#alexander marcellus

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Hi Everyone!! Here is my main 7 cast for my Blossom Love AU. The Main 7 cast are Andrea (the one with the mask cutie mark), Zelda (the one with the lighting bolt cutie mark), Alexander (the one with the paw print in the heart cutie mark), Marcellus (the one with the cookie cutie mark), Big Sugar (the one with the apple slice on a muffin cutie mark), Phoebe (the one with the heart and four pointed star with wings cutie mark) and Cinnamon Sugar (the earth pony with the purple bow as I couldn't give her a cutie mark due to Phoebe's hair being in the way LOL). (Parents of these next gens will be mentioned in a comment below this post). Andrea is somewhat sweet and kind when she wants to be, but if you mess with her friends and family, she will not hesitate to beat your ass. Andrea's love for wrestling and having a job as a pro wrestler is how she got her cutie mark. Zelda is super nice and friendly as well as a world renowned hero in Equestria but Zelda never let's the fame and praise get to his head and keeps a low and not egotistical image about himself both on and off camera. Zelda was born with super fast flight and his wings glow bright when he's reached top speeds. Although, he sometimes goes too fast at times and tries his hardest to find safe and soft places to crash into to slow himself down. He got his cutie mark after discovering that he can fly at really fast speeds that were never achieved by any other pegasus and started using his flight powers to help others. Alexander is super sweet and loves taking care of animals just like his mother and he's also dating Phoebe. Alexander got his cutie mark after he discovered his love for animals. Marcellus is quite the gentleman and loves to treat others with the respect that they deserve. He's also quite soft spoken and doesn't like being the center of attention much but he is very social and does like to hangout with his friends quite often. He got his cutie mark after discovering that he's an amazing baker and loves to bake treats for everyone. Big Sugar is very kind and super honest. He's also very hard working and takes pride working with his family at Sweet Apple Acres. Big Sugar got his cutie mark after finding out that he loves to make apple themed treats and started selling them to help out the apple family. Phoebe is sweet, polite and soft-spoken. She's also the princess of Ithersia since her parents, (Samurai Jack and Itward), were given the throne after saving Ithersia from Remor and King Sombra. Phoebe got her cutie mark after saving some citizens from evil kamalas. She became an alicorn after discovering her true potential and being an amazing role model to others. Cinnamon Sugar is very hyper almost all the time. She's also super good at baking, telling jokes and all around party planning. She got her cutie mark after finding out that she loves party planning and wants to follow in her father's hoofsteps and become the next big party planner in all of Equestria. Credit goes to chaostrical for the base I used and to Juicy Beast, COMIXGUM, Genndy Tartakovsky, Cartoon Network, Killmonday Games, ConcernedApe, Sad Panda Studios, Lauren Faust and Hasbro for creating Burrito Bison:Launcha Libre, The Heroic AU (Villainous AU), Samurai Jack, Fran Bow, Stardew Valley, Crush Crush and My Little Pony:Friendship Is Magic as well as creating the parents of my main 7 next gens and the next gen character Big Sugar too as well as the locations, Equestria and Sweet Apple Acres as well. I only take credit for my next gens, art, ships, stories and the Blossom Love AU. I hope you guys like this!!!

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"𝙄𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙩𝙞𝙩𝙡𝙚 𝙤𝙧 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙬𝙚𝙖𝙡𝙩𝙝 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙖𝙙𝙮. 𝙒𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙥𝙤𝙞𝙣𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙗𝙚𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙧𝙞𝙘𝙝 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙥𝙧𝙚𝙩𝙩𝙮 𝙞𝙛 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙗𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙣 𝙞𝙨 𝙤𝙛 𝙣𝙤 𝙪𝙨𝙚?"

BASICS

Name: Eleanor Marie Thorne

Birthday: 2nd of March, 1881

Zodiac sign: Taurus

Weight: 58kg

Height: 1.63m

Religion: Non-religious

Eye colour: Brown

Hair colour: Light brown

Faceclaim: Dominique Devenport

FAMILY 

Mother: Dasha Thorne, neé Seymour

Pureblood woman, sister of Albert Seymour, was bred to find a suitable match and was commanded to marry the rake Elijah Thorne. Smart, witty, observant and a Slytherin alumni, it didn't however save her from a miserable marriage, blackmailing him in order to do their duty and be done with it. She ended up raising the twins herself.

Father: Elijah Thorne

A rake, irresponsible, neglectful and a useless drunk, he was always doing drugs and in brothels rather than alone with his young and beautiful wife. Who ended up blackmailing him in order to conceive at least one child and be done with it. The marriage worked well until an American opportunist used a love potion on it and convinced a whipped Elijah to elope and leave his family for America. He would never return to England or get out of the ship alive.

Other relatives: Marcellus Alexander Thorne, twin brother

Both raised by different tutors, where Marcellus was reserved and flamboyant, Eleanor was calm and with a calmer head on her shoulders. They both had a great affection for one another, and bonded much during their time at Hogwarts. He'd be her biggest support in England during her adult life, and his daughter Enya would often visit her home in France.

Jesse Isaiah Seymour and his sisters, first cousins

Both cousins were within the same age ranges and had similar natures and got on well.

Friends: TBD (open!)

Significant Other: Eris Armand Durand ( @cursed-herbalist )

Eleanor and Eris moved in similar circles, but never interacted properly until she attended his first opera role, and the moment she heard his voice, she fell instantly in love.

They both started courting, and she'd support him and enhance his singing abilities, striving for him to become his better self. Both families approved of the match and soon made a life in Paris. They married and had two children: Knox and Marielle.

PERSONALITY

Overall personality: Eleanor is sweet, smart, gentle but firm, with a good head on her shoulders and a woman of her time, loyal to the end and devout of her loved ones.

Positive traits: Sweet, smart, gentle, loyal and with a good head on her shoulders

Negative traits: Rich girl privileges, nepo baby, selfless

Guilty pleasure: Limericks

HOMETOWN

Thorne Abbey is the ancestral home of the Thornes since the Anglo-Saxon era with its founder, Luxia Thorne, established a powerful castle guarded by walls full of thorny vines and pointy towers that are enchanted to repel bad-meaning visitors and intruders. At first it was Thorne castle, but with time, it was changed to 'abbey' to avoid drawing muggle attention. It's famous for its fierce warriors, draped in velvet, white and black walls, fiery members and astute matriarchs, although it all changed after the French Revolution and the beginning of the Regency Era, with Abel Thorne following the Prince Regent into his extravagant and hedonistic habits. The family would change their ideas again well after Eleanor's time.

BACKSTORY 

Eleanor Marie Thorne was born on a snowy night of March in 1881, alongside her twin brother Marcellus, although they grew up differently, they had loyalty to one another and a sense of siblinghood, although they teased one another plenty.

Just like her mother, she was sorted into Slytherin and was made Prefect and Head Girl, achieving a flawless curriculum, being a quiet and friendly girl, but an overachiever. She was always brought along dinners and reunions with investors and tennants as well as her brother, and co-ran Thorne Abbey after their mother retired until her brother married and had a child of his own. Despite her being away in France, she kept advising her twin brother until they both stepped down as well.

MISC

As a very wealthy untitled lady, she was required to be equal to her titled counterparts, and thus learned the harp, pianoforte, singing and the violin. She was taught to fence, shoot to almost perfection, archery, horseriding and field games. She developed a great love for Parisian and royal fashion, to embroider, recite poems of the best writers from memory, as well as Latin, Greek, German and French.

She was one of the richest bachelorettes of the wizarding world, with nearly 25,000,000 galleons on her dowry alone.

She soon became a philantropist, and spent her fortune on enhancing her husband's branch of the Durand family with lavish portraits, generous donations to important charities, endear herself to the high society and was pen pals with several figures of the wizarding world, among them many Ministers of Magic, socialites, heroes,... anyone who was somebody had received Mrs. Durand's regards.

