#Scratch and Grounder
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four-henchmen-for-eggy · 7 months ago
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Scratch's favourite snack might be popcorn because... Well, he's a rooster, WHAT DID YOU EXPECTED?
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thehmn · 5 months ago
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Robotnik/Eggman doesn’t seem to be too concerned with whether his sidekicks hate or love him (or both). I’ve been obsessed with the weirdness of the Sonic comics lately which made me realize Robotnik has had way more sidekicks than I thought.
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roachthered · 8 months ago
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Imma start including scratch and grounder in the Eggman family I miss them
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theiblistrigger · 2 months ago
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adventures of sonic the hedgehog best brother moments compilation!!!
including chores, playing leapfrog, and tails being the cutest <3 enjoy
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the-crazy-echidna-lady · 6 days ago
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1930s styled Scratch and Grounder requested by @thatzombieinafedora ! ^^ My first time drawing these two as well. Such shapey little guys. Other than orbot and cubot they're my fav eggman lackeys. They barely had to have any altercations because they work well for the old cartoons because of the softer edges.
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radiantrookie · 6 months ago
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SEGA Mandates explained with their exceptions (Old)
Edit: (Plan on remaking this with a better format and sources, along with ones I missed)
Edit 2: Here's the New One
Game characters cannot have family members unless they were established in the game canon (Because Archie went overboard).
Game characters cannot be killed off.
Sonic cannot cry or get too emotional.
Exception: Sonic Prime didn't follow this rule despite being canon.
The terms Mobius and Mobians are banned, during the early 2010s, Earth was called "Sonic's World" because they wanted to appeal to 90s Boomers who hate Sonic living on Earth without calling it Mobius, it died down later though.
Exception: Ian Flynn has stated SEGA recanonized Sonic Spinball, which takes place in Mobius, so it exists somewhere in game canon, Veg-O-Fortress even has a cameo in Sonic Origins, Ian also stated Spinball takes place in between Sonic 3 and Knuckles and Sonic 3D Blast.
The heroes must always win at the end.
Characters and elements from Non Canon media cannot be used, Cosmo and the Metarex were potentially allowed to appear but according Ian Flynn, they're off the table now, the Metal Virus serves as a replacement for Robotization, Eggperial City serves as a replacement for Robotropolis, Restoration serves as a replacment for the Freedom Fighters.
Exceptions:
Sonic liking Chili Dogs (90s Cartoons)
Eggman's "I hate that Hedgehog!" and "Snooping as usual" lines (Aosth)
Scratch and Grounder appear in Eggman's livestream in one of the covers for IDW 40
Sonic's "Let's do it, to it" line (Satam)
Sonic being referred to as the "Fastest thing alive" (Satam)
Sonic Spinball being canon again, somwhat canonizes Sally, Bunnie, Rotor, Muttski and Scratch, Ian Flynn has clarified they're just cameos for now but could be a backdoor to make them canon if SEGA chooses to (Aosth, Satam, Archie)
In one of the covers for IDW 31, Storm's mugshot mentions he was arrested by the Knothole Village Police (Satam, Archie)
Tails being afraid of lightning (OVA)
Knuckles's cowboy hat (OVA)
Vector's crush on Vanilla (Sonic X)
Cream's favorite show, the NEXT Show (Sonic X)
The Chaotix Office building appears in the Sonic Channel Comics (Sonic X)
Sticks the Badger appears in the Sonic Channel Comics and is mentioned in English Sonic Frontiers (Sonic Boom)
The Eggnet has been canonized in both IDW and the Games (Archie)
The GUN Commander's name, Abraham Tower (Archie)
Bark being mute (Archie)
Bean and Bark working with Fang as a trio, Sonic even calls them the Hooligans (Archie)
Sally and Bunnie cameo in one of the Sonic Forces prequel comics with their Archie designs (Archie)
Shadow's Chaos Spear being shaped like an actual spear that he can throw or use as a melee weapon (Archie)
Badniks from Sonic Mega Drive appear in Classic IDW (Archie)
The term, Super Badnik (Archie)
Male characters that aren't humans, can't wear pants.
Exception: Tails Nine is allowed to wear pants.
