Section Six: Lower your standards
XVI: Just a bit eh: fics that are fine, but that I didn’t like enough to rec in the sections above
XVII: Put on some horse blinders: fics for which I have to list particularly egregious author issues (rape porn, incest)
XVIII: The shame corner for naughty fanfiction: fics with issues within the actual work
XVI. Just a bit eh: fics that are fine, but that I didn’t like enough to rec in the sections above. this isn’t based on quality so much as my personal interest in it. I just find them a bit dull and/or not in-character enough to enjoy as much as the others
An Ache Like This by sofriel
summary: t4t wangxian! fic starts with lwj mourning his mother and follows him through his childhood and young adulthood. it skips through years and arcs and ends at a really tender postcanon get-together scene
work issues: none
author issues: none
love at every s(word f)ight by glitteringmoonlight
summary: a cute little postcanon fic where wwx has secretly developed his core to the point that he can hold his own against lwj, so he sets up a re-creation of their rooftop swordfight. it’s joyful and romantic, but imo a bit bland
work issues: none really, except it’s novel canon so there’s this reference to ‘oh of course I always want to fuck" which. ehh don’t love but it’s not like it ruined the work for me
author issues: emperor/concubine stuff, warprize AU
Gentian Seeds by yuyu_finale
summary: lwj, while traveling post-nightless, stumbles upon his mother’s hometown. it’s sweet; he meets some family. the writing was a bit amateurish tho
work issues: none, but I skimmed the final chapter because I found their wwx annoying so I can’t say for certain
author issues: none
another name for ghosts by seularen
summary: postcanon, a still-estranged jin ling visits wwx at CR, and lwj tries to keep it from being a disaster for everyone involved. I didn’t really like the lwj in this one, because he’s firmly his novel self and I don’t like novel lwj much as a person, but he was well-written and the way the work teased out jl and wwx’s respective issues and traumas was really something. novel canon
work issues: none
author issues: incredibly weird about sex scenes outside of this work. a lot of cnc-adjacent stuff. xiyao also
varied my velocities by fantasiavii
summary: ballet dancer lwj and soccer player wwx. lwj is gnc and works through internalized homophobia exacerbated by other members of the ballet community. emotionally powerful and clearly written out of personal experience, so I both cried and learned a lot about ballet as an art form
lwj’s issues here are rather specific to ballet, so he feels somewhat disconnected from his canon character. and wwx isn’t quite ooc, but he’s rather generic and nothing jumps out about him that the reader would recognize as wwx without being told. it read almost as original fiction, and therefore I found the chemistry rather lacking because I didn’t feel like I knew the characters. but it’s a good story nonetheless
lwj is a sub in this and it’s actually explored quite thoughtfully and beautifully as an important part of his identity
work issues: none
author issues: none
back for you by detectorist
summary: I almost didn’t read this because it came off as boring, but I powered through the first section and found a very nice little work and a relationship with some of the most tangible chemistry I’ve found in fic. I also like the lwj and jyl friendship here. short, sweet, and funny
work issues: none
author issues: has written genderbends
You’ve placed all of the smiles in the world in my hands by Must_have_been_the_wind
summary: a very cute work where little a-yuan thinks about how much he loves lwj and his home in CR. fairly simplistic
work issues: none
author issues: none
For a Good Time, Call by ScarlettStorm
summary: honestly I kind of hate this fic and the sequel is in my trash heap but like. here goes. so modern AU wwx has an OnlyFans and lwj (his irl friend who is in love with him) stumbles upon it and immediately, hornily, guiltily subscribes to it, which is exactly as contrived and cringey as it sounds, but it has so many kudos I went “FINE I‘ll read it” and I found a surprisingly funny and easy to read fic grounded in legitimately gripping drama, decent politics (author seems to also be a sex worker), and emotional sincerity. the fashion in this fic is really fun, the interpersonal drama and building tension had me losing my shit, and it has a life and personality all its own. I adore jyl in this one, and jc is extremely funny
