#Xanatos du Crion

[phoenixyfriend]

ONLY ONE IS CANON. PLEASE READ THE QUESTION.

* For the purposes of this poll, both Legends and Disney qualify as canon.

** Eminent domain

Don't give away the answer before the poll ends! I'll reblog with an explanation once it's done.

"Why the big red--" I've already had five people vote in the wrong direction.

[bubblew0lf1]

I'm always down for good brothers Xanatos and Feemor. One of my favorite things.

(I took some liberties with Feemors and Xanatos's designs but anyways)

[padawansuggest]

Jedi Chat

Qui-Gon: WE NEED TO HAVE A LINEAGE MEETING!!!!

Dooku: Why? Did you upset another queen?

Qui-Gon: No!

Rael: He’s probably got one pregnant tho I’ve been waiting for him to bring me a niece or nephew for years.

Komari: Can we make this fast, I’m trying to bathe Xanatos’s spawn.

Xanatos: IM IN A MEETING I DONT HAVE TIME TO TRY AND PUT ANGRY FORCE SENSITIVE BABIES IN A TUB

Xanatos: THANK YOU FOR BABYSITTING KOKO

Komari: Yeah, whatever.

Qui-Gon: I am having a crisis here!!!

Dooku: *sigh* What’s wrong this time, Qui-Gon?

Qui-Gon: OBI WAN HAS A BOYFRIEND!!!!

Xanatos: wtf

Komari: but he’s only like two years old??????? He’s an infant??? He’s still in the womb this isn’t allowed????

Dooku: He’s fifteen, padawan, he can have a boyfriend if he wants.

Qui-Gon: NO HE CANNOT!!! He’s my baby!!

Rael: lmaoooo who’s the bf?

Qui-Gon: Quinlan Vos.

Dooku: nvm, you are right to panic. Si just got a vision of their first child and he’s a menace. All their worst in one baby. Wait… Si just said that’s just their first baby and they won’t be born for at least 5 years. Worst of luck to you all.

Qui-Gon: NO YOURE SUPPOSED TO REASSURE ME MASTER!!!

Dooku: Can’t. Bringing my husband to the healers he said that vision hurt.

Rael: Awww, it’ll be okay, Qui, Obi-Wan has at least five more years before he’s thrust into parenthood.

Qui-Gon: this meeting has been so unhelpful I hate you all.

Komari: listen, it might be a bit early to say this. But. I’m not free to babysit that weekend. This applies to all of them.

Xanatos: that’s fair. Komari is my babysitter, I’m the one with blackmail on her.

Komari: :/

[fanfic-obsessed]

No Memories, Just Vibes

There is a part of the Jedi Apprentice series that has sparked two different ideas, of which this is the first. 

Early in one of the books, before Obi Wan is taken as a padawan, Qui Gon Jinn witnesses a duel between him and another initiate. Qui Gon perceives that these two pre teens (if I remember correctly, Obi Wan is a few weeks away from turning 13 and Bruck Chun was a few months to a year younger) are too angry and tells Obi Wan that he is destined to fall, that training Obi Wan would be a waste of time. 

As traumatizing as this speech is, when we take into account Obi Wan’s entire story it is also, objectively, the single most hilarious thing that Qui Gon Jinn could say to Obi Wan Kenobi. 

From this Two ideas were born. 

IDEA 1

The first is that as soon as Qui Gon tell Obi Wan that he is destined to fall, the Force drops post Death Star Qui Gon into current time Qui Gon’s head. Except there are no memories, just vibes.  So between one moment and the next Qui Gon goes from ‘I will not teach you. Get away from me’ to ‘this is my baby padawan, my little boy! Isn’t he precious?’.

And the Masters watching, particularly those responsible for assigning the Master/Padawan pairs, go ‘we were going to let you take the baby, until just now. Now we need do a psych eval’

And Obi Wan (twelve years old) is a mix of emotions that he is not sure there is a word for.  Ten minutes ago he was hopeful that Qui Gon Jinn would take him as a padawan. Three minutes ago the same master shattered that hope and left him devastated. Now the Master who devastated him is now hugging him and babbling about a padawan braid and how Obi Wan is his son.

Nothing makes sense.

