#Goku vs. Vegeta

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kakabeji tango

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Redraw with Donald and panchito. Because you have to beat the snot out of each other before you can be best friends.

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like why did they change where Vegeta was when Cell announced the cell games in the anime

why did they make this vegeta starting shit with yamcha instead of chillin in the lab with his family? why did they take Bulma out of the lab? Why'd they say she was Out while Dr Brief was repairing 16? Why did they change Bulma working on advanced robotics to running in late with her baby?

it's the same scene except: - Bulma's actively at work being a scientist - Vegeta's not being rude to her (or anyone else!) - Vegeta waits for Trunks instead of leaving the room - Cell interrupted the airwaves, which means Trunks and Vegeta were just hanging out with Bulma and Dr B while they were working

Those are all Great Character Details!! That the anime rails against!!

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My top 10 fights of The Dragon Ball anime franchise (official timeline at least)

1- Goku vs Tien was a great fight. Loved the high difficulty of the fight and how Goku just barely lost. Their 2nd fight was great in the sense it showed how much Goku has improved. Also showed Tien use to be a threat 😅

2- Use to rewatch Goku vs Piccolo all the time.. Definitely was a great end of series fight and fulfilling with that last blow.

3- Goku vs Vegeta is a classic. I feel both fights are good with a lot of folks forgetting the 2nd fight was great as well

4- Goku vs the Ginyu force was a dope showing of power . The way dude just effortlessly destroyed them made it so good

5- Piccolo vs 17. Definitely is a underrated fight. Them Boyz was going blow for blow and really was piccolo last good fight before Super..

6- Goku vs Cell is probably my favorite fight. It's wild how forgotten it is.. The anime did the fight extreme justice

7- Buu vs Vegeta and Goku was the fight of an era. A dope ending to the series+ that Vegeta speech 💯

8-Goku vs Beerus anime fight is downplayed crazy. I loved all the new attacks they showed Beerus using . Also we got that universe spanning punch 👊

9- Goku vs hit is probably the best 1v1 in Super. Goku surpassing his limits + time with the OST playing in the background was crazy good

10- Universe 7 vs Jiren was great. Vegeta , Frieza , 17 all had dope parts to play and not to mention Ultra Instinct.. I don't hate Jiren regardless of what y'all feel about his backstory 😅

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Goku Ultra Instinct Vs Vegeta Ultra Ego!

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To me, Vegeta is one of the most fascinating characters when it comes to character development and the heel-face turn trope. He's the main villain of an arc, then joins the heroes to fight Freeza, then suddenly finds himself hanging with and working with the heroes.

He doesn't actually turn good though. He's just in a funk because Goku beat him in a fight, and Vegeta is just biding his time until he can finally fight Goku and defeat him.

On the social hierarchy Vegeta grew up in, Goku should never be able to beat him because Goku was born a low-class Saiyan, while Vegeta was the Prince of All Saiyans. Goku defeating Vegeta was an insult more than anything and Vegeta needed to beat him to restore the social order.

Everything else is just a distraction from that goal. The only reason he would help against the Androids and Cell was because Goku had no interest in fighting Vegeta when there's a more immediate threat. If Goku won't fight because he's too busy protecting Earth, then that means helping him save Earth will get him closer to his chance to fight.

And then Goku sacrifices his life to save the Earth.

Vegeta spent years obsessed with beating Goku, and now that goal was unobtainable. Then Goku comes back to life for a day. The spark in Vegeta's eyes returns as he finally gets his chance. Then Babidi appears and tries to resurrect Majin Buu. And Goku has to save the world and can't fight Vegeta.

Vegeta does not hide his fury. He only has a 24-hour window to finally prove he's stronger than Goku and they are WASTING their time trying to stop some evil wizard and they are wasting even more time because Gohan is struggling against an opponent he could handily beat if he had been diligent in his training.

They were scheduled to fight in the 6th round of the World Martial Arts Tournament and they were stuck watching Gohan fumble around. If Vegeta or Goku had fought Dabura instead, they would already have kicked Dabura's ass, and kicked Babidi's ass, and would be back at the tournament kicking each others' ass.

So of course he took Babidi's offer. But more than that, he got to remember why he wanted to fight Goku. It had been over a decade since he made that goal. He remembered his shattered ego, his evil ambitions, and he realized he had gone from a ruthless killing machine to a family man.

He fights Goku to a draw only because Goku is more worried about Babidi and Buu. So once again, Vegeta decides to help save the Earth so there's nothing interfering with his fight with Goku.

