#Military Protocol
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petermorwood · 1 year ago
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Where's his bloody cap?
British military personnel ONLY salute when wearing uniform AND regimental headdress. Any show or film where uniformed British personnel salute hatless should prompt the immediate question: "What else have they got wrong?"
(Unless it's because of Regimental Tradition, and that's a rabbit-hole too deep for now.)
What happened here is more likely the result of "research" derived from watching US military protocol represented in Hollywood movies.
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British War Movies would be a better source for British military protocol, for obvious reasons.
Relevant to that and even more so to the GIFset, here's an exchange from "The Cruel Sea" (1953) between Jack Hawkins (Royal Welch Fusiliers 1941-44) as Captain Ericson RNR, and two very new young sub-lieutenants.
"Oh, by the way, don't salute me indoors when I haven't got a cap on. I can't return it. Correct drill is for you to take your cap off when you come in." "Sorry, sir." "That's all right. It's not vital, but you may as well get it right."
Despite easily caricatured stiff upper lips and cut-glass accents, those movies often included writers, cast and crew who had been in the Services only a few years previously and Knew Stuff. This also applied to the intended audience, who might well have heard a superior say such things for real.
There are of course indoor duty situations when the headdress stays on and a salute is required - entering a superior's office "on business", for instance - but the rule of no headdress / no salute is more usually right than wrong.
It's something of which the Doctor Who writers should have been made aware, though as I've said before, the contracts of historical / military / scientific advisors hired for a production have clauses about being paid, but AFAIK none about being heeded.
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John Watson in "Sherlock" did a bare-headed salute too and, more incorrect still, he wasn't even in uniform.
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AFAIK rules in the US are different, saluting bare-headed and in civvies is an accepted gesture - presidents (and veterans?) do it - but US rules don't apply here and even if they did, Watson is pretending to be a serving officer...
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...in a regiment - 5th Northumberland Fusiliers - which ceased to exist in the late 1960s. (Dr Watson served with them in the original Conan Doyle stories, also with the 66th (Berkshires). That regiment ceased to exist in 1881.)
"Adapting Period Fiction: Update, Correct or Leave Alone?" is another subject entirely.
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Basic UK military saluting protocol is straightforward. No uniform, no salute. Uniform but no regimental headdress, no salute.
However a salute is a military compliment, so receiving one is always acknowledged, and back when hats were everyday wear an officer in civvies would tip or raise his if saluted - which BTW is how military salutes in uniform began.
That it came from knights raising their visors is nonsense, since many styles of helmet didn't have one. If it did, what if the visor was already raised so as to see and breathe better? Did the knight lower it so he could raise it again? Did two companies of knights clatter at each other like kids playing with letter-box flaps?
I doubt that. :->
The modern UK senior-to-junior hatless response is to "brace up", meaning straighten up if walking...
(Long, long ago, I was told it meant "straighten up MORE" because an ambling officer is one thing but a slouching one is something else.)
...or come briefly to attention if standing still, and in both cases look directly at the saluter while giving a small nod to acknowledge receipt.
Watson knows how to brace up. We've seen him do it.
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Looking Stuff Up is like a lot of other things. If five minutes can make the difference, it's usually five minutes well spent.
"It's not vital, but you may as well get it right."
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(It can be vital enough in fiction: see the TVTropes "Falsely Advertised Accuracy" and "Dan Browned Dan Brown" for more about why.)
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Doctor Who | 4x04: The Sontaran Stratagem
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swtechspecs · 6 months ago
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M-3PO (Cybot Galactica Military Protocol Droid)
Source: The Essential Guide to Droids (Del Rey, 1999)
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magpiesvscanaries · 1 year ago
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Gertrude is head of the SSRI don’t fight me on this
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petermorwood · 9 months ago
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@dduane's referring to the way I growled at Watson returning a soldier's salute in "Hounds of Baskerville".
The squaddie is in uniform with regimental headdress, so after inspecting what seems like legitimate ID, he's correct in saluting "Captain John Watson, Fifth Northumberland Fusiliers”.
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Watson, however, is both out of uniform and hatless, so his proper response in those circumstances would have been to straighten slightly - "brace up" - then give the squaddie a crisp nod of acknowledgement.
Instead he returned the salute...
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...and in a secure facility, that mistake should have been treated With Deep Suspicion.
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My slight fixation with correct saluting protocol is, like correct trigger discipline, based on personal experience of Getting It Wrong With Consequences.
In the saluting instance, I failed to salute a Wing Commander - I was in uniform while he was in civvies, and I didn't recognise him - which earned me a short sharp "Your hat, My office, Now," chat without tea or biscuits with my Squadron Leader.
That happened in 1976, and even the RAF station where it happened is closed now, but it's still a prominent entry in the Things You Do Not Forget file.
