#alleged... idk if we'll actually get them

[ziezii]

bllk has rotted my brain so much i almost forget we'll have a potential sneak peek of jjk s3 in a couple of weeks

[diz-eaze]

I will humbly add onto yandere! Ororon because I love him because he is so meow and like I want him to breastfeed me.

okay so I definitely think he would be a good househusband like LOOK AT HIM. He can keep you plump and well fed with all the food he grows like. I’m trying to say that I want to see him in an apron.

okay next point!! Definitely watches you sleep. Like will stand at the feet of your bed like a sleep paralysis demon and admire you. He knows your sleeping habits like he knows the back of his hand. If he sees that the cover is falling off you, you bet he is going to tuck you in like a new born baby, like just let him swaddle you. He knows best.

Nest. I feel like he definitely has a nest, steals your clothes on his stalking sprees and makes a nest for him to sleep in.

Horny Ororon doesn’t seem like much of a dom to me actually, he just seems too much like a wet bat for me to assume he would turn you on your axis and like obliterate you.

I have a feeling he is some kind of masochist, not in an Ajax way but in a public humiliation way, bring up to him the time that he got jealous in public, how he looked like a pathetic jealous girlfriend. Idk he seems like he would in fact get on his knees and take all your allegations and lower his head, long eyelashes lined with tears, his expression one of shame and absolute agony, he looked so sad that you thought you had actually made him hate you. Oh. But why did you look at his pants and find that there was a sopping wet tent? Must have been your eyes.

Would definitely try pegging at least once like he is so GRRGGR

Touch his little ears, bite them softly and watch him twitch and shiver under you. In his mind he is doing nothing but worshipping and thanking you for touching him, truly a blessing from a goddess if you may.

I’m like sure he would like being outted for stalking you, have an ‘got you!’ moment and slam him against a wall even if he is like 2 feet taller than you. His ears will pin back in shame, idk humiliate him or smth bae. Your pick.

Okay, I’m going back into my cave.. bye bye for now

THIS IS INSANE,,, THIS IS MAKING ME FERAL WHAT THE FAWKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK I'M GONNA THROW HIM AROUND LIKE A RAGDOLL WTFFFFFF. do not let ororon around me bc we'll be in a toxic relationship and he'll be the enabler </3.

; yandere, pathetic ororon, somewhat nsfw content, not proofread, he gets bullied but he's into it :/.

you can't help but think what values were instilled into his head when he was young for him to turn out like this, or perhaps, this is simply the way he is.

and there's even a secret third option: that he was doing just fine until he met you. maybe you are the reason why he's like this.

you hum. indeed, the third option sounds more probable. but then, what course of action are you supposed to take in a situation like this? are you supposed to slap him and run away, report him to his tribe's chief, berate him until your throat bleeds, ignore him until the world collapses?

there are many options. yet you choose the one that lowers yourself down to his level of degeneracy. that alone makes you two peas in a pod with him.

your foot applies more pressure on the bulge that strains against ororon's jeans. you don't know if it's natlan's climate, or something far worse, but it is unbearably hot. perspiration makes itself known at the nape of your neck, but you choose to ignore it. you can't afford to tear your eyes away from his kneeling figure.

he whimpers then, fingers curling into his palm with his ears pinned back. his face is flushed, and he's biting his lip so hard you worry he might prick into blood. yet your eyes still look down upon him. it's weird, he must feel shame, does he not? so why does he look like he's on the cusp of reaching celestia, despite his guilt-laden voice earlier?

annoyed at the disjunction between his words and actions, you remove your foot from its rightful place, intent on walking out of the entire situation altogether - after all, what were you thinking?

yet the moment you lift an inch away from the blazing heat emanating from the bulge in his jeans, ororon's left hand grasps your ankle in lightning speed. his short nails curl around their prey.

a-ah... his voice tapers off into a moan. wait..!

what. comes your snip response.

stay, please... i'm sorry. ororon openly pants, breaths coming out in puffs of hot air. it's starting to feeling stifling in this enclosed space with him, and you're starting to burn up. but you know he's not ashamed of his actions at all - he's sorry for not being sorry.

if he was truly sorry, then he would have promised to never tamper with your dreams again. yet the moment the confrontation settles, and you retire into your bed for the night, you know you're being watched - both in your dream and in real life at the foot of your bed.

