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Scans of the Brazilian magazine "Set" from March 2006. Despite the cover and main article of the mag being the TV shows that were revolutionizing the way of watching and making television at the time, like 24, Lost, CSI and The Simpsons, the focus here is on Harrison Ford and the movie Firewall.

There's an interview that addresses the issue of Ford's age and how he continues to make action movies. He mentions that he receives many scripts with characters that he believes are too old to play. There is a discussion about the accuracy of the technology shown in Firewall and how the filmmakers worked hard to ensure authenticity.

Ford talks about the physical work involved in the action scenes and how they are choreographed like a dance. He also mentions the technology on the set, with director Richard Loncraine being an enthusiast of wireless technology. The interview also highlights that the script for Firewall went through many changes, especially to validate the use of technology in the movie.

Harrison explains that he chose to act in Firewall because he thought the character was interesting and that the movie could be entertaining for audiences. He also talks about the changing audience, which is getting younger and younger.

And finally, Ford expresses his enthusiasm for reprising the role of Indiana Jones in a fourth movie, even though he acknowledges that the character has also aged. He highlights his privileged position of being able to choose his projects and make mistakes, mentioning that he tries to show his versatility in different genres, but recognizes that he is also a "product" and has a degree of independence in this process.

More mags here.

[carlyraejepsans]

look i understand that ai generated content is a controversial topic, and ultimately protecting artists' intellectual property should take moral priority, but i feel like when people say "you don't want character.ai you want to rp with someone" they're kinda missing the point because unlike a chatbot, you can't exactly look your rp partner in the eye and say "that sucked ass. do that again"

[eternaljunkyard]

sucks that that guy scraped ao3 but idk. people like him are always gonna exist. there will always be stuff to scrape off the internet but idk. i can't consciously archive lock my works. partially because its so difficult to get an account now but also because I don't think I should have to lock my works. i don't think other people should have to suffer because of a couple scalpers trying to make a quick buck. and ofc I understand people who do archive lock their works, plagiarism isn't fun or good and you can take the time to get a free account and it's hunky dory, but open and accessible fanfic and fandom have done so so much for me I can't justify locking mine. idk. also this is just gonna keep happening and at some point the scalpers are gonna make accounts and then there you go anyway. so.

[punch-love]

i agree on the AI thing, it's such a big umbrella term that encompasses so many diff things but it's become the latest buzzword that ppl just throw around. people will be "anti AI" when they exclusive mean generative AI. they dont realize anything with an algorithm uses AI, medical imaging uses AI, so on and so forth 😭

my feelings on generative AI and some of its current applications are pretty negative but AI in general has been helping us for decades and is pretty great!!!

It ticks me off so much. It's like....there are absolutely dangers with generative AI, but also. It's in the world now, so you can cower or you can dip your toes in and interact with the inescapable future. The march of progress will move on whether you're with it or not. There are people who were alive during the invention of electricity who died thinking that installing it to houses was a danger to them and society.

The real issue is capitalism. If we existed in a society where AI could exist for reasons outside of profit/consumption, then I think we would feel differently. I'm not offended by robots making art - I think the art they create is often very beautiful! I don't think art is limited to humans, and I think it's arrogant and small-minded to think that only bipedal apes get to have a market in replicating or creating images. I am upset that robots making art puts people out of jobs, because it's not about the art, it's about the fact that capitalism will use AI to widen the wealth gap.

Also, as you said - it's not all generative AI! There's so many useful and integrated applications of AI that make society more streamlined. I think that humans as a species are just very afraid of the future, and they moralize that fear because it's easier than accepting that it's uncomfortable to live in the future. It always has been, always will!

[therepudiatedimmortals]

Like the same kind of criticisms that are usually parroted against any AI art content (it's lazy/soulless/aesthetically lacking/etc.) are hung ups people have against modern art and it's clear modern art has won the argument at this point despite people's insistence that it hasn't

[technecat-scratchings]

I know this post is older and I read it before and didn't have a reply to it then, but I have one now. If you're new here, let me begin by stating that I am (1) an ex-freelancer who pivoted into teaching (2) a proud card-carrying union member and (3) extremely anti genAI on all fronts.

I personally do not believe that trained labor of any kind should be automated, regardless of skill level. I believe that the only labor that should be automated are the things people are not able to do safely or without a great deal of hardship and tedium, and not things that people just don't want to pay for. There are many jobs we have already automated that we should not have like cashiers, waiters, and call centers, that benefit highly from trained human input, but have been cut back. The excuse people make in favor is that the jobs being replaced are "low skill" jobs. (Pfah. I worked customer service for 8 years, ain't nothin' "low skill" about it) that people "don't really want to do". Customer service can be a fulfilling job when you're treated well. The truth is that they automated it because it's cheaper to run a machine than pay a human.