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Side-note: "Sherlock" Watson may actually have been Royal Army Medical Corps, attached 5th Northumberlands, since he's got an RAMC mug on his desk.
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A Northumberland Fusiliers mug would have looked more like this, with the regiment's cap-badge and hackle colours. Maybe they couldn't find one.
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Hey Steph, do you or does anyone still remember when Mofftiss dropped the CV of John Watson at a convention and everyone was outraged that it was just an A4 piece of paper? Does anyone still have this saved? I’m writing a fic rn and I wanted to have a look at the cursed CV once more, but I only came across posts that did meta on John’s CV from the blind banker, so I thought I’d ask you or your followers who might still have it. Thanks a lot!
Hi Lovely!
I was actually asked this YEARS ago and I ensure I filed it properly so that if this question came up again, I would have a ready response! It was found for me and it's actually up on AO3 Here:
Hope this helps!!
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radioactive-yuri · 1 year ago
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captainsjack · 2 years ago
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every time an author mentions ethan’s supposed military background i immediately have to close out of the fic. girl ethan hunt would not touch the us military with a mile long pole. clearly you never sat for hours on you basement floor on cold ass tile straining your neck up to look at the tv & click through all of the characters’ background files on the mi1 dvd special features . u don’t KNOW him
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istherewifiinhell · 7 months ago
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josefavomjaaga · 1 year ago
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I think I've just seen on Youtube what may be the whole Austerlitz scene from Napoleon 2023 by Ridley Scott. And what weirded me out the most was the dimensions. Or rather lack thereof. Like, they made that huge show about signaling to each other with lights and even flags and my first thought was "Why bother? From the looks of it, Naps can't be more than 200m away. Why don't you just walk over and tell him?"
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seithr · 1 year ago
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johnbitchsociety · 2 years ago
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amrutmnm · 9 months ago
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COVID-19 Impact on Tactical Data Link Market: Recovery and Future Forecast
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Tactical Data Link (TDL) systems have become increasingly important for defense and aerospace sectors worldwide. With advancements in modern warfare systems and airspace modernization programs, the Tactical Data Link Market is projected to experience significant growth.
According to recent market reports, the Tactical Data Link market is expected to grow from USD 8.1 billion in 2022 to USD 10.3 billion by 2027, registering a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 4.9% during this period.
In this in-depth blog, we will explore the current state of the Tactical Data Link Industry, the factors driving its growth, challenges, opportunities, and emerging technologies shaping the future of TDL systems.
Understanding Tactical Data Link Systems
Tactical Data Link systems allow real-time data communication between military platforms such as aircraft, ships, ground vehicles, and command centers. By facilitating encrypted, secure communication across a range of military applications, TDLs enhance interoperability among allied forces. This real-time data exchange helps improve decision-making and operational efficiency on the battlefield.
Some of the most common Tactical Data Link protocols include:
Link 16: A secure, jam-resistant communication standard primarily used by NATO forces and allies.
Link 11: A tactical data communication system used by military aircraft, ships, and other platforms.
Link 22: An advanced data communication system designed to replace Link 11, providing enhanced security and interoperability for NATO forces.
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Tactical Data Link Market Size and Growth
The Tactical Data Link market was valued at USD 8.1 billion in 2022 and is projected to reach USD 10.3 billion by 2027. This represents a steady CAGR of 4.9% over the forecast period.
Key Growth Drivers
Rise in Airspace Modernization Programs Airspace modernization is a significant driver of the TDL market, especially in North America and Europe. Countries are investing heavily in upgrading their air traffic control and communication systems to improve efficiency, reduce carbon emissions, and increase safety. Tactical Data Links play a crucial role in enabling these modernized systems to communicate with air traffic managers and provide real-time tracking of military and civilian aircraft.
Emergence of Modern Warfare Systems The nature of warfare is evolving, and modern militaries increasingly rely on network-centric warfare strategies that require rapid, secure communication between platforms. TDLs allow for seamless data sharing, enabling a cohesive response to threats. Modern systems, such as Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), are increasingly integrating TDLs for real-time information sharing during missions.
Increased Defense Budgets in Key Regions Despite the COVID-19 pandemic’s impact on global defense spending, countries like the U.S., China, and India have maintained or increased their defense budgets, emphasizing secure communication technologies like Tactical Data Links. Rising geopolitical tensions in the Asia-Pacific region, along with increasing investments in defense systems, are fueling demand for advanced TDL systems.
Growth in Unmanned Systems The growing use of unmanned systems, particularly UAVs, in both military and commercial applications is driving demand for TDL systems. These unmanned systems rely on TDLs for communication with command centers, enabling remote operations and improving mission success rates.