Eventually, after innumerable medical and psychological tests, Qui Gon is allowed to take Obi Wan as a Padawan. At some point, during the evaluations, Qui Gon comes to two ‘realizations’ (based on nothing but vibes). The first is that he decides that Obi Wan must be the chosen one, but Qui Gon cannot tell anyone, believing that Qui Gon would not be allowed to teach him (left over vibes from the High council not letting him take Anakin as a Padawan) and to not put excess pressure on the baby. He also decides that Obi Wan’s goodness (the vibe that Obi Wan is incapable of falling) is just what is needed to bring Xanatos back to the light. 

It should be noted that Qui Gon communicates this plan poorly to Obi Wan, who perceives that Qui Gon took him on to be bait for Qui Gon’s fallen former padawan.  Obi Wan, though lacking in much of the trauma that we associate with him, is fairly fatalistic and just shrugs, thinking ‘well, this might as well happen’.

As soon as Qui Gon is released from medical, he takes himself and his shiny new padawan haring across the galaxy looking for Xanatos.  It takes long enough to find him that Feemor hears about what is going on and, out of concern for the child involved, goes to find them. When he arrives Qui Gon is waving Obi Wan at Xanatos going ‘I got you a baby brother.’

Feemor, somehow both too young and too old for this shit, goes ‘For Kriffs sake, Qui Gon’ and briefly steals Obi Wan. 

At some point Obi Wan and Xanatos bond enough that the next time that Xanatos tells Qui Gon that Xan is going to kill him, Obi Wan pipes up saying that Qui Gon was the only master ho would take him and Obi wan really wants to be a Jedi.

Xanatos now has a new mission, to find a new Master for his little brother, so he can go back to trying to murder Qui Gon. (For handwavy reasons, we’ll call it the repudiation, Feemor is not allowed to take Obi Wan as a Padawan-Xanaots asked). 

So now we have the weirdest chase in history. Qui Gon is vibing and chasing Xanatos. Xantos is leading Qui Gon on a chase and looking for another Jedi Master without getting skewered (because of the darksider thing). Obi Wan is being dragged along with Qui Gon, hoping that he gets to learn something about being a jedi before he is killed? He is not even sure. Feemor is following Qui Gon and Obi Wan, occasionally confiscating Obi Wan, because he is not sure anyone should be exposed to this much Qui Gon over any length of time. 

They are also utterly ignoring both the senate and the Jedi council. Well Feemor and Qui Gon are ignoring the Jedi Council and the Senate. Xanatos, since he is not part of the Jedi Order any longer, is not bound to either.  Obi Wan is actually filling out the required reports to the best of his abilities but the information boils down to ‘We continue to ignore the assigned mission, I am thirteen (having had a birthday in the interim) and cannot change that. Feemor is quite kind when he abducts me.’

You may or may not have guessed but this clusterfuck lands on Galidraan.  Just before the fighting between Jango Fett’s True Mandalorians and Dooku’s Jedi is due to erupt.  Qui Gon wanders through the tense standoff, stops and with no context whatsoever goes ‘Oh, everyone here is being tricked’. With him is thirteen year old Obi Wan, a tiny child.  Xanatos, who beat them to the planet by about an hour strides dramatically as fuck from the other side of the potential battlefield shouting out ‘Qui Gon Jinn, you ass…’ before clocking the Jedi and going ‘Jedi’.

Feemor also lands and exits his ship from yet another direction, already looking like he had a headache, going ‘Qui Gon, what he Kriff’. 

Now the tense standoff between the Madalorians and the Jedi is derailed as everyone involved goes from violent rage to baffled rage. Also everyone recognizes that there is now a kid on the battlefield and no one wants to be the one to fight a tiny child. This does eventually defuse things enough that contacts can be exchanged and everyone gets to realize that the governor is the asshole.

Qui Gon refuses to elaborate (and frankly is unable to elaborate, he has no information only vibes) on the ‘Everyone is being tricked’ thing. Or what he meant when he wandered up to Jango Fett, peered at him, and told him ‘You’re not the right one, but I won’t hold it against you’ (what Qui Gon means, even if he doesn’t realize it, is that Jango is not Cody).  At some point or another during the time that they are figuring this out, everyone in the combined party of Jedi/Darksiders/Mandalorians/Other says ‘For Kriffs sake, Qui Gon’ (This includes two Deathwatch prisoners captured during the campaign).