She was a fashionista through and through, always wearing the best designers, with her gorgeous, luscious and thick brown curls that could've rivalled Empress Sissi's long hair and was a fashion leader, always dressing for the House of Worth. Her great fashion sense would be passed down to her niece Enya and being a fashion icon would be mandatory within the House Thorne.

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More Saints of the Day October 22

St. Pope John Paul II

St. Abercius Marcellus

Sts. Alexander, Heraclins, and Companions

Bl. Alix Le Clercq

St. Alodia

St. Benedict of Macerac

St. Bertharius

St. Donatus of Fiesole

St. Mark

St. Mary Salome

St. Mellon

St. Moderan

St. Nepotian

St. Nunctus

St. Philip

St. Philip of Heraclea

St. Verecundus

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Wives and Daughters of Roman Emperors: Ages at First Marriage

I have only included women whose birth dates and dates of marriage are known within at least 1-2 years, therefore, this is not a comprehensive list.

Livia, wife of Augustus; age 16 when she married Tiberius Claudius Nero in 43 BC

Claudia, wife of Augustus; age 14/15 when she married Augustus in 42 BC

Julia the Elder, daughter of Augustus; age 14 when she married Marcellus in 25 BC

Julia the Younger, daughter of Julia the Elder; age 14 when she married Lucius Aemilius Paullus in 5 BC

Livilla, wife of Gaius Caesar (and later Drusus the Younger); age 12 when she married Gaius Caesar in 1 BC

Agrippina the Elder, daughter of Julia the Elder; age 19 when she married Germanicus in 5 AD

Aemilia Lepida, daughter of Julia the Younger; age 18 when she married Marcus Junius Silanus Torquatus in 13 AD

Julia Livia, wife of Nero Caesar; age 16 when she married Nero in 23 AD

Agrippina the Younger, daughter Agrippina the Elder; age 13 when she married Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus in 28 AD

Julia Livia, daughter of Agrippina the Elder; age 15 when she married Marcus Vinicius in 33 AD

Junia Claudilla, wife of Caligula; age 15 when she married Caligula in 33 AD

Julia Drusilla, daughter of Agripinna the Elder; age 17 when she married Lucius Cassius Longinus in 33 AD

Claudia Antonia, daughter of Claudius; age 13 when she married Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus in 43 AD

Poppaea Sabina, wife of Nero; age 14 when she married Rufrius Crispinus in 44 AD

Claudia Octavia, daughter of Claudius; age 13 when she married Nero in 53 AD

Vibia Sabrina, wife of Hadrian; age 17 when she married Hadrian in 100 AD

Faustina the Younger, wife of Marcus Aurelius; age 14 when she married Marcus in 145 AD

Lucilla, wife of Lucius Verus; age 14-16 when she married Lucius in 164 AD

Bruttia Crispina, wife of Commodus; age 14 when she married Commodus in 178 AD

Vibia Aurelia Sabina, daughter of Marcus Aurelius; age 10 when she married Antistius Burrus in 180 AD

Julia Domna, wife of Septimius Severus; age 17 when she married Septimius in 187 AD

Antonia Gordiana, daughter of Gordian I; age 13 when she married an unnamed senator in 214 AD

Annia Faustina, wife of Elagabalus; age 15 when she married Pomponius Bassus in 216 AD

Sallustia Orbiana, wife of Severus Alexander; age 16 when she married Severus in 225 AD

Tranquillina, wife of Gordian III; age 16 when she married Gordian in 241 AD

Galeria Valeria, daughter of Diocletian; age 27 when she married Galerius in 293 AD

Fausta, daughter of Maximian; age 18 when she married Constantine I in 307 AD

Justina, wife of Magnetius (and later Valentinian I); age 10 when she married Magnetius in 350 AD

Constantia, daughter of Constantius II; age 12 when she married Gratian in 374 AD

The average age at first marriage among these women was 15.

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A Plutarchian Woodcut Wednesday

We’re spending our Woodcut Wednesday with this stunning sixteenth-century edition of Plutarch’s classic Parallel Lives featuring the work of artists Jost Amman and Tobias Stimmer.

The allegory of Fama, otherwise known as Fame or Renown, by Tobias Stimmer opens Plutarch’s Parallel Lives on the title page.  

Various scenes from the life of the legendary Athenian monarch Theseus, including the hunt of the Calydonian boar and the hero throwing Sciron off a cliff edge. Plutarch pairs the Greek Theseus with the Roman Romulus. 

The founding of the city of Rome under Romulus. The murder depicted in the foreground could be Romulus slaying Remus in the dispute over where Rome ought to be built. 

Plutarch (ca. 46-after 120 A.D.) was born under Roman rule in Chaeronea, Boeotia, to a wealthy and established Greek family. Plutarch traveled to Athens in the mid-60s to study a variety of subjects, including medicine, physics, Latin, and philosophy. Though they were technically the conquering rulers, Romans at the time valued their Greek subjects’ culture of learning, and Plutarch was among those invited to tour Italy as a lecturer. Plutarch’s moral and philosophical lessons enjoyed success and formed the basis of his later written works. Parallel Lives was penned towards the end of Plutarch’s life when he had returned to Greece and was serving as a statesman and head priest of Apollo.

The unfortunate demise of the scholar Archimedes at the hands of Marcellus’ forces as they sack Syracuse. Plutarch relates that Marcellus’ greatest regret was the death of the famous mathematician.

Parallel Lives (Gk., Bioi paralleloi) is a moralistic set of biographies that examines the lives of notable Greek men and their Roman counterparts. The biographies are moralistic in the sense that Plutarch did not intend to write historically accurate accounts but rather wanted to draw out the lessons to be learned from the examples, both good and bad, of the lives of famous Greek and Roman individuals. Parallel Lives had a profound influence on readers from Plutarch’s contemporaries in the Roman Empire up through to the Middle Ages and early Renaissance. For example, William Shakespeare drew heavily on Plutarch’s Parallel Lives to write the plays  Coriolanus, Timon of Athens, Antony and Cleopatra, and Julius Caesar. 

Coriolanus and his forces, in the Volscian camp, hear the pleas of his mother, wife, and the women of Rome to stop his attack on the city. Coriolanus relents and the women are later honored with the building of a temple to the goddess Fortuna. 

The edition of Parallel Lives featured in this post was printed by Frankfurt am Main publisher Sigmund Feyerabend (1528-1590) in 1580. The text is the Latin translation of Heidelberg University scholar Wilhelm Xylander (1532-1576), who famously produced the first Latin translation of Marcus Aurelius’ Meditations. The woodcut illustrations are the work of the prolific Swiss-German artist Jost Amman (1539-1591) and Swiss painter Tobias Stimmer (1539-1584). As an interesting sidenote, several of the woodcuts appearing in this edition of Plutarch were recycled from Feyerabend’s 1568 edition of Livy’s History of Rome. 

Battle between two armies, one on horseback and the other on war elephants. This generic illustration is repeated for Plutarch’s Life of Alexander (the Great) and Life of Pyrrhus (of Epirus). The former famously fought against forces that used elephants; the latter notably used them in battle. 

As a change of pace from all the foregoing imagery of bloodshed and gore, we'd like to end with this elaborate woodcut of Aristotle seated at a table of scholars. Aristotle is not among the lives covered in the Bioi paralleloi, but this edition adds a brief biography of the philosopher by Guarino Veronese. 

Images from: Plutarch. Vitae illustrium vivorum Graecorum et Romanorum. Frankfurt am Main: Sigmund Feyerabend, 1580. Catalog record: https://bit.ly/3DUnWhl

[theromaboo]

Guess who was wandering through the drafts looking for gold? I found a little thing I wrote a few months ago after I read Cleopatra's Daughter, a historical fiction novel about Cleopatra Selene.

