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chipistrate · 10 months
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Oh hey Fredbear plush
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soupmanspeaks · 3 months
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Uhhh something Something headcanon the pizzaplex staff are given little trivia note cards about the company and the 80's in general to recite to guests as they tour the place or something, but the thing about these note cards is that they're full of the most inaccurate info ever, and freddy'll overhear them sometimes and literally have to stop in his tracks to compute what was just said like
Staff: "And here we have Glamrock beauty salon! Where you can get personally styled by Roxy herself! Fun fact, shoulder pads were all the rage in the 80s! Everyone was wearing them, along with their bright neon t-shirts and legwarmers!"
Glamfred: "......I remember we wore more t-shirts and jeans, actually"
Staff: "......?"
GF: "uH.....I mean--I am sure there were some shoulder pads..!"
#fnaf#five nights at freddy’s#glammike#glamrock freddy#michael afton#silly salvaged au#i spent way too long on this post no joke#i was frantically googling “80s misconceptions”#because for what its worth that era is more mythologized than we think it is#like the pizzaplex itself is the glamorized rose tinted glasses version of the 80s#i just really like the juxtopositon lol#the more realer feeling of the period that the fnaf 4 minigames had vs SB's shiny corporate kingdom lol#ajfjisrj anyways i really like the image of freddy in a meet n greet or something#and then he'll overhear one of those fun “facts” and right as he is in the middle of saying something#he goes “Hello Superstar! are you ready for your birthdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-”#poor mike he heard misinfo being spread and he got controlled shocked for it 😔😔😔#LMAO WAIT freddy probably sends an anonymous email to the higher ups because of this#Gregory's like “does it really matter THAT much freddy??”#“gregory it is a matter of proper information being spread”#“that and also they called me 'promising heir of the fazbear fortune' when recounting history”#“i will let them know i was not promising in anyway”#“also did you hear they called my brother completley different names!”#(the cards just say “william afton's second son” so the staff improvise a bit lol)#(in this au his name is Evan (basic i know))#“gregory one staff said his name was Chris and another said his name was Norman--where did they even get Garrett from???”
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dire-kumori · 1 year
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Afton House, Living Room
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this is a formal apology for every time i've read ur fnaf theories, gone "ah... of course! yes!" and then forgotten to respond
This is a formal apology for every time I've read one of your asks, not immediately had a TQ&/E, and forgotten to respond
#The box can wait my questions that need to be answered are why there is already a body in a Fredbear suit before the Bite#and what can 'I will put you back together' mean solely within those four games#like yeah it's robot kids but it wasn't then#that isn't 'four games; one story' that's using the next game in the series to elaborate on the previous one#(and the then new addition of books)#also what the hell was Fnaf World on about but I think I'm the only person that's thought about Fnaf World in years#yeah yeah Happiest day it's about CC I got that WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE PLAYER WAS ONLY CREATED FOR THIS PURPOSE!!!#Okay yeah that's probably just an explanation for why the game exists but what the fuck is glitchy Fredbear#and why do *we* need to be told to rest#It's fucking important that they're clocks goddamnit#As of the Halloween update the story of Fnaf 4 still remained 'completely hidden'#So (I think) what Sister Location (AND THE SILVER EYES) tells us about it is the version of Fnaf 4 that the version of it that the communit#''''would accept''''#But the pieces didn't vanish into thin air after the custom night update for sister location dropped#And I think their being put together is reliant on the constant separation put between the GF kid and the rest of the MCI#And the body in the parts and service room#Could not tell you what CC saw though since I should hope that that kid's body hasn't been there for weeks#When I was talking about 'what if this isn't the first time CC had died' I mean basically dream theory with extra steps#I don't think I'm right but in literally every part of this franchise what is hammered in over an over is going into memories#and setting past events right to rest their soul#Happiest Day + Into the Pit being the biggest examples#And tangentially spirits not being fully anchored or aware after death#and reminding them of what happened to them involving crayon drawings and/or being shown their body#(The Fourth closet + Coming Home + the movie)#(and maybe Give Gifts Give Life....? it'd be stretchy)#Regardless of whether the Fnaf 4 gameplay and minigames are CC reliving the events leading to his death over and over as a wandering spirit#or pre-mortem nightmares or the effects of sound illusion disc gas on Micheal(/CC?) or any combination of the three or whatever else#I don't think the Crying Child's spirit was settled and aware until Happiest Day#(that being the first and only time a spirit is shown wearing a Fredbear mask and the kid has to put it on while the other four are already#And if for some godforsaken reason I am right about nightmare spirit journey Fnaf 4 then post Silver Eyes/Fourth Closet
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Fnaf Movie thoughts!
I wanted to ramble some of thoughts and theories I had about the Fnaf Movie.
Cause the brainrot is real and won't leave my brain.
(wow just read back that sentence. Excuse any grammar errors or dumb shit, I'm still very sick)
Below the cut will feature heavy spoilers, so unless you want to be spoiled of the major twists this movie has, I would recommend wait to read this.
I unfortunately couldn't see the movie in my theatres, cause I got horribly sick and wasn't able to get the full theatre experience.
I was able to watch on Peacock, with all my fnaf plushies with a super sinus clogged headache, so that's the mindset I had. lol
Anyway.. Movie time
I absolutely LOVED Mike and Abby. First off.
I didn't even mind a lot of time of the movie was spent AWAY from Freddy's. Because so much is just about learning about Mike and his family and connection to Abby.
Sure, we could have spent the WHOLE movie at Freddy's. But that is not what this movie is about. And it's clearly trying to tell a bigger mystery and this felt a very introduction friendly entry point to anyone confused about the fnaf lore.
I love how completely obsessed Mike is with Dream theory. To the point he's taking heavy duty sleeping pills on his job that he clearly doesn't need and just is doing it so he can relive his dreams/fabricated memories.
The intro credits with the 8-bit style graphics of the minigames in fnaf2-4??? Like bro? I cried. That was so iconic and they fill in the backstory for the purple guy, who actually appears as his sprite??? Like... Man iconic.
Also... Dude... Mike Schmitt in the movie is like... what the Fans wanted Mike in the games to be for YEARS. Like... Mike in the games is nothing. He's a silent face. We know so little about him, and everything else is purely speculative. Even the whole "he was foxy bro and has regret over his brother" ...That's all theory and not confirmed. As far as we know, Crying child and his brother might not even be Afton kids.
But this Mike is EXACTLY the motivations we wanted Mike to have? If that makes sense? He laments his brother was taken at a young age and expresses regret and motivation to want to get him back. he has the motivations that the fandom built for him for years and ran with it, and I LOVE THAT.
FNAF Movie actually gives good reasons why Mike comes back every night, as said in Living Tombstone's iconic song "why do you want to stay?" Cause of his regrets with his brother and his obsession with dream theory and doesn't realize the animatronics are a threat until like... night four.
THE ANIMATRONICS?? THE PUPPETS??? THEY LOOK SO GOOD??? HECK YEAH!!!!
I SCREAMED when I recognized Matpat's voice, and then I saw his face. Reconized him for his voice WAY before I saw his face. I didn't think he'd have a speaking or face cameo and get to say his iconic "it's just a theory" line and about food too??? King shit.
Letting the animatronics have moments where they can just be cute and friendly as well as creepy and bloodthirsty is so great! I want to give them all pets.
THE CHILD ACTORS ARE ALL SO GOOD! To the point you don't even notice! It's often hard to get children to play a convincing performance, but these children acted really well! They must have a real talented director who knew how to get the best of their child actors. You don't even realize that the child actors are great, cause they're so good it's unnoticeable. AMAZING
VANESSA BEING WILLIAM AFTON'S DAUGHTER IS NOTHING SHORT OF BRILLIANT!!!!
I MEAN, I SCREAMED WHEN SHE SAID "William Afton My father"
I was screaming about this in my group chat.
I was screaming for a thousand years.
AND IT makes sense why the cops never found the bodies. Vanessa is a cop! She's covering for her father!
I absolutely LOVE what a girl failure Vanessa is too!
Like she shows up, HEAVILY flirts with Mike (like she was laying it on so thick my demisexual ass was picking up on her vibe) and just shows up to give him exposition on the FNAF lore. fheogheahf. Like. It's great.