Classic Era characters aren't allowed to appear in Modern Era and vice versa, during the 2010s there was the Two Dimensions retcon because of it, however they later removed it, Team Chaotix are also not allowed to appear in Classic because they considered Sonic Heroes to be their first appearance, however Knuckles Chaotix was recanonized in Tailstube, in the same episode, they acknowledge Mighty, Ray and Fang's Gang and teased a Modern Trip, recently, SEGA is considering retiring Classic Sonic after the disappointment of Sonic Superstars.
Exception: a Classic Froggy appears in various Sonic PICT artwork
Only one Metal Sonic is allowed, not multiple (They must really dislike Shard and Metallix)
Exceptions:
Metal Sonic 3.0 from Sonic Rivals 2
Chaos Sonic and Grim Sonic from Sonic Prime were allowed
Shadow: He has the most guidelines out of any character, most of them come from SEGA wanting Shadow to remain an Anti-Hero and not be too heroic, however SEGA has easied up on these with Shadow Generations
Knuckles: Knuckles is the only Echidna and only resident of Angel Island besides Chao and Baby Animals, (Ken Penders lol), Knuckles is also not allowed leave Angel Island without a reason now, prolly due to critiques with games like Heroes
Silver: Silver's Future is off limits, only SEGA can explore that, if they ever choose to
Super Forms: Male hedgehogs are the only ones allowed to go Super, this has been changed with Sonic Superstars and Otherworld Comedy.
Humans: Due to complaints from 90s Boomers, Humans besides Eggman weren't allowed until Shadow Generations
Romance: Characters can have crushes but they can't date or get married.
Money: Only Team Chaotix can talk about money
Rings: Ian Flynn was told Rings were no longer canon, however Rings appear in Sonic Prime and cutscenes in The Final Horizon, which Ian didn't know about
Special Stages: No longer canon and Fang's bio of living in the Special Stages is retconned
Off Limits Characters: These characters can only be used by SEGA/Sonic Team only:
Eggman Nega
Black Doom
Solaris (Mephiles and Iblis)
Infinite
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mochamoth · 7 months ago
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Drew the robot twins!
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I made Scratch a trans woman because to me she is a girl. Yay! Anyways uhh headcanon dump time. Scratch got the bow from Henrietta (IDC what happened in the episode, to me they are doomed yuri). Grounder is often covered in mud because.. Well duh. He has a tail too cuz mole. Uhh both have piercings cuz I think they're cool! And that's all BYE.
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tealeaf905 · 4 months ago
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This lil comic page was supposed to not be for Valentine’s but I decided to post it early for the holiday either way cuz why not and it fits the mood
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Goobers
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zkitty8 · 8 months ago
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Scratch and Grounder getting along with Agent Stone REAL!!!!
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sanctuary-sonic-au · 2 months ago
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Wouldn’t it be funny if Scratch could just-
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disabled-battlekukku · 2 years ago
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Thinking about the utter familial tragedy of Eggman and some of his mooks (AND Eggman himself).
Scratch and Grounder always try to do their best to appease Robotnik but always get screamed at and they don't like it all but they think that's how it's supposed to happen everytime no matter if they do something bad or good because that's how they were "raised" like and they don't know that people can like. actually get loved regularly.
Orbot and Cubot are in a similar situation but they KNOW why they don't like it and they would love some actual praise and attention sometime but if they ever actually got praised they wouldn't know what to do because that never happens to them.
Coconuts and Snively are in the very middle, but they're also complete opposites in that case.
Coconuts knows what he's enduring is bad and he HATES it, but he also would go through hell and back to appease Robotnik any way he can, because he's DESPERATE for attention, and it doesn't matter from who it comes from.
Snively hates living with his uncle and everything about what he lives and he wants to overthrow his uncle multiple times, but also... he lives to serve at that point, what will he do when nobody tells him what to do? Will he KNOW what to do? (Also, it's kinda implied in the Archie comics that Colin wasn't exactly the best father either).
And don't even let me get started on Metal Sonic, Mecha Mk. II, Belle, Mecha Robotnik, and all his other robot children.