Unfortunately I was planning to write a lot more about all the historical fiction novels I read about Cleopatra Selene, but I kind of forgot and now it's too late because I read those books quite some time ago and don't remember them well :(

Maybe possibly I'll reread them all and then write about them. Likely not anytime soon, though. But you guys can read what I managed to write! (it's not much)

Spoilers for Cleopatra's Daughter and Cleopatra's Moon.

I finished Cleopatra's Daughter, so it's time to write some stuff I noticed between it and Cleopatra's Moon. Spoilers for both books, some little, some big.

Octavian and Illness

In Cleopatra's Moon, Octavian says that he's sick often but he actually is never sick but he just says he's sick because he's a coward. Also this is something that's mentioned once and never again and it hardly affects anything. I really don't like how this book did that.

Meanwhile in Cleopatra's Daughter, Octavian is actually quite sickly and struggles especially in cold weather. But then it's somewhat treated like a moral failing, though I think that's mostly just what Cleopatra Selene the character thinks about this, not how the viewer is supposed to think about it. I think this book certainly approached this topic with a lot more care than Cleopatra's Moon did.

Alexander Helios and Homosexuality

(yeah I'm going to be using anachronistic wording here, but this is about two historical fiction novels written less than 20 years ago by authors with modern ideas of sexuality, so I think using modern language makes the most sense in this context)

In both books, Alexander Helios is a major character with some sort of connection to homosexuality.

It's honestly really funny in Cleopatra's Moon. So basically, Cleopatra Selene notices Alexander Helios kissing or something with a blond haired person, but it's really unclear who the blond haired person is; she didn’t get a good look. Then she hears a masculine laugh. So she immediately assumes it's Marcellus. That masculine laugh could've belonged to anyone, Alexander Helios, for example, but Cleopatra Selene hears a masculine laugh and sees blond hair so her brother's lover has to be Marcellus. And she's so supportive about this, honestly. She was like "Good for them. Good for them. Wonder what Octavian will think about it."

She spends a bunch of time giggling just imagining Octavian's golden boy as the lover of Alexander Helios of all people.

Then Marcellus disrespects her, so she's like "How dare you disrespect your lover’s sister!"

And he's like "I... don't understand?"

And she's like "Stop pretending you don't know! I saw you in the gardens with him. How long have you and my brother been together?"

And he's like "Uh..... did you think that Alexander and I are lovers?"

And she got confused, and said "Yeah? I saw you today! I saw your blond hair!"

And he was like "Julia and both Marcellas have blond hair. What made you think it was me?"

And then she thought about it for a moment. She thought "Hmmm. Julia is a jerk and both Marcellas are boring. If my brother had any taste, it could only have been Marcellus!"

And then she said "Well I also heard a masculine laugh!"

And Marcellus said "Your brother is... you know, masculine too. Also, I spent the entire day with Caesar, not Alexander."

And she was like "Then who was it!?"

And he was like "I don't know and I don't care. What I do care about is how quickly you assumed it was me."

And then she was like "What!?? Is Alexander not good enough for you? I'm offended for him!"

And then I don't really want to spoil anything more. Anyway, this is terribly terribly funny. Alexander never canonically did anything homosexual in this book. However, the one mention of homosexuality in this book concerns him.

Meanwhile, in Cleopatra's Daughter, Alexander is canonically not straight. Judging by the writing, he is almost certainly gay. The book kept foreshadowing it from the very beginning. I swear the writing of this book has the subtlety of a sledgehammer. The foreshadowing was so heavy-handed, it was awkward.

Anyway, Alexander meets this one dude called Lucius and they instantly become lovers. And Cleopatra Selene is not happy about it in the slightest. She's honestly quite homophobic throughout the entire book.

Anyway, one night, Alexander went to Lucius' room. Then they both got stabbed. So I think the author heard about Bury Your Gays and took it as writing advice. One of them survived, though.

So, yeah.

Livia and Octavia

In Cleopatra's Moon for most of the book, the reader is forced to assume that Livia is super evil the personification of evil she hates everyone she poisons people every day she never did anything good in her life meanwhile Octavia is just kind of creepy. But then, there's a big twist and it turns out Livia just looks evil but she didn't actually do anything, and Octavia was the true villain.

Listen, it made me happy to see that Livia wasn't the villain, but not at the expense of Octavia!

Meanwhile, in Cleopatra's Daughter, Livia is evil and Octavia is a complete angel.

Using a Greeker version of someone's name

I swear that these books just want to feel educated or good about themselves in some way, so they use a Greeker form of one name so they can feel fancy.

In Cleopatra's Moon, Alexander Helios is called Alexandros.

In Cleopatra's Daughter, Cleopatra is spelled Kleopatra. Cleopatra Selene gets annoyed when Cleopatra is spelled with a C instead of a K.

[thatnerdyqueer]

Has anyone else noticed the Alexander Hamilton and Hamlet parallels???? Cuz I have, and I'm loving them.

People talk about Hamilton's story being a bit macbeth-y but I haven't really heard people talk about how close it is to Hamlet. Proof:

I imagine death so much it feels more like a memory - literally everything that Hamlet says

I couldn't seem to die - oh, that this too, too solid flesh would melt

There is no beat, no melody - The rest is silence

Who lives who dies who tells your story - in this harsh world draw thy breath in pain to tell my story

Rise up, I'm not throwing away my shot, etc - We defy augury

It's quiet uptown - literally all of Hamlets grief throughout the whole thing, it's so similar

Hamilton debating whether or not to kill burr - Hamlet debating whether or not to kill Claudius

Wait for it, nonstop, my shot - aLL of his speeches about death

Also, A.Ham????? it's almost as if he's trYing to draw attention to similarities here

not to mention John Laurens basically being Horatio, plus Lafayette, Hercules, Jefferson, and maddison being rosencrantz and guildenstern, barnardo, Marcellus, laertes, etc. and Washington being a pollonius-ish figure and Eliza is Ophelia and horatio at the same time????

There's so much if you go through them all, and listing them would take ages. Part of this is just because they are such raw, human stories that you could apply most of the characters and themes to any story of similar caliber and material, and the thing that makes them similar is that they are the themes of the common or garden joe put to well-thought-out poetry (which basically means that no matter who you are, it slaps) but. Yeah.

[thepastisalreadywritten]

SAINT OF THE DAY (February 13)

Catherine was born Alessandra Lucrezia Romola de Ricci on 23 April 1522 in Florence, Italy.

Having lost her mother in her infancy, her father placed her in the Convent of Monticelli, near the gates of Florence, where her aunt, Louisa de Ricci, was a nun when she was between the age of six and seven.

To her, the place was a paradise, but after some years, her father took her home.

Attracted to the religious life, and with the consent of her father, she received the religious veil in the convent of Dominicanesses at Prat, in Tuscany, in the year 1535 at fourteen years of age.

For two years, she suffered inexpressible pains under a complication of violent distempers, which remedies only seemed to increase.

She sanctified those sufferings by the interior disposition with which she bore them and which she nourished by assiduous meditation on the passion of Christ.

The victory over herself and purgation of her affections were completed by a perfect spirit of prayer; for by the union of her soul with God and the establishment of the absolute reign of his love in her heart, she was dead to and disengaged from all earthly things.

When she was young, she was first chosen as mistress of the novices, then sub-prioress and, in the twenty-fifth year of her age, was appointed as perpetual prioress.

The reputation of her extraordinary sanctity and prudence drew her many visits from a great number of bishops, princes, and cardinals.