otherwise the wx itself is empty of true romance and chemistry, the porn (both in-universe and in the fic) is painfully generic, the characters are clearly written by a white person, everyone talks like they were raised in therapy, and the wwx and lwj characterizations are very dull. wq and jc are together, but at least they’re funny about it (wq just constantly criticizes his behavior, which, she should). for a better version of a similar setting, see to dwell inside a body by typefortydeductions. it does have some issues so check the tags, but it’s higher in quality. it also has a full entry in category xviii further down this page
reclaimed q slur is used very frequently
work issues: while wwx is upset that lwj subscribed without telling him, they still fuck immediately and then only later have a conversation about it, the convo is fairly short and lets lwj off pretty easy. I would have liked to see more of lwj building that trust back up. otherwise there’s no big issues I can point to in this work
author issues: somewhat infamous for femme-leaning pansexual yoga pants-wearing nhs, which given that they’re white is really iffy. they’ve also done some really weird things with feminizing wwx (he’s genderfluid and in the second work in this series he says he wants to be a stay-at-home wife??) and they refer to wwx as a f*mboy in the title of another fic, which given that they’re definitely not a trans woman is super shitty. don’t read the rest of this series, it’s absolutely horrible. however, for this work, most of those issues are not present and everyone is treated fairly normally
never love an anchor by tardigradeschool
summary: ah, the classic selkie and fisherman love story. this fic is not super high quality but I found the style and the romance quite lovely, and I was excited to find out what happened. good for a nice time but don’t expect it to have the strongest plot or the most dramatic scenes. ending was a bit weak as well, though sweet
in this fic lwj is kept prisoner by his family away from the sea, suspected of harboring the same mental illness that they thought led his mother to her suicide. they threaten his autonomy throughout the work, and it was quite distressing in some scenes
work issues: none
author issues: xiyao, niyao, 3zun, jl/lsz
XVII. put on some horse blinders: fics written by authors who have also written rape porn or sibling incest. personally I’m pretty good at compartmentalizing. but I know everyone has different tolerance levels so I’m putting them in their own section
I still draw a hard line for authors of adult-child smut or csa porn, so anyone writing that shouldn’t be on any of my pages at all.
*A Lot of Edges Called Perhaps* by hansbekhart
summary: a postcanon getting together work: legitimately one of the best fics I have ever read, and one of my personal favorites. mature and beautifully written and atmospheric and satisfying. they just know each other. their mutual interest in justice is important! I love how neither of them have any patience for the juniors’ overinterest in their relationship - it’s not their business and it’s not a joke. a lovely and satisfying conclusion, close to perfect imo. cql canon
work issues: none, unless you have a problem with reading a whole lot of edging
author issues: it pains me to say this because this fic is so good but the author has written a work tagged ‘noncon somnophilia’ so it’s been kicked down here
*Out of the darkness, into the day by ilip13
summary: a substantial postcanon getting-together work. the way the emotion in this is rendered is stunning, and the characterizations are excellent. realistic as well as appropriately dramatic. I don’t like the beginning so much because it’s really depressing, and they take SO long to get together I was ready to start crying, but the story becomes so joyful and it’s a real pleasure to go from one extreme to the other. it’s right there in the title. cql canon
work issues: um their first kiss is a little iffy since one of them is half-asleep but he’s the one who initiates…it didn’t really bother me it was just a bit odd
also the notes say things like ‘no spoken consent….their love transcends words’ which is a weird way to phrase it but everything IS consensual they just communicate nonverbally a lot (and consent is verbally explicit in most intimate scenes)
author issues: dubcon, cnc, rape fantasy, sex pollen, noncon/noncon somnophilia (in something tagged with ‘noncon dual cultivation’ 🤮)
he comes in colors by ilip13
summary: modern cultivation AU, an lwj-centric work beginning when he lost his mother and following him through the years as he grows up in the still-traditional cloud recesses. it explores his relationship to the rules, his grief, his connection to music, and the powerful synesthesia he shares with his mother. a story about family, identity, maturity, and self-discovery. I like the unique twist on the madam lan situation, and the way that lwj’s musical prodigy was explored.