Eggman himself is a complete mess. Game Eggman is already implied to not have the best childhood as his family seemingly paid more attention to Maria than to him. Boom! Eggman is strongly implied to have both mommy and daddy issues. Aosth! Robotnik is a whole mess himself, having a explicitly abusive mother to the point where you actually feel pity of him. Even Paramount! Eggman seemed to have a bad childhood as he was an orphan. Now, you all probably get it by now, Eggman had a shit childhood. What am I getting by this?
He's entranced in a cycle of abuse. Do you fucking get me. DO YOU FUCKING GET ME
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carto0ncritter · 7 months ago
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Abusive fictional fathers - Robotnik vs. Stolas
I won't be talking about Coconuts here since he's not on screen that much, but know that I feel sorry for the stuff he's been through, poor guy
Robotnik ⮕ Scratch & Grounder
Like... he literally only created these two to use and abuse them and that's crystal clear
When I say Robotnik is an abusive pos, this is what I mean (and this is just some of the physical abuse, don't even get me started on the emotional):
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...Okay, that last picture was the last straw. Robotnik's thrist for power has officially outweighted Scratch and Grounder's "value." He felt 0 remorse for throwing them into the lava. Keep in mind, he THOUGHT HE HAD KILLED THEM and DIDN'T CARE AT ALL. Thankfully they were fine. And no the fact that they're robots doesn't make it any less wrong
If you're willing to sacrifice your children for a powerful artefact, then I'm (NOT) sorry to say this, but you're a heartless pos and deserve to be held accountable for your actions. If I were in Scratch and Grounder's shoes, I would have ran the hell away right then and there and found home elsewhere
However, unlike with Stolas and Octavia, at least the narrative doesn't try to convince us that Robotnik loves his sons. Because if he did, he would have tried to change his behavior. Or better, he wouldn't have abused them IN THE FIRST PLACE! AT ALL! No matter what he had gone through! I'm not denying that his mom was a pos to him just like he's a pos to scratch and grounder, but i refuse to see this as an excuse. he should have tried his best to break the cycle of abuse
*sigh* Now I've gotta talk about that stupid bird man... let's just get this over with.
Stolas ⮕ Octavia
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Stolas is shown to have been there for Via in her childhood. although we never see them bond over anything, connect emotionally with each other or spend quality time together, we've only got this one nightmare scene. this was the only time stolas was shown to care about octavia
He did his best to calm her down and make her feel safe, then proceeded to break his promise for a booty call. For a childhood "friend" that his father bought for him 25 years ago.
And you're telling me how Stolas didn't realize that bringing Blitzø along in Loo Loo Land is uh... a bad idea that will make his daughter feel even worse?
I HATE the excuse that Stolas was "just clueless." Because anyone with the tiniest bit of common sense would come to the same conclusion: flirting with your booty call in front of your daughter who is a minor and going through emotional hell that happened because you cheated on her mother makes you a horrible and selfish father.
Even worse is that Stolas doesn't learn his lesson and once again neglects Octavia. Stolas is too busy hating his ex wife and gushing over his abuse victim that he can't even be bothered to look for his daughter himself, and instead Loona has to be the one to go find her. And then she literally tells Via how her dad's trying his best and how she should cut him some slack. No. No she shouldn't. Octavia was right to think that Stolas hates Stella more than he loves her because that's what his actions show.
He can hug her all he wants and promise to do better but he has done nothing to even TRY to be better for this poor girl.
Not to mention that Loona is a hypocrite. Blitzø has always been doing his best to be a good dad to her, and she thanks him for saving her life by being a complete bitch. It's been five. Fucking. Years. Of unconditional love and support from Blitzø's side. And what does he get in return? A kick in the balls. Blitzø also got beat up by her and hit with the "if I'm so terrible why don't you replace me" after he rightfully called her out and you're trying to tell me Blitzø was the one in the wrong and how this isn't abusive huh ok then whatever ya say
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I won't talk about the upcoming episode much. I honestly just don't have the strength anymore. But to make it as short as possible, Stolas is gonna be treated like an uwu poor sad gay boi and once again choose Blitzø, the guy he r*ped, over his own child.