Among them, Cardinals Cervini, Alexander of Medicis and Aldobrandini, who were afterwards raised to St. Peter's chair under the names of Marcellus II, Clement VIII and Leo XI.

Most wonderful were the raptures of St. Catherine in meditating on the passion of Christ, which was her daily exercise but to which she totally devoted herself every week from Thursday noon to three o'clock in the afternoon on Friday.

One of the miracles that was documented for her canonization was her appearance many hundreds of miles away from where she was physically located.

This involved appearing in a vision to St. Philip Neri, a resident of Rome, with whom she had maintained a long-term correspondence.

Neri, who was otherwise very reluctant to discuss miraculous events, confirmed the event.

After a long illness, she passed from this mortal life to everlasting bliss and possession of the object of all her desires on the feast of the Purification of our Lady on 2 February 1589, the sixty-seventh year of her age.

She was beatified by Pope Clement XII on 23 November 1732 and canonized by Pope Benedict XIV on 29 June 1746.

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Still Life with Armour by Mariano Fortuny y Madrazo + Statue of Lucius Caesar (son of Julia the Elder & Marcus Agrippa) at Corinth, Archaeological Museum + Tomb of Alcetas in Termessos (modern Turkey) + The Maison Carrée (French: "square house") was dedicated in Nemausus to Gaius and Lucius.

For the difference between the human personality and individuality of repeated earth lives see The Influence of Spiritual Beings Upon Man: Lecture VI by Rudolf Steiner

LUCIUS CAESAR

Livia left no corresponding confession. Nor would she have, since in fact no evidence connects her with the deaths of Marcellus, Marcus Agrippa, Gaius and Lucius Caesar, Agrippa Postumus, Germanicus—or even Augustus. Frequently Livia was hundreds of miles away when her ‘victim’ died of fever or a battle-wound. On the principle of ‘Where there’s a will, there’s a way’, distance apparently proved no obstacle to this mistress of the dark side. In almost every instance her weapon was poison. Against both reason and probability, we are asked to believe that, Mazzini-like, she ‘chopped down the family tree’.

—Matthew Dennison, Livia, Empress of Rome

ALCETAS

Alcetas was the brother of Perdiccas and the son of Orontes from Orestis. He is first mentioned as one of Alexander the Great's generals in his Indian expedition. On the death of Alexander, Alcetas was a strong supporter of his brother Perdiccas. At Perdiccas' orders, in 323 BC Alcetas murdered Cynane, the half-sister of Alexander the Great, as she wished to marry off her daughter Eurydice to Philip Arrhidaeus, the nominal king of Macedon. At the time of Perdiccas' murder by his own troops in Egypt in 321 BC, Alcetas was with Eumenes in Asia Minor engaged against Craterus. The Perdiccas' army revolted from him and joined Ptolemy. They condemned Alcetas and all of Perdiccas' supporters to death. (Source)

[the-queer-classic-lit-ship-ever]

woo woo! losers all of you!!!

matchups under cut!

side a

rosencrantz/guildenstern/hamlet (hamlet) vs the tell tale heart/the raven

helena/hermia (a midsummer night's dream) vs steerforth/copperfield (david copperfield)

saint-just/robespierre (the danon case) vs roderigo/iago (othello)

tybalt capulet/mercutio (romeo and juliet) vs eponine thenardier/marius pontmercy/cosette fauchelevent (les miserables)

the bear from war and peace/the bear from the winter's tale (wap and twt) vs enjolras/grantaire (les miserables)

bohun/skretuski (with fire and sword) vs proteus/valentine (the two gentlemen of verona)

gregor samsa/therapy (the metamorphosis) vs grantaire/pierre bezukhov/alcohol (les miserables; war and peace; real life)

benvolio montague/mercutio (romeo and juliet) vs romeo montague/edmund (romeo and juliet; king lear)

marya bolkonskaya/julie karagina (war and peace) vs coriolanus/tullus aufidius (coriolanus)

polonius/the curtain (hamlet) vs macbeth/banquo (macbeth)

puck/titania/oberon (a midsummer night's dream) vs courfeyrac/marius pontmercy (les miserables)

andrei bolkonsky/pierre bezukhov (war and peace) vs malcolm/macduff (macbeth)

benvolio montague/tybalt capulet/mercutio (romeo and juliet) vs benedick/beatrice (much ado about nothing)

fyodor dolokhov/anatole kuragin (war and peace) vs starbuck/ahab (moby dick)

romeo montague/tybalt capulet (romeo and juliet) vs romeo montague/paris/tybalt capulet (romeo and juliet)

andrei bolkonsky/the lofty sky (war and peace) vs christine daae/meg giry (the phantom of the opera)

side b

rodion raskolnikov/dmitri razumikhin (crime and punishment) vs andrei bolkonsky/the oak tree (war and peace)

benvolio montague/horatio/combeferre (romeo and juliet; hamlet; les miserables) vs andrei bolkonsky/anatole kuragin (war and peace)

helene kuragina/natasha rostova (war and peace) vs joly/bossuet/musichetta (les miserables)

enjolras/courfeyrac/combeferre (les miserables) vs barnardo/marcellus/francisco (hamlet)

kent/lear (king lear) vs pip/herbert (great expectations)

polonius/claudius (hamlet) vs enjolras/laertes/france (les miserables; hamlet; real life)

raoul de chagny/jay gatsby (the phantom of the opera; the great gatsby) vs don john/conrade (much ado about nothing)

tsar alexander/napoleon bonaparte (war and peace not irl) vs tybalt capulet/montparnasse (romeo and juliet; les miserables)

lord capulet/lord montague (romeo and juliet) vs alphonse berg/boris drubetskoy/nikolai rostov/vasili denisov/fyodor dolokhov (war and peace) (TIEBREAKER IN PROGRESS)

marius pontmercy/enjolras (les miserables) vs pyotr verkhovensky/nikolai stavrogin (demons)

les amis + marius (les miserables) vs macduff/macbeth (macbeth)

raoul de chagny/erik (the phantom of the opera) vs nikolai rostov/tsar alexander (war and peace)

olivia/violacesario (twelfth night) vs cyrano/roxane/christian (cyrano de bergerac)

romeo montague/bassanio/anatole kuragin/raoul de chagny/marius pontmercy (romeo and juliet; the merchant of venice; war and peace; the phantom of the opera; les miserables) vs eugenie/louise (the count of monte cristo)

hamlet/laertes (hamlet) vs lysander/demetrius (a midsummer night's dream)

desdemona/emilia (othello) vs andrei bolkonsky/enjolras (war and peace; les miserables)

[brookston]

Holidays 9.4

Holidays

Animals’ Day (Curacao)

Anthracite Coal Miner's Day

Beetle Bailey Day

Bey Day

Book Day (Tajikistan)

Bright Idea Day

Clear Day (Scientology)

Common Soapwort Day

Cooperation Day (Iran)

Glass Day

Google Day

Grand Magal de Touba (Sénégal)

Immigrant's Day (Argentina)

International Hijab Day

International Taekwondo Day

Kodak Day

L.A. Day

Larry Platt Day (Georgia)

Looking For the Boundaries (Cuchumatan Indians, Guatemala Highlands)

National Customer Day (Indonesia)

National Day (Maldives)

National Joan Rivers Day

National Leadership Day

National Only Ever You Day

National Penis Day (New Zealand)

National PKD (Polycystic Kidney Disease) Awareness Day

National When Pigs Fly Day

National Wildlife Day [also 2.22]

Newspaper Carrier Day

904 Day

Nuclear Provision Expert’s Day (Russia)

Professional Care Workers Day (UK)

Rhishi Panchami (Female Employees Only Festival; Nepal)

Royal Thai Navy Submarine Memorial Day (Thailand)