(no doubt she was flirting heavily with Mike at the start due to manipulation from her father, I do believe it grows to genuine fondness later)
I've heard people complain about her flipflop nature... BUT THAT's the POINT!
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(a literal arcade game in security breach.)
She let Abby play with the animatronics, knowing it was dangerous. Her original plan was to kill Mike, but she changes her plans when she sees he has a kid. (who she thought was his daughter at first) It was only after Abby got injured by Accident, she realized that what a danger she posed by brining them here at all. She only threatened to shoot Mike because she hoped that such an extreme threat would get him to quit. She even tells him about how many security guards quit. But it doesn't.
She even said she tried to warn in her own way. She's terrified of her father. And we get deep foreshadowing about that throughout the movie.
I really hope that in some sequels we will get to see Vanny at some point. Maybe even Springtrap and Vanny working together in the same movie??? CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS?!?!? I WOULD GO FERAL
Anyway, Vanessa is such a girl failure and my girl blorbo. I support her and her woman's wrongs
The minor look of regret after Will stabs his daughter... peak cinema.
The springlock scene... The quiet of the stabs, giving such a realistic collapse... the "I always come back" ...Embracing the monster he knows he is. He is the mask. He isn't hiding behind the mask, like he is being Steve. he is the mask now. Just... Chefs kiss.
The animatronics dragging springtrap away mirrors the ending of Silver Eyes so well, and I'm glad, because that was the best part of the Silver eyes. <3
THE LIVING TOMBSTONE GOT TOP BILLING FOR THE FIRST CREDITS SONG! PERFECT
Garret is 100% going to be the Puppet in the Movie Series. He was the one taken in the car, the spelling out in the minigame sounds at the very end says: "COME FIND HIM" And after Living Tombstone ends, the credits music fades into Grandfather's clock music box... Puppet's song..... Garret will be the Puppet in this universe and I so look forward to that.
I enjoyed the movie. I'm glad that they left the overarching mystery of Garret open to be explored in the sequel.
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nightmare-foundation · 4 months
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ok enlighten me what is your glitchtrap michael theory . i’ve NEVER seen anyone else say this im so curious, i gotta hear the reasoning
Okay sorry this took a while to answer, I needed to put together my thoughts on this
Basically where I started with the 'Michael is Glitchtrap' theory is basically like. Process of elimination kinda?
I noticed that Glitchtrap didn't fit either William OR the Mimic. Glitchtrap is, well, not robotic from my perspective. He's sentimental for one (putting together the staffbots to look like the Aftons, the SL living room, Vanessa and Gregory directly referencing and paralleling Elizabeth and CC, etc), and doesn't really act like an ai program built to mimic things, unlike the Mimic seen in Ruin.
On top of that, Glitchtrap holds back. He has explicit rules; you have to find him, put his tapes together, and consent to merging with him (this is important). If this was William, he wouldn't bother putting together all these rules. Not only that, but Vanessa, Gregory, and Cassie are all still alive. And Glitchtraps appearance too- he's a costume, not a springlock suit. William always explicitly associated himself with spring Bonnie. Not the character, but the actual springlock suit itself.
Also, Glitchtrap knows things neither William nor the mimic WOULD know. The biggest clue is the Exotic Butters- how would William, and thus the Mimic, know about something only Michael would know?? And it goes deeper.
The color theory doesn't match up, either. William went from yellow (Midnight Motorist) -> purple (fnaf 2 and 3 minigames) -> yellow (springtrap). It's pretty clear that after William dies, he's associated with YELLOW now. His story is also over too, this was established with UCN.
Michael is sort of the opposite. The first time we see him, if you don't count fnaf 4, he's wearing purple. The next time in ffps, he's wearing yellow and blue. The natural next step is that he'd be associated with purple again. There's a LOT going on with the color theory too (yellow can mean both royalty and sickness, purple can Also be royalty and corruption, etc), in a way that connects to their stories.
Glitchtrap is purple; or, at least, his true form seen in PQ is. He's depicted as a costume deliberately; the yellow throws you off, it's not the truth. But take it off and you get a big black and purple blob. Not only that, it's a COSTUME. Michael has always, always been associated with masks, which are a part of costumes. William is associated with springlock animatronics, not costumes, even if they double as one, which says a lot to his own character.
Not only THAT, but everything since Help Wanted 1 and even the AR game has been referencing Sister Location, fnaf 4, and FFPS. Michael is the certain protagonist of ALL of these games, both directly confirmed or hinted at (yes fnaf 4 is Michael's nightmares after he actually got tortured by William post CC death, you'll have to tear this out of my cold dead hands). Michael is also repeatedly referenced in Security Breach, with the constant references to butters in sticky notes, again, only something he would know.
Also, of the main cast, Foxy is the only one that's missing. Foxy is VERY important to Michael and his character, and the different iterations of Foxy, especially Funtime Foxy and Ringmaster Foxy, are especially important. Yes I do think that each of the Funtimes represent the Aftons, and FT Foxy represents Michael. So we can gleam that Michael, similarly to his father, is a performer. He's the leader; the captain, the ringmaster, the older brother. This is hammered in with his monologue and the Security Logbook. This fits in exactly with Glitchtrap. He's theatrical, he performs, he pretends.
As for HOW Michael would've become Glitchtrap, I believe the circuit boards FazEnt got were from the computer in the ffps office. William is trapped in UCN, the Mimic was still trapped behind the wall in Ruin, and I don't think the mimic1 program existed at the time (not to mention Glitchtraps behavior doesn't fit mimic1).
Michael easily could've possessed those circuit boards on accident. You might be asking- well, Michael was dead, all of his Remnant would've burned up. And, honestly, I don't think he actually DID die at the end of SL.
Baby explicitly says "You won't die". The Scooper also injects Remnant into you, which is known to keep you alive and heal you. As for the rotting, that can easily be explained away as Michael literally being one giant walking infected wound. The scooper tore him apart stomach to throat, and Ennard went inside, tearing him apart internally. When wounds are bad enough, they rot, especially when they're left to fester and get infected. Besides, it would've been impossible to possess his own corpse. Remnant is best conducted by metal, not rotting flesh. And I doubt Ennard would've left enough of itself behind for Michael to actually control his own body.
So, Michael was likely actually alive and fully healed by FFPS. Thus, when he burned to death, he would've ended up possessing the nearest electronic things- the circuit boards in the computer. Whether or not he actually wanted to die (I don't think he did) matters; he possessed it anyways.
As for why he's now the main antagonist of the new games- well, I don't think he's evil. I think he's being affected by Agony.
Since the blob is one massive ball of leftover Agony from the rest of the animatronics, I think it's possible Glitchtrap has his own Agony too, especially if it's true that Remnant turns into Agony when burned up like I think it does. It'd explain why he's all black and goopy, since I believe Agony is described as a black, tar-like substance.
Some of Glitchtraps appearance would also be explained by Michael being him, such as the tears that are on the suit and his true form. Usually, lost souls are what have those tear tracks, like the dead kids. William has never been depicted with those same marks, EVER.
A lot of the above also explains why I don't think Glitchtrap is evil. I don't think Michael is fully sane, and Glitchtrap has a duality theme going on (purple and green are opposites on the digital spectrum). Plus, as I said, he actively holds back. He's cruel yes, and he's killed a fuck ton of people, but he sets rules and let's Vanessa, Gregory, Cassie, and for a time, Cassies dad, all live.
Also, he's a WAY more successful killer than William. He's smart, and while I wouldn't call William an idiot, he's not exactly good at hiding things. He's arrogant, believes he'll never die ("I always come back!"), he's theatrical to his own detriment, etc. Even in SL it was extremely obvious he was already being questioned, and was nearly caught and jailed. He died to CHILD GHOSTS. And Vanessa and Glitchtrap have never been suspected, not ONCE.
