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spacedlexi · 2 years
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#more biphobia today fellas :)#when i say its every day i Literally mean it#when will people stop twisting our label into like a million different things that its not#the biphobia and transphobia is off the charts#as an nb bisexial: trans and nb bisexuals get behind me#saw more twitter nonsense today but its the same conversation literally everywhere so does it really make a difference#'bi people care about whats in your pants :) hope that clarifies :)'#'bi people only care about genitalia and not personality :) hope that helps :)'#i am biting and killing you#'bi people arent attracted to nb people :) even tho a lot of bi people are trans or nb? wait what? i dont make sense :)#so many 'distinctions' i see too are like second handedly ripping on every other sexuality as well#like you have to be a specific sexuality to be attracted to trans/nb people#WHICH IS...........A BIG YIKES#like yea lets continue to make room for transphobes :) good job everyone#and people just continue to be like 'yep thats the difference and i see nothing wrong with this :)'#i just get so sad when i see young bisexuals who are so confused bc EVERYONE is confused. for no reason#bc yall keep changing our definition without listening to us#babe stop youre scaring the bisexuals#it speaks#i really dont want to keep talking about this stuff it makes me so sad and im sure it makes the bisexuals who follow me sad as well#but like#i am at my limit#i cannot take it anymore#as a bisexual i feel like i gotta speak up more about it bc like#no ones fighting for bisexuals except bisexuals#and everyone loves speaking over us#to the bisexuals who see this i love u so so much#we cant even talk about the Real problems bisexuals face bc every day we gotta argue about the fucking definition of our sexuality#and on the rare occasion i see posts about bisexual struggles (bc i specifically follow bi blogs) its got like 100 notes#'this is what bi means' post: 30.000 notes
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vampish-glamour · 3 years
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Hiya! I'm new to your wonderful corner of the internet, and I hope you don't mind if I ask a lot of questions lol. Firstly, what do you think of pan vs bi? The only satisfying answer I have gotten as to the differences (besides subjective stuff like feeeeeeling like you value their gender or whatever) is that a pan person would f*ck intersex/enbies, while bi people wouldn't. I'm curious what you think. Second, do you think that the LGBs are ever going to have a satisfying split from the Ts/the gender fandom? What kind of steps would we take to accomplish that?
Hi, and welcome! I don’t mind questions at all. 😄
I’m strongly against the concept of pansexuality.
I believe that the label is rooted in biphobia and a misunderstanding of bisexuals.
The main arguments for the difference between bi and pan (off the top of my head) are as followed;
Bi means two, pan means all. Bisexuals are only attracted to two genders but pansexuals are attracted to all.
Bisexuals take gender into consideration when it comes to attraction. Pansexuals don’t.
Bisexuals care about parts, pansexuals care more about somebody’s personality. (“Hearts not parts”)
Bisexuals won’t date trans people, pansexuals will.
These are all either based on a misunderstanding of sexuality, or of bisexuals.
For the first one, I do agree that bi means two. But it means the two sexes, because sexuality is based off of sex (hence it being called SEXuality).
In the same way homosexual means same sex attracted, heterosexual means opposite sex attracted, and asexual means attracted to neither sex... bisexual means attracted to two/both sexes. And since there’s only two sexes, “pansexual” meaning “attracted to all sexes” is functionally the exact same thing as bisexuality.
Even if you believe in more than two genders (which I don’t), the attraction is still based off of sex characteristics... and on a biological level, there would be no difference in how a pansexual experiences attraction and how a bisexual experiences attraction.
For the second one, there are many bisexuals who don’t care about gender. There are many who have a preference. To say that all bisexuals have a preference is a misunderstanding of bisexuality. And, to say that preferences dictate sexuality is a misunderstanding of sexuality. Preferences or no preferences—it doesn’t change what sex(es) you are attracted to. If you are attracted to both sexes, you are bisexual. Your preferences or lack thereof don’t make or take away from your bisexuality.
For the third one, I just find this argument disgustingly biphobic, and in general an arrogant thing to say—that only one sexuality, pansexuality, cares about one’s personality over their body. Especially when the idea that bisexuals and homosexuals are obsessed with sex is a stereotype that has been fought against for years.
And once again, it’s a misunderstanding of sexuality. A straight woman who is more interested in sex than a guy’s personality isn’t suddenly a different sexuality. So why is this the case for bisexuals?
I believe it’s to escape the negative stereotypes that cloud over bisexuality. The idea that bisexuals are sex crazed and greedy, and only care about genitalia. It’s not a coincidence that pansexuality makes its entire brand off of distancing itself from these negative stereotypes.
It would be like if a bunch of homosexual women started calling themselves “samesexual”, and claimed that they’re different than homosexual women/lesbians because unlike lesbians, samesexuals aren’t predatory.
That sounds insanely homophobic, yes? If we can accept that creating a whole new “sexuality” to distance oneself from negative homosexual stereotypes is homophobic, we have to accept that creating a whole new “sexuality” to distance oneself from negative bisexual stereotypes is biphobic.
And the fourth argument, there’s not much to say here other than that this is plain transphobia. It separates trans people from cis people, placing trans men and women into a separate box away from “man” and “woman”
On top of this, being attracted to or not being attracted to trans people does not make a whole new sexuality, because trans people are not a third sex.
It’s also another misconception about bisexuality—because never have transsexuals not been in the bisexual dating pool.
Onto the next topic;
I don’t support “drop the T”.
This isn’t to say that I don’t think separating LGB and T for certain causes is helpful. For example; fighting for same sex marriage is an LGB issue, while fighting for accessible and affordable medical care for gender dysphoria is a T issue.