Secretary’s Day (Argentina)

Toothfish Day (Georgia;, South Sandwich Islands)

Umhlanga (Reed Dance for the Zulu King; Eswatini, f.k.a. Swaziland)

When Pigs Fly Day

World Day of PFAPA Syndrome

World Leukemia Day

World Sexual Health Day

Xena Day  

Food & Drink Celebrations

Currywurst Day (Germany)

Eat An Extra Dessert Day

Finnish Food Day

Häagen-Dazs Day

National Macadamia Nut Day

National Spice Blend Day

National Wine Day (Chile)

Independence & Related Days

Avignon (Annexed by France; 1791)

Flandrensis (Declared; 2008) [unrecognized]

Lostisland (Declared; 2010) [unrecognized]

Paxaris (Declared; 2021) [unrecognized]

1st Wednesday in September

Global Talent Acquisition Day [1st Wednesday]

Hump Day [Every Wednesday]

Indigenous Literacy Day (Australia) [1st Wednesday]

Wacky Wednesday [Every Wednesday]

Website Wednesday [Every Wednesday]

Wheat Beer Wednesday [1st Wednesday of Each Month]

Wilderness Wednesday [1st Wednesday of Each Month]

Festivals Beginning September 4, 2024

Ars Electronica Festival (Linz, Austria) [thru 9.8]

Delta Festival (Marseille, France) [thru 9.8]

Denver Food + Wine Wine Festival (Denver, Colorado) [thru 9.7]

Garfield County Fair (Enid, Oklahoma) [thru 9.7]

ION Festival (Dhërmi, Albania) [thru 9.11]

JavaZone (Oslo, Norway) [thru 9.5]

LINOLEUM International Contemporary Animation and Media Art Festival (Kyiv, Ukraine) [thru 9.8]

Moors and Christians Festival in Villena (Villena, Spain) [thru 9.9]

Moscow International Book Fair (Moscow, Russia) [thru 9.8]

Peach Days Celebration (Brigham City, Utah) [thru 9.7]

Feast Days

Aaron and Moses (Maronite Church)

Alexander Liberman (Artology)

Boniface I, pope (Christian; Saint)

Buckthorn Day (French Republic)

Candida the Elder (Christian; Saint)

Catherine of Racconigi (Christian; Blessed)

Ceremony of Transformation Through Anubis (Ancient Egypt)

Changing Woman Ceremony begins (Apache Tribe; Everyday Wicca)

Chester Brown Day (Church of the SubGenius; Saint)

David Lagercrantz (Writerism)

Dina Bélanger (Christian; Blessed)

Ed the Happy Clown Day (Church of the SubGenius; Saint)

Guglielmini (Positivist; Saint)

Hermione of Ephesus (Christian; Saint)

Ida of Herzfeld (Christian; Saint)

Irmgardis of Süchteln (Christian; Saint)

Jan Švankmajer (Artology)

Ludi Romani begins (Ancient Rome games; until September 19)

Marcellus and Valerian (Christian; Martyrs)

Marinus (Christian; Saint)

Media Aestas IV (Pagan)

Moses and Aaron (Lutheran Church and Eastern Orthodox Church)

Moses the Lawgiver (Christian; Saint)

Oskar Schlemmer (Artology)

Paul Jones (Episcopal Church)

Rhiannon (Celtic Book of Days)

Richard Wright (Writerism)

Rock Appreciation Day (Pastafarian)

Rosalia (Christian; Saint)

Rose of Viterbo (Christian; Saint)

Roosevelt Franklin (Muppetism)

Rufinus, Silvanus, and Vitalicus (Christian; Saint)

Syd Hoff (Artology)

Thamel and companions (Christian; Saints)

Tirobhab Tithi of Sri Sri Madhabdeva (Assam, India)

Triumph of the Cross (Vatican City)

Ultan of Ardbraccan (Christian; Saint)

Lucky & Unlucky Days

Fortunate Day (Pagan) [35 of 53]

Sakimake (先負 Japan) [Bad luck in the morning, good luck in the afternoon.]

Unlucky Day (Grafton’s Manual of 1565) [41 of 60]

Unlucky Monday (when Judas Escariot was born; Philippines) [1st Monday] (4 of 4)

Premieres

All About Steve (Film; 2009)

Alona on the Sarong Seas (Fleischer/Famous Popeye Cartoon; 1942)

The Big Build-Up (Terrytoons Cartoon; 1942)

Black Boy, by Richard Wright (Memoir; 1945)

Bob Roberts (Film; 1992)

Burlesque (Terrytoons Cartoon; 1932)

Butter (Film; 2011)

The Castafiore Emerald, by Hergé (Graphic Novel; 1962) [Tintin #21]

Chill Out, Scooby-Doo! (WB Animated Film; 2007)

Chilly and the Woodchopper (Chilly Willy Cartoon; 1967)

Chilly Chums (Chilly Willy & Woody Woodpecker Cartoon; 1967)

Curious George (Animated TV Series; 2006)

Easy Rider (Film; 1969)

An English Murder, by Cyril Hare (Novel; 1951)

Extract (Film; 2009)

Foiled Again or Don’t Fence Me In (Rocky & Bullwinkle Cartoon, S4, Ep. 158; 1962)

Get Lost! Little Doggy (Woody Woodpecker Cartoon; 1964)

Get Your Ya-Ya’s Out!, by The Rolling Stones (Album; 1970)

Gone Batty (WB MM Cartoon; 1954)

A Handful of Dust, by Evelyn Waugh (Novel; 1934)

The Health Farm, featuring Farmer Al Falfa (Terrytoons Cartoon; 1936)

How to Play Baseball (Disney Cartoon; 1942)

Jack and the Beanstalk (Ub Iwerks Laugh-O-Grams Cartoon; 1922)

The Last Battle, by C.S. Lewis (Novel; 1956) [The Chronicles of Narnia #7]

London Calling, by Noel Coward (Play; 1923)

Maigret Rents a Room, by Georges Simenon (Novel; 1951)

Mice Follies (Tom & Jerry Cartoon; 1954)

The Price is Right (TV Game Show; 1956)

Speaking of the Weather (WB MM Cartoon; 1937)

Swing Time (Film; 1936)

Tarzoon: Shame of the Jungle (Animated Film; 1975)

Three Musketeers, Part 1 (Rocky & Bullwinkle Cartoon, S4, Ep. 157; 1962)

Toxicity, by System of a Down (Album; 2001)

Tricky Trout (Chilly Willy Cartoon; 1961)

Xena: Warrior Princess (TV Series; 1995)

Today’s Name Days

Ida, Iris, Irmgard, Rosalia, Rosalie (Austria)

Dunja, Ida, Marin, Mojsije, Rozalija (Croatia)

Jindřiška (Czech Republic)

Theodosias (Denmark)

Priide, Priidika, Priidla (Estonia)

Ansa (Finland)

Iris, Moïse, Rosalie (France)

Ida, Iris, Irmgard, Rosalie, Sven (Germany)

Ermione, Ermioni (Greece)

Rozália (Hungary)

Rosalia (Italy)

Dzintars, Dzintra (Latvia)

Germantė, Girstautas, Rozalija, Rožė (Lithuania)

Ida, Idar (Norway)

Agatonik, Ida, Lilianna, Rościgniew, Róża, Rozalia (Poland)

Moise, Vavila (Romania)

Rozália (Slovakia)

Moisés, Rosalía (Spain)

Gisela (Sweden)

Becky, Erin, Erina, Ida, Idalia, Moe, Moises, Moses, Moss, Reba, Rebecca, Rebekah (USA)

Today is Also…

Day of Year: Day 248 of 2024; 118 days remaining in the year

ISO: Day 3 of Week 36 of 2024

Celtic Tree Calendar: Muin (Vine) [Day 4 of 28]