People really like to act like Michael is stupid, but he's FAR from it. He knew what was happening in SL, and pieced things together Really Fucking Quickly (in less than a WEEK). He also likely suspected Williams crimes beforehand, and if he hadn't in fnaf 1, he definitely figured it out in SL. He also very likely created fnaf 3; the building matches ffps's confusing labyrinth layout, clearly set up to burn down, the collection of Fazbear stuff, the audio lures, and the "to you, from working architect" in the security logbook. And then he helped Henry with the FFPS location, and possibly built the Rockstar animatronics (I say this bc it's a mix of Williams and Henry's styles of animatronics; the hard outer casing, extra abilities i.e. Freddy's coin thing, but they're cute, like Henry's, BUT the Michael thing is that they're.. well, Rockstars. I also think Michael made the plans for the Glamrocks but FazEnt stole them for these reasons lmao). Michael is far, FAR from an idiot, and all of these show he's actually REALLY fucking smart, likely smart enough that William felt threatened by him (part of why he was likely sent to the SL bunker). Glitchtrap is also clearly Very Intelligent.
Another part is that Glitchtrap doesn't hurt children. In one of the SB endings, on the newspaper it says 'missing locals', not missing children. Gregory and Cassie were never directly harmed by him either. Cassie was completely safe in the mall pre-Ruin, and Gregory seemed fine too, if possessed by Glitchtrap. It's never stated that CHILDREN are hurt, only the staff.
Also Glitchtrap is,, very sentimental. Neither William nor the Mimic would be sentimental about the Aftons, but Michael WOULD. He cares deeply about his family if SL is any indication, and would explain his favoritism towards Gregory, the CC lookalike.
Glitchtrap being Michael would ALSO explain why Cassies dad (aka bonniebro) was spared, long enough for the spirits in the staffbots to get JEALOUS. After all, what exactly makes him so special? He's Michael's old friend. Neither William nor the Mimic would care.
Also springtrap is consistently depicted as terrifying and beastly. Especially in hw2, where the place burns down and Springtrap hunts you down. William would've shown himself as the pinnacle of his inventions, not a nightmarish monster.
Oh, and another note, but almost every time William is in the game, whether in the background or not, Golden Freddy aka Cassidy is always there. Fnaf 1, 2, and 3 ('shadow freddy') follow this formula, but she's not there in fnaf 4, or SL, though I imagine she's not there in FFPS because William is already trapped, and for good this time.
The same goes for Michael and the Puppet/Charlie. Charlie is in fnaf 1 (implied in fnaf 2), fnaf 2 (the party Jeremy got bit at was for Michael), fnaf 3, fnaf 4, and FFPS. The exception is SL, but I believe it's because William is dead by then.
Notice how Cassidy doesn't show up past fnaf 3, but Charlie keeps showing up as the plushies. There's near constant references to her in every. Single. Steel Wool game. It's hard to NOT see it it's so often. So it's very likely Michael is still around, and only hammers in that he's likely Glitchtrap.
Also, writing-wise, it makes sense for him to become the new antagonist since FNAF was soft-rebooted. Typically the old protagonist is still important in soft reboots, whether that's as an important historical figure or the next games/series/movies antagonist, or a driving point for the next protagonist (think Peter Parker and Tony Stark). It also fits thematically, since it'd be a really weird spin around for the new villain to be an AI (doesn't fit fnafs formula) and having William be the villain Again would just be lazy writing.
Collapses. Okay I probably missed some things BUT. That's my main points. There's WAY more that goes into a much bigger theory (like PQ is Obviously Vanessa being freed from Glitchtrap, fnafs timeline, the ghost kids are back and are wanting to free Michael, the SW games are based on I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, etc), but that's mostly what I have for Glitchtrap Michael.
Feel free to look up everything I'm talking about, I haven't bothered to put anything up but I have all of my facts straight. I've considered pretty much every other option in order to TRY to disprove my own theory, but every single new game and book only keeps proving me right unfortunately LMAO.
I've had this theory since like... before Ruin. I've had So much time to get everything straight. I'm sad no one else sees what I see lol.
Have fun with this :3
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vilsoo · 2 years
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THEM PLAYING FNAF⌇ft. ghost, soap, alejandro, price, gaz, and rudy
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notes;; no i will not elaborate. here are my silly little headcanons of 141/ghost team playing fnaf <33
GHOST
• he’s actually determined to beat the damn game, doesn’t keep up with the game lore
• doesn’t even feel bothered the slightest by the jumpscares
• he enjoys playing fnaf 4 and ucn beating 50/20 mode
• when playing ucn 50/20, he’d check all cameras, death coin funtime foxy, close doors, put freddy mask, check vents, save power, all of that shit in less than 1.5 seconds
• gets intrigued by springtrap because of his design
• sympathizes with c.c./evan when he sees the cutscenes and the minigames in fnaf 4
SOAP
• he definitely gets jumpscared after focusing so hard on trying to make it through the night
• gets very frustrated and competitive when ghost manages to make it to 6am with no sweat
• is very creeped out by all the animatronic designs except for foxy from fnaf 2, who is his favorite
• doesn’t know much about the lore either, all he knows is that the animatronics are possessed by 5 murdered children
• when he played sister location for the first time with ghost, it suddenly became his favorite out of the rest of the games because of the storyline
• he’d rather play all the games with ghost more than playing alone
ALEJANDRO
• yeah he can’t play any of the games for shit, doesn’t gaf about lore either
• starts cursing when he gets jumpscared by 1am, rudy has to walk him through it
• is flabbergasted when he finds out about el chip in ucn
• thinks all the animatronics are ugly as shit
• he’s not even scared about the game, he just doesn’t know how to make it through the nights and it frustrates him
• as he plays more because of rudy, overtime he’ll eventually start to like the game and find it fun
PRICE
• doesn’t know shit about the game, only played because gaz showed him
• would probably keep the doors closed the whole time in fnaf 1 and then gets confused when his power runs out
• also thinks the animatronics are ugly as shit, gets mad when gaz points at freddy and says “thats you”
• would probably think this is a kids game, gaz doesnt mention to him the dark lore and storyline
• stays too long lurking on the cameras, actually gets scared when he flips it off and immediately gets jumpscared
• the best thing he did so far is close the door preventing chica from getting in
GAZ
• he definitely knows his lore and most of the fnaf timeline from watching matpat’s theories
• his favorite games from the franchise would be fnaf 4 and sister location, least favorite is security breach
• does some commentary and talks to himself whenever he plays, also likes to make fun of the animatronics for not catching him
• his favorite animatronics would be funtime foxy because of their design and golden freddy because of their lore
• sadly he can’t beat 50/20 on ucn unlike ghost, he’s tried several times but he just can’t
• has enjoyed playing fnaf dlc and other fanmade games like the joy of creation and dayshift at freddy’s
RUDY
• he knows everything about fnaf including the entire lore but is actually too scared to play it
• instead he watches coryxkenshin and markiplier playing all the fnaf games and fanmade games
• his favorite animatronics are springtrap, foxy, and toy bonnie
• he unironically listens to fnaf songs, has a whole playlist. his favorite fnaf songs would be “got no time” and “stay calm”
• secretly likes security breach, not just because its the least scariest but because of glamrock freddy and roxanne wolf
• can only manage to play the first two games because of the nostalgia from his middle school fnaf phase
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idsfantasy · 9 months
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Now that Help Wanted 2 seemingly confirmed MCI83 and Charlie6th, what do you think Henry was talking about in his HRY223 monologue?
Since I've already talked about my thoughts on this this, I'm just gonna copy and paste my responses instead of typing it up again lol. Hope that's okay!
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I'm also noticing now that if you start farthest back in Pizza Sim, you get Charlie, Susie, Fritz, Gabriel. Jeremy and Cassidy it's hard to tell since Cassidy's appears higher elevation but also a bit bigger, but it can be interpreted as farther forward to match with PQ4. But Charlie's is still furthest back as she was the first.
So basically, I take the FNAF 2 minigame and Henry's speech to be more solid evidence than Princess Quest 4 for death order. It could be correct for the MCI kids, but I don't think that Charlie was after the others at all.
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achillean-knight · 9 months
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MY INTERPRETATION OF SCRAPTRAP - GORE WARNING OBVIOUSLY -
Honestly, I did this just for the fun of it because of a theory video I watched detailing the OP's thoughts on why Scraptrap... looks like he does. I like Scraptrap, he's goofy but I saw potential, so I gave a crack at it :3! This took me roughly 4 days? maybe 3, to complete, Not 100% satisfied with the result but it was a blast to draw! Oh, and little theories and extras for why I did what I did with this design under the cut.
