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#also im not saying all comic discourse is bad. i like some good discussion
fishfission-dc · 2 years
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With comic book fans it’s always “current [character] is so out of character because in [specific comic run from 30 years ago] he acted like this.”
Fellas, the best part of comics is that the characters constantly evolve, and probably have been changed over and over again for longer than you’ve been alive. Each writer and artist reimagines the character in their own way, in a new way that will speak to different people in a different time. I shamelessly love New 52 Red Hood & Arsenal, and don’t really like Three Jokers Jason Todd or Young Justice Arsenal. And that’s okay. Maybe you hate New 52 Jason and love Rebirth Jason. And that’s okay!!
Even though it’s irritating, don’t hate on writers and artists for creating your character in a way that you don’t find “accurate.” In comics, after all this time, I don’t think there is an “accurate” way to portray a character. They’re vessels to tell a story, and are meant to change.
It’s okay if you don’t like a certain portrayal of your favorite comic character, because you probably already have media out there to consume that does portray them in a way that speaks to you, and the character will probably continue to grow and change forever. And that’s really cool.
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submission i got
“I mean if you mean the Joker for “did you want him to SHOOT the mentally ill?” then yes I guess I do? This is a false dichotomy let’s be honest.”
not what i meant. the og post said something about bruce punching mentally ill people and that he was a pussy for not killing like Jason-ergo did you want him to shoot the mentally ill? 
“Like I could say hey its good that the Allies killed Nazis in WWII, and at the same time say many Allied soldiers did awful things to civilians especially in Japan and that’s bad. Do you think I would want Allied soldiers to kill everyone?”
i feel reallly uncomfortable talking about real world issues in relation to fun time comic fictional lets have fun stuff. discussing the issues of how we should handle “justice” is fun but not some much when in relation to the real hardships experienced by actual real people. 
“Maybe what people are really trying to say is Batman is an imperfect person who needs to adjust his methods based on who he is facing. He far too often uses extreme excessive violence when it isn’t needed. At the same time there are stories where he rejects any kind of violence even when used as self defense by people who do need it to protect themselves. As was the case in the Batman story with the woman who used violence to kill a serial rapist murder  that was abducting her. “
theres also plenty of stories where he equates rapist to inhuman monsters and does nothing about the people (like the birds of prey) who do murder them
i think batman’s biggest error is his inconsistent writing and bad faith interpretations rather than his methods. 
“You and I both know its a bad faith argument to say people want Bruce to murder mentally ill individuals. Maybe you could try to actually meet people with compassion and understanding and try to talk to people about their issues with comics. You may find a compromise. For example I think a lot of people would not care about the whole killing not killing thing if DC let the heroes actually rehabilitate villains and have it stick or provided better safety for civilians so that it was more elaborate thefts and less mass murder when it came to Batman stories.” 
okay again this whole argument is about fun silly comic drawing about characters soooo 
anyways yea I agree- we’ve seen a lot of success with harley quinn in relation to this. I think dc should start writing actual interesting stories about bruce that doesn’t paint him as absolutely terrible person/father. cause its a disservice to his character and the legacy of that character. 
if i was writting for dc theres a couple of things i would do! the joker needs to be fixed- his character is all over the place and im tired of it being written off as him being a twitsed cycle path-its boring. We the audience shouldn’t want the joker to die, and we should feel the same weight and guilt bruce does when faced with jason’s anger. i think making harley quinn an anti-hero is a step in the right direction ESPECIALLY if she was a villian villian (just as bad/worse than the joker himself) before. if we see a person finally take the chance that the batman gives them. Rehabilitation over death-theres always a chance. if one bad day can turn you into a villian one good one turn you into a hero. etc etc etc
on a more philosophical note- this whole discussion is really about what justice IS. and what it ISNT.
contrapoints (i know she has had controversies but not to due with this particular topic and i find she does a good job articulating her point but pls keep any biases she might or might not have when watching) has a video about justice that i would really recommend. 