Throughout this Xanatos keeps trying to corner other Jedi to get them to take on Obi Wan, except he is also not great at communicating his intentions, so it is perceived that he is trying to get rid of Obi Wan so that he can have Qui Gon to himself.  No one is willing to question any further, though most are a little freaked out. 

IDEA 2

The second idea is not quite as detailed. It’s a Read/Watch the series.  Again we start from Qui Gon telling Obi Wan that he is destined to fall. The Force pulls everyone (initiates, knights, Masters, and the Council members) in the area outside of time where they watch the Movies and shows (Starting with TPM and watching in chronological Order: The prequels, The Clone Wars, Kenobi, the OT) with a focus on Obi Wan Kenobi.  

So everyone gets to go ‘Oh, Obi Wan is actually awesome’. Except of course for Obi Wan, who nearly has a breakdown believing that this is proof that he should not be a Jedi knight (somehow convinced that the Purge/Order 66 is actually his own fault). 

So now Obi Wan has a plethora of Masters who want to train him (including Qui Gon, who again believes that Obi Wan must be the Chosen One) , additional trauma of survivor's guilt before the events that he survived, and a shiny new appointment with the mind healers. He also has the admiration of the initiates that had previously bullied him. 

The Jedi council is able to piece together enough information on the Sith to try and change things, with varying results.

[deniigi]

—-

“Good morning, Commander.”

Cody looks up to see that General Jinn is awake and has somehow procured a cup of caf at this absurd hour. He stands there with his long hair unbraided and hanging down his shoulder and back. Whisps of steam rise from the lip of his mug and dissolve into the lightening sky.

“Sir,” Cody greets.

“Stop. Stop. Stop,” General Kenobi hisses through the tent walls behind him.

“Xanatos,” General Jinn says sternly, “Leave him be.”

The tent shakes and Cody is forced out of the way by the regal unfolding of Knight Crion’s long body. The man tosses his thick, black hair over his shoulder and straightens his matching tabards. He sniffs and thumbs discreetly at his lip, where a smear of blood has appeared since Cody first saw him.

General Jinn’s brow flattens. The General himself keeps it that way by throwing back the tent flap and shoving Knight Crion forward with two hands in the center of his back. Knight Crion staggers a step and a half forwards.

The General seethes at him when Crion whips around with dawn’s early light glinting in his eyes.

“O’Ben,” General Jinn drawls. “Leave it.”

If the General were biologically capable of growling, he would be. Cody hunts for his boots faster.

“O’Ben, I said to leave it. Xana, he’s younger. Be gentle.”

——

Part of an AU where Obi-Wan grows up with his whole lineage present and suffers through them during the clone wars.

Full fic here: burn your draft card, we’re going to hell

[jedi-starbird]

Disaster Lineage Timeline and Ages

Here is a Disaster Lineage timeline that actually makes sense and includes all members, plus their relative ages for each event. For all my fic writers who also get a headache trying to figure them out.

I tried my best to keep the relative ages the same as what Canon or Legends gives us with 2 exceptions (Xanatos and Komari). So while the dates may not be canon accurate for becoming a padawan or Knighting, their ages are. The grey cells mark how old the person was when they died.

I've given permission for this to be on the SW Reference wiki. Here!

Enjoy and hope you have fun with it! Detailed explanations for birth-date changes below the cut!

Buckle in Folks.

OK, so Dooku must be aged up minimum 5 years in order to train Rael before Qui-Gon and so Qui-Gon can train Feemor and Xanatos before Obi-Wan. Rael has to be at least 10 years older than Qui-Gon so that he can be knighted when Qui-Gon is padawan age. Canon has Dooku take on Rael at 22 so I kept that cause it's funny and that means Dooku has to be older than his canon birthday of 102BBY to fit both in.