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(Also, Tumblr quality is ABYSMEL OH MY GOD)
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The text reads as follows: "Because of similarities, I used aspects of Golden Freddy in my design. Importantly, the more "Golden" parts are Golden Freddy, while the dark green is Spring Bonnie. (Look at Springtrap.)"
That's basically all you need to know! But other things I wanna go into more about:
The Muzzle is a weird shape that scarily resembles that of Withered Golden Freddy. We haven't seen a rabbit like Animatronic with a square-shape like that, reserved only for withered G.Freddy & withered Freddy. I wanted to emphasize the colour of the muzzle to be more golden like Scrap-traps muzzle, to both highlight its drastic change from Springtrap (where he didn't even have a different muzzle colour) and to further bring home the idea it's Golden Freddy. Also he has buck teeth probably bc Peepaw wanted it to be more rabbit like lmao
It'd make sense for Golden Freddy to be used for the repairment of the suit due to the character being from the same restaurant as Spring Bonnie, so they'd be made of the same materials and would probably be easiest to use for repairs. I also believe that Golden Freddy would be at the same location as Springtrap in FNAF 3, due to the easter egg of either shadow or golden Freddy appearing by your side in the office (idk what one it is). If that's Golden Freddy, then if the Spring Bonnie suit could survive the fire of Fazbears Fright, then why can't the Golden Freddy suit?
My last point to make about G. Freddy being used in my design, is that apparently people theorise Cassidy is the one tormenting Will in hell. After the crying child moved on in the Happiest Day minigame, Cassidy remained. IDK if it's possible, but if Will merged some of the golden Freddy suit with his own, could the soul follow suit? (Kinda a stretch but it'd explain why William is haunted by G.Freddy and also has weirdly similar design elements from Golden Freddy in his Scrap Trap design.)
Nonetheless, this was just to test my skills. Happy but not with the design overall, I like the more withered look with random pops of colour here and there to differentiate from the original Springtrap. Admittedly, I rushed the rest at the end (the legs) and it shows. Not happy with that choice, but I wanted to move on from this project, honestly.
I think the main thing I wanted to keep was the bones tbh, hence why you see more than just his skull and fingers this time around. Also yes! Goofy arm returns due to the overwhelming "Yes" on my poll JHGFDSH
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daandyli0n · 1 month
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alright besties, prepare yourselves.
it's time for:
Why I Personally Believe That The MCI + Charlie's Death Happened PRE-1983
(tl;dr - there's things from Fnaf 4 that have been haunting me for years, i don't really like the books (for several reasons), and i actually think it would make MORE sense if the MCI + Charlie were the first deaths)
alright. let me lay out things in order here:
Number 1: "But...we already have a death year, it's 1985!"
okay...let me put this as simply as i can:
first off, The Novels: these are the books where Charlie's a robot. along with other weird shit.
second, Into The Pit: not only is the Incident described completely differently, it's. The Fazbear Frights books. there's a lot of shit in there that, while some of it may connect to the games, i'd personally argue that most of it doesn't. Need I Point To Fazgoo?
also: the books and games are supposed to be separate universes to my knowledge. while events and things may line up, not everything is gonna be exactly the same.
ALSO ALSO: in the movies, the year is 1987. the death year is 1987. if that's not some evidence for the MCI year potentially being inconsistent by universe, then i don't know what is. Why Would They Make The Movie's MCI Year Different When They Could've Confirmed It?
Number 2: The Weirdness Of The Fredbear Plush
before i hear anyone say "But It's William Speaking Through A Walkie-Talkie!" please just listen to me on this
while i do agree that this has a lot of evidence behind it...there are still things that William speaking through the plushie just...doesn't really explain. to me, anyway.
for example...why does it seem to teleport? specifically stuff like it Being A Flower and suddenly ending up in the sewers.
also...this thing seems to know more about CC than i think William would like. logically be able to know, even if he was using the plush to spy on him. plus...we SEE William in the Fnaf 4 minigames...helping someone into a suit. we see nothing like a walkie-talkie with him, and if he were trying to keep an eye on CC...why aren't we shown that? he seems more concerned with helping another employee than keeping an eye on his son. also, if William's trying to keep CC away from animatronics to keep him safe, as is the common belief with this theory...why would he tell his son to go run past the animatronics to find help? especially if he's, y'know....RIGHT THERE??
also...you know what CC's running away from? someone in a springlock suit. and whoever is talking to him specifically says something along the lines of "You know what will happen if he catches you!" which....why would William say that? why would William imply that something bad's gonna happen to CC if CC gets caught by that guy? when, for all we know (and is most likely), he's just doing his job?
unless, of course...whoever is talking to CC was "caught" by someone in a springlock suit and then hurt/killed afterwards, and they're trying to make sure that the same fate doesn't befall him, too.
i also saw a guy mention this in a theory, but...we also don't see the plushie in this scene at all. which could also imply that it's not a walkie-talkie or anything, but maybe a spirit.
also, the final cutscene of Fnaf 4: one thing that never made sense to me was the "WE are still your friends" comment. if this is William...for one thing, if it WAS William the whole time...he's also been telling his son this whole time that his older brother, Michael, hates him. if the 'We' he's referring to is him and Michael...then we already have a problem. but the 'We' he's referring to also can't be CC's other plushies; William can't see into CC's mind, and thus can't know what's going in CC's last moments. he doesn't know that CC is watching his plushies fade into darkness, how could he?
so...who do i think is speaking through the plush? long story short; whoever the Golden Freddy/Fredbear MCI kid is.
heck, if you wanna argue that the SLIGHTLY different text colors for Fredbear in the final cutscene mean that someone else is talking, i can still explain it! that's Charlie. think about it, it would still make sense if it were her! she's the one who 'gave life' to the other kids, and that's effectively what the speaker in that cutscene is promising CC.
also, if the plushies represent the other MCI kids, as this theory implies...this means that CC probably knew them all before they died. making his comment about his plushies, "These are my friends," that much more depressing.
this also gives a potential explanation for "What [CC] saw"...but we'll get there in a bit.
Number 3: The Pigtail Girl Dialogue's Been Haunting Me
let me start out with what the Pigtail Girl Dialogue is, for those unaware:
"You'd better watch out! I hear they come to life at night. And if you die, they hide your body and never tell anyone. Why do you look so worried? See you at the party! Ha ha ha!" (< you'll understand what the bolded part is for later, trust me)
i've seen a couple of different explanations for this:
one is that she's referring to springlock suits, specifically that the kids saw people being helped into the suits and that this is where the rumors started.
another is that she's referring to a springlock failure, and that the "hiding bodies" part is referring to the company covering it up.
but here's the thing...neither of these would explain how the "come to life at night" part of the rumor started. because these would've likely been things witnessed during the day.
like, i've seen no one bring up this whole thing at all. there's not a lot of explanations i've seen that explain what PG could be referencing with this that are more satisfying than her referencing the animatronics moving around and killing guards post-MCI. like?? why do people not talk about this??
Number 4: "But isn't Afton's motive-?" SHUT.
FIRST OFF, WE DON'T TECHNICALLY KNOW WHAT AFTON'S ACTUAL MOTIVE IS. WE'VE HAD TO GUESS WHAT IT IS.
like!! in the Novels, i don't think it's fully explained what Afton's motive for Charlie's murder was. maybe it was, but i've never heard it.
in the games, we're not even given too much indication of a potential motive for Afton. we just have to guess it was the Bite of '83, and it was either his grief or desire to bring his son from the dead that motivated him (at least at first).
i've only really seen it recently where theorists seem to finally be bringing up that perhaps William was just...always fucked up. maybe he never needed a reason, he just did it because he could.
heck, some people have headcanoned that William was just drunk and pissed off the night that Charlie died, and i've seen it range from William accidentally hit her while drunk driving and that's what killed her, to William just being in a drunken rage that night and he just. killed her, maybe before he even realized what he'd done. maybe he was pissed at Henry, who the fuck knows.
long story short, no, we technically don't have a clear motive for William.