To be fair, I’m almost of the opinion that the large grouping itself isn’t really necessary, considering how different the experiences of homosexuals, bisexuals, and transsexuals are. But, I can understand why they’re all lumped together for a rights movement, especially because homophobia impacts everyone in the LGBT acronym. So since it’s here and it’s been here for a while, I’m in support of the full acronym being LGBT.
But as far as completely dropping the T goes... I believe that the push for this comes from a misunderstanding of transgender people, likely from the terrible representation they are given from people who aren’t actually transsexual.
Because the Ts and the gender fandom are two incredibly different groups, and although the distinction isn’t made often... it’s incredibly important for exactly this reason—that they get mixed together and it leads to hatred of trans people.
Transgender people/transsexuals are people who experience gender dysphoria. The goal of most trans people is to live a normal life as the gender their brain recognizes them to be. They have medical and mental health needs that are important to their quality of life. This is the crowd where you’re likely to find people who simply want to live their lives in peace.
The gender fandom, at least who I think you’re referring to, are people who don’t experience gender dysphoria, and often treat gender as an accessory, a performance, a fashion or political statement, etc. This is the crowd where you’ll find the neopronoun users, the obscure labels like “genderfluid”, and are unfortunately typically the people who get the spotlight over actual trans people.
Please do not confuse the two!
Look, I get it. Watching the second group run around and make LGBT people look like a joke is painful. But it is not the fault of transsexuals. Many trans people are just as annoyed as everyone else is, especially because they are directly being misrepresented (shown by how you and many others consider them to be one and the same with things like MOGAI).
So I won’t be advocating for dropping the T.
However, I do fully support from separating from MOGAI (or the “queer community” as many of them like to say), and I think the way to do that is to make a clear distinction between LGBT people, and QIA+ people. And making it clear that the T only includes dysphoric trans men/women.
It’s not about dropping the T. It’s about dropping everything after the T, and restoring the T to its original meaning.
We need more LGBT people to stand up against how the “queer community” is representing us, and to make it clear that the acronym is LGBT, and that the LGBT movement is a civil rights movement, not a “let’s all party and share our pronouns” movement.
Thanks to the “queer community”, LGBT people aren’t taken seriously. Thanks to the “gender fandom”, transsexuals are seen as a joke and a burden to the LGBT community. Both the “queer community” and “gender fandom” need to be separated and made distinct from the LGBT community, and this should be done with all four letters, not just three.
Tl;dr:
I’m against the pansexual label, and I believe it is inherently biphobic and often transphobic.
It also perpetuates harmful stereotypes about bisexuals and homosexuals.
I don’t support the “drop the T” movement.
The T gets a lot of misrepresentation, and I believe that misrepresentation is part of where the “drop the T” movement comes from.
It’s important to make a distinction between the LGBT movement and the modern day “queer community” if we ever want LGBT people to be taken seriously again.
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Hey
Idk if you ever got the answer to your thing. But I’m a person who is queer but regularly uses the term lesbian to make things simpler. I can tell you why I hate the phrase monosexual- it feels transphobic to me- I am not attracted to men at all, but I am attracted to women, non-binary folks, gender queer folks, and agender folks. If I was with a partner and they transitioned to be a man I would still love them. That wouldn’t change. Sexuality is fluid and calling someone monosexual seems to erase that and really put people in boxes. Everyone has exceptions. And as someone who has identified as bisexual and pansexual in the past and find those not to suit me and fit right (especially since I am not sexually/romantically attracted to people physically/based on appearances- it’s more about personality and what I could do with a person)
I don’t mean this in an antagonistic way, I really hope it doesn’t come off that way(I’m bad expressing myself sorry).
(I’m sorry, I know you’re not trying to be rude. My answer, however, will sound rude and upset because you touched upon some stuff that needs a lot of unpacking to me lmao. Just know this anger is not necessarily directed at you but at biphobia in general.)
Why do bisexual people may need to use the term monosexual?
A. It is descriptive
I see what you mean but as you said you're queer and lesbian is a term to make things simpler, right?
So I wouldnt call you monosexual because you’re clearly not attracted to only one gender (but if you want to who I am to stop you?). Monosexual is someone who is almost exclusively dating/is attracted to people of one gender. There are plenty trans people that are straight or gay that would NOT date a partner if they realized they were a different gender. For real: kat blaque made a video (here it is if youre interested) on youtube about this - she’s trans and she wants to date men and wouldnt feel comfortable on continuing dating if a partner of hers realized they were actually a trans woman all along. She wants to date guys not girls and that's FINE it just means A. She actually recognizes the girl gender, obviously B. She's straight af and that's wonderful! It’s not a box if that’s how her experience is and she likes it that way!
Also how is being monosexual transphobic? Cant a girl just like guys exclusively (both cis and trans) or like girls exclusively (both cis and trans)? It's not even enbyphobic since you dont need to be attracted to a person to support their rights. (Gay men arent attracted to women but can be 100% feminists.) Being open to fuck somebody is not the same as supporting their rights: fetishization is a thing. Again, I refer to the video Kat Blaque made.
Sexuality IS fluid but to some people (like me and you) it is more than others. Some people don’t feel comfortable dating people that dont fall into the gender theyre usually attracted to and thats 100% okay.