Chinese: Month 8 (Guy-You), Day 2 (Xin-Wei)

Chinese Year of the: Dragon 4722 (until January 29, 2025) [Wu-Chen]

Hebrew: 1 Elul 5784

Islamic: 29 Safar 1446

J Cal: 8 Gold; Oneday [7 of 30]

Julian: 22 August 2024

Moon: 2%: Waxing Crescent

Positivist: 24 Gutenberg (9th Month) [Bourgelat]

Runic Half Month: Rad (Motion) [Day 13 of 15]

Season: Summer (Day 77 of 94)

Week: 1st Full Week of September

Zodiac: Virgo (Day 14 of 32)

Calendar Changes

Elul (a.k.a. ʼĔlūl) [אֱלוּל] (Hebrew Calendar) [Month 6 of 12]

[brookstonalmanac]

Holidays 9.4

Holidays

Animals’ Day (Curacao)

Anthracite Coal Miner's Day

Beetle Bailey Day

Bey Day

Book Day (Tajikistan)

Bright Idea Day

Clear Day (Scientology)

Common Soapwort Day

Cooperation Day (Iran)

Glass Day

Google Day

Grand Magal de Touba (Sénégal)

Immigrant's Day (Argentina)

International Hijab Day

International Taekwondo Day

Kodak Day

L.A. Day

Larry Platt Day (Georgia)

Looking For the Boundaries (Cuchumatan Indians, Guatemala Highlands)

National Customer Day (Indonesia)

National Day (Maldives)

National Joan Rivers Day

National Leadership Day

National Only Ever You Day

National Penis Day (New Zealand)

National PKD (Polycystic Kidney Disease) Awareness Day

National When Pigs Fly Day

National Wildlife Day [also 2.22]

Newspaper Carrier Day

904 Day

Nuclear Provision Expert’s Day (Russia)

Professional Care Workers Day (UK)

Rhishi Panchami (Female Employees Only Festival; Nepal)

Royal Thai Navy Submarine Memorial Day (Thailand)

Secretary’s Day (Argentina)

Toothfish Day (Georgia;, South Sandwich Islands)

Umhlanga (Reed Dance for the Zulu King; Eswatini, f.k.a. Swaziland)

When Pigs Fly Day

World Day of PFAPA Syndrome

World Leukemia Day

World Sexual Health Day

Xena Day  

Food & Drink Celebrations

Currywurst Day (Germany)

Eat An Extra Dessert Day

Finnish Food Day

Häagen-Dazs Day

National Macadamia Nut Day

National Spice Blend Day

National Wine Day (Chile)

Independence & Related Days

Avignon (Annexed by France; 1791)

Flandrensis (Declared; 2008) [unrecognized]

Lostisland (Declared; 2010) [unrecognized]

Paxaris (Declared; 2021) [unrecognized]

1st Wednesday in September

Global Talent Acquisition Day [1st Wednesday]

Hump Day [Every Wednesday]

Indigenous Literacy Day (Australia) [1st Wednesday]

Wacky Wednesday [Every Wednesday]

Website Wednesday [Every Wednesday]

Wheat Beer Wednesday [1st Wednesday of Each Month]

Wilderness Wednesday [1st Wednesday of Each Month]

Festivals Beginning September 4, 2024

Ars Electronica Festival (Linz, Austria) [thru 9.8]

Delta Festival (Marseille, France) [thru 9.8]

Denver Food + Wine Wine Festival (Denver, Colorado) [thru 9.7]

Garfield County Fair (Enid, Oklahoma) [thru 9.7]

ION Festival (Dhërmi, Albania) [thru 9.11]

JavaZone (Oslo, Norway) [thru 9.5]

LINOLEUM International Contemporary Animation and Media Art Festival (Kyiv, Ukraine) [thru 9.8]

Moors and Christians Festival in Villena (Villena, Spain) [thru 9.9]

Moscow International Book Fair (Moscow, Russia) [thru 9.8]

Peach Days Celebration (Brigham City, Utah) [thru 9.7]

Feast Days

Aaron and Moses (Maronite Church)

Alexander Liberman (Artology)

Boniface I, pope (Christian; Saint)

Buckthorn Day (French Republic)

Candida the Elder (Christian; Saint)

Catherine of Racconigi (Christian; Blessed)

Ceremony of Transformation Through Anubis (Ancient Egypt)

Changing Woman Ceremony begins (Apache Tribe; Everyday Wicca)

Chester Brown Day (Church of the SubGenius; Saint)

David Lagercrantz (Writerism)

Dina Bélanger (Christian; Blessed)

Ed the Happy Clown Day (Church of the SubGenius; Saint)

Guglielmini (Positivist; Saint)

Hermione of Ephesus (Christian; Saint)

Ida of Herzfeld (Christian; Saint)

Irmgardis of Süchteln (Christian; Saint)

Jan Švankmajer (Artology)

Ludi Romani begins (Ancient Rome games; until September 19)

Marcellus and Valerian (Christian; Martyrs)

Marinus (Christian; Saint)

Media Aestas IV (Pagan)

Moses and Aaron (Lutheran Church and Eastern Orthodox Church)

Moses the Lawgiver (Christian; Saint)

Oskar Schlemmer (Artology)

Paul Jones (Episcopal Church)

Rhiannon (Celtic Book of Days)

Richard Wright (Writerism)

Rock Appreciation Day (Pastafarian)

Rosalia (Christian; Saint)

Rose of Viterbo (Christian; Saint)

Roosevelt Franklin (Muppetism)

Rufinus, Silvanus, and Vitalicus (Christian; Saint)

Syd Hoff (Artology)

Thamel and companions (Christian; Saints)

Tirobhab Tithi of Sri Sri Madhabdeva (Assam, India)

Triumph of the Cross (Vatican City)

Ultan of Ardbraccan (Christian; Saint)

Lucky & Unlucky Days

Fortunate Day (Pagan) [35 of 53]

Sakimake (先負 Japan) [Bad luck in the morning, good luck in the afternoon.]

Unlucky Day (Grafton’s Manual of 1565) [41 of 60]

Unlucky Monday (when Judas Escariot was born; Philippines) [1st Monday] (4 of 4)

Premieres

All About Steve (Film; 2009)

Alona on the Sarong Seas (Fleischer/Famous Popeye Cartoon; 1942)

The Big Build-Up (Terrytoons Cartoon; 1942)

Black Boy, by Richard Wright (Memoir; 1945)

Bob Roberts (Film; 1992)

Burlesque (Terrytoons Cartoon; 1932)

Butter (Film; 2011)

The Castafiore Emerald, by Hergé (Graphic Novel; 1962) [Tintin #21]

Chill Out, Scooby-Doo! (WB Animated Film; 2007)

Chilly and the Woodchopper (Chilly Willy Cartoon; 1967)

Chilly Chums (Chilly Willy & Woody Woodpecker Cartoon; 1967)

Curious George (Animated TV Series; 2006)

Easy Rider (Film; 1969)

An English Murder, by Cyril Hare (Novel; 1951)

Extract (Film; 2009)

Foiled Again or Don’t Fence Me In (Rocky & Bullwinkle Cartoon, S4, Ep. 158; 1962)

Get Lost! Little Doggy (Woody Woodpecker Cartoon; 1964)

Get Your Ya-Ya’s Out!, by The Rolling Stones (Album; 1970)

Gone Batty (WB MM Cartoon; 1954)

A Handful of Dust, by Evelyn Waugh (Novel; 1934)

The Health Farm, featuring Farmer Al Falfa (Terrytoons Cartoon; 1936)

How to Play Baseball (Disney Cartoon; 1942)