Neither of Qui-Gon's birthdays work if you want to fit the other lineage members in. This is not at all annoying. 80BBY(canon) has him too young to train both Feemor and Xanatos before Obi-Wan and 92BBY(legends) has him being 17 when he becomes a padawan if Dooku trains Rael before him. 86BBY is my magical average that just barely works. I use fanon that Qui-Gon takes over Feemor's training cause it's the only way to fit him in without making Qui-Gon too old, thus domino-affecting Rael and Dooku.

Does this mean the 4 of them are all knighted between ages 21-23? Yes? Is that insane? Yes, but alas it's the only way I could make the timeline work.

Komari is the only birth-date I've moved for non-math reasons, her actual birthday is 62BBY, same as Nim, but that makes her 18 at Galidraan and I felt that was too young personally. (She kills 20 Mandos singlehandedly there. yeah. wtf)

Xanatos's birthday and death date are the same but I made him older when he fell because Legends has him as 16 and that really feels too young, especially since he was considered for the goddamn Knight Trials when he fell and we know Anakin was considered exceptionally young when he was knighted at 19. It makes for some nice parallels between them. Plus all the shit Xanatos gets up to after he runs off, he should be a little older to pull it off.

[im-da-bronx]

This is how Qui-Gon's relationships with his padawans went, right?

[roachsauce]

i love feemors shaved head look but this scenario is so funny to me

bonus:

[modernepimetheus]

Disaster lineage's favorite other members (it makes sense I swear)

Yoda: Qui-gon. They smoke weed and talk about the living force together.

Dooku: Obi-wan. That's his grandson. He's so proud of him.

Rael: Nim. He's biased. After she died, he bonded with Anakin over mostly legal podracing

Qui-gon: He says he doesn't have favorites, but it's definitely Xanatos(pre betrayal) after that, it's Ahsoka. She's chill.

Nim: If she were alive, I think Ahsoka would be her favorite

Feemor: Obi-wan. He loves his baby brother

Xanatos: Hates everyone. Bitch.

Obi-wan: Actually doesn't have a favorite, but it's between Anakin and Ahsoka

Anakin: It's a close tie between Ahsoka and Obi-wan

Ahsoka: Anakin. He's her big brother/father figure

Bonus!

Asajj: Ahsoka.

[oceankat8]

OKAY so I may have been a Bit distracted but here's my Xanatos design that I am sticking with because he also doesn't have a consistent design. So here he is I had maybe a bit too much fun with him. Who am I making a character sheet for next? I don't know. Probably another random SW character @blackkatmagic introduces me to and makes me fall in love with. Definitely not Feemor.

[phoenixyfriend]

The fact that Xanatos doesn't canonically have a last name and "du Crion" is just. It's fanon. It's very popular, the same level of fanon as "Yan" Dooku but.

Xanatos doesn't have a last name. Crion is just his dad's name, and we all made them a little French for the flair of it. Wild.

[bubblew0lf1]

Found this ancient sketch from last year, when I was thinking about a Star Wars modern (can it be called modern? or our universe??) AU, where Obi-wan, Xanatos, and Feemor are all adopted by Qui-Gon and Tahl

Sorry for the inactivity again btw school is picking up and I have to finish my application

[padawansuggest]

Xanatos: Hey kid, I hear you know basically nothing about the force, huh?

Anakin: Basically yeah.

Xanatos: Great. I got some awesome lies I wanna test out on kids before my own get old enough to figure shit out for themselves.

Anakin: …should you be talking to me?

Obi-Wan: *crashing out of a room with a panicked look and an exasperated Qui-Gon behind him* Absolutely fucking not, stay away from my kid please, Xan!

Qui-Gon: *trying to lead Xanatos away* Come on, kid, I think your mind healers said you missed a meeting.

Obi-Wan: *bodily picking up Anakin to carry him off* Anakin, we don’t talk to strangers without master there, okay?

Anakin: idk that guy sounded fun :/

Obi-Wan: I said the same thing about him when I was your age. Trust me, he’s not.

[fanfic-obsessed]

Force Osik? ...Force Osik

Let’s take a walk with some Force Shit. Obi Wan would like it known that we may have wandered from Force Shit into Force Bullshit, and would like a refund on this entire time period. 

…Frankly that’s fair. 