B. It helps in talking about biphobia and panphobia in society
Biphobia and panphobia are for the large part based on the assumption that you cant be attracted to more than one gender (not even non-binary and so on) and that if you do you're weird/disgusting/mentally ill/a sexual predator. I can tell you 100% that's the narrative both straight and gay people can and may perpetuate since I struggle w this kind of shit every single time Im attracted to someone no matter their gender (YES, EVEN IF THEY'RE A GUY, BECAUSE THE OTHER DAY I WAS ATTRACTED TO A GIRL AND NOW I FEEL LIKE A FUCKING ANIMAL THAT CANT CONTROL ITSELF, even though it makes NO sense because if it was two girls or two boys the actual number of people my hormones activated to wouldnt change, but it would make my experience not subjected to biphobia!). I’m not saying gay people are the same as straight people. But I do feel alienated BOTH from heteronormative society AND from (subtly biphobic) gay spaces because of my bisexuality. I costantly feel like I’m outside both of those worlds and you know how humans are: I just need a term to encompass it all easily, to say “I don’t identify with any of this” (which is both straight and strictly gay spaces: ie, monosexual). To me is literally the same as saying non-bisexual/non-pansexual.
I dont mean to say lesbians or gays have it easier or are just like straight people. But we do have different experiences and I need terms to express that. It honestly doesnt matter to me if you identify as lesbian or queer (though I think you’re implying you’re more queer than anything). But I do need a term to talk about how society at large treats sexuality; ie, as a monosexual thing. Another concept that’s been thrown around is bi erasure. A strictly monosexual society is bound to view a girl dating a girl (or girl presenting) as if theyre both LESBIANS and erase a queer person the moment they’re in a m/f relationship, because people cant COMPUTE that it may not be the case and that the girl dating a cis straight dude isnt betraying her queerness.To think so is basic biphobia.
In some ways, I think it’s the same as when transgender people started using the term cisgender - which is applicable to both straight people and queer/gay people. They simply needed a term which meant “not-trans” as they were saying “I dont identify with this” (ie the cisgender experience). Does it imply that cisgender people, no matter if queer, have something in common? Yeah, yeah it does. Does it imply that queer people are just the same as straight people, or face no oppression? Of course not. Seeing people being offended upon being called monosexual feels like people being offended upon being called cis to me.
Also, saying that the terms bisexual people use are transphobic is almost implying that bisexuality is inherently transphobic? Or reeks to me of that kind of rhetoric. I use the terms I need to use, just like any other marginilized group does, and nobody outside of that group has any right of denying me that. It’s like I’m trying to create a safe space for myself and people like me and yall come around to judge us YET AGAIN. And I'm just tired of hearing this bullshit. I could accept this kind of criticism only if it came from a trans person themselves, I guess? But it’s not usually trans people who accuse us of being transphobic, in fact, many trans people identify as bisexual and use bisexual terminology lmfao.
“Hearts not parts” rhetoric
Finally, about personality being superior to physical appearance. That's amazing but I do want to note that, not you necessarily, but many people who are into the “hearts not parts” rhetoric are, how can I say this. Slut-shaming people? I’m not sure if you are doing this but I feel it needs to be said just to be sure. A lesbian trans woman can be just attracted to a girl for her physical appearance and just want to fuck her - and THAT'S OKAY. That's fine. I am a sexually attracted to people and that doesnt mean I have to form a deep bond first. Sex positivity is about accepting that people can feel like this and not shame them for this. "Hearts not parts” rhetoric has in the past infantilized, sanitized or outright shamed other queer experiences. It's fine if you feel that way but dont start acting like you're morally superior because of that. That's catholicism with extra steps. My bisexuality its not the symptom of some predatory and animalistic thing that should be purified into something more palatable and less sexual. That’s the same thing they used to say about gay people and now gay (biphobic) people are using this against us. That’s also the kind of thing trans women (especially if they’re sapphic) constantly hear every fucking day. Queer people have a good part of their discrimination rooted in the shaming of purely sexual desires. Forcing ourselves to be more palatable and less sexual is just respectability politics. I’m tired of it. (This is obviously different from being on the asexual spectrum: but you dont see ace people going around pretending they’re morally superior than everybody else, and many are actually very sex positive)   You would still love your partner if they were a different gender: that’s great, but that’s not how some (most) people feel, and they aren’t superficial because of this, just different from you.
Also, I think you’d really benefit from hearing a trans person say they don’t care if someone has genitalia preferences. Here it is. This obviously doesnt mean that every trans person will feel like she does, but it does mean that we can’t generalize trans experiences/preferences/what they feel transphobia is. Just like straight people dont get to say what’s homophobic or not, cis people dont get to say what’s transphobic or not. The definition of those terms relies entirely on the community that is targeted by these things.
I hope this wasnt excessively confusing but I wanted to make my point clear.