Jack and the Beanstalk (Ub Iwerks Laugh-O-Grams Cartoon; 1922)

The Last Battle, by C.S. Lewis (Novel; 1956) [The Chronicles of Narnia #7]

London Calling, by Noel Coward (Play; 1923)

Maigret Rents a Room, by Georges Simenon (Novel; 1951)

Mice Follies (Tom & Jerry Cartoon; 1954)

The Price is Right (TV Game Show; 1956)

Speaking of the Weather (WB MM Cartoon; 1937)

Swing Time (Film; 1936)

Tarzoon: Shame of the Jungle (Animated Film; 1975)

Three Musketeers, Part 1 (Rocky & Bullwinkle Cartoon, S4, Ep. 157; 1962)

Toxicity, by System of a Down (Album; 2001)

Tricky Trout (Chilly Willy Cartoon; 1961)

Xena: Warrior Princess (TV Series; 1995)

Today’s Name Days

Ida, Iris, Irmgard, Rosalia, Rosalie (Austria)

Dunja, Ida, Marin, Mojsije, Rozalija (Croatia)

Jindřiška (Czech Republic)

Theodosias (Denmark)

Priide, Priidika, Priidla (Estonia)

Ansa (Finland)

Iris, Moïse, Rosalie (France)

Ida, Iris, Irmgard, Rosalie, Sven (Germany)

Ermione, Ermioni (Greece)

Rozália (Hungary)

Rosalia (Italy)

Dzintars, Dzintra (Latvia)

Germantė, Girstautas, Rozalija, Rožė (Lithuania)

Ida, Idar (Norway)

Agatonik, Ida, Lilianna, Rościgniew, Róża, Rozalia (Poland)

Moise, Vavila (Romania)

Rozália (Slovakia)

Moisés, Rosalía (Spain)

Gisela (Sweden)

Becky, Erin, Erina, Ida, Idalia, Moe, Moises, Moses, Moss, Reba, Rebecca, Rebekah (USA)

Today is Also…

Day of Year: Day 248 of 2024; 118 days remaining in the year

ISO: Day 3 of Week 36 of 2024

Celtic Tree Calendar: Muin (Vine) [Day 4 of 28]

Chinese: Month 8 (Guy-You), Day 2 (Xin-Wei)

Chinese Year of the: Dragon 4722 (until January 29, 2025) [Wu-Chen]

Hebrew: 1 Elul 5784

Islamic: 29 Safar 1446

J Cal: 8 Gold; Oneday [7 of 30]

Julian: 22 August 2024

Moon: 2%: Waxing Crescent

Positivist: 24 Gutenberg (9th Month) [Bourgelat]

Runic Half Month: Rad (Motion) [Day 13 of 15]

Season: Summer (Day 77 of 94)

Week: 1st Full Week of September

Zodiac: Virgo (Day 14 of 32)

Calendar Changes

Elul (a.k.a. ʼĔlūl) [אֱלוּל] (Hebrew Calendar) [Month 6 of 12]

[saint-ambroses-bees]

@argument-side-blog cause I can’t reblog your post for whatever reason

"You’re missing the entire point of my argument. I am not saying that catholicism is right."

No, in that case, it is actually YOU who is missing the point of MY argument. Because if you cannot respond to the multiple different places where I've challenged the false teachings, evil deeds and inherent corruption of the Catholic Church, whatever else you might have to say is basically pointless.

That’s not what we’re discussing. This evidence is irrelevant in the context of the question of whether Augustine is catholic or not. This evidence is redundant because you’ve sent it to me before. I am getting to it, but this post is about Saint Augustine. Please start a new one if you’d like to discuss something on an entirely different topic

It's like saying "Yeah sure, we allied with the nazis, raped kids and lied about the origin of our authority to do these things, but my guy Augustine over here said it's cool!"

why is this relevant

We can talk about the evils that come from the people in the church, but why are we talking about it on a post about what saint augustine believes

Send me an ask or something to start another thread about a different topic if you want to talk about a different topic

So even setting aside the fact that your argument is factually wrong and you have de facto already surrendered the debate by agreeing that the overwhelming majority of what I've said is true,

How the hell is my argument factually wrong? I presented things that Augustine has said that contradict what you said. I did say some stuff about Tradition, but that’s irrelevant in the context of the question of whether Augustine is catholic or not. What did I agree with that you take as a surrendering of debate?

even if we say your supposed defense of Augustine is valid, why would I even care?

You’re literally a Christian my guy you’re supposed to look for the truth

In that case Augustine should just spend eternity in a dark place with the rest of the Catholics.

You’re literally a Christian my guy you’re supposed to love your enemy

"You also argued that Augustine believed in sola scriptura so i responded with citations of primary texts in which he says that Tradition is actually good, which as far as i know is a no-no with sola scriptura, so i did respond to your argument"

You quoted a few things he said, giving no context to when, where or to whom he said them, and then you mic dropped as if that proved your argument. You provided no sources and only minimal rhetorical support for your claim.

Did you read my post

I linked the primary texts

I gave instructions on where to look

But sure, here you go:

"For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it! Matthew 16:18 The successor of Peter was Linus, and his successors in unbroken continuity were these:— Clement, Anacletus, Evaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Iginus, Anicetus, Pius, Soter, Eleutherius, Victor, Zephirinus, Calixtus, Urbanus, Pontianus, Antherus, Fabianus, Cornelius, Lucius, Stephanus, Xystus, Dionysius, Felix, Eutychianus, Gaius, Marcellinus, Marcellus, Eusebius, Miltiades, Sylvester, Marcus, Julius, Liberius, Damasus, and Siricius, whose successor is the present Bishop Anastasius."

This quote is given in the context of Augustine writing to a friend who received a letter from a donatist. This specific Donatist apparently rejected the See because of corruption (donatists believed that ministers had to be sinless for sacraments to work or something) and Augustine spoke about the succession in the donatist’s city and then in Rome. He calls back to Apostolic succession in this quote.

Translated by J.G. Cunningham. From Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, First Series, Vol. 1. Edited by Philip Schaff. (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Publishing Co., 1887.) Revised and edited for New Advent by Kevin Knight. <http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1102053.htm>.

"For already have two councils on this question been sent to the Apostolic see; and rescripts also have come from thence. The question has been brought to an issue; would that their error may sometime be brought to an issue too!"

This quote is from a sermon on which Saint Augustine speaks on the line ‘unless you eat the flesh’; at the end (that which is quoted) he says that the Apostolic See gets the final say, and that we should listen to the end which Rome comes to.

Translated by R.G. MacMullen. From Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, First Series, Vol. 6. Edited by Philip Schaff. (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Publishing Co., 1888.) Revised and edited for New Advent by Kevin Knight. <http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/160381.htm>.

"As to those other things which we hold on the authority, not of Scripture, but of tradition, and which are observed throughout the whole world, it may be understood that they are held as approved and instituted either by the apostles themselves, or by plenary Councils, whose authority in the Church is most useful, e.g. the annual commemoration, by special solemnities, of the Lord's passion, resurrection, and ascension, and of the descent of the Holy Spirit from heaven, and whatever else is in like manner observed by the whole Church wherever it has been established."

This quote is from a letter to a friend who is wondering why different dioceses have different traditions (little t traditions, not Sacred Tradition). Augustine states at the beginning that certain things are permanent because of Scripture and Tradition, and that things like fasting on certain days are not necessarily bound by either.

Translated by J.G. Cunningham. From Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, First Series, Vol. 1. Edited by Philip Schaff. (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Publishing Co., 1887.) Revised and edited for New Advent by Kevin Knight. <http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1102054.htm>.

