#Traum Singularity

[edswordsman]

Summoned a new Alter Ego-class Servant:

☯️ Xu Fu! ☯️

[sawbeaver]

[homeinchaldea]

Had to hit pity to get her. Thanks Pope.

Anyway, she’s maxed and grailed now.

Welcome to the “Grailed Saints Club”

[professional-rat-eater]

Let’s just be super clear. If you ship Daniel and Armand and you genuinely believe it wasn’t a horribly abusive relationship, then you are reading their relationship wrong and you also believe there are circumstances where relationships between kidnapper/abuser and kidnapped/abused can work. Saying it’s just fiction doesn’t make sense because it still doesn’t exist there.

It’s not about the law, or what was common at the time. The relationship is believable. That definitely happened back in the 1970s. It’s not about whether it could have happened, because those relationships still happen in some places. But just because we don't want to use the medical term for the severe damage being done to Daniel’s mind, does not mean it didn’t happen.

There is no context that you could give that would make a relationship between a regular human (a deeply traumatised one) and a grown powerful abuser healthy. It does not exist, even in fiction. Daniel was an actual human and that isn’t how humans work.

Just call it what it is. If that’s gonna be your thing, be honest about what it actually is. If Daniel himself can acknowledge it, then you should be able to as well. It’s impossible to actually discuss these characters if people are just going to lie and purposely misinterpret them. Daniel’s trauma is literally the entire Devil's Minion thing and Armand is all that there's to it. If Armand isn’t an abusive creep, he is simply not Armand.

LMAO! So for anyone seeing this that didn’t see the post that provoked it, this is word-for-word a post I made about Marius and Armand’s relationship but with the names swapped out for Daniel and Armand.

Hey anon, these are not equivalent and I think you know that. Yes, I’m sure there more people like Daniel who were stalked around the globe by ancient vampires in the 1970s. Maybe there’s enough for them to start a support group for each other. And yes, you’re so right that this is exactly the same as real children who are groomed by real adults in the real world. What a fair and reasonable comparison to make that isn’t at all reductive to both DM and the character you’re trying to defend.

I know you probably think this is the call out post of the century but you’ve neglected to consider a pretty significant detail:

Virtually every Devil’s Minion shipper knows they’re toxic, much like Marius fans who understand him can admit to what he is. I know DM are toxic. If I knew Daniel irl, I would be telling him to get the fuck out of there. We all know Armand is evil and manipulative. It’s literally why we like him. I saw how pathetic and fucked up he was and was immediately enchanted by him. You see the difference between that and the specific Marius fans I talk about? We acknowledge exactly what Armand is and enjoy his character for it. We don’t pretend he isn’t a manipulative murderer. That’s (part of) why we like him. Of course that’s not to say there aren’t those who mischaracterise him too, but you responded to me so I can only speak for myself and what I see my mutuals posting about. I love Armand for what he is. All the good parts, all the bad parts, and that is literally all my Marius post was about. Holy shit. It was the singular point I was actually making. You were so close to getting it. I couldn’t give a fuck who your favourite character is, but quit pretending he’s not everything he is because you’re not a fan of him then. You’re a fan of a fanfic version of him.

I think I’ve probably posted at least a dozen times by now about Armand’s trauma shaping him into a monster, but you used DM so let’s go with that. You what’s particularly interesting about them? The many examples of Armand recreating behaviour Marius subjected him to with Daniel. The love bombing, lavishing him with gifts, being incredibly hot and cold with him emotionally, withholding vampirism from him and eventually turning him when he was dying. They’re a deliberate parallel!! Hello!? Terrible example to use!! It’s almost like traumatised people can in certain cases go on to recreate their trauma to try and make sense of it. You can also see this in Armand’s treatment of Claudia. They could’ve bonded over neglect by their makers and being turned young, but Armand decided to take out his trauma on her instead. I love how fucked up he is. Pretty much every Armand fan who gets him is the same. All DM’s existence proves is that Marius actually did deeply damage Armand’s ability to accept love and how he formed relationships, because he’s a fucking predator in multiple senses of the word. Whataboutism literally doesn’t change a thing. Armand could’ve gone after someone underage too and it still wouldn’t change anything about Marius. If anything, it would’ve reinforced it.