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thecorteztwins · 4 years
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A Primer for Intersex Characters
I hesitated on writing this, since I am not intersex. But I’ve seen a lot of intersex characters around, a lot of common tropes and mistakes, and not any guides on how to write them accurately or respectfully. I cannot claim to have any experience relevant to being intersex, so I’ve simply tried my best to read the words and voices of many intersex people and relay them here. I welcome correction if something is wrong, since my goal here is to help stop misinformation and misunderstanding, not spread it further. Okay, let’s begin with the physical/medical stuff. - There are multiple terms for people who are NOT intersex, including perisex, endosex, jutasex, and dyadic. Please use any of these rather than “normal”. Cisgender is also not an acceptable substitution, as it conflates intersex with being trans (and some intersex people *are* cisgender) The term “hermaphrodite” is offensive and inaccurate; it is to be used for animals for whom true hermaphrodism (being fully reproductive as both sexes) is the norm, not for people. That said, I have encountered intersex people who use it as a reclaimed term. But if you are not intersex, you should not be using it for your character. - Intersex people are not a third sex category unto themselves ,nor are they both sexes at once. Intersex conditions are variations on male or female, and many intersex conditions are in fact sex-specific. - Intersex is not one thing. There is no single condition called “intersex”. It’s like “mentally ill”  or “disabled” it’s a category containing many different conditions, each with different symptoms and presentations. If you are going to have your character be intersex, please have them have a specific condition (even if they don’t know it/have not been diagnosed/etc) and research that condition thoroughly. Being intersex is always attached to a condition, and there are a limited number of said conditions in existence, and, again, each has specific symptoms and presentations, it’s not just a random mix-and-match. - Most of these conditions are not just cosmetic, there are often MEDICAL PROBLEMS. Most of the time it’s bone and/or heart problems and a need for more screening for reproductive/gonadal health issues, but some have more specific issues. For instance, CAH comes with excessive hairiness and ambiguous genitalia in females, but also something called excess natriuresis, also known as salt-wasting, which can lead to death, and a lower level of cortisol in the blood that puts them at a constant risk of adrenal crisis. So it’s not just about how the body LOOKS, or just about reproductive/sexual function, the entire system is often affected by too much or too little sex hormones. Sometimes there are even cognitive effects; Turner’s Syndrome can cause nonverbal learning disorders, difficulty in perceiving spatial relationships, and issues with motor control, while Klinefelter’s Syndrome can cause learning delays in general. Again, please research if your character is going to have this, and consider the effects. - Not all intersex conditions affect the genital configuration at all. For instance, in Persistent Müllerian duct syndrome, someone who looks externally like a completely normal cis man will have parts of the female reproductive system internally; many of these men never know this til they’re adults and it’s discovered in a medical examination for some other issue and it gets discovered by accident. Likewise, someone with AIS is often going to look totally cis female and be raised as such, and only find it out when she sees a medical specialist because her parents wonder why she isn’t getting her period yet. Ultrasounds, blood tests, and genetics tests are all much better indications of an intersex condition than a mere visual examination of the genitals, as well as kinder and less invasive. - Some conditions that DO affect the genitals still don’t make them ambiguous in any way, just not configured in the usual way. For instance, in Mullerian agenesis, a woman is just missing the uterus and thus infertile, but doesn’t have any “male” traits. Nor does having XXX chromosomes masculinize a woman at all, but it is an abnormality of sex chromosomes and thus classed as intersex. Sometimes it’s not about the sex being ambiguous, but about something that’s missing or not arranged as it should be. Again, it’s not a sexy disorder, and can result in a lot of unpleasant medical and mental effects depending just what’s going on. - Most intersex conditions result in infertility. Depending on their particular condition and its severity, someone may be fertile, but they are NEVER going to be fertile BOTH WAYS. There is no such thing as someone who can both impregnate another person and be impregnated themselves, not unless they’re some kind of mutant, alien, etc., and that’s obviously not what’s being discussed here. - Intersex people should not be used as an excuse to make fetish fantasy fuel. If you want to make a beautifully androgynous boy who can get pregnant or an Amazonian goddess with a big dick, just make that and be honest it’s your personal porn fantasy, but don’t call them intersex or claim it’s representation of any sort. Especially since there’s no condition I’m aware of that’s going to result in either of these things. Being intersex is often fetishized or treated as a freakish curiosity, sometimes both at once. If your character is extremely sexual or sexualized, and their intersex status is a large part of that, reconsider. If your character is depicted as bizarre or monstrous, and being intersex is part of why, don’t do that. - It varies with the specific condition, but most intersex people are actually not going to look androgynous like many people seem to think. Most, in fact, are going to look like perfectly ordinary men and women; you probably have met an intersex person and didn’t know it. That said, there are sometimes phenotypical symptoms. Again, this is NOT androgynous beauty or elegant gender ambiguity as I think people often hope/fantastize, but more like, say, the webbed neck of Turner’s syndrome, or the gynecomastia of Klinefelter’s (which are NOT big perky tits), etc. I am not trying to say intersex people are ugly or these features are anything to be ashamed of, but rather that if you are going to represent people with these conditions, to include the real features of their conditions, even the ones that don’t appeal to you, rather than defaulting to, again, fantasies and fetishes. Now comes the real thorny territory--- common ideas and presumptions I’ve seen around what intersex people think, identify as , etc., and addressing those. Again I am not intersex so I don’t want to speak on “what intersex people think” merely relay what I have seen, and what it comes down to is---there is no one thing all people who are intersex think! - Please be aware of the many issues intersex people face, be it medical problems stemming from their specific condition, being used as a political football by other groups, or finding doctors who will treat them respectfully and compassionately. Medical abuse of intersex people and trying to “fix” their genitals via surgery on infants and children is a rampant thing, and something that many intersex people are opposed to. It’s also worth noting that the terms “AMAB” and “AFAB” originated in the intersex community, as it CAFAB and CAMAB. I’m just trying to cover basics here but if you’re going to write a person with an intersex condition, these are all worth looking into further. - Many people with an intersex condition see it as just that, a medical condition. Many do not see themselves as something besides male or female, just