If you check out the leaked story boards for s2 ep12, you'll see how disgusting it is that Via is spitting nothing but facts and yet she'll be demonized by the writers, Stolas lovers and Stolitz shippers. Just...
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Please stop lying, dude. Just stop. You shattered her entire life and neglected her for a guy you abused and never got to know on a level that's deeper than sex. No wonder Via thinks he doesn’t love her anymore. The line above gives me the same vibe as THIS line also they made Stolas not only ACT like a guy who victimizes himself but LOOK that way too
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STOP LYING. JUST SHUT UP.
I hate this self-pitying hypocrite sm.
And yeah, I get it: he was put in an arranged marriage (this was clearly a retcon, but whatever floats viv's boat) despite being gay and was sheltered and never had friends, but those are explanations for his behavior, not excuses.
Oh and, to anyone who thinks otherwise: Emotional neglect is a form of abuse.
Closing Thoughts
One important thing that I noticed with both Scratch and Grounder and Octavia, is how none of them feel at home with their fathers. A reliable way to know whether you've failed as a parent or not is to see how your behavior affects your kid(s). How does your behavior make them feel?
Let's see here... *checks notes*
Octavia says how Stolas ruined their family, not Stella and in ep12 she's finally gonna call him out on his bullshit thank god. but unfortunately the toxic gay ship will once again be a priority because it's gay
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Scratch and Grounder are terrified of Robotnik's wrath, he constantly makes them feel useless and unwanted, but at the same time, they have no problem betraying him both of them always come back to him, just like how Blitzø doesn't leave his abuser because he wants to feel "loved" and "needed" for once even though Stolas treats him like shit
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So yeah, if you made your kid(s) feel this way, you've officially failed as a father.
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masquayla-the-splendid · 3 months ago
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Adventures on Saturday fans, I got da milk. That's what I'm calling this AU now. "Aosth/Satam crossover" is a mouthful, and is a little vauge on what the AU actually is. (I'm not doing "Saturday Adventures" either, because "SA" is already a Sonic abbreviation, and it's a yikes one if you dont specificy a number.)
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It's like you can tell the other fandoms I'm in.
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xdraonarts · 1 year ago
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SaTBK PROMPT WEEK || ROYAL || DAY 3
[Prompt List] | [Day 1] | [Day 2] | [Day 4] | [Day 5] | [Day 6] | [Day 7] | [Day 8] | Last Year
@satbkpromptweek @sonicstorybook
PoV You just spoke about a soon-rising enemy to the Robotnik Empire.
They had to hear about Prince Arthur from somewhere, after all.
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twipsai · 10 months ago
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DOODLE DUUUUMP!!!! explanation for all of them under the cut]
dont tag as ship :thumbsup: (except blazamy you can tag that one yayy)
1 - im just bad at the supreme fight i guess. and bad at parrying. so i projected onto Sonic
2 - trying to get the hang of drawing the classic bros! im not entirely happy with Tails yet but we're getting there,,!!
3 - scratch and grounder redesigns, specifically trying to make them look like they fit within the classic era! Grounder is based on a burrobot more than a. well. grounder, and Scratch is based on Gemeral proportionally lol
4 - Sonic colorpicked from his Advance 1 sprites!
5 - self explanatory
6 - my Tikal desgin! not much is changed except for a few colors, changing her eye shape, and making her jewelry look more like jade!
7 - trying to figure out how i wanna draw Knuckles' hands, + a little test for Tails. someone get those guys some nai lpolish !!!!
8 - Sonic in one of Goku's fits during the Cell Saga!
9, 10 - my versions of Darkspine and Werehog!!!
11, 12, 13 - bullshit doodles because i hadnt drawn Sonic in awhile and i needed to get the hang of it again lol
14 - SILVER AND BLAZE IN THEIR SUMMER FUN OUTFITS!!! with some slight edits to make em match more <3 ahhhh i love them so muchh eheheheh theyre making fun of Sonic for being late to their beach party or whatever
15 - sa2 finale :(
16 - BLAZAMY!!!!!!!! WOOO YAYYYY
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dragonsleather · 1 year ago
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I love it when they smile and are friends. Gets me every time
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