the characterizations aren’t bad but they’re a little…lackluster? lwj wasn’t as intense and weird as I think of him as. wwx was way more considerate and less mischievous than even in canon, and the romance in here was nice…almost too sweet and low-drama honestly, but I’ll take that over contrived miscommunication any day. lwj is a sub too, and that’s a significant part of the work
work issues: none
author issues: same as above. shame this author is so talented and keeps writing fics that really speak to me because ugh. dubcon, cnc, rape fantasy, sex pollen, noncon/noncon somnophilia
*best laid plans* by ilip13
summary: modern AU wangxian try changing up their roles, to mixed results. great politics about topping/bottoming - this fic said switch RIGHTS. I loved the writing style of this, the romance was so tender and lovely, the drama clipped right along and there was so much communication and maturity. dramatic without being corny or overwrought. love it. either canon but I was feeling cql-verse
work issues: none
author issues: see above - dubcon, cnc, rape fantasy, sex pollen, ‘noncon dual cultivation’
Let the Crows Fly by eak_a_mouse
summary: sunshot AU where lwj and wwx are taken hostage by the wens after defeating the xuanwu of slaughter, and wwx is coerced into helping the wens develop demonic cultivation techniques. the politics in this are engaging, the characterizations are all excellent, the style and atmosphere were just gripping, the ending was hopeful, and the romance, while understated, was tangibly present in every single scene with them, even if they were apart
firmly cql canon, and I think the author just nailed the atmosphere of the show and the tension of a very young wwx and lwj under duress and trying to keep each other safe
work issues: none
author issues: jc/wwx mpreg smut…also lwj/nmj hookup but they’re both of age at least
*all the depths of us* by northofallmusic (tofsla)
summary: wwx and lwj get together while still solving the mystery postres, a little earlier than in canon. the characterizations and atmosphere are excellent, and I love how the romance and relationship is developed. I am reccing both the main fic and the secondary one. cql canon.
work issues: none
author issues: implied jc/wwx, noncon somnophilia, dubcon, sex pollen, and cnc
*here’s to upright men by isozyme
summary: an incredibly compelling and well-crafted work about nhs, five years after canon, encountering lxc for the first time since guanyin temple. excellent characterizations, darkly humorous, dramatic, and giving us unpredictable and satisfying interactions between characters who really should have had more screentime together. bit sad because jc and wwx haven’t reconciled, but it feels right for them
this is the closest any fic on here will get to sangcheng, and it’s not even really there if you don’t squint. but IF I was into sangcheng, this is the kind of dynamic I could get behind
work issues: none
author issues: jc/wwx smut…also genderbends, xiyao, and niyao but honestly that stuff just seems so trite in comparison
Restraint and Revelation: or, The Necromancer of Yiling by Lirelyn
summary: a story-within-a-story regency AU loosely based off the popularity of gothic romance novels a la northanger abbey. a shallow and vaguely set genre pastiche rather than an actual AU that would place them in regency england (and whitewash them). the writing is impressively austenian, and the emotional journeys the characters canonically go on suit the format beautifully, so everything feels quite well translated. I’ve always fondly headcanoned lwj as being into shlocky romance novels, so this was a treat
work issues: none, which is weird because the tags say ‘3zun if you squint’ but imo there is nothing to imply that jgy was involved with either lxc or mnj. iirc he barely was present in the fic at all so *shrug*
author issues: wwx/lwj/jc and wwx/jc smut 💀 also xxc/sl/xy, niyao, and xiyao. there’s a ton of shit in there just don’t go to their page at all
The Good That Won’t Come Out by raisedbyhyenas
summary: postcanon casefic where lwj and wwx solve a mystery and confront some truths about their past and their relationship. healing, grief, and comfort. I like how much chemistry wwx and lwj have, and lwj is funnier than he is in most fics that claim he’s funny. wwx’s fierce protectiveness and vengeful rage at seeing lwj threatened was nice. novel verse.