And keep in mind, we're talking about automation here. The almost complete removal of human labor from the equation. Not a tool that helps with the labor or technology that lessens the stress of it, a complete replacement of the laborer. When a store gets self-check registers, they hire fewer customer service people. Self-checkout is a solution to a problem that would not have existed for the consumer if the stores would just pay fair wages and hire enough trained people to run the registers. They have 30 registers at a supermarket, so theoretically they could have 30 employees working those registers and there would barely be a line to wait in.

When you say that you don't get to yell at someone for 'hiring a handyman for $50 when your time is worth $200', you are talking about being in direct competition with a fellow skilled worker whose skill and experience is lower than yours, or even with a different expertise altogether. (Most) artists aren't fighting against other artists about whose labor is worth more. When a person uses AI to generate "artwork" instead of paying an artist to do it they are not being a less skilled artist, they are simply automating the task— removing the need to pay a trained artist at all— and completely devaluing art as a labor. And that is a valid reason to be angry.

I hope you can see where this is going: the automation of art, design, and performance is wholly unnecessary, not because it removes humanity from the art, but because it doesn't need to exist. Art is not greater than other labor because of its innate humanity, but it can't exist as art *without* the human aspect; it can only exist as an end product. So then, why did anyone think to automate making art at all? It wasn't because art is a gate-kept privilege— anyone can do art— but because it is seen as labor that is tedious to master and therefore ripe for automation. Why should you have to spend 30 years perfecting a craft when a machine can perfect it for you? When you can get results without any hard work (nevermind that those results are all the culmination of millions of other people's hard work that nobody paid a cent for)? It devalues the labor that artists do, turning it into a means to an end instead of respecting the process. This is where the issue lies. The companies creating these so-called "AI Solutions" are trying to convince the world that art is not worth the labor and therefore that artisans should not be paid. And it's not a huge leap to take that and apply it to any form of labor.

So, I don't believe that art is better or more human than other labor, but I do believe that art cannot exist without the humanity behind the labor. And at the same time I believe that most labor can, and does, benefit from "a human touch" and that no job should be automated away if the human part of it is important, regardless of how "skilled" that human needs to be. In short, all labor has value and therefore no labor should be devalued in favor of profit.

Look, I'm not gonna pretend that I don't get it, when it comes to AI. But it's like this:

In most parts of the US, a residential electrician works only on houses and apartments. They use romex wire, that yellow cable stuff. You run it from the panel to wherever it's going, staple it to the studs, then make up both ends. You need to know basic electrical code but mostly it's pretty simple. A fast learner could be a decent residential electrician inside a month.

I, on the other hand, am a union industrial electrician. I work primarily in hospitals, factories, and research labs. Most of our wire is run in steel conduit that has to be hand bent on the job, which is an art form in and of itself. We work with much higher voltages, much heavier wire, much more complicated equipment, and we need to know much more of the code. Our apprenticeship is 4-5 years and that's only enough to scratch the surface of everything an industrial electrician might do.

And yes - I absolutely get a little defensive when unknowing people compare me to a residential electrician. There's absolutely a knee-jerk impulse to declare that they're not *real* electricians, that they're merely a pale imitation of what I do. But I fight that impulse because it's a *bad impulse*. Resi still takes skill and work, it's just different than mine. We're both electricians. And it's better for us to work together to improve working conditions for all workers than to get into pissing contests about whose job is more "real". And both our jobs are in increasing danger due to the proliferation of low voltage systems that the average homeowner can install and repair without hiring a professional.

So yeah, I do get it. But it has been very, VERY insulting over the last year to hear people repeatedly say "AI was supposed to replace blue collar jobs, not *my* job! My job is ~special~ because it has ~humanity~!"

Your job is not special. It's not more important than my job and it's not more fulfilling to you than my job is to me. And I don't get to insist that everyone start building homes with steel conduit just so less skilled people can't be electricians, and I don't get to yell at people for hiring a handyman to replace an outlet for $50 when my time would be worth $200.

I absolutely understand the instinct that AI art can't be real art because people who use it didn't "earn" it, or that automating art is uniquely damaging in a way automating other jobs isn't because it's "supposed" to be about human expression. But please actually think about what you're implying and who you're throwing under the bus when you say shit like that, and whether it actually holds up to your other values or if it's just a knee-jerk reaction you need to examine.

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[kathaynesart]

I think something important to bring up to counter the defeatist attitude I’ve seen going around of “give up AI is inevitably going to take your art jobs” is a lack of awareness in the people making these claims. Most of them seem to not be in any sort of creative industry.

So here’s the thing. I work as a professional artist at a studio that regularly accepts art submissions from freelancers… and we REFUSE to use AI generated imagery. It’s even stated in our contracts and legal agreements.

We will not be taken advantage of by paying hundreds of dollars to AI prompters who use legally questionable means to “create” their submissions.

While many of us in the studio find AI to be ethically unsound, at the end of the day… it’s because AI is literally a LIABILITY. Avoiding it now will save us a lot of trouble and legal drama down the line.