Number 5: "But how could Fredbear's still be open? Wouldn't the suits still be in use? How did no one find the body?"
okay, hear me out:
William Moved The Body Somewhere Else.
like...we've got implications that the GF MCI kid might've been springlocked and killed (Fredbear's twitching in UCN is...incredibly similar to Springtrap's twitching in Fnaf 3. both in the trailer and in the minigame where he gets springlocked).
so it's a possibility that William springlocked the kid and then dumped the body somewhere else.
other thing that points to this: the empty suit that either seems to have wires or hair sticking out. i think Dual Process Theory pointed out that if these were wires, then we would've also seen them on the Springbonnie suit that William was helping the employees into. so of course, that then points those things sticking out being hairs.
also, the Fredbear MCI kid's death always seems to be implied to be different somehow. in the "Give Gifts, Give Life" minigame, the fifth kid isn't seen until the end, where they teleport in from seemingly nowhere. it's almost like, for some reason, the fifth kid wasn't there with the other kids at Freddy's, and they had died somewhere else, but were connected to the MCI anyway due to the similarities in their case.
Number 6: "But the Faz-Tokens-" S H U T.
i actually have another way to explain why the tokens would say 1983! and this is actually an idea i got from a friend of mine when we talked about it irl.
the idea is that Freddy's didn't necessarily open in 1983, but that 1983 is when the company specifically was founded.
my friend said that it could've been a thing where Freddy's didn't have their own personal tokens for the arcade at the time, but once they got enough money and Fazbear Entertainment as a company was created in 1983, then they could make these little custom tokens.
so long story short: the tokens have another potential explanation.
Number 7: Other Reasons For This Version Of The Timeline To Make Sense
the MCI is always described as taking place "many years ago," or treated like it's been quite a while since they happened. even in Fnaf 2, Phone Guy just says says that they left the "old place" to rot for "quite a while," but...that's still vague. why not make it more specific in the games? why not put dates on the newspapers?
i am of the opinion that the newspaper articles we see in Fnaf 1 are all close in date, considering that the first two mention the MCI and the third mentions the blood and mucus...but i think that the fourth newspaper article was printed later than the others. specifically, that one was written when the original location closed in 1985. why do i think this? because the final newspaper refers to the MCI as taking place "many years ago." but why would it not be about the closure of the Fnaf 1 location? well, a couple of reasons:
for one, the newspaper immediately before it references the whole "blood and mucus" thing. normally, i'd think that this was just the kids doing paranormal stuff to get someone to find/discover their bodies...but it also mentions mucus. blood by itself is one thing, that can be written off as something paranormal. blood and mucus implies that this is from where the bodies were starting to decay a little bit. at the time when Fnaf 1 was taking place, the blood would've dried a long time ago, and likely any mucus, too. and we see nothing like Paranormal Blood-Leakage in Fnaf 1, so i'm taking this as a sign that this newspaper was written around the time of the initial incident.
another thing is that if the other three articles are all about the MCI at around the time it happened...wouldn't it be odd for there to just be an article amongst them that's much closer to present time than the others?
so yeah, long story short: the MCI happening pre-1983 even fits with how the Incident is described in canon as being "many years ago."
Finally, All Together Now:
here's the timeline with this thing -
at some point, pre-1983 (perhaps a year or two before), William was driving home from a bar, incredibly drunk. for reasons that aren't entirely clear, Charlie is locked outside of either of Freddy's or Fredbear's, depending on where you think the Puppet was at the time. William kills Charlie while he's drunk, either by accidentally hitting her/running her over, or by getting out and killing her. she is left/dumped in the alley afterwards and then goes on to possess the Puppet, who crawled outside to find her.
after this, for unclear reasons, William kills again, first killing four children at Freddy's (potentially unbeknownst to him, friends of his youngest son), before killing a fifth at Fredbear's by springlocking them.
however, his youngest son ended up witnessing this murder, and it traumatized him (maybe William had been in the suit, and that's why CC only seems traumatized by the animatronics specifically. he not only witnessed one of his friends getting springlocked, but he saw another animatronic responsible for the murder) (< yes, this is the thing i was implying earlier)
^ whether William was aware of this is up to you.
William disposes of the body so that nobody who used the suit would find them.
however, the fifth MCI kid would not just haunt the suit like the others. they possessed the Fredbear plush to communicate with their friend and keep him safe...hopefully.
fast forward to the Fnaf 4 minigames: Michael bullies his brother, and CC is faced with constant reminders of the loss of his friends, with rumors spreading about the animatronics at Freddy's coming to life at night and killing guards, only for the deaths to be covered up by the company. all the while, the spirit of one of his friends watches over him.
then Michael fucks up, leaving CC in the hospital.
in his coma, either the spirit of the Fredbear MCI kid or Charlie come to him, promising to help him. as Michael tearfully apologizes to his dying brother, CC is comforted by being told that his friends still care for him, that they're still there. and the spirit talking to him promises to put him back together. in the only way they know how to.
he flatlines, but goes on to possess Fredbear with the MCI kid.
anyway, that's just my thoughts on Pre-1983 MCI, at least in the canon games. this ain't about my Rewrite.
( @that-darn-clown and @hello-there-world incase either of y'all want to see this :] )
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roxanneslosteyes · 7 months
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There is spoilers for TWF 4, ik there are some people who haven't watched it yet
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I cannot be the only one who saw "Bon" giving the gift of the Banny mask to Susan and my brain thought back to Puppet's minigame back in FNAF 2 with Puppet giving the gifts of life to the missing children.
Idk why my brain thought of it
I guess because I am an fnaf fan idrk 😭
My brain thinks of some random stuff. Ik both of this are just their own take of "Gift of life" (I think it is the gift of life I could be wrong tho)
Idk if anyone else saw this scene and their brain went back to Fnaf 2 or is it just me?
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chipistrate · 1 year
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Missing Children cover-up replacement theory
DISCLAIMER: THIS IS JUST ME HAVING FUN!!!! I don't even fully believe what I'm about to say I'm just saying shit because I had an idea and I want to throw it out there! A lot of shit I'm about to say could be very inaccurate, I could be misremembering things, and I'm completely aware of this- I'm just writing out my thoughts and think this is an interesting thing to think about! Please don't take this too seriously! :]
Anyway, onto the actual theory- (under cut cause it's kinda long)
The kids on the walls in the endo basement could've been designs used to replace the missing kids we all know because Fazbear Entertainment couldn't use the actual dead kids without fear of a lawsuit, and a lawsuit for using the dead kids they're trying to cover up is the last thing they'd want because it'd just bring the tragedy back into the limelight, which is the exact opposite of what they're trying to do with the cover up games-
Gonna preface this with; do I think this matters? Do I think this'll ever be brought up again? No. I don't think this means anything for the future of the franchise, or anything about the dead kids coming back or anything like that- it's just interesting to think about!
Here's my evidence please don't kill me;
The original image I made to try and explain this to my friends:
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And here's some images I made to try and better explain the connections: (below I say "we haven't seen any of the MCI outside of their detailless ghost forms" but I meant to say "dead kids" in general)
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Like I said earlier; even IF this is intentional, even IF I'm correct, I don't think this is important- if it was it probably would've been brought up by now in some way. The design similarities were probably either coincidences or just silly details the artist put in for fun- I just think it's a fun easter egg and an interesting theory and I wanted to throw this theory I made in like 5 minutes about 2 hours ago out there for the hell of it! Just somethin silly goofy yknow
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cl0zzie · 2 months
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Okay, so you know how almost everyone either headcanons or theorize Michael possessing Glamrock Freddy?
Well I can though "what instead Glamrock Freddy, Mike possesses Helpy"
Because I see Michael being more connected to Helpy then Glamrock Freddy.
I mean in Pizzaria Simulator I personally believe we play as Michael (makes sense narrative wise) even though we never see him.
But you know who we do see? Helpy. In store when Mike buys things Helpy is there, in minigames Helpy plays them when Michael tests them, in the Night Shift Helpy on top of the computer.
Now these aren't the only reasons why I headcanon Milpy (I couldn't think of a good name:/)
With how Steel Wool is using Helpy alot more we see insite of Helpy as a Character.