Impact of COVID-19 on the Tactical Data Link Market
The COVID-19 pandemic caused disruptions across the defense and aerospace industries. With many countries reallocating defense budgets to manage healthcare crises, several projects involving tactical data links were delayed or put on hold. Furthermore, the global supply chain was disrupted, impacting the production of tactical data link systems and components.
However, as the world recovers from the pandemic, defense spending is expected to rebound, especially in areas related to cybersecurity, secure communications, and network-centric warfare systems.
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Market Restraints
1. Rigorous Military Standards and Regulations
The defense sector operates under strict regulations to ensure the security and integrity of communication systems. TDL solutions must meet rigorous military standards, such as those outlined by NATO. These regulations, while essential for maintaining high security, can slow down the adoption of new technologies and hamper market growth.
2. High Cost of Implementation
The development and deployment of TDL systems involve substantial costs, especially for smaller nations or countries with limited defense budgets. The high cost of procurement, installation, and maintenance of these systems can act as a restraint on market growth, particularly in developing regions.
Opportunities in the Tactical Data Link Market
1. Growing Demand for Enhanced Interoperability
With increasing multinational military operations, the need for enhanced interoperability between allied forces has become more important than ever. Tactical Data Links that enable seamless communication between different platforms and forces will see rising demand, particularly as more countries join international coalitions like NATO. TDL systems such as Link 16, which allow secure, encrypted communication between allied forces, are in high demand for this reason.
2. Adoption of Cognitive Radio Technology
Cognitive radios are an emerging technology that has the potential to transform tactical data links. These radios can automatically detect available frequencies and establish communication links, making them more efficient than traditional radios. As cognitive radios become more advanced, they could provide an important competitive advantage in the TDL market, especially for military applications.
3. Expansion in the Asia-Pacific Region
The Asia-Pacific region is expected to experience the fastest growth in the TDL market during the forecast period, with a projected CAGR of 4.18%. Countries such as China, India, and Japan are increasing their defense spending to modernize their military capabilities, and secure communication systems like TDLs are a crucial part of this strategy. Rising geopolitical tensions in the region further underscore the need for advanced communication systems.
Challenges Facing the Tactical Data Link Market
1. Lack of Skilled Workforce
The successful implementation of Tactical Data Link systems requires highly skilled personnel for tasks such as software development, system integration, and maintenance. However, many developing countries in regions such as Africa and South Asia face a shortage of technically skilled workers, which could hinder the adoption of TDL systems in these regions.
2. Spectrum Management Issues
Tactical Data Links operate within limited frequency ranges, and spectrum management is a critical challenge for defense organizations. As the number of communication systems operating in the same frequency bands increases, managing the spectrum becomes more complex. Cognitive radios offer a potential solution to this challenge, but they are still in the development phase.
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Market Segmentation and Trends
1. By Platform
The TDL market is segmented by platform into ground, airborne, naval, and unmanned systems. The unmanned systems segment is expected to grow at the highest CAGR of 6.4% during the forecast period, driven by the increasing use of UAVs for both military and commercial purposes.
2. By Component
The market is segmented by component into hardware, software, and services. The product (hardware) segment is expected to command the largest market share, growing from USD 5.3 billion in 2022 to USD 6.8 billion by 2027. The rising demand for advanced communication products is driving this growth.
3. By Point of Sale
Based on point of sale, the TDL market is divided into original equipment manufacturers (OEM) and aftermarket. The OEM segment is expected to dominate the market, as many military organizations prefer to source TDL solutions directly from manufacturers to ensure compatibility with existing systems.
Competitive Landscape
The Tactical Data Link market is dominated by Key Players such as Collins Aerospace (US), L3Harris Technologies (US), ViaSat (US), Thales Group (France), and General Dynamics Corporation (US). These companies are investing heavily in research and development to create advanced communication solutions that meet the evolving needs of modern militaries.
Recent Developments
Thales Group: In May 2022, Thales won a contract from the U.S. Army to deliver advanced tactical radios under the Combat Net Radio modernization program.
L3Harris Technologies: In May 2022, L3Harris secured an increased contract for its Falcon IV AN/PRC-167 radio systems, signaling growing demand for its tactical communication solutions.
The Tactical Data Link market is poised for significant growth, driven by advancements in military communication systems, airspace modernization, and rising defense budgets in key regions. Despite challenges such as stringent regulations and the high cost of implementation, the market offers substantial opportunities for innovation, particularly with the development of cognitive radios and increasing interoperability demands.
With major players such as Collins Aerospace, L3Harris, and Thales at the forefront, the TDL market will continue to evolve, offering new solutions that meet the complex communication needs of modern warfare. As the world becomes more interconnected, secure and efficient communication through Tactical Data Links will remain a top priority for defense organizations globally.
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