[fallenoffordied]

weird ask based on ur bio, but what do YOU consider a pw stan to be? like somebody who defends him, or people who just generally talk/post about him, or a secret third thing?

nono its not weird at all!!!!

i'd consider a pw stan (or just a stan of anything in general) to be someone whos incredibly obsessive and protective of the object of their stanning, so for example a pw stan, when faced with like the jw allegations, would be all "well she never said who it was! she was actually 17!" while ignoring the other compounding evidence or even just straight up saying shes lying about stuff or saying "it got disproved" without linking where this hypothetical disproving happened

just like blind adoration and an unwillingness to examine the flaws of what they stan or the harm what they stan has caused to the point of actively ignoring reality/slipping into really bad moral codes to justify their love of what/who they stan

theres a sort of militancy to it in a way, or like a culty aspect to it??? like there are only a few certain ideas that can be expressed that are permissible in the stan world but anything that goes against those permissible ideas are immediately violently attacked/harassed until it stops?? think "its illegal to hate ---" jokes, a lot of this behavior is hidden behind lots of jokes (everything is nowadays since we're all irony poisoned to shit) but i do believe those jokes kinda signal their mindsets and behavior

for people who just post about him im like 50/50 on them idk how to feel but idk if i'd consider them stans, it'd all have to do with how they engage in the discussions of pete's behavior over his career and the harm he's caused, like if you post pete but you actively engage in discussions of his issues and dont deny the facts of what happened and acknowledge hes a shitbag ig youre alright-ish (esp compared to the REALLY intense pw apologist/defender side of the fob fandom) but then i'd have to consider what itd mean to post the other members considering theyve stuck by pete for this long and possibly/probably are aware of the harm hes caused and seemingly dgaf (varying levels of guilt according to member since the dynamics of fob are complicated cuz of joe/pete arma thing he talked about in none of this rocks/the ages and the fact that patrick/joe havent been doing much outside of fob for a very large part of their lives since they were quite young and impressionable ykyk) its weird

i still dont know in general about how i feel about posting and being in fandom for people whove done things like pete since for other artists/bands and stuff ive been a lot more black/white about how i deal with them but now im in some weirdo grey area and im still navigating so my mind will probably change a lot about this particular issue

idk atp simply saying "yeah petes a predator and a misogynist though his work/his persona(??) are very important to me" is kind of a win since it feels like thats the most we'll get from people since EVERYBODY loves fob (for good reason theyre an incredible/interesting band both in music and their public image/lore) and lord knows if anyone tries to "cancel" or deplatform them its not gonna happen theyre internationally beloved and super big even now but whatever

idk if that makes sense it was really tangenty and messy but hope that answers your question! :DD

[mistressemmedi]

As somebody who is not familiar with them besides the curse and their friendship with Charles can you please give us all the tea in English?

Pop a squat and get some water to stay hydrated, this going to be a long one so I'll post it under the read more

The protagonists

Chiara Ferragni - one of the OG Influencers™. Literally, she started her blogging/influencing career back in 2010(? ish), went on to create a business around her 'The Blond Salad' brand.

Fedez - part time rapper, part time tv presenter, part time... Idk. Something.

Fabrizio Corona - notorious (derogatory) paparazzo in Italy, general nuisance and waste of oxygen. Allegedly team Fedez (?????)

Angelica Montini - fashion designer and influencer (?), Fedez' mistress

Achille Lauro - un gran pezzo di manzo Singer and alleged fling of Chiara. Used to be friends with Fedez, they released a song together.

Important dates:

2016 - Chiara and Fedez start dating

2017 - Fedez proposes in the middle of a concert

March 2018 - their first kid, Leone, is born

September 2018 - they get married (y'all need to look the wedding up, it was insane)

March 2021 - their second kid, Vittoria, is born

March 2022 - Fedez reveals he had been sick for a while and had a pancreatic tumor removed

2023 - Fedez has various health problems, he takes a step back from 'public' life

2023 - Chiara is fined 1.1 mil euros for fraud.

Also in 2023 - Charles Leclerc suffers through Sanremo and watches as his friends marriage crumbles in front of him lmao

2024 - Fedez and Chiara officially separate

2025 - Chiara gets indicted on fraud charges, will have to go to trial in September

2025 - Fabrizio Corona (derogatory) drops the cheating allegation bombshell

2025 - Chiara confirm the cheating allegations are true via Instagram stories

The fraud

Chiara endorsed a pink pandoro made by Balocco - a % of the sales for the pandoro was supposed to go as a donation to a pediatric hospital. Turns out that Balocco made a one time donation of 50k prior to the pandoro going on sale and kept the rest of the €€€ and so did Chiara.