as men or women who have a medical condition, and many may in fact be offended by the claim that they are a third category. It is for this reason that many dislike being used as “gotcha” to the claim there are “only two sexes” especially when it’s by people who don’t actually know or care anything about intersex people or the issues they face, and just want to win an argument, because it’s saying they’re NOT a man or NOT a woman because of their condition. - Many also do not consider being intersex to be LGBT and don’t wish to be included under the umbrella as such. - But, by the same token, some DO consider themselves a third category and DO feel that being intersex should be part of the LGBT umbrella. - I’ve noticed there seems to be an assumption that all intersex people are inherently nonbinary, genderqueer, trans, etc. Firstly, that’s not true. Many intersex people identify within the gender binary as a man or a woman, and many identify with their birth sex. I think this idea, while progressive on the surface, actually belies a very cisnormative way of thinking---the idea that the body must match the gender identity, so therefore someone with an “in-between” body must have an “in-between” gender identity! Which is really quite an offensive assumption, and no more true than the idea that everyone with a vagina identifies as a woman or that everyone with a penis identifies as a man. This is not to say that having a genderqueer/genderfluid/nonbinary/etc person with an intersex condition is automatically wrong either, there are non-binary intersex people in real life too, I’m saying that it isn’t an automatic part of being intersex. - Likewise, I see an assumption that all intersex people are going to be queer, pansexual, etc., or that their partners by definition must be pansexual, etc. But many intersex people are heterosexual. Many are also gay, or bi, or ace, and so on. And those who are monosexual are not less gay or straight for being intersex, nor are their partners. Believe it or not, there’s a ton of regular ol’ cishet people who have an intersex condition. - There’s also an assumption I’ve seen that all intersex people are all automatically going to be trans-supportive/trans-inclusive or count as trans by default. This is also not the case. There are seen intersex people who were trans/enbyphobic, just like anyone else can be. Many do not see themselves as comparable to trans people, and resent the idea they are the same or comparable. Some just don’t give a fuck either way. - Some intersex people have deep and complicated relationships with their status as intersex. Some see it as no different than just having diabetes. Some are activists and very knowledgeable about a host of intersex topics, both the physical aspects of various conditions and the political issues surrounding being intersex in general, and are very opinionated. Some people just know about their own condition and nothing more, and have no involvement in any kind of activism, no particularly strong opinions, etc. - Some people always knew they were intersex, some didn’t find out til puberty, some didn’t find out til in their adult life. It depends vastly on their condition and how it presents, as well as the access they had to medical care, whether their doctors were qualified or not, what decade they were growing up in and where, whether their families told them, etc. - There is debate on if PCOS counts as being intersex or not. I’ve seen a lot of people with PCOS argue it does, and a lot of people with other conditions say it’s in no way the same. I am not taking sides, as I don’t have either, just something to be aware of. At the moment though, no intersex rights organization or doctor classifies PCOS as intersex. So basically what it comes down to is that there’s a big diversity of conditions, and likewise a big diversity of experience, identities, and opinions. Do your research, and listen to intersex people, including the ones whose opinions you don’t like or whose opinions are contradict those of other intersex people. Find what fits your character best, think very critically on why you want an intersex character in the first place and why you chose what you did, and, above all, be respectful. 
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women-only · 5 years
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I'm not really sure where else to submit this story because you're the only nontroll radfem blog I could find, and sorry if a lot of these words and thoughts are convoluted, but it's something I've wanted to share for a long time.....
My S.O. being "trans" made me a transphobe
I'm 17 and a cis bi girl and I was always think of myself as extreme libfem, and because I'm bi, I always felt like it wouldn't matter to me the genitalia of my partner, and I was very pro trans right yadda yadda. I was dating this cis guy, we were friends throughout grade school so I thought he was someone I knew well, but one day, he told me "I think I'm a girl". I had never ever thought of myself as a potential transphobe before then, but hearing him say that made me sick to my gut because, honestly, I couldn't see it coming at all? In a lot of ways he was stereotypically male or masculine and I was just really shocked, but also of course I felt like a bad person for being "transphobic" and I couldn't understand why, so at first I did say "I think you should think about this more, but ultimately I support you".
From then on it just got worse though, like he started being more performatively feminine in a way that really made me uncomfortable..... First "small stuff" like growing his hair longer and painting his nails, but then what REALLY bothered me is he started acting like hyper cute, Like I mean like unironically using uwu on the Internet and like begging for people online to call him cute and girly and feminine, and I want to point out this was really different from how he acted in real life with me where he was still like... a regular guy? So it seemed so obvious to me it was an act, but when I brought it up, he lashed out at me, basically saying I was transphobic (of course) for implying he was only acting. He only got meaner and meaner to me in private while still keeping up this pwecious fragile baby attitude on the Internet and all his trans girl friends acting exactly the same, I felt so alone and helpless, like I was living with this secret. 
I want to add that he also got more sexual after coming out too, wanting to be submissive, wanting me to hurt him sexually, and looking back on it, I think that was a super gross mainfestation of what he thought girls like or want..... Thinking about that really makes my skin crawl right now.....
I felt very pressured to stay in the relationship for a long time because I was afraid he would write a call out for me if we broke up about me being transphobic and this is when I started realizing I might be a terf but I feel so scared to talk about it to anyone. He was way more popular than me too which made it extra hard, and it's really hard for me to find real terf/radfem blogs that aren't trolls. I actually found your blog around that time and I felt guilty reading it but at the same time I couldn't deny that I absolutely agreed with almost everything. 
We eventually broke up thanks to the help of some of my close lesbian friends and I am so thankful. I've really wanted to write this for a long time but I only did today because I saw a picture of that ex with all his trans friends and it's so funny to me how they all look exactly the same, same hair, same outfits, same expression and posing... It's so obvious how hard they're trying to be girls, and it really repulses me. I still struggle sometimes because I'm really scared to be a terf but I really want to get stronger every day.