But notice how you were forced to acknowledge that Daniel was in fact a grown adult at the time? If he hadn’t been, the ship wouldn’t be nearly as popular.

Most. People. Don’t. Like. Pedophiles. You can’t be this much of a fan of one and be sensitive about it. I’m sorry to be harsh but it’s literally just the truth. Armand fans get enough shit from people who hate him, and it is only going to be worse if you like Marius. I’m not suggesting that’s okay or that I would dream of contributing to it, but it is going to happen more and more after s3 of the show airs. Prepare for that in whatever way is best for you.

You couldn’t even have your username attached to this. If you’re gonna go so hard to defend your favourite pedo, at least have some conviction about it. No one cares who your favourite character is. Well, I’m sure some people do but those people are weirdos and you should learn to ignore them. Love him as much as you want. I’m actually looking forward to seeing him in season 3, even if he is an utter bastard. Just either quit the mischaracterisation or suck it up and get on board with the fact that even in a fictional setting, and even in gothic horror, people do not vibe with pedophiles and they never will.

[zeravmeta]

don quixote fgo is just so good, he is such a hopeful character and i absolutely think he's the standout from traum

what really strikes me about him is that traum is a story dedicated to broken ideals and unfulfilled dreams: the major players of each faction are all characters with failed ambitions and who wage war against panhuman history to achieve those dreams. kriemhild wants revenge on siegfried even after killing hagen, komstantinos wants to remake his old empire, johanna abhors that she is a living fictional character and wants to become a real person, all the nameless servants from each faction are dedicated to rebel not only because of zhang jue's influence but because they all, in some form, had unfinished business, dreams they never fulfilled. this even extends to moriarty himself, a younger version who's fixated on defeating holmes because his older version could not, and he follows through on it because he did not really understand the value of his own nemesis, a fact that ultimately left him defeated no matter how much he tried to control fate. All of these characters refused to face the reality of their failures, and honestly don quixote was the most guilty of this

he was originally a servant summoned in the atlantean lostbelt, and genuinely did try to rally heroes, but as he saw these legendary figures he adored be struck down he lost hope. it wasn't just that he was afraid, it was that the heroes around himself had given up even before him, a craven old man.

the thing is though that the reason don quixote and sancho ran is antithetical to the reasons that the other servants ran: they did it specifically to survive. sancho was able to convince don quixote to leave because she reminded him that it wasn't wrong or evil to want to live, and this was only possible because don quixote, despite being a servant, still thinks of himself as being human. even though he consciously understands himself as being a servant, his way of thinking and reasoning is undeniably that of a normal human

A big part of his too is that traum is also a singularity in which the names of heroic spirits have lost their meaning: the sheer volume of servants means that there is no singular standout hero, sure, but when kriemhild killed the lancer who was about to declare his name she called him merely a foot soldier because said name was worthless, in traum there is only the endless war of people slaughtering each other, and ironically a unifying peace in that.

names are the linchpins of heroic spirits: servants aren't the ghosts of dead people, they're the manifestations of what those legends meant to humanity, all codified by the names they carry. servants have to name themselves and have names for their noble phantasms which directly identify them because they are literal living legends. Yet in traum, those names and legends and meanings become all but worthless in the face of endless war as armies of these protectors of humanity are reduced to mere foot soldiers. there is a similar parallel to this when vlad goes to the righteous realm, and as he sees the army gathered he finds it entirely lacking because it's fully composed of singular standout heroes who are all used to essentially being the main character and thus cant function as a unit. Traum is a world where being a hero has no meaning.