I could quote and explain the other ones, but the important part is that they mention Tradition as a source of authority. Continuing

In my original post, I quoted Augustine (keeping in mind that you have not disputed the quote itself),

Yes i did

Multiple times

I explicitly said that the paragraph you quoted actually says the opposite of what you say it says twice now

gave contextual explanation of why I felt the quote supported my view of the situation,

it doesn’t

then cited several additional sources which also presented the same thesis with additional supporting facts.

Here's the thing, not only did you misunderstand the quote by not reading the entire passage, but Augustine clearly elsewhere relies on Tradition as a source of authority. All he says in this passage, which btw, I have said like eight times now, is that we should be skeptical of anything new that we read. He also says that we can use the opinions of others that we know to be true because of divine help to see whether something is right or not. You quoted something that actively argues against your own point.

Sorry, but I'm going to say that my original argument still stands, even aside from the fact that your rebuttal was irrelevant.

You didn’t read my rebuttal

"I’ve hit at least two links that lead to a page that says there’s nothing to be found"

Then you are either lying or there is a technical problem on your end, because as I said, I double checked every single link I provided and they all worked. Either way, not my fault.

Technical problem I think. I can no longer see your blog. Sometimes tumblr lets me see your posts and sometimes it says they don’t exist

"These are massive questions..."

It isn't a question. There are no questions here. I haven't asked you a question.

Did you read the sentence before that one??? I said it in reference to the article which you sent me? It contains many questions about what tradition is. I imagine if you sent me the article that you wanted me to be concerned with its substance?

I gave you evidence that the Catholic Church is evil and that it has lied about it's pedigree. You can agree that I'm right, or you can explain how I'm wrong.

Fantastic. How does this coincide with Augustine’s being catholic. Because this is what this post is about, isn’t it?

And as you did in this latest response, you have mostly agreed that the majority of my argument is factually accurate.

What does that prove? Majority is not entirety.

You have only "disagreed" to a limited extent by either quoting Augustine or by making some vague philosophical objections.

It’s not vague, it’s broad. Ask narrower questions and I’ll give narrower answers.

If this debate were being judged by an outside party, I think it is safe to say they wouldn't be voting for you at this point.

It’s a good thing truth isn’t democratic isn’t it

"We literally agree with this"

See what I mean?

Because we do?

"Tradition is only Tradition if it agrees with scripture If it doesn’t, it’s not Tradition"

That isn't actually what the Catholic Church teaches or says.

Yes it does CCC 80 they must flow out of the same stream, they must be in agreement

According to the Catholic Church, it's clerics, priests, popes, etc, can write new rules and traditions at any time and those writings are given equal weight as scripture.

nope

If the new traditions and other church doctrines appear to conflict with scripture, rather than answering those contradictions, Catholics merely say things like "we wrote the bible so we know what it means" or "only the church has authority to interpret scripture."

No we don’t

Catholics never explain or defend their interpretation of scripture beyond invoking their exclusive authority, which is the circular reasoning which I cited earlier.

Yes we do

The Catholic Church also plays shell games with the supposed "infallibility" of the Pope, as I have previously pointed out.

The pope is not the same entity as the church, you realize this right? The pope has free will and can be a sinner if he so chooses. This is why there’s this specific regulation in place.

And I do not see how Augustine, having explicitly said that laypersons had every right to question so-called church authorities, would support such blatant abuse of power. Not that I care what Augustine thinks either way, but I remain unconvinced that he would support the obvious heresy and hypocrisy which is the modern day Roman Catholic Church.

How about the passage i quoted where he says that rome gets the final say and that we should listen to rome

"You assume that I don't have a life... Be patient."

I don't make assumptions about you, other than that you are Catholic and that you seem unable to explain where my arguments are wrong. And considering both of those assumptions are supported by the available facts, I believe they are justified assumptions.

It’s very difficult to read anything you send from a practical standpoint because every link leads to eighteen other links which in turn lead to even more and so on and so on and so on

So yes, i am not unable to explain that your arguments are wrong, i am unable to read a huge collection of arguments in a short time period. It takes me hours to get through a single article from the summa. There is a difference.

I have a life too. And Reformation Day is over. I've got other stuff to do this week, including preparing for Pope Night as my next Catholic bashing holiday of choice.

Glad you’re keeping up with your hobbies

And since this is my post and my blog, I'm going to invoke home rule

You invited me to this particular post, I say be hospitable (and rational).

and say you need to play by my rules and my timetable. If you haven't got a response because you need to go "research" more, so be it.

I know you’d like me to say stupid shit so you can go oh look stupid catholics but actually no i’m not gonna do that

What possible reason would you have to restrict someone to a specific timetable in an internet debate? If we were talking in person and I sat down for four days, sure. But we aren’t. So why?

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Jordann Marcellus Alexander Presents: Trans Guys Ask :Episode 1

Here's a shout out to my fellow brotha. He talks about topics for the our fellow community.

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[jessitasquirrelart]

So I was watching clips of Dragon Age, as I do, and my brain plucked Solas's "I will save the elven people" line from Trespasser and wouldn't let go until I made this.

ft. @docthebees 's Alexander Marcellus

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WIP Wednesday 1/26/22!

Thanks again for tagging me @fiadhaisteach <3

As per usual I've got art here at the top and fic under the cut.

Trespasser Flavored Angst

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I finished the piece shared in my last WIP Wednesday and am waiting for when I get a stable wifi connection so I can post it to my art blog (@jessitasquirrelart

Today's fic excerpt is actually not from Love Run, but instead from its sister fic, Not Yet, an AU in which @docthebees 's Alexander Marcellus will be the catalyst to Fen'Harel maybe thinking twice about unceremoniously dumping Lavellan. I plan to start posting it after I get a few of the chapters done and I intend to post it so that both "Crestwood" scenes are posted around the same time.

If you are interested in reading Love Run, the link is here! I post when I update it every other chapter (or so, I forget to sometimes) over at @jessitasquirrelwriting

As usual, IDK who to tag, so you reading this have been tagged.

“Daffodil! Allow me to introduce you to my friend, Altus Marcellus. He’s Tevinter but he’s not so bad,” was the introduction Varric had given.

The Inquisitor–though she wasn’t the Inquisitor yet, was she?–looked extremely young to him. The last he had seen her was in passing during his travels a decade ago. She didn't seem to recognize him as it was so brief an exchange. Before that, was his departure after the Dread Wolf had stolen her arm from her. Her face was still painted in its red Vallaslin that drew the eyes away from the splatters of freckles she had over her features. Dirthamen, if Alexander remembered his Vallaslin correctly. Her eyes were wide and youthful and new to being a leader.

“If Master Tethras recommends you, then I would be pleased to welcome you into our ranks,” she said when he asked to join. She was still very formal, practicing the training in leadership she’d received from the Dalish.

Solas, Khash–the Inquisitor’s brother–and Cassandra were with her as well, at the time. And even they looked young compared to what he knew to be their futures. Well. Cassandra and Khash did. Khash would also still just be using ‘he’ at this time, if Alexander recalled properly.

He recalled feeling a lot more dread on his first journey to Haven. Khash and Sera were still fast friends. Khash and Solas were already apathetic toward each other. Solas and Paya were already kindling some sort of romance. Alexander hadn’t realized it had started so early between them.

“You seem quite keen on studying everyone here,” Varric had pulled closer to Alexander, lowering his voice to avoid eavesdroppers, “It’s like that first time we met, almost.”

The Tevinter chuckled, “You remembered that much from that long ago?”

“Not that you’re not highly attentive, Stopwatch,” Varric said, “but you only get like this when you’re in nostalgic spaces.”

“I’m simply reminded of the last time I traveled in a large group like this,” Alexander grinned in his reply.

The dwarf’s turn to chuckle, “This is certainly a different group, isn’t it?”

“I suppose it's not nearly as colorful.”