We are at some random point mid war, the Force, for reasons that are inscrutable to the mortals around, decides to bring someone back from the dead. Right to the bridge of the Negotiator, while they are somewhere in the outer rim.  This is a fairly standard trope at this point, usually binging back Qui Gon Jinn.  But here we take a left instead of the third right.  The person brought back is Xanatos, pre fall (his exact age will be discussed below). 

Now for those of you who do not know, Xanatos is from the Apprentice series. He was Qui Gon’s second Padawan who fell before Xanatos could be knighted.  The fall caused some significant trauma for Qui Gon, leading to his initial rejection of Obi Wan. Xanatos was also the first person to enslave Obi Wan, and is the source of about a solid third Obi Wan’s trauma before the age of 15ish (when Xanatos committed suicide). What’s more this pre fall Xanatos either knows, or is told, that Obi Wan was also a Padawan of Qui Gon; this version of Xanatos is absolutely ecstatic that Obi Wan is his ‘little brother’ and wants to be where Obi Wan is at all times. 

NOTE: I think it would be both funnier and 100% more baffling for Obi Wan if Xanatos had already known that Obi Wan would someday be Qui Gon’s next Padawan. Like a young Padawan Xanatos saw little Obi Wan (There is a 9 year age difference between them) in the creche and had said that the toddler Obi wan would be his little brother one day. It would also play really well into the surety the fallen Xanatos had that Obi Wan as Qui Gon’s padawan on Bandomeer, even when he wasn’t. 

This is where we should discuss Xantos’s age, for I am of two minds. Truly the options only change the flavor of Obi Wan��s trauma. 

-Option 1: Xanatos is from just before the mission where he Fell, so he would be a young adult.  He looks almost exactly like the Xanatos from Obi Wan’s memories, sans the eyes and height (given that in Obi Wan’s memories Xanatos towered over him). So Obi Wan is constantly being haunted by the trauma caused by the Fallen Xanatos and trying not to lay that trauma at the feet of his virtual twin, who is blameless. Also Obi Wan has no true idea of what caused Xanatos to fall, or when it happened save that Xanatos looked very similar to the non fallen version that stands before him. So Obi Wan is constantly beset by the anxiety that comes from the back and forth of ‘If I reject him, will he fall?’ and ‘If I am too permissive for his behavior will he fall?’ and ‘what if he falls while I am not there and hurts someone’.  Also deeply traumatic flashbacks to the Fallen Xanatos calling him ‘Little Brother’

-Option 2: Xanatos is an early teen (13 or 14 years old), younger than Ahsoka. He still adores Obi Wan and does not set off the visual issues that the older version does.  However, his force presence is still similar enough to the fallen Xanatos that it sets off Obi Wan’s trauma, and we multiply it by the guilt of Obi Wan spending much of his time trying not to freak out and punch a 13 year old in the face. 

With either option we have an Obi Wan that spends the entire trip back to Coruscant trying not to make his trauma everyone else's problem. Also he had thought that he had dealt with this trauma over a decade before. He cannot bring himself to tell anyone who Xantos was to him. When asked by Anakin (with Xanatos right there) why Anakin did not know about Xanatos, Obi Wan is barely able to choke out a ‘he died’.  The entirety of the 212th can tell Obi Wan is desperately uncomfortable around Xanatos and trying to hide it. They are also torn because Xanatos clearly adores Obi Wan, so they might get a Padawan Commander (and if we go with option 2, is 13 an adorable) but on the other hand Obi Wan’s reaction is concerning them. 

Anakin vacillates between pouting that Obi Wan is ‘keeping secrets’ (read has any part of his that Anakin does not have exclusive knowledge of and rights to) and hovering protectively around Obi Wan (read Anakin’s Master) hissing at Xanatos like a feral cat. 

Cody spends more than a few nights assigning a small group of clones to distract Xanatos and Anakin. Then he holds Obi Wan, so the general feels safe enough to sleep.  Even if that sleep is interrupted by nightmares that give Cody more of a glimpse than anyone else into Obi Wan’s issue with Xanatos. 

When the council received the report of what had happened, a few of the members looked at each other. Not all of the members knew what had happened with Xanatos (some had not been members of the council at the time, were too new to be fully read in, or were on their own missions) but the ones that did just looked at each other going ‘Fuck, Kenobi’s therapist is going to kill us all’. 