but i think that's also why don quixote declares himself against konstantinos and challenged him: in this moment, he reclaimed the value of being a knight who fights for his ideals, that of a true hero

konstantinos throughout traum is presented as equally a legendary figure as charlemagne is, and yet his reason for fighting is incredibly simple: he's in love with johanna and wants to make her real to panhuman history, and to this end he'll continue the war in traum as needed for that end. kriemhild has an equal but opposite reason rooted in the same thing: love. she wants revenge against siegfried for having gone through with hagens plan, for not letting her in to his pain, he was too much of a hero for everyone that it led him to sacrificing himself even if it would hurt her. konstantinos wanted to be the perfect knight, and kriemhild wanted to get revenge against her own knight for being too perfect.

The thing is, despite their insistence on traum being the cruel reality of a war, both of them were holding onto rather idealized, almost romanticized versions of what a knight should be.

konstantinos knows and declares don quixote as being likely the most famous knight to have ever lived, but he dismisses him as a threat when actually fighting him. When he's about to finish him, he tells don quixote that he has to face reality as he's about to die. However, the story of don quixote was always that of an old man whom lost himself to his fantasies of chivalry and knightly idealism, and despite the troubles he caused still continued to fight for what he believed was honorable. Even if he had returned to reality in the end, there was still meaning to the outright silly journey of an old man knight long past the age of chivalry, of the old man who, despite his fear, still chose to rally an army and fight for the world he felt he had failed.

what traum needed was someone who did good not as a hero but as a human. almost every knightly character in fate carries grand ideals as to why they are knights, but the only requirement to BE a knight and a hero is the simple desire to do good for others, and don quixote is fittingly the most famous knight in the world because he's utterly obsessed with the great chivalric legends of old, yet still strived to do good in the way normal people do.

it's why charlie finds him so inspiring, as well

for all the non-extella link players, charlemagne as we see him in fgo is actually the fictionalized version of him from the tales of the paladins of charlemagne and not the actual karl der Große. He's even more fictionalized than johanna and don quixote himself, because while johanna might have been an erroneous account and don quixote a story book character, charlemagne is a full on sensationalized re-imagining of an already real person. but even if he may be a fictionalized person, what he represents is what matters the most, the same with any heroic spirit, which is why charlemagne considers johanna just as real and why the actual karl der Große saw fit to send him to traum

at the center of traum we ultimately find wakamori, who despite seeming cruel and mysterious throughout the entire plot, has shown multiple times that he's essentially trying to fill in bigger shoes than he can: He's obsessed with defeating sherlock and presenting himself as the ultimate evil, but he's still green at the end of the day, and I think this is in part what leads him to somewhat even respect don quixote

when he tries to taunt don quixote, he does so with the assumption that much like himself, don quixote is attempting to play the part he represents most: don quixote is surely trying to be the greatest most idealized version of a knight, the same way wakamori is trying to be the perfected version of himself, the true evil mastermind whom can finally defeat sherlock. But don quixote flat out tells him that conflict and even life itself has always had no inherent meaning nor any inherent roles to play, so much in the same way that he has no special value to his life tied to being a knight, wakamori's own value is not tied specifically to that of being sherlock holmes' greatest evil rival. There's a surprising empathy in this exchange I feel, because don quixote understands wakamori immediately where it took sherlock the entire story: there's nothing wrong with being a little delusional, but you have to treat them with respect.

wakamori ultimately fails because he believed that defeating sherlock would finally give value to james moriarty as the ultimate villain, unaware that sherlock holmes is the defining equal to james moriarty. there is no purpose to a story with an evil mastermind that doesn't have an equally great hero trying to stop him, and wakamori failing to understand that his own value as such is not diminished by not having ever defeated holmes is what ruins him: He didn't respect the story he was so enthralled by. shinjuku showcased a similar dynamic, but the difference between shinjuku and traum is that the older moriarty very much understood what it would take to succeed, and that would be to become the protagonist of the story, rather than the ultimate final boss.

the stories of knights and heroes and monsters and spurned loves and great detectives and evil masterminds are all in part defined by the meanings that people derive from them, from the ordinary good that they can inspire first and foremost. And even though don quixote may have been a craven old man who eventually gave up chivalry, he still tried to live a good life and do good the way any ordinary person would.