work issues: none…it’s sad tho. not for wwx and lwj, but for the victims
author issues: jc/wwx, nhs/jgy, xiyao, genderbends, jl/lsz
*Vagabond by xantissa
summary: postcanon, wwx returns from a year of travels to a mysterious illness plaguing the region. he, lwj, and another investigator work to solve it while he and lwj navigate their feelings. I liked the oc a lot - lwj has a friend! I don’t want to give more detail because the mystery is so compelling and the plot twist was a genuine surprise.
there were a lot of little details that didn’t make sense, but I loved how sweet wwx was with wen ning, and the romance was so satisfying
it’s kind of up to interpretation but there is arguably in-universe homophobia and consent to sex under a false identity
also, one lan has romantic feelings for another one, but based on how it’s treated I really don’t think they’re related
work issues: PM mountain kiss is talked about and it’s not made a big deal of 🙄
author issues: lxc/lwj is the big one, but they’re both of age. also nhs/nzh, niyao, xiyao, 3zun, dubcon
Art in Life by northofallmusic (tofsla)
summary: a three-part introspective series on modern AU wwx reuniting with lwj in france, years after wwx has a breakdown and leaves the classical music scene. atmospheric and satisfying and tender. the chemistry and their dynamic was so natural and lovely. it was gratifying to see an older wwx remark on how much better and calmer he is now, similar to his canon postres peace. I thought it was going to be boring and it wasn’t. no knowledge of art required
work issues: none
author issues: implied jc/wwx, dubcon, sex pollen, noncon somnophilia
*让我留在你身边 // let me stay by your side by howodd5ever
summary: a ‘what if’ scenario for the month in between yi city and the meeting at jinlintai. there’s no big confession, but they do hook up and and it’s really sweet. good sex scenes! they take their time....it’s nice I like it. except a few throwaway lines, the characterizations are really good
work issues: none
author issues: lwj/lxc, 3zun, sl/xxc/xy, dubcon, lsz/ljy
为温暖 // for warmth by howodd5ever
summary: another work in the same series as the above - what if they got together immediately post-sunshot? classic post-war/lost gc angst from wwx, the realization that lwj knows it’s gone, and then they get together. I really like the sex scenes in this series - the work listed above is my favorite but this one might have the best sex scenes
brief mention of wwx’s suicidal ideation/expecting to die after the end of the war in the opening few paragraphs
work issues: none
author issues: same author so I’m grouping them: lwj/lxc, 3zun, sl/xxc/xy, dubcon, lsz/ljy
Mostly Figurative Ducks by northofallmusic (tofsla)
summary: a very sweet little fic about wwx and jyl comforting each other throughout the years
work issues: it’s literally too short to even fit anything bad
author issues: insane to write this under the summary of this fic, but this author has written noncon, implied jc/wwx, noncon somnophilia, dubcon, sex pollen, and cnc
XVIII. the shame corner for naughty fanfiction: fics with issues within the actual work. mostly background 3zun, hints of jl/lsz, and some weird gender and/or sex stuff. I put the better ones first and the worst ones after them. still read the author notes and everything but I genuinely think these are good quality besides their issues. funnily enough most of the author issues here are actually less serious than they were in the previous section
*grave goods* by luckymarrow
summary: a modern AU work exploring mortality and grief, set in NYC. wwx is a mortician and lwj is a lawyer advocating for trafficked women and undocumented immigrants. this was a very realistic and kind look at death from both a professional and personal standpoint in ways that I found very cathartic and personally meaningful. the way lwj’s mother was discussed made me really emotional and his arc regarding her came full circle so beautifully towards the end. and a-yuan was REALLY cute, I think they captured him so well. it has a hopeful finale, but it really puts you through the ringer. it did get a little corny towards the end tho. either canon but more novel in the sex scenes
check author notes for warnings pertaining to death and grieving, child death, domestic violence, family death, femicide (though not named as such), and suicide