And then Vegeta sacrifices his life to save the Earth.

[worlds-only-dbgt-enjoyer]

the best part about being, at heart, a vegeta enjoyer who's only recently learned goku is gr8 too is that i enjoy them in the same way. Like i love it when goku is all bloody and beaten and bruised and pushed to his absolute limits 🩷

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Vegeta: Can't we just drop Kakarot off some place and tell him it's Mount Rushmore? Bulma: I doubt that will work. Goku has a strange patchwork of knowledge. It's anyone's guess as to what he knows. Watch. Hey, Goku, who made Mount Rushmore? Goku: Gutzon Borglum, and his son finished it. Why do you ask? Bulma: Which state is it in? Goku: I don't know. Nevada?

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Splatoon x Dragon Ball WIP

There's some basic background information and poll under the cut if you want more details!

OMG HIII I DIDNT THINK YOUD BE HERE!!!

or you accidentally hit keep reading but that's whatever

Ok so this is FAR from finished so this is for a little background on what I'm trying to do here.

I'm loosely basing this animation off Goku and Vegeta's first fight, specifically the part where Vegeta goes Great Ape, but I haven't gotten that far yet.

In terms of character choice, I went with OG Agent 3 as Goku because they just fit the bill as main protagonist, and I'll have 4 and Neo 3 standing in for Krillin/Gohan later in the animation. Important to note that they're not 1 to 1 replacements either. Neo 3 is cast as Gohan because my Neo 3 is an Inktoling, making them a hybrid like Gohan, but they're not OG 3's kid. The rest of the NSS serve the same role as the Z-Fighters, with 4 being the best friend of 3 like Krillin is to Goku.

The Octarians, specifically the elites, are my Saiyan Army replacements because they're the best option I had as a large army force. Marina, 8, and Acht are special cases, but that goes more into the plot I have mapped out for this AU, and that's for another time. I specifically went with the Splat3 Elite Octoling for two reasons:

Vegeta is an elite saiyan so I wanted to use an elite octoling

Because I thought that the "fuzzification" where the fur grows and the eyes change to match the fuzzy ooze would work perfectly as the transition between their humanoid form and a fuzzy Kraken, which would be my stand in for the Great Ape/Oozaru transformation

So far it's been really fun to put together. I've been learning how to utilize Blender Eevee better throughout, since it lets me have a lot more control over things like lighting and shading. No telling when I'll finish this, but I'm hoping it'll be done in at least a few months. I have plenty of scenes I still have to animate, and then there's dialogue and sound effects I gotta add too, so there's still plenty more for me to add.

Actually now I'm curious-

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I have a list of characters that anyone in the DBZ saga can easily beat the ass of (Even Yamcha), but they would be absolutely, royally fucked if Cell had their data on them/Majin Buu absorbed them.

Satoru Gojo- Because Infinity + the Six Eyes would make them virtually impossible to beat.

Any Stand User- do I need to explain any further?

Mahoraga- If Cell or Buu could become immune to a phenomenon if it didn't kill him the first time you hit him with it, you'd run out of options faster than people run out of "Goku vs" topics.

Garou- That guy's potential was impossible to comprehend fully. He is able to learn Martial Arts techniques just by observing them once, even at just a glance, or reading about them. Not to mention the fact that he can fight for days on end while being poisoned, sleep deprived, and gravely injured.

Ryomen Sukuna- Malevolent Shrine.

If you have any of these to add to the list, please feel free to add them to this list.

These must be the newer anime that I haven't seen yet 😅

Cell is probably my favorite DBZ antagonist just because he really does give a challenge.

But after seeing Super... I'm beginning to think it's getting a little redundant for Goku to keep leveling up and up.

I am going to be on the real here and say it's hard to compare characters to others out of universe. From a world building standpoint, each universe has its built in limits to what characters can do. I think you can possibly compare similar universes and their characters, but I haven't really watched any of the newer anime (post 2010) because I'm such a diehard for the classics.

I hope this answers your question

Because I'm not sure what to say 😕

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"Kiao-What?!" Panel redraw of maybe my 2nd favorite fight in the entire manga series featuring my favorite technique, 'Kiaoken!'

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Bardock's Wish Saved Goku In The DBS Manga Continuity. Saiyan Resilience Saved Kid Goku In The DBS Anime Continuity.