Chiara claims that she didn't know about it, her reputation suffers a bit of a hit, everyone starts eyeing her, things are not good.

Ferragnez

I need y'all to understand that Chiara and Fedez were everywhere in Italy. Brand deals, constant socmed posting, they even had their own tv show ffs (two seasons of these guys, TWO!!). Literally everywhere. The Ferragnez were a brand (a là Brangelina)

The cheating

Turns out that Fedez had been cheating on Chiara for the majority of the relationship. According to Corona, Fedez was in love with Angelica but Angelica was never that into Fedez. He was so down bad for this girl that the day he got married, he called Angelica and said "Just one word from you and I'll walk away from all of this" - clearly she told him "wtf you on bro" because the Ferragnez wedding went ahead as scheduled. Fedez was too chicken shit to actually break off the relationship because of the kid (only one at the time) and the brand/money involved. The cheating continued up until their separation.

The Instagram Story

Auto translate

and original in Italian

Fabrizio Corona never shuts up (unfortunately)

Despite dropping the bombshell and dragging his so called friend through the mud, Corona came out and told Chiara to stop making herself look like a victim because she did her fair share of cheating as well. He said he would drop names in the coming days and started by pointing fingers at Achille Lauro (god, I've seen what you've done for others, when will it be my turn???)

Conclusion (and my thoughts which you didn't ask for lmao)

The saga is not over and we'll have more in the coming weeks. Sanremo is in aprox two weeks (y'all know how crazy that is), and both Fedez and Achille are going to be participating 👀

Fedez had also decided to compete with the song "Bella stronza" (translation: beautiful bitch [idk it's hard to properly explain the connotations of 'stronza' if you don't speak italian]) during the duet/cover night, which... Bro. Tone deaf much?

The timing of everything is very sus. The fact that this whole drama came out now and basically buried all conversations about Chiara's fraud charges, the fact that everyone and their nonna will be watching Achille and Fedez at Sanremo, etc etc.

Again, a bit sus.

But I do feel bad for the kids... Their parents basically have broadcast their lives 24/7 for everyone to see and idk. It's a bit sad 😶

[n0nesence]

I'm honestly so confused about that Tiktok Timothy made about the r@p3 allegations. In November of 2017, Timothy tweeted "what if I have my own story of ab*se but I'm scared to ruin the persons life and I still love them in a f*ck*d up way and the public really loves them and most probably wouldn't believe me" (talking about Melanie) And on December 4, 2017, Timothy publicly accused Melanie of s*xual assault on Twitter. She alleged two nights during which she "repeatedly said no" to advances from Melanie, claiming she kept secret for years and describing how Melanie had performed s*xual activities on her without her consent. Melanie replied to the accusation shortly after claiming Timothy's allegation was false, and stating "she never said no to what we chose to do together". Melanie further affirmed: "I understand how hard it could be to see my side of the story, considering no one with a heart would want to invalidate anyone speaking up about this topic I would never be intimate with someone without their absolute consent" and then In an interview with Newsweek, Timothy claimed that Melanie tried to contact both her and her boyfriend around 20 minutes after publishing the accusations through text and phone calls. No evidence to back this up was ever shared. In the aforementioned interview, Timothy went on to say that Melanie's dismissal of her account "says it all": "First of all, I did say 'no,' multiple times, but even if I hadn't, that doesn't mean I wanted it. She dug her own grave saying, 'she didn't say no'. That's not consent." I'm so confused, because Timothy said this and then she had changed the story multiple times in that year ect. and now she's talking about it again after so many years, why didn't she go to the police ect. I don't know, her Tiktok is confusing. Like, why would you make a Tiktok instead of going to the police? (Also, I'm not picking sides or anything I'm just saying because this is really confusing) anyways, I hope the truth is revealed, idk.

(Just wanted to share my thoughts about it and the information I had because I've been a fan of Melanie since 2012 and I have seen the 2017 tweets Timothy had said and I have them screenshoted after years and everything)

Exactly, the story is getting changed left right and centre. There's no clear story

Also, Timothy's friend has actually revealed that in 2017 when Melanie actually tried to call her to understand what was happening with the accusations, Timothy just laughed at her and said nothing before hanging up (you can find it here)

Timothy also isn't that good of a person anyway, she's been caught saying the N word, lying about being trans for money from a rapper, and getting a person in junior high to create the banner for her Only Fans 😬 (she's also been seen only letting her minor-aged fans access to her private Instagram...)