some of the sex scenes are really hardcore bdsm so just keep that in mind but everything is clearly consensual and safe
work issues: one of the sex scenes has a hint of cnc? it's like two lines and like I said above it's all clearly consensual and they check in with each other and all
author issues: has written genderbends
*paired wings soaring by typefortydeductions
summary: in this modern british AU, lwj (poetry translator) and wwx (artist) move in with lwj’s aging mother (a poet in exile from china) after she has a fall. the tenderness and heart and romance of this was so beautiful, especially with how it tied into wwx’s art pieces
subtle references to domestic violence/abuse re: mama lan situation. nothing is gratuitous or even spelled out explicitly
work issues: there was a short scene of (consensual-after-the-fact) somnophilia and some…weird things in some of the sex scenes. the bdsm was written better than in most fics, and I did like that they focused more on trust, but some of them still skeeved me out.
lxc is with jgy in this, and he does not turn out to be evil or betray him or anything and it ends with 3zun so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
also when wwx proposed to lwj he went down on both knees because he’s a sub 😭 aneeway
author issues: has written cnc, dubcon, genderbends, A/B/O and 3zun
The Shape of Your Love (is Horny) by Vamillepudding
summary: demon influencer wwx meets and then tries to romance a mortal lwj without knowing much about how humans work, despite having lived on earth for years and watching a lot of demon porn about humans. just really silly and off the wall. they nail lwj being a weirdo and this makes him really compatible with non-human wwx. the way they had instant chemistry and fell right into a relationship was so low-drama and sweet.
based on the title you'd think there are weird sex things going on but it's actually rated just T. nhs is great and there's a ton of really funny lan family moments and jc stuff too.
work issues: unfortunately the other main couple is jgy/lxc
author issues: see above - xiyao
*happy not knowing* by plonk
summary: this bold author dared to ask the question: what if lxc was incredibly stupid? what if he didn’t realize his brother was gay? what if he was offensively, hilariously, absurdly oblivious to the fact that wwx and lwj were together in a romantic and sexual sense? while they all lived together in CR? for years? the result is a very funny multi-POV tale lasting five+ years that at the end reached heights of heteronormative nonsense so extreme that it was genuinely hurtful. but I love that lxc is the butt of every joke and mocked at every turn, presented as foolishly oblivious while everyone else knows the truth. I adore qin su in this, and the rest of the story actually goes quite well for everyone compared to canon, so it’s a lot more lighthearted
wq and jc is a background pair (that lxc is equally oblivious to), but they showed up only once or twice and jc doesn’t abandon her clan to death in this AU so I don’t mind too much
if lxc’s inability to see wx’s relationship as romantic is upsetting instead of humorous to you, this may be a fic to skip. the other characters do see and support wx even when lxc doesn’t
work issues: although not treated as important, the line that established wx were sleeping together stated that their first time was when wwx was drunk. wwx refers to himself once as a wife. there’s a scene of somnophilia (sort of?), which I found very uncomfortable even if it was consensual. it also leans into wx having loud and aggressive sex everywhere in CR, and it’s implied they have sex outside where juniors saw them so 😬
author issues: has written genderbends and A/B/O, along with *gestures to the above*
remember how the morning will arrive by remiges
summary: a three-part series focused on lqr, who postcanon continues to grapple with his history of child sexual abuse at the hands of his older brother. this is an intense work, but not graphic or gratuitous, and it has a hopeful ending. it incorporates an interesting and unique backstory for lqr and madam lan, and the way it handles trauma and evokes emotion is incredibly powerful and cathartic despite lqr's very bleak and painful personal backstory, and lqr shares moments of solidarity with other survivors of sexual abuse. the novel-leaning characterizations were overall quite good
