#Ms flood

[thelunanaut]

WHO THE FUCK IS SHE

[starleska]

Maestro, Ms. Flood and non-diegetic sound: a theory on what the fuck is happening in Doctor Who

okay my brain is still tremendously scrambled after everything we just saw but i have a theory...HUGE spoilers for the new Doctor Who eps (especially The Devil's Chord):

so we know by know that Maestro is the Toymaker's child...and it seems that the Toymaker's Legions may well in fact refer to his children. in The Devil's Chord, there's an interesting throwaway line from the Doctor which could be read as a joke: "I thought that was non-diegetic." The Doctor here is referring to the rising crescendo of background music: non-diegetic sound is sound that we, the audience, can hear, but doesn't exist within the film's universe. so when a couple are embracing and a beautiful love melody plays in the background, we can hear it, but the characters can't. now, this implies that in general, the Doctor is able to hear non-diegetic sound...but he understands that other people can't. the fact that Ruby is able to hear this non-diegetic sound is a violation - it's not supposed to happen. you know what else isn't supposed to happen? the way Maestro speaks to, and winks at, the audience. we see that Maestro has inherited quite a few traits from their father, and we know from The Giggle novelisation that the Toymaker is capable of fourth-wall breaking and metacommentary (e.g., writing a book in the Doctor Who canon, for instance). similar moments include Maestro playing the Doctor Who theme for the opening credits, and playing a distorted version of it later in the episode. there is one other character who has spoken directly to the audience and broken the fourth wall: Ms. Flood. here's my theory: i believe that Ms. Flood, like Maestro, is one of the Toymaker's children, and therefore one of his Legions. i also believe that she embodies some sort of form of storytelling, the way Maestro does music, and this gives her the ability to transcend form and break the fourth wall. and i absolutely believe she is directly responsible for the snow which keeps filtering through Ruby's memory. something about her presence and existence is melting the boundaries between fiction and reality. now, there are a few loose ends. i don't know what role Harbinger (the small boy from the beginning of the episode) plays...Maestro describes him as their 'prelude', and Harbinger calls Maestro their 'daddy'. it may well be that Maestro is Harbinger's parent the same way the Toymaker is Maestro's father. however...because we see him still around at the end of the episode, i believe that Harbinger is a prelude to another character. perhaps he is, in general, a Harbinger of doom. and a prelude to a Flood? [edit] i nearly forgot - i am convinced this melting of the boundary between fiction and reality is why we had a musical at the end, and the Doctor and Ruby didn't notice

[wow-its-me]

Anyone else notice that when Ms. Flood was saved she called him “That Clever Boy” ????

WHO ELSE WOULD ALWAYS CALL DOC “You Clever Boy”

LOOK AT THE OUTFITS

YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE IM GOING HERE, RIGHT??

[brilliantfantasticgeronimo]

the way she said this was so whimsical. ms anita dobson what are u hiding.

[phantomclusterhug]

Guys I know who Ms flood is, she's Mary Poppins

[beanlightbibblekeepflickbeanboss]

Ngl miss flood calling Cherry a tiny little woman is hilarious

But also I believe in the power of whoopass ms flood back AWAY from Cherry

[jupiter049]

Kind of insane from Russel to make an episode about being haunted by a mysterious magical woman who is always present but nobody knows how or why on the same season that has Susan Twist.

[my-brain-on-mars]

okay- folks take your bet on who Mrs. Flood is!

[gallifvrey]

like almost certainly ms flood has something to do with everything thats been going on but i also think itd be really funny if she didnt and she was just kinda Like That. just a perfectly normal human woman who is sorta ominous sometimes and is like familiar w the doctors tardis from all the other times theyve flown it around london and been totally not subtle about it

[khruschevshoe]

I would like to believe that random lady who told Ruby about the TARDIS in the Christmas Special is secretly the master. Because why the fuck not?

[the-autistic-spider]

who could ms. Flood be

and i dont think its someone the doctors friends with

that ending feels to sinister

[razzberry-pi]

my sibling is so funny watching doctor who s14 with me (they have never watched the show before) their fav character is Ms Flood and they cheer everytime she is on screen because "she is so cunt, she shows up, says cryptic lines, and she leaves"

[skywastherobot]

The Fifteenth Doctor (Ncuti Gatwa) discovers the truth about Ruby Sunday’s (Millie Gibson) parents, with the help of Mel Bush (Bonnie Langford), Kate Stewart (Jemma Redgrave), and Rose Noble (Yasmin Finney). But as the Time Window reveals horrifying secrets from Christmas Eve, mysterious technologies unleash the greatest evil of all.

Who is Susan Triad (Susan Twist)? Who is Mrs Flood (Anita Dobson)? And, for God’s sake, Gabriel Woolf is back as Sutekh from ‘Pyramids of Mars’, right?

Topics include Andrew Garfield, PRETTY LITTLE LIARS, the guy who saw CAPTAIN MARVEL 140 times, The Trickster, weird FUTURAMA subplots, Gwen Stefani, TORCHWOOD, Ben Shapiro’s opinion on ‘Tomb of the Cybermen’, and why Ruby’s biological mother is definitely Rose Tyler.

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[stalkerkyoko]

"I would like a cup of tea

[thewisestdino]

Lil painting while I wait out the hurricane

[beanlightbibblekeepflickbeanboss]

NOOOOO WTF!?!?!

I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS WHY TF DID THEY BOTH DIE LIKE THST DID MS FLOOD NOT HAVE A BIGGER ROLE TO PLAY?!?!?!

Suhtek really hired this old lady to scare the shit out of another old ladie and die!?

I refuse to believe