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first of all, thank you for sharing this. i know it must’ve been really hard to type it out and i admire you for putting it into words.
second of all, you are not a transphobe for knowing that he is male or for being skeptical of how he started acting. he thinks that being a woman is just being submissive and getting hurt. you are not transphobic for having a brain and seeing how wrong that is.
third of all, i’m really glad you two broke up. he seemed abusive to me (emotionally) and you don’t deserve that kind of mind games you know?
i understand how hard it is to talk about things like this. no one knows i have this blog socit can get frustrating at times but the radfems i follows on here are the sweetest and understanding women and you can build really great friendships here. also i know what you mean about feeling guilty reading these kinds of blogs. i think we were all once where you are at right now.
but one thing to remember is, life is short. and people are always gonna criticize and talk shit about one thing or another. so i’m trying to learn to just not give a fuck. if someone finds out that you’re gender critical, who cares. the block button is a great thing.
you aren’t alone and i hope that i answered this as well as i could. i hope you have a great day <3
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thotclaws · 7 years
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Non Binary gender(s) myths and Stereotypes. {Rant}
WARNING: I’M A VERY SARCASTIC PERSON, PLEASE DON’T TAKE ANY OF THIS SERIOUS OR GO AND BULLY OTHERS. THANK YOU.
I do love it when conservatives don’t take the time to look at the other side of the argument, and take their time to learn more about Liberals, and find out that not all feminists hate men. I’m not saying all of them are ignorant but when it comes to gender, they just shut their brain off and automatically just say that gender isn’t a social construct when they must realize that it is.
Within this day in age of evolving into something new, we’re also getting advanced as a species. We should be proud of our accomplishments, but we should be proud of what we are and who we are. Except for death, war, famine and pestilence haha, we shouldn’t be proud of that. For gender, it should be looked into rather than brush it off as something provocative to garner attention to gain validation. Unless someone is absolutely needing to try their best to be the gender they want, then I have no problem with that. What I don’t like is when it’s used for bad rather than good. That’s why so many people are ignorant on non binary genders.
Gender is often misconception as sex. Gender doesn’t equal sex, in a way. Your hormones and chromosomes determine your sex. That is true. Your genitalia differs from person to person. Next is just expression. Gender is very much a social construct, here’s why. It’s mostly psychological based and that if someone is transgender, then they must have had some form of dysphoria. So what does this mean? It means that someone is born in the wrong body. Gender itself is questionable as a construct, to me it is. I believe that gender EXPECTATIONS is a social construct. I think it’s most definitely that. We’re so quick to think that if someone's born female, they MUST love boys. That’s just one of the many examples. 
What else is there? Gender doesn’t equal everything. Humans are different and sometimes labels for us helps us determine what gender we are. Some are fluid and some are none, gender is a spectrum. It’s not as black and white as people claim it to be. So please hear me out anti SJW’s. I’ll let you do whatever. Just as long as you know whatcha doing ;).
I think Contrapoints brings this up better than I can, so go and watch his video on genderqueer. It pretty much summons up what it is being non binary. Here.
Let’s look at the myths.
1. We all just do it for attention.
Well yes and no. Yes there are the non binaries out there that do use it to harm others. Some like to use it as excuses, while the rest just want to find the right shoes to wear. Other than that, we are a collective group of people trying to figure out what we are as a person and how we can express ourselves. For expressions and identities. There are some that should be better explained like Contrapoints. Gender is physiological and physical. While sex is biological. Case in point ;).
2. All of them are feminists.
Nope. I’m not a feminist because the term has been used in a derogatory manner. So that’s really why I’m not a feminist. I’m more or less and egalitarian. I like the term better because I’m wanting to do some more of their practices. So really, not all of us are feminists. We just have a hard time trying to get away from the hypocrisies surrounding feminism. 
3. Anyone that makes up genders are special snowflakes
ALL of us are special snowflakes. Whether you're straight or gay. Liberal or conservative. We’re ALL special little snowflakes. I point you to a video made by Adoesofbuckly, he explains in full detail as to why some band decided photoshopping Trump would get me and other people pissed off and that the fact that we don’t like fascists like Trump. We like a person who doesn’t think like him. I’m actually a central Liberal. I do know that both sides have their own bias but right wingers hate it when their ideas are challenged and debated because they’ll go in saying their shit and not proving anything. For someone like Countapoints. He makes a lot of good examples about being a Liberal and how he discusses and uses both sides to determine what he feels as correct. For “Anti-SJW’s” Like me. I am an anti SJW because of how tumblr treats other people and just so much horrid shit on straight and cis white people. Other anti SJW’s refuse to look on the Liberal side of things and debate on their side as well. Challenge both sides, not just say that “Oh if you believe that this so and so topic exists, then your a snowflake bla bla bla.”
4. Are there actually 72 genders?
I don’t know myself HAHA. I just don’t know either. We could have so much gender expressions labeled that we’d run out. So I love the simple terms like agender, demi, gender fluid/flux, bigender, gender neutral, and trigender. Those are all lovely terms with what we label ourselves as. I’m genderfluid and I’ve been that way since I was 16. I had mild dysphoria when I was a kid, so I didn’t know how to express myself to others, I wasn’t transgender. I did wore girly cloths that my mom gave me. I’ll still wear girly clothes every now and then, but over all. I do feel different inside physiologically. Most of the time, anti SJW’s would argue that being all these other genders are based on personality and both are good answers. I want more discussions rather than obsen nonsense about gender identity. If you feel like there’s only 2? Then I’m ok with that. Everyone should agree to disagree, and these 72 genders to me are getting out of hand tbh.