I feel like there's much more to this case than what either are speaking about (not that Melanie is speaking at all)

I guess we'll just have to wait it out just like in 2017 (just like the saying: history will always find a way to repeat itself)

Also please either send or post those screenshots! I've never actually been able to read them fully, just been able to read the ones that aren't fully true yk?

[kerubimcrepin]

Episode 26 - A Hairy Mystery

TW: Discussions of in-universe false allegations of S.A. towards animals and/or children. Discussions of addictions, and what might be actual S.A.

This episode is a doozy, both canonically and due to the analysis I conduct.

From the first seconds of the episode, we can note one very important detail:

The episode's narration is not censored by Kerubim, as is usually the case, but filtered through Joris's very limited understanding of sexuality and other adult things, and metaphors alluding to those.

Which results in this being a very dark episode in every single way possible and kinda batshit insane, when thought about for too much.

This is the same house as the one we'll see in Episode 50, Deadly Charm.

During Episode 50's time, the two of them share this house. This may suggest that the two episodes happen relatively closely, timeline-wise. It would make sense, considering the fact that in both of these episodes, Lou investigates crimes.

This investigation sounds like how long a war that would result in the birth of a very cool huppermage would last.

This episode will be hellish to translate... First of all: all the little text on these images? Just gibberish. Also, it's the same gibberish copypasted in all the newspapers.

However, we have some juicy stuff in the big text blocks: real text, with more context for the ep, besides what we see through Joris's ~imagination~

Big text on the top:

"LITTLE CAT (??? something something)

LITTLE CAT WHO DRANK MILK WAS NICE, FRIENDLY AND WELL-BEHAVED, WHICH DOESN'T/DIDN'T---

THIS BY PUTTING LAXATIVE IN THE BOWL OF HIS SWEET SELF"

Big text on the bottom:

"HE LOOKS LIKE A BEANPOLE(???) -----------UN"

Firstly: the newspaper name says "BOTA" instead of "BONTA"... Not even a spare letter "N" for the starving public?

The text on the left is, for some reason, upside down, and the letter N is in my transcription only because it makes more sense than W. What is says is: "EST U(N)E FIOTTE"

Translation: Someone (a female judging by "une") is (I am about to quote google here) "a homophobic(?) swear word for men(??)."

I'm sure someone in Ankama was very giddy to have snuck this in, but god, I wish I knew what this really means.

Don't worry. There are worse hidden texts in this episode... Like this next one.

I guess that what Kerubim is accused of is. Uh. not... literally eating a cat. It's something... different. Or eating the cat and also doing other things to the cat. hm.

I guess for Ecaflips, doing this to a cat, is not just an animal thing but also uh. a kid thing.

...Idk if I ever wanted to know this much about the World of Twelve. Man.

To pause from the insanity of this episode so far, I want to point out, that, both here, and in the episode 50, which we had established, takes place close to this one, Kerubim and Lou are very close to marriage/consider each other fiancés (in episode 50, she is referred to as his wife, despite them not being married).

So... I am assuming both of them take place before Ecaflip City! We're making some real discoveries here, folks.

This episode was funnier before I knew this was Kerubim's twitter callout arc. Now it's just sad.·😭

Also, in a better circumstance, I would comment on how cute it is that Kerubim says he likes cats (or babies, considering that for ecaflips... yeah. man. this episode is making me say insane things.) that much.

No wonder he's going fucking insane.

The first one is a reused text asset from the first episodes that says "MAISON DE NERUBIM CREPIN". What she is writing seems to be "RMCP"

The second one is, uh. Yeah.

Judging by the paintings, I suppose this episode takes place after Vax's Art (ep10) and Bashi the Shark (ep7).

I know these are just reused assets, but also — it's Ankama's own fault that they gave me this to do theorizing with.

Jesus fucking Christ, here we go. Twenty pages of analysis incoming:

He had a very interesting evening. Getting drunk (as usual), gambling (as usual)...

But having a woman "ride" him, while being very, very drunk, too — is this also, in fact, usual? Hopefully, it was a literal riding, horse-style.

Judging from Lou's phrasing and reaction, as well as this episode's whole thing so far, it was probably not.

Which is... not good at all. Yeah.

We'll never truly know, with Joris's unreliable narration in this episode. But I am sad to report, that I don't think it would be out of character for Kerubim to... have these things happen to him, and be okay with that.

And it's in-character for Lou to view Kerubim's habits of getting drunk and gambling everything away, while having ambiguously-nonconsensual (on his side) relations with women, as punishable evils on his part, good old "shit boyfriend" behaviours.