And that's such a genuinely hopeful and kind sentiment to tie to the concept of knightly ideals: you don't have to be grand to be a hero, and you don't even have to be a hero to inspire others.

[luce-ciel]

You try so hard not to add another ship to your armada…then Traum Singularity hits you. -sigh- and you find out that there’s only a bit of fanfics and fanarts of your new ship.

Guess I’ll feed myself.

[mako-neexu]

i forgot how traum showed me how fucked up guda is lmao. being threatened casually is the norm. a ticking time bomb in the form of a woman that could kill you any moment but theyre chill about it...torturers/executors killed right in front of them but they dont bat an eye on it and most of all, dont lose their appetite despite the corpses at their feet. oh yeah traum also showed the fucked up sense of taste they had because of this journey...i think i remember jp players back then saying that they either cant taste anything anymore or their tongue is now something like... what is sweet is salty, what is spicy is sweet... and in being asked about talking about themselves, guda most likely have started with waking up post-simulator trial combat instead of who they are, when they were born etc...(it could still be included but each singularity is a long story to tell..)

[scentedtheoristperfection]

sion isnt trustworthy

Sion's exposition is not trustworthy, and should always be treated with heavy skepticism. She is the cause of every wrong conclusion Chaldea has made.

A thread on the many contradictions and deliberate mistakes in her exposition.

(Spoilers for up to the intro of LB7)

Let's clarify something real quick, this is not me attacking Sion as a bad character. I adore her even more than Aoko. This is not me claiming that she's behind the Bleached Earth, or that she is pure evil. This is just me pointing out that she is manipulative for her interests.

She believes that Holmes was meant to guide Chaldea through LB5 and then destroy them from within. But she also claims his days were numbered when Moriarty was chosen as an Apostle... Traum formed before Atlantis as we know thanks to Quixote...

She doubles down on this contradiction with the aforementioned claim that Holmes could not betray the Foreign God because he was an Apostle- so he sealed his memories. Is that not an act of betrayal? But also… Moriarty betrays the Foreign God… or at least thinks he does. So let's go beyond the LB7 Prologue now back to the Traum Prologue. Trimegistus II and Sheba both return errors when observing Traum and act like it's a sudden thing. Sion references it in both Avalon le Fae and Tunguska- showing she is already aware of it.

This screenshot is Avalon le Fae. The second one is Traum right before entering the singularity- she gets the same prediction for it- but doesn't share it until last minute yet again. Since SHEBA/Trisgmegistus had errors, she either is able to fabricate their readings or-

Has a more accurate method of making predictions than even Trismegistus which is a replica of Tri-Hermes and SHEBA which literally observes the future? (She has Logos React, an Atlas Superweapon designed around predicting and creating hypothetical histories in a GudaGuda) Regardless of which it is, both have pretty big of implications of her manipulations. But scripting order is par for the course with Sion. Nemo outright admits she scripted going to LB2 and told them how LB4 would go in LB4.

But Tunguska takes things to a new level.

So why would Sion go through the trouble of staging a martyr moment? I'll let Mash go through the trouble of explaining this one for me.

[prettycottonmouthlamia]

All in all with Traum? It's...honestly I'm gonna say it. It's Apocrypha 2.

The good parts of Higashide's writing come through here. He's great at creating cool scenes where the servants get to show their stuff (if he respects the characters, we'll get to this). Astolfo vs Tametomo and Roland's scenes are great, and even though there are issues with Johanna as a character she has some genuinely well-written moments. Even Don Quixote has his time in the spotlight which you wouldn't expect.