In HW: Helpy is just kinda there... While yes he doesn't play a major roll we see little gifs in loading screen where he performing a task of a level. But then that when the Dreadbear DLC happens
HW(DLC): in DB Helpy can be found in Foxy Pirate ride Helpy is there as a sorta guide on where the player goes ( shoot him and he'll flip around and player is tooken to a secret area)
And Mike is connected to Foxy (He wears a Foxy mask in FNAF 4, canonically gets jump scared by FT Foxy in night 3, and losely if you like The idea of Mike being Foxy in the 'Go, Go, Go' minigame.
Helpi is something I can't really explain since I don't know if he just hacked by Glitchtrap or if Helpi he's own person... So Imma skip that.
HW2: Helpy is shown to kinda just be Faz Bear's employee insert of sorta (if that makes since) and test dumby.
(Also in the Medical minigames a add on the tv plays a Ad of "Pickels Vs Popcorn" and Michael eat popcorn and in pizzaria simulate he can get sponsored or buy pickles.)
But moving on is where I want to talk about a little scene in HW2 after the player takes Helpy prize thing (That Helpy was telling them to "not waste time" on the tv screen) after that and a minigame Helpy can be seen on a screen Sitting on a beach sipping a Exotic Butter soda, in a book called the Survival Logbook (who is owned by Michael) he does these little doodles and one of them is a drawing of a beach.
Now was this mostly loosely strung together conwesidents (probably)
But god damnit I wanted to justify a stupid headcanons I had for months now.
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chuchustraydog · 2 months
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I think i have a fnaf timeline.
DISCLAIMER: please dont create an angry mob of people trying to crucify a 16 year old for making a fun little Theory about fnaf , thank you. Another thing , i will be refferring to other theories that have been made in the fnaf fandom and will cite it accordingly. Also english isnt my first language and although i find myself proficient in it , i still sound like an idiot sometimes. Also i'll be mostly focussing on the first 6 games and ucn as everything after is way too confusing. I will be using references from the fazbear frights books and the security logbook. I will not be using the silver eyes trilogy as they arent canon to the main universe. The rant is over please hold the hate comments until after hearing me out , thank you very much.
SPOILER WARNING OBVIOUSLY.
Also a quick TW as i'll be talking about the general fnaf topics , Child murder , psychological abuse basically and lots of brianfuck.
With that out of the way , i would first like to show my timeline and then explains each part individually
Freadbears opens ca. 1970
The first ever Freddy's is opened after fredbears and before 1983.
MCI happens before bite of '83 (I told you please bear with me , no pun intended.) In the original freddy's.
Bite of '83 in 1983 (duh)
Charlotte's/Puppet's/Henry Daughter's death (seriously Scott just tell us her name is Charlie in the games too thx) after bite of '83.
Midnight Motorist, shortly after Charlie's death
Original Freddy's closes due to MCI.
Charlie/ Puppet gives gift , gives life.
William builds the funtimes to capture and kill kids (The spirits of the kids arent in the funtimes yet , bear with me please)
Elizabeth dies to Baby and posseses(i hate this fucking word) her. Circus Baby's closes and they get put underground.
Fnaf 2 happens in 1987 and the bite of '87.
Fnaf 1 happens in 1993
William notices the animatronics being possesed and salvages them. He uses the parts and puts them in the funtimes. This is shortly after fnaf 1.
The funtimes become hostile towards William. He figures out remnant and sends Michael down to free Elizabeth
He returns for whatever reasons(i have one) and gets springlocked.
Sister location happens and Michael gets scooped. He then sets out to find William. This is close to 1993 i believe.
After 30 years Fnaf 3 happens in 2023 and Michael burns down the place. This is also where he writes into the logbook (more on that later)
Pizzeria sim takes place only a bit after i think so around 2024 at the most. Everyone gets set free by henry by arson.
UCN happens in hell where William Afton is punished for his crimes by the vengeful spirit.
With this out of the way we can continue on with the explanation. Please dont lynch me before reading this , thank you.
Alright onto the first point that i believe needs explaining.
The MCI (Missing Children's Incident) happend before the bite. Aka: me offering myself up to get doxxed by angry fnaf fans.
My reasoning lies in the Help Wanted 2 princess quest minigame. In it , you have to light multiple graves to earn a bonnie mask. The graves each have a plushie of the core 4 animatronics, golden Freddy and the puppet. The order in which you light them starts with Chica and ends with the puppet. This is the order of which the kids died as evidenced by withered chica's voiceline in UCN.
"I was the first , i have seen everything" - withered chica in unc.
That means the puppet died last which makes sense considering all of the children are all desd when the puppet gives gifts gives life. However that's not where it ends. Considering all of the evidence we have gotten from the fazbear frights books , it is widely accepted that both the crying child and the vengeful spirit (I will not refer to them as Cassidy as the name is still debated about. I will also refer to them as C.C and V.S respectfully.) share golden Freddy and both possesses him. This makes sense as otherwise there wouldnt be any reason to show us the C.C's death , except for some Michael backstory angst , as the MCI happens before 1983. The reason being that if the grave represents golden freddy , the puppet must have died after the bite meaning either after 1983 or in 1983. If the puppet is the last kid to die , it means the MCI happend before the bite or maybe at the same time. We know that a freddy's is open at the same time as fredbears , considering all of the merch C.C and other kids have , and that the MCI didnt happen at any of the locations we see. It would also make sense why the security puppet exists in the first place , Henry was trying to protect Charlie because of the murders that happend at freddy's. (Why he lets her go there after the MCI is a mystery to me but maybe all happend in relative succession or with suspect supposedly being arrested and convicted , he felt safe to send her.) That would leave me to believe that what C.C. saw wasnt Elizabeth getting murked by Baby or Charlie getting killed by William , mostly out of timeline reasons , but the MCI. Maybe he saw springbonnie/William lead away Susie/Chica to her death and later on saw her on a missing poster. He does get scared in fnaf 4 when he sees a purple guy (probably william) help an employee put on the springbonnie suit. (This also confirms that William isnt the only one wearing springbonnie and that C.C wouldnt know who was in the suit or if anyone was in there at all.) Now some would argue that the whole reason William started killing was to put C.C together , but i dont think so. Here's where i do take a bit of Silver Eyes Trilogy lore in this but i can proof it otherwise too , bear with me. In the Silver Eyes trilogy, William Afton's main goal was to achieve immortality using remnant (everyone's favourite soul juice.) , as he was afraid of death. Considering the first ever namedrop of Afton was in the trilogy and the fact that the characters seem to align well in charactarisation, i fully believe this is what scott intended. Considering that the trilogy mirrors the original game story in aspects like Henry's daughter dying or the four missing kids names , it's not farfetched that William's motive are one of these similiarties. (Yes , i said i wouldnt use the trilogy as it isnt canon to the games. However it is clear that Scott made some ideas for the books that stuck for the games. I dont know why Afton's motive cant be one of them.) There is also the fact that the freddy's th MCI takes place at is never seen in one of the games and i doubt scott cawthon would create two freddy's that we've never seen just so that one of them is only there so we know freddy's existed in 83. No that was on purpose and im sure of it , otherwise it would just be bad writing.
Now we can move on to the second point that i feel needs explaining: Midnight motorist. Aka: drunk driving sim and every theorists biggest nightmar.
I believe midnight motorist to take place after Charlie's death and thus Afton's last murder (for now). I believe this is something the majority agress on. Now here is where we get into theory territory. I believe that the Juniors William Afton tries to get in (yes i believe its William even if he's a mustard man and not purple) can not be any freddy's location mostly because why would he drive away from killing Charlie only to go back to it. Some have speculated it to be the fnaf 2 location but that would mean that two freddy's would be open at the same time. Again, no sense there. Also we dont have a set dare where the fnaf 2 location opened but knowing these restaurant it cant have been long before its closing in 1987. And considering the MCI happend before the bite of 83 (that seems to take place in either spring or summer as we see in the minigames.) It would be a big time frame between the MCI and bite of 83 and Charlie's/the Puppet's death. Not impossible but unlikely. I believe the small pile of dirt in the woods to be C.C's grave and that "That place" mustard man/Afton refers to is exactly that. If we place Charlie's death after C.C , it means the only son Afton has left so when he says this line at the end of midnight motorist:
"Ran off to that place again. He'll be sorry when he gets back." - Mustard man /Afton in midnight motorist.