On Coruscant Obi Wan’s Therapist, very decidedly non force sensitive (to help combat the burnout), woke from a dead sleep when Xanatos appeared and said to herself, ‘why do I feel like my hard work has been taken out to an alley and shot’

The Negotiator gets to Coruscant without a major incident or Obi Wan having a complete breakdown. Obi Wan is still the only one who knows why he is so twitchy with Xanatos (Anakin thinks he knows why Obi Wan is twitchy -guilt for keeping secrets- but is not in any way correct. Cody and other members of the 212th realize that his odd behavior is directly related to Xanatos but not the specifics). Obi Wan leads the Xanatos, along with various added people including Cody, anakin, Rex, Ahsoka, and three of the shinies that had been assigned to Xanatos down to the council chamber. As soon as Xanatos is in front of the council Obi Wan is like ‘I gotta…’ and the council, particularly those who are in the know about exactly what Obi Wan is going through, go ‘No, that’s fair. Go. Alexis (the therapist) is already waiting for you.’ (As soon as it was a reasonable hour right after Xanatos appeared, Plo Koon and MAce Windu had reached out to Alexis the Therapist-They had previously been given by Obi Wan to do so if needed- and explained hat they knew -Xanatos, of Tauma fame, had returned from before he went evil. To Obi Wan specifically. Alexis the Therapist just sighed.)

And Obi Wan  just booked it out of the temple toward his therapist to deal with things he had thought he had already dealt with, but were brought back up by the return of one of his childhood nightmares.  Which is pulling all of the other strings of trauma.

While Obi Wan is having the breakdown that has been scheduled for over a decade, the rest of the council is looking at Xanatos, trying to figure out what to do with him. The only people who knew the specifics of Xanatos original fall are all dead (being the original Xanatos and Qui Gon Jinn). Feemor is brought in to explain what they do know (Xanatos falling, Qui Gon’s repudiation  of both of his padawans at the time, the official reports on Bandomeer- Feemor assumes that there is a minimum of 20% more trauma for Obi Wan then is stated in the report, as he is familiar with Qui Gon’s minimalist approach to report writing, and is not shy about sharing this opinion-, the bombing of the temple, the assassination attempt, the death of an initiate, and finally Xanatos’s own suicide) because Feemor is one of the last Jedi who Xanatos would know. 

Xanatos is abjectly horrified by what has happened. Also more than a little freaked out Obi Wan was able to spend over a week, the travel time from where the Negotiator had been to Coruscant, in Xanatos’s near constant presence and not show any of this as more than a little discomfort.  After he settles in he starts researching Stewjoni psychology to make sure that Obi Wan was not doing himself unnecessary harm (He was not, what happened was more akin to walking on a broken leg because there is no other way to get through, in that it did damage, but was a necessity for survival). Even though Xanatos, no matter the age, goes on the complete his training under a different lineage, is still absolutely insistent that Obi Wan is his little brother (even finding different word that mean the same thing when he realized that there is some issue connected to those words specifically).

Dooku hears that Xanatos has returned and reaches out, trying to get at least one of his lineage on his side. This incidentally is how they capture Dooku, who acts in haste and does not take the same level of precaution that he normally does in covering his tracks. 

The Jedi in general accept that Xanatos is permanently back sometime around the two month mark.  He goes on to Shadow training. 

A consequence of Dooku being caught was that the war started being won by the Republic (In this Dooku was the only direct connection between the Separatists and Palpatine, so with Dooku captured early Palpatine was no longer able to run both sides and it as too early for him to start his empire). Palpatine found that his various contingencies continued to fall apart without any interference from our heroes.

One of the more severe of which was an unscheduled attack on Naboo’s Theed while he was there. The attack damaged Palpatine’s vocal chords, leaving him mute for two months and changing his voice permanently in a way that could not be correct (thus making him unable to enact Order 66, as everything was tied to a voice print match). 

[deniigi]

Prequel to the burn your draft card, we’re going to hell AU.

I.e. How Qui-Gon lived and got back up onto his feet.

[bolithesenate]

all of Dooku's emo apprentices daughters (and bonus Xanatos because in his heart of hearts he too is an emo girlie)