5. Then what about sexuality?
Sexuality is also a spectrum. What you are attracted to is on you. If you're gay, you’re gay, if your bi, your bi. Easy and simple. We all have our attractions to people and that should be a good thing. Being gay doesn’t mean that you're unhappy. Someone like Milo Yiannopoulos is the reason why being gay isn’t about having morals, it’s about have a balance between morals and aesthetics. Just like what Contrapoints said in their video that being gay shouldn’t be taken lightly and should be talked about, especially to those church freaks. Now those are the people that I find stupid lol.
6. How about attraction? Doesn’t that also mean sexual attraction?
Also both yes and no. Attraction can mean many things like how you present your attractions to someone. Me I’m aromantic. I find no romantic attraction to no one, just platonic friendship. I’m also a bisexual pan. I know this because I did came out as bi and I got a few comments saying that I’m going to hell or something. Being gay or bi doesn’t mean that we’re all bad people, yes there are those people that are mean but what do I care? I’ve never met a mean gay or bi person. A bit about attraction is that it’s also a spectrum as well. I feel this more better understanding for the anti SJW’s because it’s easy to defy. 
7. Are celebrities also turning into SJW’s if they think like this?
Still yes and no. It depends on the celebrity. I personally hate celebrities that get a bad rap but also give a bit of a chance to the celebutantes like Kim K. I think celebrities should give their word and stance on political issues. They shouldn’t be shunned because of what they say unless it is legit homophobic slurs and racist slurs. Then yeah, I’d understand why I had to hate him or her. Celebrities that think that gender is a social construct shouldn’t be hated on and I really do hate that they don’t give them a chance to explain themselves, the internet would just automatically assume that they’re SJW’s period. It sucks, it really does. Like BIll Nye when he talked about gender, sexuality, and romance are being a spectrum, everyone lost their shit and just flipped the switch and started hating on him. It makes me sad beyond belief. Social science IS still science. There have been accounts of how someone personally feels about being a different gender, sexuality or romance by professionals. *Deep sighs* It just makes me sad that they don’t want to hear about the other side...
8. Then what about pronouns?
I’m personally alright with people using different pronouns to identify themselves. Like me, I’m mostly using they/them pronouns because it makes me feel comfortable with my gender neutrality at times. It should be for everyone, but of course the pronouns that haven’t been used throughout history or is made up is also a big no for me. If you use Ze/Xie/Ey, those are fine by me, just be sure to tell people politely to use your preferred pronouns. Don’t force it onto someone to make you use them. That’s just called being rude and that will make someone hate you due to your pronouns. 
9. What does this all lead to?
Discussion silly. I love open discussions with others about these topics and it’s sad to see that tumblr doesn’t like open discussions and they’d like to live in their bubble of a reality. I know that people are going to disagree with me on this post, and I’m perfectly ok with that. Everyone has the rights to disagree with me. I know that if you have a strong argument for me, then I’ll happily do research and discuss with someone. Unfortunately I don’t always have the time to discuss to everyone about gender identity and sexuality. 
10. Will you get hate?
Depends on how much this reaches around this sight. I hope to not get hate, but I do want criticism. That’s really all I ask. I don’t want anything in return. I just made this post because I was bored and I wanted to talk about gender identities haha. 
So those are just a few myths and open possibilities about who and what we are as a species. As long as you're not killing or hurting anyone, I wish you reading this a good day. 
Much love, Khara-Chan <3
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wisdomfish · 3 years
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Dear Gay Community,
As a Christian who has been forced to evaluate where I stand in recent days in light of Scripture, in both tone and message, I would like to apologize for myself and other Christians…
1. I’m sorry that any of us ever referred to you as a “gay community.” Really, that’s not helpful. A “community” is a group of individuals that either live in the same place or share the same values. Sodomy (defined as unnatural and immoral sexual behavior) is not a value. Sodomy is a deviancy. Now, if you defined “community” as sharing interests and not values, then there could theoretically be a gay community because you hold unnatural and immoral sexual behavior as a common interest. However, to call you a “community” would legitimize this sin in a way that we don’t legitimize any other sin. For example, we don’t recognize “the thieving community” or the “the lying community” or “the bank-robbing community” or “the rapist community” or the “white collar criminal community.” If communities could be founded upon self-destructive behavior, those communities would be self-defeating, and a self-defeating community is no community at all. In fact, a truly “gay community” would be extinct within one generation. Your unnatural sexual deviancy leads to death; legitimate communities are self-populating and regenerative. It was a dumb term for Christians to start using, and I apologize for all of those who inadvertently give credence to the narrative that yours is a community and not a group of sinners who share in community-destroying behavior.
2. I’m sorry that Christians have made a habit of referring to you as LGBT or LGBTQ or by any other acronym or term, identifying you by your sin.
First, it is unfair and unhelpful to identify you by your sin. This is actually discriminatory against you, because we don’t behave this way toward any other group of sinners. Adulterers don’t find their identity in adultery. Liars don’t find their identity in lying. Gluttons don’t find their identity in gluttony. We tend to view others as “people who happen to [fill in the blank with any number of sins].” We haven’t viewed you as people – first and foremost – who suffer from the sinful desire of sodomy. Now, you have self-identified as LGBT, because there is a unique tendency when it comes to homosexuality to let the sin consume you as a person, but we should not have participated in the unfortunate reality that your identity has become wrapped up in sinful behavior. If you thought of yourself as a person who suffers from homosexual desires, rather than as a homosexual, you might realize that you’re more than your specific sexual deviancy. God created you to be so much more than a sexual-preference. I’m sorry that leaders like Russell Moore at the ERLC use that term. It’s got to be confusing to you, and altogether unhelpful.