It’s just common sense.

[local-dragon-haunt]

hey! i’m an artist and i was wondering what about the httyd crossover art made it obviously AI. i’m trying to get better at recognizing AI versus real art and i totally would have just not clocked that.

Hey! This is TOTALLY okay to not have recognized it, because I DIDN'T AT FIRST, EITHER. Unfortunately there’s no real foolproof way to distinguish real art from the fake stuff. However I have noticed a general rule of thumb while browsing these last few months.

So this is the AI generated image I used as inspiration. I will not be tagging the account that posted it because I do not condone bullying of any type, but it’s important to mention that this was part of a set of images:

This is important because one of the BIGGEST things you can use to your advantage is context clues. This is the thing that clued me in: right off the bat we can see that there is NO consistency between these three images. The art style and outfits change with every generated image. They're vaguely related (I.E. characters that resemble the Big Four are on some sort of adventure?) and that's about it. Going to the account in question proved that all they posted were AI generated images. All of which have many red flags, but for clarity's sake we'll stick with the one that I used.

The first thing that caught my eye was this???? Amorphous Blob in the background. Which is obviously supposed to be knights or a dragon or something.

Again, context clues come into play here. Artists will draw everything With A Purpose. And if what they're drawing is fanart, you are going to recognize most of what you see in the image. Even if there are mistakes.

In the context of this image, it looks like the Four are supposed to be running from these people. The thing that drew my attention to it was the fact that I Didn't Recognize The Villains, and this is because there is nothing to recognize. These shapes aren't Drago, or Grimmel, or Pitch, or any other villain we usually associate with ROTBTD. They're just Amorphous Blobs that are vaguely villain shaped.

Which brings me to my second point:

Do you see the way they're standing? There is no purpose to this. It throws the entire image off. Your eye is drawn to the Amorphous Villain Blobs in the background, and these characters are not reacting to them one bit.

Now I'm not saying that all images have to have a story behind them, but if this were created by a person, it clearly would have had one. Our group here is not telling a story, they are posing.

This is because the AI does not see the image as a whole, but as two separate components: the setting, and the description of the characters that the prompter dictates. I.E. "Merida from Brave, Jack Frost from ROTG, Rapunzel from Tangled, and Hiccup from HTTYD standing next to each other"

Now obviously the most pressing part of this prompt are the characters themselves. So the AI prioritizes that and tries to spit out something that WE recognize as "Merida from Brave, Jack Frost from ROTG, Rapunzel from Tangled, and Hiccup from HTTYD standing next to each other".

This, more times than not, is going to end up with this stagnant posing. Because AI cannot create, it can only emulate. And even then, it still can't do it right. Case in point:

This is not Hiccup. The AI totally thinks this is Eugene Fitzherbert. Look at the pose. The facial structure. The goatee. The smirk. The outfits. He's always next to Raps. Why does he have a quiver? Where's Toothless? His braids? His scar??

HE HAS BOTH OF HIS LEGS.

The AI. Cannot even get the most important part of it's prompt correct.

And that's just the beginning. Here:

More amorphous shapes.

So these are obviously supposed to be utility belts, but I mean. Look at them. The perspective is all off. There are useless straps. I don't even know what that cluster behind Jack's left arm is supposed to be.

This is a prime example of AI emulating without understanding structure.

You can see this particularly in Jack, between his hands, the "tassels" of his tunic, and the odd wrinkles of his boots. There's just not any structure here whatsoever.

Lastly, AI CANNOT CREATE PATTERNS.

Here are the side-by-sides of the shit I had to deal with when redesigning their outfits. Please someone acknowledge this. This killed me inside. THIS is most recognizable to me, and usually what I look for first if I'm wary about an art piece. These clusterfuck bunches of color. I hate them. I hate them so. much.

Anyways here's some other miscellaneous things I've noticed:

Danny Phantom Eyes

???? Thumb? (and random sword sheath)

Collarbone Necklace (corset from hell)

No Staff :( No Bow :(

What is that.

So yeah. Truly the best thing to do is to just. study it. A lot of times you aren't gonna notice anything just looking at the big picture, you need to zoom in and focus on the little details. Obviously I'm not like an expert in AI or anything, but I do have a degree in animation practices and I'm. You know. A human being. So.

In conclusion:

(Y'all should totally reblog my redesign of this btw)

[levshany]

angel from Angel Engine! the idea is amazing, the implementation is questionable but I'm a sucker for stories where a character who wanted to help the world, and the world took advantage of their kindness and hurt them. and this little guy just made me fall in love with him🥺

context: Angel Engine is a series of videos on TikTok, in the style of retro anime and the Mandella Catalog combined humanity is on the verge of self-destruction, and an angel descended to earth to save people. people caught the angel and turned him into a generator of infinite energy by "questionable implementation" of this project I meant that the visual in it was made by AI. and as an artist I am very sad about this