work issues: I really liked the first two parts of this series, but the third one disappointed me. lqr stumbles upon a (non-graphic) cnc roleplay scene with wx and, understandably, loses his shit. it's handled about as well as it could be by the characters, lqr is immediately told that what's happening in consensual, and once he has a few days to process he’s like ‘yeah that’s your business it’s fine,’ which felt like a slap in the face. the finale of this series does wrap up the story in a really satisfying way, I just wish the author hasn't been so faithful to the novel wx dynamics and then go a step further by having their fictional survivor of csa validate rape roleplay too
author issues: cnc
kick at the darkness ‘til it bleeds daylight by AlfAlfAlfAlfAlf, tardigradeschool
summary: *deep breath* canon divergent parent trap AU where a-yuan had a twin brother, and in the confusion of nightless city, wwx and lwj are both injured in ways that lead them to believe the other AND one of the twins is dead. afterwards, they each raise one twin, lwj in CR and wwx as a rogue cultivator hiding his identity, neither realizing the truth. 16 years later, the twins meet on a night hunt, figure out who they are, and switch places to figure out the story and get their parents together.
the style for this fic was super fun, and I thought the humor, characterizations, and relationship writing were just excellent. jyl is alive, and lxc plays a much different role in wx’s relationship; the darker elements juxtapose the lighter ones quite nicely. while the relationships between all of the 'good guys' lacked the drama and tension of canon, flashback-era wx were just devastatingly romantic and tender, and their post-reunion relationship is very sweet. there’s a surprise f/f ship we see towards the end! the finale gives some quieter characters a chance to shine, though I did find it a bit silly and melodramatic
personally there was way too much kid content compared to wx content, but that's just a preference on my end. if you like the juniors you'll probably enjoy that part more than I did. just see the notes about it, because...
work issues: you know how fucking mad I am that this fic started hinting that jl had a crush on lsz. here they’re closer in age and technically only family friends since wwx isn’t in the picture, but there’s no excuse for ljy to then start crushing on wwx’s kid who switches spots with lsz. like, obvs I still consider it incest but ig in-universe it’s only not incest by the barest of technicalities 🙄
none of the kids actually get together in the fic itself, but it was just SO annoying and gross and then the author had to be like ‘lol they start dating’ in the notes after the last chapter. shut UP!
author issues: see above, but also xiyao, niyao, and 3zun
oh, these are real things
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typefortydeductions
summary: the first work of a modern AU where newly-together wwx and lwj deal with wwx’s depersonalization issues and negotiate having sex that ramps up in kinkiness. I really liked all the communication happening and I thought it was a neat translation of wwx’s issues to a non-magical setting
I don’t like the rest of the series as much but here’s a rundown: it follows them as they continue managing their issues, adopt kids, and handle becoming parents. there's some gender stuff that gets weird later bc they really lean into wwx’s breeding kink and make him genderfluid so they call him a wife and mom. the characterizations were...decent.
I do like the maturity, realism, and emotional honesty in the rest of the series. the bdsm scenes can be really intense because they legit do hardcore sadism and masochism, but because they communicate so thoroughly about it, I didn’t dislike it in the way I dislike most bdsm in fic. but I still skimmed a lot of the sex scenes. and overall I don’t like it enough to rec
work issues: for this first fic, really nothing.
for the rest of the series, lwj is a bit possessive, there’s some emphasis on wwx being skinny/lwj’s big hands, and 3zun is a background couple. xxc/sl/xy is also mentioned as a poly relationship. wwx is not cis in this one (undefined but akin to genderfluid, and occasionally calls himself a girl, wife, and mother) and it gets a little weird? however none of this shows up in the first work.
author issues: same author as above - cnc, dubcon, A/B/O, genderbends
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