But the bad parts are really present. If Higashide does not seem to care about a character, they're just going to die or be killed offscreen. Salome's entire presence in the lostbelt is bait, she doesn't really join you and literally just gets sniped by Sugitani. Sugitani themselves only show up TWICE in the entire Lostbelt: the scene where they shoot Salome and the scene at the end where she takes a shot at Zhang Jue, who doesn't die and instantly kills them in response. The reveal that Sugitani was working to destroy the Lostbelt the whole time has no weight to it because they've not shown up ever! They don't even know who we are. It's the weirdest Chekov's Gun ever.

Zhang Jue himself is a very weird case where he's technically quite important but he doesn't really do anything particularly interesting. He just sort of "dies" a couple of times, and then it's revealed he's been dead the whole time and probably made the entire singularity? But this is narrated to us by Moriarty and we don't see it or hear it from Zhang Jue because again he's...dead, kind of. It just feels weird, it feels like we should have a climatic final battle but uh...we never do.

Kriemhild...*sigh* I'm not going to go into detail on this. It's bad writing, it's really bad. It's a sudden character reversal with no real build-up or foreshadowing or...anything. It destroys every aspect of her character and leaves behind only "Siegfried's wife" which at this point, I guess I should expect from Higashide. Maybe he is a misogynist.

With the possible exception of Xu Fu, literally EVERY female character in this lostbelt is defined by their relationship to a man in some way. Some of it is obviously pre-established like Bradamante or Kiyohime, but once you get to "Johanna and Constantine XI are in love" you just kind of hope it dies in this singularity. Johanna is a cool character outside of this, and if this fucking envelops her character from here on out I'm gonna be pissed.

I don't have any strong feelings about the Holmes reveal, I do think it's funny that its foreshadowed quite early on, but it comes from a fairly logical place. It's a bitttt silly but honestly not the worst thing in the world.

[edswordsman]

Summoned a new Saber-Class Servant:

Roland! 🗡️

[daepicfirestar]

LB6.5 Traum Spoilers

Lostbelt 6.5 Traum Theory: Siegfried is not real

I could be biased, because this relates to one of the twists in the episode, and how I do not wish it was real. If that makes sense.

My Theory: The Siegfried shown to reunite with Kriemhild is not real.

Evidence:

1. Siegfried has no memory of being helpful to Master. Despite that he has in MULTIPLE times. There is also no memory he has of meeting Astolfo in Apocrypha, which is what Astolfo is implied to have.

2. The way he behaves is quite strange. I get that the original promise Siegfried made to Master was that if she was alive he would fight on her side, and this original promise would still make sense if the theory was true. However, the fact that Siegfried stops calling Master "Master" and instead by name. So suddenly. It doesn't fit his character. Ironically for a character who was betrayed to be the betrayer, a Servant known to be loyal.

His favor quote "I'm told you and I fought side by side once before. I'm sorry I have no memory of it. I only hope I proved useful in that battle... At any rate, I have a favor to ask you. Once I tell you what it is...I'll understand if you decide to kill me."

Siegfried again "I... I made a mistake. And, I'm about to make another one. ...Master. No... (y/n). Kriemhild will never use her demonic sword again. The mass of magical energy the Holy Grails were providing to her is gone. Our battle consumed nearly all of it. I tried to kill her and I nearly succeeded. And now, here we are. This is exactly what we agreed to. I...hope you can forgive me. You have my gratitude for granting this foolish wish of mine."

Later. Siegfried comes close to Kriemhild and says, "Your ambitions... Your dreams... Whatever you want to call them, any hopes you had of permanently establishing this Singularity are dashed for good and all. The Holy Grailed are now in our enemy's [Master's] hands." Then to Master, "I'm sorry to surprise you. But I decided this some time ago. If Kriemhild is still alive even after we stop her...then from that moment on, I want to fight for her. ...Even if that means you and I should become enemies. Even if it should result in my own death."