Instead of, y'know, self-destruction.

...Okay, I think I am ready to present something to you, so here's a refresher for my earlier liveblogs, in the form of the six tenets of theorizing about their final break up we established:

She left sad, and unlike many other times, without any anger for Kerubim.

She left Luis with him to watch over him.

She also left Luis because he couldn’t go with her, but that could mean many things.

She left after Ecaflip City, obviously, and at that time, their relationship seemed the healthiest. (Well, as healthy as it could be.)

Unlike all the other times, Kerubim didn’t go searching for her. It seems this separation was final in a way no other was, and there had to be a reason that he didn’t go and try to make up. An unsolvable issue.

Both Luis and Kerubim blame Kerubim, and the first one uses this to make the second one angry.

I think it's time to make to finally reveal my Divorce Theory:

I think Lou left Kerubim after regaining her memories, and realizing that they're just bad for each other.

She often manipulated him using his insecurities and fears of abandonment, which are the result of his childhood traumas. She hit him, and disregarded, or at times exacerbated, his various mental health issues.

While he has cheated on her many times while being completely sober, without any regard for her personhood and feelings. He's gambled away her memories.

Yes, they loved each other, but they were horrible together.

And I think it's a very sad realization to have about someone you've been in love with for your whole life:

That all you've ever managed to do is hurt each other, and make things worse.

...Now that I'm done with sad divorce theories, let's finish up this episode.

The newspaper that shows miss Kitty behind bars, has all the same text as the newspaper where Kerubim is behind bars, so I won't include it, but this?

This has a plot twist:

"EM ILIE EST U(N)E FIOTTE"

...Emilie, if you're out there: years ago, in Dofus: Aux Trésors de Kerubim, someone called you a bad word.

And I hope it was a joke and not some office drama. I really do hope so.

...My reaction to this whole fucking episode, Keke.

My exact reaction to all of it.

This is the face of a parent who knows that he will have to assess the damage. A second plane has hit the fucking pentagon level damage.

The "will he be asking me what "riding" means now?" "will he be asking me why "you ate a kitten" allegations got me into prison?" level damage.

Actual nightmare.

[nikatyler]

🌈 2023 ✨

Another year is over so it's time for a look back at what was happening on this blog! I haven't really been around, it was just my queue, and maybe that's one reason why I looked at my archive and went "huh" at everything. I don't remember much. The other reason why this year probably went poof in my head is because I was dealing with some mental health stuff lol. I say lol but it wasn't actually very lol but I'm doing better now and 2024...is looking promising for now.

So, let's talk more under the cut, shall we?

January

We're in Bridgeport and Sawyer is living his best life. You know, girlfriends, boyfriends, being turned into a vampire, giving birth to three little vampires, threatening to sell his enemies' organs on the black market...best life indeed.

February

Okay I am now seeing that "talking more" about every month will be impossible since I actually don't have much recollection of 2023 lmao

March

Sawyer and Erin are at the best point of their relationship, but we left them alone for a bit and went back to NSB. Pastel just moved to Strangerville and got a...rather strange roommate.

April

The rather strange roommate becomes Pastel's rather strange wife. I love these two so much. We also say hello to Moss -- and also to Ross, who returns from...god knows where. I mean yeah, there was the ts3 Ross, but technically they're two different people. Parallel universes and stuff.

May

Thea is born and strange wife Jesse gets even stranger. That whole "merging with the mother plant" thing was kinda weird but I really enjoyed it. Idk what I was on but it was fun. And then, before returning to the lepacy, I posted my Cottage Living screenshots! ...which were really just me going "uwu what does this do" on every possible Wicked Whims option.

June

...and I went from posting weird WW Ross stuff to posting wholesome Growing Together Ross stuff. If that gave you a whiplash, I am sorry, but imagine what it must be like for me. I'm locked with this guy in my head 24/7. He's the whiplash king. A blorbo to you, a curse to me. A beloved curse tho. Ok I'm getting weird. Back to the lepacy.

July

Lepacy time! Loved the soap opera Generations gen. Kinda wish I had sticked to some of the storylines instead of going "eh nvm I just wanna play". I'm not saying I regret not actually letting Saywer go on a killing spree but also...imagine if he went on a killing spree. You don't see that in lepacies often do ya

August

August was...welp 💀 I was at the grippy socks hospital for most of that month, 10/10 would recommend, but my queue ran out while I was there so I just reblogged some old stuff for a few weeks.

