be safe in men's bathroom? does the desire to protect women apply only to those who share your beliefs?

or is it only about trying to harass someone?

[shunyakun]

hannigram making out passionately is something what i would never stop thinking about

[shunyakun]