According to the DBS manga continuity, Bardock's wish protected Goku until adulthood (link to Herms' tweet). But, events of the DBS manga continuity DO NOT apply to the DBS anime continuity.

So, when speaking about the DBS anime continuity, take the wish that DBS manga continuity Bardock made out of your mind when re-reading/re-watching DB & DBZ.

TLDR; Saiyans are just built tough. We've seen this over and over in Dragon Ball. They'e built for combat and survival and thats why they are a warrior race. They are capable of surviving from things that are fatal to other aliens & they recover faster from damage and get zenkai boost. So, what would be considered deadly to an Earthling/human, is not as deadly to a Saiyan.

And here are examples in DB that relay this info to us verbally & visually.

SAIYANS ARE BUILT FOR SURVIVAL:

The Galactic Patrol have tried & failed to kill off the Saiyans with something called "The Extinction Bomb." Saiyans can withstand something that kills most other aliens.

GOKU'S "GRAMPA" SAVED HIS LIFE:

This one is not an example of Saiyan resilience. This is Goku being metaphorically & literally saved by keeping his "Grampa" close to his heart.

Goku viewed the 4 star ball as his Grampa.

So, when Goku is saved by the 4 star ball, he says his Grampa saved him. (He even makes sure to catch it after he makes a wish on Shenron. The ball is special to him. So much so that he puts the 4 star ball on the hat of his son who he names after his Grampa.)

The 4 star ball saving Goku's life was meant to be foreshadowing of Grampa Gohan returning. Goku kept his Grampa in his heart & kept the 4 star ball (his "Grampa") over his heart. It's like spiritual protection. Then, Grampa Gohan appears in the next arc.

GOKU'S HEART TEMPORARILY STOPS:

There have been examples of Goku's superhuman feats, but this example is one of the first near death instances that shoe of his Saiyan resilience.

(One I left out is Goku drinking the super god water which was poisonous, but Goku survived it.)

Goku's heart is temporarily stopped by King Piccolo then he breathes again later. This is simply due to him being a Saiyan (another example later). Toriyama even stated that during the King Piccolo arc is when he decided Piccolo & Goku were not from this world. This is foreshadowing that Goku isn't human.

A SAIYANS' LIFE FORCE KEEPS THEM ALIVE LONGER THAN EXPECTED:

More Saiyan resilience is displayed when Raditz & Goku were pierced by Piccolo's attack. There was a hole in their chests yet they still talked and were alive for a minute or so.

VEGETA'S SAIYAN RESILIENCE:

Vegeta survives getting a hole blasted through his stomach as well. He even walks around and talks before collapsing. This is some insane life energy Saiyans have. Saiyans are truly built for survival. Even if they are dealt a fatal blow, they still may be able to kill their opponent when their back is turned before they die.

Due to Saiyan resilience, Vegeta was able to talk for a while before dying instead of dying immediately from getting shot through his heart.

Also, in Chapter 256, Vegeta says that his enemy underestimated his recuperative abilities when they thought he wouldn't gain consciousness until a half hour later. Yet another example of Saiyans being built for survival.

THE RESILIENCE OF EARTHLINGS & SAIYAN/EARTHLING HYBRIDS:

Non-Saiyans get holes in their chest and cannot speak afterwards. Meanwhile we see Goku, Raditz, & Vegeta retain consciousness longer while having holes in their chest and are still capable of speech.

On the flipside, Earthlings and a Saiyan-Earthling hybrids are not as resilient full-blood Saiyans. Yamcha getting a hole in his chest and Trunks getting a hole in his chest. (Although it was a combination of Yamcha's ki being drained + getting impaled.)

A full blood Saiyan would've survived a little longer than Trunks and been able to speak. Hybrids have the physicality of Earthlings but the power and abilities of Saiyans. Saiyan bodies are just more durable than a hybrid & most other aliens & humans.

So, that's why I say that Goku was not protected by a wish in the DBS anime continuity. For now at least. And I hope it stays this way. The series itself explains why Goku sirvived dangers when he was a kid. We don't need some wish from Bardock to protect him. And the inclusion of Bardock was Toyotaro's idea, not Toriyama's. Toyotaro said so in an interview.

And that inclusion resulted in a poor retcon, dumbing down Goku & Vegeta, as well as trying to change what Saiyan pride is. Toyotaro doesn't even know what Saiyan Pride actually is. So, I don't take the DBS manga continuity seriously. The DBS anime continuity understands the world and characters far better than Toyotaro ever could.