He means Michael. Now some will say: "But *Insert my name* the person infront of the TV has so many hints to being Michael". Bear with me please. The reason it cannot be C.C is because C.C is already dead. There isnt any logical explanation for there to be a pile of dirt in the forest otherwise. All of Afton's victims were stuffed into suits. It could be Elizabeth as we dont know exactly when Afton made the funtimes but i dont think so. Mostly because i doubt Elizabeth's body was able to be retrieved to be buried after getting clawed by Baby. Would it explain the grave being unmarked? yes. Does it fit in narratively? I dont think so. So yes i believe the person who ran away to be Michael. Maybe he saw a hallucination of Fredbear leading him to his brother's grave? After all the security logbook confirms that Michael knows about Nightmare Fredbear and i have an explanation. Michael , after the bite of 83 , became an experiment for William. I believe that William was already experimenting on C.C with the Fredbear plush trying to hone his son's fear of the animatronics. (This also backsup my theory that C.X saw the MCI. It would give William a reason to torment his kid , to keep him away from freddy's.) So when C.C died , he moved onto Michael who was probably fragile mentally from C.C's death already and thus easy to manipulate and experiment on. This is where Dittophobia comes in. Basically i believe the dreams in fnaf 4 to be Michael hallucinating being trapped in his brother's body fighting against nightmarish versions of the animatronics with the worst being fredbear as the one who killed his brother. This also where followvictim comes in , a theory that believes C.C' soul or atleast a part of it clinged to his brother Michael. If this were to be the case , it would make sense why Michael would go back to the grave and why William has the option to check there. Either before or after Midnight Motorist , William experimented on Michael, potenially to make the boy his accomplice or the one to do his dirty work. (Like Vanessa in the fnaf movie but i digress.) So who's the person infront of the TV? Mrs. Afton? A relative? Who knows? But i dont believe it to be Michael.
Next point: the building of the funtimes , the thing that keeps me up at night.
I hate this part the most. The entire time i was trying to figure out how the parts of the 5 animatronics could be put in the funtimes. See the problem is we see the salvage where afton takes down the animatronics in a minigame in fnaf 3. This has to happen after Charlie gives gifts and gives life as the animatronics are possessed. It has to happen after Fnaf 1 though as William was sealed behind a wall at the fnaf 1 location for 30 years. You'd think Michael would notice or hear his father's screams if he was working there but he didnt and we know freddy's closed soon after. So where to put the funtimes? I believe that after the original freddy's closed due to the MCI , Afton began building the funtimes. He might've noticed something off about Fredbear or the puppet or any of the animatronics after and wanted to recreate whatever he had made. A weird Frankenstein project basically and he was obssesed because now he didnt just want to be immortal , he wanted to bring his son back in any way necessary. Killing more kids in the name of science for it? A minor sacrifice in his mind. So he creates the funtimes with killing in mind. I believe the scooper to be an afterthought of after Circus baby's closed and only for the bunker underground. Elizabeth gets killed by Baby and in an attempt to cover it up , William pretends like there had been a gasleak and the animatronics all get put underground and potentially under Afton house. So William is left with one last kid , Michael. Who by this point is probably so traumtized that he'd follow his father's order to the death. So i believe that until the salvage, the funtimes didnt have the souls of the 5 MCI kids in them.
Fnaf 2: Who is Fritz Smith?
So as we know the first night guard jeremy Fitzgerald gets bitten by an animatronic after switching to dayshift. This is the bite of 87. Afterwards , we play as Fritz Smith who gets fired after one night for tempering with the animatronics and odor. Sounds familiar? Its the same reasons Michael Afton was fired as Mike schmidt in fnaf 1. Now does that prove its Michael? Maybe but lets look at our other canditate , William , first. William could have gone there simply to kill more kids or to watch what the animatronics became. Previous employees werent allowed into the fnaf 2 location and the owners were tried to be contacted. But no one has heard anything of the Afton's since Circus baby's and im sure that henry wasnt involved anymore either. Another Argument might be the puppet as the puppet shouldnt be able to be fooled just because Michael and William look alike. See in UCN the puppet says this:
"The others are like animals. But i am very aware." - puppet UCN
And she's right. The others would see someone who looks like William and immediatetly think its their murderer but the puppet knows better. Still that doesnt prove why she attacks jeremy then so i believe this to be debunked basically. Not impossible just unlikely.
Now onto why it could be Michael. Well after 4 years of pure psychological torture , Mike will probably do anything to please his father. If that includes going into the pizzeria where the animatr that he fears are inside , he has to pull through. He was a clean slate. After all , nobody has probably seen Michael Afton for 4 years. So him applying as Fritz Smith isnt unlikely. Couple that with the same reasons for being fired and we can be pretty sure its Mike again. But why would William send him here? Well...tempering with the animatronics ofcourse. Considering Mike's a technician in Sister location , its not far fetched he knows his way arouns Henry's and William's creations. I believe William wanted to have an update on the animatronics. And he gets it. They are erratic, attacking security guards no matter if they resemble William or not , they cause a ass bite again and seem set on getting revenge on the killer. I think this where William figures out that the possesions happend but he cant be sure. After all the toy animatronics are programed to apprehend criminals but the withered arent. So he knows something is going on. Mike gets fired though and William has to wait until the next location opens.
Fnaf 1: We are getting closer Baby!
Not much to say except a few points. Mike gets sent here by William to again , watch the animatronics. When golden freddy appears though , something happend. I think that V.S noticed that part of C.C's soul was with Mike and decided to cling a part of themselves onto Mike aswell. Maybe because V.S thought they could communicate with C.C through that. I mean how else is C.C and V.S supposed to communicate in the security logbook? How should they even get there? Well Mike ofcourse. So basically Mike gets fired for the same reasons and goes to tell his father about what he's seen. William is now sure that the animatronics are possessed and that he needs their parts for his funtimes. So as soon as Mike is fired , he salvages them and uses their metal infused remnant to put into his funtimes , ripping their souls away. He then realizes that the funtimes became violent against him and they seem alive and that his daughter possessed Baby. With that in mind , he's determined to salvage golden freddy too and maybe get his son back. So he returns and meanwhile sends Michael to free Elizabeth. Afterall the animatronics were hostile and William was afraid of dying and needed to bring his kids back. If Mike died along the way? Who cared? Not only was he a pawn for william , if this works he could just bring Mike back. So he goes back to salvage golden freddy however the other kids are pissed. Now i believe i need to address the elephant in the room. Who's the fifth kid? My best bet? V.S. After all , the other animatronics are also there despite their souls being in the funtimes. There is just one other elephant in the room. Where. Is. The. Golden. Freddy. Suit? If William salvaged it in the the restaurant , it would lay there broken right? Why else would he be there? See here's where i will slide in another theory. When Dual Process theory's Video came out , one thing stuck to me. The unexplainable springlock suit in Sister location. It cant be springbonnie , William's springlocked in there , and there arent any other known Springlock suits. Could it be that William took the Golden freddy suit with him to the underground? I mean th3 children's bodies would decomposed by now and after salvaging , William would remove the bones from there probably , making room for Michael to fit in there. Especially if William was planning to bring back C.C the bones would be really impractical. For the other theories in this timeline i will stick with the second theory as it makes more sense to me. Why William would return? Maybe to get his favourite fursona to turn immortal himself. Sure he'd test it on C.C and Michael first (his favourite guinea pigs) but then he'd be ready to be immortal. And what's bettered than to possesses the endo of your fursona huh? It seems wacky i know , but this the only explanation i can bring logically in my head. We know what happens after , William's plan fails, the kids fuck him over and he gets springlocked only to then be sealed behind a wall for 30 years.
The downfall of Afton's plan: Sister location Edition. Aka: the game that doesnt fit anywhere.