September

September is just lepacy month. Cornelia and Archer are happy, they get married, they get more children...yeah. Good wholesome Generations times all around. It's not like they're gonna get divorced later or anything.

October

The twins are kind of chaotic, one of them turns into a ghost, both then bring their cursed imaginary friends to life...and the final child of Archer and Cornelia is born.

November

I loved running into Sawyer at the grocery store all the time. Weird vampire alleged killer grandpa behavior suits him. Dorothea goes away to a boarding school, hates it there and instantly comes back. Relatable. Oh and midlife crisis hits Archer hard.

December

And we're in December! Dorothea enters her horsegirl era and finds herself a girlfriend...and we'll continue that in 2024!

What's in store for the new year besides the lepacy? Well, Not So Berry will be making a return (and HOPEFULLY we'll finally get to the end. we need to). There's a story I want to do in the NSB universe, if you know you know. Before we dive into the next lepacy generation, I'm thinking of another BC with the gen 7 heir...oh and Marika's Black Widow. Shoot and I'm starting an irl job in January. Yeah no we're not doing all this in 2024, don't count on it 💀 But I'll try.

Happy New Year! 🎇

[khiphop-discussions]

Are any of these men still going to the military cause I could've sworn like half of them should've enlisted already but they out here having tours and doing god knows what? Did I miss anything?

Right???? So there's been lots of speculation over the last few years cause lots of people have been approaching military age.

Some people have mental health (and potentially physical health) issues that we don't know about (or at least not in the full depth). It depends on what the Korean government considers "debilitating". So those people don't have to go (People suspect Giriboy is in this category but I've also seen people say he actually does have to go. IDK I guess we'll just wait and see...but we've kinda been waiting for a LONG time already lol). People whose conditions aren't considered "debilitating" enough are allowed to do "non-active duty" work, like social work for example.

Based on recent events in KHH, some people are finding ways to dodge by making their money work for them. So Ravi and Nafla are the two most recent examples. But also, there's allegations that Gwangil Jo* did or is trying to dodge it as well.

*This was alleged during a diss song so take it with a grain of salt obviously

As for 1, there's actually quite a few people in KHH who are on medications that are related to mental health issues. I KNOW they have legal prescriptions which means they are currently, or at least at one point were, under a psychiatrists care. As for the "non-active duty" aspect, I'm not too sure how that works. I wonder if some people end up just working the equivalent of a regular 9-5 (or whatever times people work in Korea cause I know their work lives can sometimes be A LOT more hectic than ours in the US) and then go home? If that was the case, it might be easier for some people to just not announce their "enlistment" and just live their lives like a non-celebrity/entertainer. That would explain artists who just randomly go ghost for LONG periods of time. Again, I have NO clue how that really works though. This is just me thinking "out loud".

As for 2? I know it's illegal but I do NOT hold it against them. I DEFINITELY would be trying to dodge military service if it was me in that position LOL. Of course, the problem is (which I've seen some people highlighting when discussing the issue with Ravi) since some of these people are paying/bribing to get diagnosed with things they don't have, the evaluations are going to get even more strict and invasive which hurts people who are actually living with the conditions. Also, I would think some conditions (like mental health or one related to chronic pains, which are much harder to prove) might be re-evaluated as being "exempt" and even be taken off the list altogether. MC Mong some years ago had a dentist extract teeth unnecessarily in an attempt to dodge. He got caught as well. So again, people who genuinely had to have teeth removed are probably scrutinized more due to this.

The other problem is a class/money issue. Obviously only people with money are able to dodge in this way while the lower classes have no choice but to go.

[idontwanttospoiltheparty]

if I wasn't deliberately only peripherally active in the Taylor fandom (which is different from my being a fan of hers, to be clear) I would be posting like 200394835483 million things every fucking weekend

[cassianandfenrysaremyboyos]

I literally finished reading TS&TWON along with you<3 This is the first time I get to send you my immediate thoughts/asks about a book!!

First, I wanted to know your opinion on Vincent bc I found him more interesting, and overall liked him more than Rhain. I found Rhain a bit too "squeaky clean" for my tastes, while Vincent had a more morally gray thing going on💘. Also skip this if you don't like theories but.... I think Vincent didn't r*pe Nessanyn, but they were lovers and Oraya is their lost descendant, not his direct daughter.