In Fate/Grand Order Siegfired's "My Room" lines were all having to do with loyalty and the like. Even in Apocrypha when he was serving Gordes Musik Yggdmillennia who wasn't very friendly to him he still showed better behavior. Plus it's not like memories are always wiped because the "My Room" Siegfried voice lines clearly remember Aporcypha. In my Room, he doesn't mention anything regarding the events in Traum (but Kriemhild does) His only line about Kriemhild is as follows: "I didn't expect you to come, but... you came, Kriemhild. I don't know what to tell you... no, there's no need to say anything... Huh? 'What can be put into words is put into words.'? I see...I love you, Kriemhild...Was it inevitable that you would bring out Balmung in this exchange?''

This pattern of mood indicated in Traum is very heavily resembling that of EMIYA in the Unlimited Blade Works route, where he betrays Tohsaka to serve under Medea for his own benefit (to kill Shirou) however even then this theory is justified through EMIYA's morally grey nature and "Independent Action" which Siegfried doesn't have neither. HE EVEN CONTRADICTS HIMSELF IN THE NARRATIVE SHOWING THAT he won't rebel when in actuality he does. "Do you desire to rebel against Proper Human History?" "No."

Kreimhild said in Traum before Siegfried's appearance: "If Siegfried was summoned here, he would probably rebel against Proper Human History. I don't want him to, I want the small chance he isn't. I want him to be my enemy before I kill him." (Kriemhild was on the side against Proper Human History) and then she also says "Chaldea didn't bring him" implying that she knows that Chaldea has him.

There is also a mention of every Servant having a different Master in Traum. As of where I am in the story, there is no detail mentioned about Siegfried's Master. When he was first found he was deep in a prison, stating "I was almost expecting to be put in an eternal slumber"

Then there is a twist that Traum actually takes place in Nevada, 2019 in Area 51. The Master behind it all is a Test Subject E. This may just further reinforce the theory.

Kriemhild's line to Siegfried after beating Traum is as follows: "Gyah! Apologies. I just lost my composure. You...I mean, Lord Siegfried. No, I didn't mind. You approaching me was all according to plan... A calculated move on my part. It was all for revenge. Why the defeated look!? Cut it out, you nincompoop! And Master! Don't just stand back there and nod! Do something about this!!!" Siegfried has no new lines after beating Traum.

The Siegfried stated was essentially a fake one, which retained his personality (hence Mash’s comment about his seriousness) and how his abilities are consistent to what is established (being able to endure a B+ rank attack is indeed consistent with his Noble Phantasm Armor of Fafnir does in Fate). However, his memories were wiped and his internal values changed significantly. Essentially, he behaves exactly how Kriemhild desires, it’s as though he was programmed to do so. If this theory was true it would explain the title of the Lostbelt being “Traum” how it is German for “dream” and how it’s basically a manifestation of her desires. Considering Siegfried and Kriemhild being the only German Servants this only makes the meaning more plausible. Why wasn’t this brought up in the plot? Why didn’t Sherlock Holmes catch this? They had little time together, and the times of Siegfried behaving most suspiciously was kept hidden from Holmes.

[ryogai]

Never did Nix expect the Singularity to end the way it did. To discover Area 51 and what waited within. It honestly felt like one big blur and her attempt to at least give the being a proper burial didn't work either.. It was nothing short of luck and a blessing that they all made it back to the Storm Border at all. Though the surprises just couldn't stop there could it?

Moriarty left behind a video for them, sharing what else he knew. Of course he had to take digs, claiming he had no faith in her abilities to see this all through. Made her wish she could punch him in the face, this time without holding back. Why were people constantly making little of her accomplishments and abilities? Was it because she refused to act like a cold-hearted mage like others had been? And she didn't hear much support against his words, save from Mash..