So mike being the ever obedient son and unknown bearer of his brother's and the V.S's souls , ventured down to safe his sister. The animatronics , angry and mistaking him for William , attack him every night. In night 4 he gets kidnapped basically and put in the springlock suit , yes the Golden freddy one. I believe this is where C.C's soul was able to fully latch onto Mike as the two parts were reunited as does V.S's soul. Afterwards he gets scooped and im about to explain how he surives it. When he is scooped and ennard takes ober his body , my boy is filled with remnant. (Although the scooper could have also been the reason but i want nice story ok?) After he turns purple and throws up ennard he technically has no more remnant except the bit of the scooper he may or may not have gotten. But i also believe he was being held alive by C.C and V.S with their souls latched onto him. If he died now , V.S could never communicate with C.C and V.S would lose half of their soul. Remember when UCN came out and the mediocore melodies had someone whisper through them? A lot of people first mistaked that voice as Baby but now we all believe it to be V.S. Now who's voice is heard telling Mike that he wont die? Baby's. But that makes no sense , ennard is out of his body and the voice sounds so internal. Also how would Baby/Elizabeth know that? She couldnt have. I believe this to be V.S telling Mike that he wont die and i also believe that this opened Mike's eyes. His father had done something awful and he needed to stop him , he needed to find him. And that's what he does for 30 years , searching and searching but never finding his father. Until fazbear frights.
Fnaf 3: the fuckery finally ends , or does it?
We nearly got it. Yay! Please bear with me. I know the last two parts were weird but im going somewhere. First lets start with the easy stuff. "Easy".
The security logbook. The security logbook implies to have been written in by Mike around fnaf 3. In it we have two spirits. Faded text and Altered Text. As you can imagine , faded text is faded text written in the logbook while the altered text is the spirit changing the already present text to communicate. This is where the name cassidy comes in. Who this name belongs to? No fucking idea. Lots of arguments for both spirits and im going to be honest, i cant solve it right now. Which infuriates me. But if i had to , i'd probably name C.C Cassidy as V.S getting a name would destroy the whole vengeful spirit that torments William without William knowing who they are except that he murdered them. Also it pisses off that C.C has no name , like how?!
Anyway the happiest day happens and the puppet is able set C.C free. That's because C.C is there with Michael the entire time. The reason there are only six people is because V.S refuses to let go and wants to get revenge. However all the other souls are split up in ennard and later on molten freddy. So C.C is free now as the only spirit. That still leaves V.S. and the 4 other kids and we know the rest , Mike burns down Fazbear frights in the hopes of ending his father. But he always comes back.
(Heh you see what i did there? Huh? Huh?- i hate myself for this joke really.)
Fnaf Pizza sim: Yay!!!! It makes sense again!
Okay speedrun of the Story. Mike builds up a freddy's and Henry uses it to lure the animatronics in. Those being scraptrap ( William after the fire) , scrapbaby (Baby with Elizabeth's soul) , Molten freddy ( all of the 4 children in one entity) and lefty (the puppet). V.S is still clinging onto Mike and so all the spirits are gathered. In the end , Henry burns everything down and everyone is laid to rest. Except for two people.
UCN: The end , Yay!
UCN is basically William's hell and the one keeping him there is V.S. How does V.S do it? By putting William in the same place his son was in. I believe V.S would have had access to Michael's soul and maybe also memories and be able to turn it against William. How else should the nightmare animatronics be there? Anyway V.S holds William there while old man consequences tries to tell her to let go. Could this be Mike? Henry? Someone else? Who knows? But V.S wont let go , even if William beats all the animatronics at the hardest difficulty , V.S stays there as golden freddy. Twitching , alive and ready to make William suffer for all he's done.
And we did it. Yay!!! This was written across two days by my heavily hyperfixated 16 year old sleep deprived brain , so if something doesnt make sense , sue me. Again this is just a theory , i didnt solve fnaf nor do i believe i did. This might be completely wrong but i had this timeline in my head and really wanted to share it. I didnt address the VR games or security breach as i frankly dont understand them much and wanted to focus on the main 7 games. Thank you for reading through all of this , criticism if polite and constructive is thanked for and even if you debunk my whole theory i will be happy.
Hope we all stay invested and i wont get doxxed. Thank you for reading♡♡♡
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valentinbelleyh505 · 7 months
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my theory about the FNAF movie
in Mike's dream sequence sees that Garrett was William's first Victim, so it means that Garrett is not really Crying Child from the Movie. and it means that the next movie Garrett will posses The Puppet, and actually he is Charlie from the movie universe. and his death is very similar to Charlie, also in my theory the location that Garrett's body It was left, I think it was the location of the pizzeria from FNAF 2 (because Garrett's death was in 1987 and this is the year of FNAF 2), and then Puppet saw it and tried to save it but they arrived too late. similar to Charlie, and in the credits appears FNAF 2 minigames voice and talk "C-O-M-E, F-I-N-D, M-E" i believe that Garrett as The Puppet talked this when The Puppet's Music Box ends.
and also the fans theorizes that Abby is Elizabeth from the movie, but in my opinion Abby is half version of Elizabeth in the movie, because in Charlie's trilogy is confirmed that Charlie have a Brother named Sammy. so for me, Abby actually is the movie version of Elizabeth and Sammy.
also not to forget, the man with the endo skeleton is very similar to mr. Schmidt, and it also means that Mike's father is Henry Emily from the movie, and also William kidnapped Garrett for his insane envy/jealousy for your ex-best friend/partner
also i think Vanessa is the half version of Crying Child from the movie, because both goes on the hospital in Coma. and i think in the next movie will not just have somethings about the FNAF 2, i think will also have somethings about FNAF 4, because of Vanessa in the Hospital.
and Mike when he talking with Vanessa, he said that his mother died, it means that she might possessed a Animatronic from Freddy's or maybe not.
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vypridae · 1 month
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is spring trap a person or a concept i ahve never been into fnaf
I’m like half sure he’s William afton but im also half convinced they’re two different people[??]
okay OKA Y OKAY OKAY . SODA YPU GOT ME STARTED. FNAF fANS PLEASE CORRECT ME IF ANY OF THIS IS WRONG THIS IS JUST WHAT I REMEMBER FROM THE OLD THEORY VIDEOS FROM THE FNAF-6-JUST-RELEASED DAYS
springtrap is, evidently, a living corpse. william afton, as shown in fnaf 3’s night 5(?) minigame, was forced by his fear to hide in one of his animateonic suits; these ones are the “springlock” suits that can be used as animatronics or suits, he wore the springbonnie one. the suits are extremely finicky when theyre in suit mode; they have springlocks that keep the parts out of the way ti wear the suit, and if they come lose, it can force the suit back into animatronic mode, pushing all the gears and such back into place. which you can imagine wouldn’t be good.
“the only parts of you that would likely see the light of day again would be your eyeballs and teeth, that’d pop out the front of the mask” -phone guy in fnaf 1, about the normal suits
“your breathing and heartbeat are causing them [the springlocks] to come loose. you dont want them to get too loose, trust me.” -circus baby in night 4 of sl
anyway, night 5 of fnaf 3, theres a cutscene in which you play as one of the five souls afton killed. you find him in the safe room (a room off-the-map for animatronics with no cameras inside), and find william who seems TERRIFIED of them. eventually william, as what i only assume is a method to hide, hops into the springbonnie suit while its in suit mode and effectively prevents the souls from getting him. he starts laughing, because of course he does the psycho, and then his laughter plus the dampness of the room end up pushing the springlocks to snap back into place, effectively killing afton within the suit.
but afton’s whole thing is “i ALWAYS come back!” (see fnaf 6, the fucker keeps coming back). he didnt DIE from the suit; he rotted there for 30 years, sure, but hes not DEAD. i think, probably, (and fnaf fans can correct me on this i havent seen the lore videos in quite some time), his soul fused with the springbonnie suit, effectively forcing him to stay alive as a weird amalgamation of a rotting corpse and soulless animatronic. theoretically, springbonnie was its own animatronic before afton wore the suit and died, but now since hes been there, his soul is evidently trapped, as all the souls of his victims are. you could say afton is different from springtrap from his ability now to do what he pleases, rather than keeping up a front of a salesman you can trust. he doesnt have to do that anymore; his life is already ruined, hes dead, his family is dead, and he cant take back what he did (not like i think he would, the fucker is evil). all he can really do now, is embrace being springtrap, instead of being william afton. william afton is dead; springtrap is the last remaining of his corrupted, wicked soul.
tl;dr springtrap is a dead guy in a suit continuously rotting but i love him so i talked too much about him.
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