Oh yay I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did!! 💕

I absolutely loved Vincent! I wouldn't necessarily say I loved him more then Raihn (although I can see what you mean about Raihn, he is a very good boy for a vampire lol and he could of been a little more morally grey, but at the same time I like the aspect of him still holding on to his humanity as a comparison to Vincent who was born a vampire and never had it) I loved them both pretty equally but I have such a soft spot for Vincent. He's the ultimate dilf. I love that he's morally grey. I love that's he's done, and will do terrible things to keep his power, and that he's completely unremorseful and unapologetic about it. I love that he's not good! And all of that makes me love his relationship with Oraya even more. That he's so soft for her, and only her. That this terrifying Vampire King who wipes out entire cities, who murdered his parents and siblings, who has no care for humans, loves his little human daughter more then anything makes my heart squeeze! 💓 He's so interesting and complex, and I wish we'd gotten more of him, and got to explore that a little more. I mean he was obviously keeping a lot of things from Oraya, and now we'll never get the answers directly from him which I would of liked to hear

I don't think he did that either, or at least I hope not? Raihn wasn't there and say's he doesn't know. Raihn just threw that allegation out there but has no knowledge or proof of anything so I'm choosing to believe it's not true until proven otherwise. As for your theory, that never even entered my mind! But it's possible? I feel like Oraya would of heard if Vincent ever had another child though? Unless they were kept very secret... or maybe kept secret from Vincent so he didn't even know?? 🤔 (especially considering vampires often kill or cripple their families) and then that child went on the have a child (Oraya) with a human?? And has since died? Because if Vincent had a living vampire child then the heir mark would of transfered to them? Idk I'm just having random thoughts lol

Personally I think the book was indicating that Vincent was actually Oraya's father. With what I can only assume was a human mother? And how or why that came about I don't know?? But who knows! I'm sure we'll get some answers in the second book

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Ok so I finally read the soompi post defending Lucas and I wanted to share my thoughts:

They presented some strong points, but their bias is also pretty obvious and they always land with such bold assumptions that just don't make sense. It makes me a bit skeptical.

Anyway, I'll start with the information they got from the ooooshiiim account and the twitter prediction account:

The user ids they represented are def real, that can be easily confirmed by going to websites that translate user handles to ids.

But them comparing one manga character to lucas and assuming that somehow that disproves OP 1's claims is hilarious LMAO. The description of the fictional character would literally fit most male idols, idk how they went like "oh this guy severely resembles lucas, another evidence yay!"

As with the Instagram account, I can't seem to find it?? If, say, it's really OP, did they happen to find the soompi post and decided to delete the Instagram account/change the username? This is also poses the possibility that the Instagram account isn't actually real, but I guess we'll never know.

I also wish the soompi lumi provided a link to the account and some more elaboration on how their cyber investigator found it through the twitter acc's digital footprints. The manga part is very elaborate but most else is just pretty vague which I find a bit questionable?

The said fabrication of the chat records: doesn't the gaps depend on what version of WeChat it is? I searched for "wechat screenshots" and some gaps can indeed be as big as the ones in the chat records.

It would also have been better if they highlighted the gap inconsistencies/misalignments they are pointing out because personally I don't see it(but maybe it's just my eyes bluffing).

I don't have much to say about the schedule parts since I don't follow their schedules closely and I'm too lazy to search for it, but I guess what those fans said do make sense.

The voice messages: I don't have much to say either since I don't speak korean. But last time I heard the alleged voice message and the bubble one lumis are using as proof, they didn't sound alike. But then again, I don't know korean.

The sasaeng photos: I guess it also kinda makes sense. But I feel like the fan who said they got the same photo OP 1 had provided should have just showed a screenshot of her conversation with the sasaeng she claims to be selling them, I mean, the photo is already out, so what difference of not specifying which photo it is/not showing the screenshots of her conversation with the sasaeng would make?

The ring part: the soompi lumi's argument also seems pretty valid. It really does not look like his finger.

The OP 2 part: I don't know mandarin or cantonese so I can't really comment on the nuances the fans are trying to point out. I don't understand the red boxes though, were those part of the original photos OP 2 provided or are they highlights of the misalignments lumis are trying to point out?

The OP 3 part: Oh they can definitely be a guy, but it's also possible that they didn't use their actual gender in the account(I myself do that all the time, for privacy reasons). But once again, we will never know which is true.