So after hearing the new plan from Sion, Nix decided to leave the Command Room without a word. She needed to clear her head and handle a personal matter. The silverette went into the Simulation Room, a black case in hand, and sighed in relief at the silence around her. It wouldn't last long as a violin was brought out of the case, held at the ready.. Nix played a melody she felt the departed detective would've appreciated. This was her final farewell to Sherlock Holmes and a hope that one day he would return to aid them once again.

Realm of the Thanatos Impulse, Traum : Unproven

[switch]

Since Huyan Zhou event is out in EN, curious if you have any thoughts on Moriarty creating an annoying failgirl and then throwing her out for being an annoying failgirl in favor of Yan Qing offscreen (would totally understand if no thoughts whatsoever considering it's one of the few times he's come up post Traum and it's for a joke)

“no thoughts” is correct. i have never felt anything about it other than ‘mild but forgettable befuddlement.’ it’s non-lore. it’s anti-lore. knowing it at all is a waste of brain space and i will forget about it again within hours. it has absolutely no impact on anything. it achieves nothing and has little-to-genuinely zero relevance even to all involved characters, least of all because huyan herself is barely a character as a direct result of this backstory they inexplicably glued her to being so thin and muddled. it was certainly not necessary just to serve her having a chuuni inferiority complex, given the number of other servants they've written with that before or since without retroactively sticking their dicks in a rather tightly concluded singularity, nor does it even especially manage to actually serve that complex well in the first place because of it being a retroactive addition that struggles to find any place or relevance in the writing. it neither manages to add nor even detract anything from moriarty, or huyan, or yan. it’s net-zero writing.

i can’t even begin to speculate why they had the idea to touch shinjuku again to justify the existence of a new fusion servant rather than one of using their other, many pre-existing excuses, which is possibly the only 'interesting' thing about this decision (if interesting = inscrutable), but their mechanism of doing so was “here’s a character who has literally never been referenced nor implied until three months ago who we’re now saying is relevant through retroactively existing offscreen to this already years-concluded singularity.” it doesn’t matter. the entire ‘we’re suddenly telling you this shit happened offscreen years ago without us ever showing nor preemptivey implying it and it’s everyone’s problem now’ thing feels very, painfully post-saltriver era writing. it’s nothing. you could blip this character back out of existence tomorrow and absolutely nothing would change for anyone. not even for huyan. i’m a scrapped shinjuku phantom servant. you’re a scrapped shinjuku phantom servant.

[bi-astolfo]

So mad Traum didn’t have Watson show up. I thought for sure he was the kindly prisoner! I mean it’s a singularity full of heroes who weren’t famous enough to be servants and Sherlock himself was coming. I mean, all the signs were there…

I hope we get a 3-star Watson someday.

[hasarjunadoneanythingwrong]

With most people completing Traum already I feel like everyone just kind of glossed over Roland [REDACTED]ing himself. Which is…kind of the point but still

admittedly with me its a combo of not wanting to post every spoiler under the sun and liking some characters more than others. he was cool though, i did like him

at the same time its a very hard thing to talk about by virtue of what it is bc they kind of made it physically impossible to have literally anyone acknowledge after the singularity so while it was a cool moment going forwards we can't mention it like other defining character moments for other servants like in lb6, 5, 4 so on and so forth. while outside of the story we can...in story they 'technically' cant do that so its an odd position to be in when talking about it bc while it was neat its hard to argue it will affect things moving forwards because we dont even have records of it!

[sassyshin]

The Sherlock and Moriarty confrontation should have been separated from Traum

Moriarty doesnt add a nything to Traum until the end he’s just standing there menacingly to confuse Sherlock and somehow it still works out

The story could have been about the 3 factions war only because then Kriemhild and Siegfried’s reconciliation at the end wouldn’t have felt rushed. She forgave him way too quickly. That needed a bit more of cooking there

Could also have given that gunner lady a proper character. She was there just to shoot people who needed to be shot and then die because the story demanded it. Orleans tier character writing

Anyway still pretty nice as a singularity but it’s 2 stories in one and would have worked out better as such