Secondly, I’m sorry we’ve used the term LGBT because it’s a stupid, short-sighted and discriminatory term. Remember back when it was “gay and lesbian?” Ah, good times. Then, bi-sexual became a part of the identity-status. Then, transexual was joined into the acronym. However, it just plain falls short of all the various sexual deviancies out there. And so next, Q was added. “Queer,” you would think, would cover just about everything. And yet, I’m willing to bet that people self-identifying as “queer” would object to certain other sexual deviancies claiming that nomenclature (for now, anyway). How many letters will be added in the end? From a Christian perspective, I apologize we ever used the term. It implies that we – or God – cares about what your particular sexual fetish is. We don’t, honestly. There are two types of sexual behavior, and only one of which is honored by God and to be celebrated by his people. There is a sexual relationship between husband and wife, and there is every other kind of sexual relationship in the world. There are really only two categories. Christians have had such a hard time putting homosexuality in the sin category (and leaving it there) because we have a tendency to overlook opposite-sex, premarital or extramarital fornication within our own churches. We’ve turned a blind eye to cohabitating couples in our churches for decades. Now, don’t get me wrong – homosexuality is used in the Bible over and again as an example of the depths of human depravity. I don’t want to be guilty of sin-leveling, here. I just want to point out that in the broadest spectrum, there is approved sexual behavior and deviant sexual behavior. Classifying you as LGBTQ or XYZABC is really irrelevant, and Christians shouldn’t have ever been using these terms. Plus, there are way more than 26 sexual deviancies out there, and we’d eventually run out of alphabet.
3. I’m sorry that we’ve given you the impression that “self-identifying” is a thing. Yes, I know I’ve used the term to get a point across in this letter of apology. But, here’s the thing…you don’t get to “self-identify.” God gave you your identity. Bruce Jenner is not Caitlyn. That’s silly. He’s a guy who emasculated himself to look like a woman, adding breasts and makeup and tucking appendages. It’s a game of dress up, essentially. And if he were to remove his genitalia, he still wouldn’t be a woman. He’d be a man without his genitalia. Bruce Jenner will never have PMS. That’s because he’s not a woman. It’s really, really mean for Christians to be anything but straightforward with this reality. I’m convinced that Bruce Jenner doesn’t have people around him that loves him, or else they would tell him that he doesn’t look like a beautiful woman. He looks like the person that kids on the bus snicker at behind them, and dare one another to go up and touch. Christians, if we were loving, would say “Bless your heart, but you’re not a woman. You’re a man trying to look like a woman, but no one really thinks you’re accomplishing that so well. You are Bruce, and God made you to be Bruce, and you can never be Caitlyn.”
Yes, I know that sounds terribly mean. However, if you were turning yourself into a hideous creature by trying to destroy the handiwork of God manifest in your body, you would want someone to give you a dose of reality. Christians, just as we should tell our kids that when we say, “You can be anything you want when you grow up,” that we don’t mean a butterfly, shouldn’t give people the impression that they’re free to identify however they choose. I may identify as a seven foot tall black man, but it doesn’t mean that I am. Christians should be truth-tellers, and to use the pronouns “her” or “she” when referring to those who God made male (or vice versa) is to bear witness against both our creator and those who are trying to mutilate their flesh. I’m sorry that professing Christians have done that.
4. I’m sorry that Christians have given you the impression that you can be both a born-again Christian and an unrepentant practitioner of sodomy. The Apostle Paul was very clear in 1st Corinthians 6, that homosexuality is one of the sins for which men must repent and leave if they are to follow Christ. “And that is what some of you were (verse 11)” in the context of this passage, demonstrates that there were not practitioners of these sins in the midst of the church. This list of sins marked an unbeliever, and not a believer. Yes, I know there are lots of professing Christians (think of them as “self-identifying Christians”) who are not so, in reality. They are of whom the Scripture speaks in Romans 1, who “give approval unto those who practice such sins.” Because we love you, we should have clarified that you should, under no circumstance, consider yourself a believer in Jesus until that belief leads you to repentance.
5. I’m sorry that we insisted for so long that you were not born this way. But hey, to be honest, y’all have fought amongst yourselves on that one (and are still fighting about it). I think it was important to some of us to believe that this sin was entirely the product of your choice. This was a theological fail on our part. While the behavior is entirely the product of your choice, the inclination or desire is a product of Original Sin and denotes a depraved inherited nature (back to Romans 1 again). Some of you may claim your behavior is “natural.” While we know on one level that it is unnatural (which is why the sin is so clearly condemned in Scripture – you don’t need God’s written Law to know it’s wrong; nature itself testifies against it), the fact is, it may be in your unconverted nature. This is why you need a new nature that is found only by being born again. As a Christian, I apologize for all those who are theologically inept and don’t understand how ingrained sin is into our flesh. Of course, this is the point of being born again – to be made new and to receive a new nature.
6. Finally, I apologize for all the professed Christians that you thought had convictions, only to find out that they were sniveling, driveling compromise machines. It probably surprised you how they changed their tune and their tone when the Supreme Court ruled. That’s especially tragic. It’s tragic, because I know that your conscience is cutting you. I know that even truth suppressed in unrighteousness hurts. It’s painful, I’m sure. You might even be on the look-out for conviction and resolve and truth, and while perhaps being glad to see the rainbow filter go on your professing-Christian Facebook friends’ profiles, you’re a little let down that there isn’t an unchanging reality out there somewhere. Down deep, you know that you need that. I’m sorry for all those who have professed Christ, but haven’t loved you (or Him) enough to dig their heels in and speak a truth that’s as helpful as it is inconvenient.
I sincerely hope you’ll forgive us for these shortcomings, and we strive to do better in the future.
J.D. Hall
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