The photo is indeed very questionable. Why is the background blurred? Why are there plushies everywhere? Why is there a reflection of what seems like a man in the glass when they're supposedly alone? But there seems to be a door and a small hallway reflected on the glass too? It looks clean and hotel-like. And the one who took the photo seemed to be sitting right besides him based on the photo's angle. If it's taken by a sasaeng staff as fans have claimed, how did the sasaeng staff secretly took a photo like that while literally sitting besides lucas and with other people around them(like the "man in the glass") without the other people in the dorm questioning what the fuck is that staff doing? But another explanation I can think of(if the photo really came from a sasaeng staff) is that a member took the photo(with Lucas being aware of it) and somehow the sasaeng staff managed to get it?

With OP 3's chat records, again I don't see the gap mistakes or misalignment they are pointing out, I again tried to look at WeChat examples on the internet and the difference between the size of the messages and the dates is a normal thing, so is the gap between 2 messages vs the gap at bottom of the chat. And the "difference" between the two s's in lucas's username they are pointing out is honestly ridiculous. The photo is taken from an asymmetrical angle, of course the sizes would look unequal.

The sleeping photos: the plushies' textures don't look the same, dorm plushie looks more rough while the plushie Lucas is sleeping with looks softer and fuzzier. And if it was taken by a sasaeng in the wayv dorm as fans have claimed, how the hell is the sasaeng within such a close proximity? There's so many people in the dorm and I doubt they'd be all asleep at that time to not notice that a sasaeng is right besides their sleeping member literally photographing him.

The jacket and photo receipts: Oh I've seen this on another article. I'm convinced with the debunking of the jacket part, and receipts are everywhere in the internet. I guess it isn't impossible that OP 3 might have just took the receipts somewhere online.

OP 4's surfing video: Yes, same pose, but different angles? That does not look exactly the same as the one he showed in his socials. But that black spot is definitely questionable.

OP 4's WeChat records: Oh another questionable one. Especially the imbalance in the color value. But once I again I think it would have been better if they provided the links to the other debunk posts they included because man I can't see the cutting traces in the chats that they are pointing out.

OP 1's second post: again I think the difference in wechat date layouts depend on the version? And why did most koreans themselves didn't question the difference in OP 1's wechat? Like if korean wechat really don't look like that, wouldn't they point it out?

"their account creation dates and account activity all falls within the same time period." Um no?? 2015, 2019, 2018 are same time periods??

In conclusion, as I said before, I think the soompi lumi presented strong points that really make you question the credibility of the allegations, but their intense bias towards lucas makes them quite questionable, too. And the way they treat every debunk post like the absolute divine truth is pretty off-putting.

I'm convinced not everything in the allegations are true. I'm just curious about the severity of his actions. Maybe he dated them, but maybe he wasn't an asshole? But if that's the case why would they try to ruin his image if he treated them right? Or maybe he really was an asshole but some of the story isn't true? Ah I'm still so confused of what to think but I believe there has to be some truth in the story, but just how bad is the truth???

thank you for sending me your thoughts! it's always interesting to see what other people think. (and sorry for the late reply!)

i'm not gonna say much as i've talk about my thoughts on the post already.

i agree about the manga, it's absolutely ridiculous how comparing one manga character to lucas debunks their claims. that's just one example of one of the far fetched assumptions that made me lean more towards not believing the article.

part of me also wondered if they created the ig account for their article but like you said, we’ll never know.

even if it doesn’t look like his finger in the messages, I’m pretty sure he mentioned winwin in the texts ??

I know some people blur the background of photos for either aesthetic, or mostly for privacy reasons.

I honestly don’t know how people are seeing a man in the reflection. It’s a literally blob. You can’t make out any (person) shape.

The jacket and receipts is the only thing I took away from that article that I actually kind of believed. I talked about this with another anon. That is super easy to fake, but the photos were also originally blurry so a “blur” around the words would be hard to solidify as evidence unless the photo is in ultra hd or something lol. But to me this is the most believable to be fake.

I once saw a twitter thread pointing out how the messages weren’t photoshopped and explained why they looked “misaligned” or whatever but I can’t remember what it said exactly besides auto translations. I won’t be able to find it again because it was so long ago :/

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but wechat is more of a China thing? Like not a lot of people outside of China/non-Chinese use it. You’re right about why Koreans didn’t point it out, but I don’t think they’d know if they don’t use it ??

You asked a lot of questions and pointed out a lot of things that are something to think about, but I don’t think anyone has a clear answer unless you have an extreme bias.

I also wondered the severity of his actions. I think this whole thing is a mix of truth and lies. We all want to know the truth and the worst part is we never will. Like you said, how bad is the truth?

(I might edit this later and add some stuff 😅)