ANYWAYS WHAT PART ABPUT NOT STARTING DISCOURSE DID YOU NOT GET ANONNNN HUHHHHHH
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sweatertheman · 5 months
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sorry if this is passive agressive but could you stop saying how bad homestuck is on other people’s posts
sorry, i dont mean it to come off like i think homestuck is some awful thing. i just like participating in discourse about it because i have a lot to say. my take isnt even that homestuck is bad, exactly, moreso that it is its own worst enemy, that the things that make it "homestuck," its smug nihilistic perspective, its ungodly length and confusing lore, these are all things which limit homestuck. if someone says they don't know what homestuck is, im taking that as them implicitly asking what it is. given that its an open question, i feel like i have the right to share my thoughts. its okay for me to be critical of homestuck, and i dont want my thoughts about it to hamper anyone's enjoyment of it. its okay to like homestuck. i enjoyed reading what i read. i just cant say the comic is good. im not going to show up on a post where someone says homestuck is good and say "lol homestuck is bad and ur dumb" because neither of those things are true, kind, or useful for discussion. but if someone is inviting discussion of homestuck, i will feel free to participate, unless they explicitly say they dont want to hear critical opinions about homestuck.
and dont worry, you arent coming off as passive-aggressive. the most i can say is that i dont see how what i did was wrong, but i do apologize if it upset you, since im not trying to upset anyone.
i wouldnt want to tag my posts with like, "homestuck hater" or anything, because that just isnt true. im very critical of it, but i cant deny that it displays immense talent. my only problem with this comic is the world-ending scale and the shitty composition of the elements that make it up. the 8000 pages of clashing tones and ideas and too many ideas. taken on its own, nearly every idea is good. its just too much. also, andrew hussie seems to have a habit of rambling on and on about nothing. he does it in his emails too.
all this to say, im sorry, but no, i dont want to stop. if it helps though, i can try to phrase my rants better so that they dont come across like i hate the comic or anything.
thanks for taking the time to reach out, btw.
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mayakern · 4 years
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Hi Maya! I’ve been a fan of your work for sometime now so know this question comes from a good place. I like your novel Spitfire but I also wonder, especially in light of discussion surrounding white writers writing POV BIPOC characters, how you feel about that? For context, there’s been an overall consensus that white people should not write BIPOC POVs because they do not have the experiences and it’s incredibly difficult to be a BIPOC telling your own stories without white people taking those perspectives from you. I hope this doesn’t feel like I’m calling you out but I’ve just noticed many of your POVs are non-white (idk their intended race/ethnicity) and are wondering how you mitigate that.
im not sure where youve seen this consensus reached because it is different from what i have seen. in my understanding, it is bad when white writers try to write stories about experiencing racism or where racism is the main conflict, especially from the POV of BIPOC — which is something i agree with.
and there has been a large call for more BIPOC in all levels of publishing, because even as more BIPOC are being published (and often paid disgustingly less than their white counterparts), the behind the scenes roles — editors, agents, etc. — and especially the roles with a certain measure of authority are predominantly white, which is part of why clumsily whitesplained racism books get published in the first place. 🤷‍♀️
the point of being mindful in the content of your writing isn’t to say “you’re this so you’re not allowed to write anything else” — it’s being conscientious about claiming proficiency (and therefor a certain amount of ownership) in a subject and a history that is not yours to hold. and when you write something intimately or make it the crux of your book, you are pretty much claiming some amount of knowledge/ownership of the subject. but if we barred people from writing POV characters based on any sort of identity, then book casts would get VERY homogenous very quickly.
ofc, this is just my understanding of the matter. i am white and also not at all a practiced writer, so i generally try not to weigh in on these topics. spitfire is my first venture into longform prose and even when i made comics, i did so entirely self-published and so am not necessarily on the cutting edge of book discourse.
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wickedpact · 3 years
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thank you for the wonderful comfort with the old guard post. i am feeling emotionally a little better however i now have cramps 😔 (which honestly explains the emotional roller coaster of the past week)
i’ve see a lot of posts about tales through time and part of me wants to read it just to be able to enjoy new tog content but at the same time i know it won’t be like the movie and i’ve also sen that there’s some discourse surrounding it and i just want to remain away from that tbh.
in other news/concepts. tog fam playing games. specifically- video games. do you think that it’s nile who introduces the fam to video games or do u think they had previous knowledge/perhaps even experience with video games. i’m just picturing them playing like shooter games. nicky would either be infuriatingly good or TERRIBLE at it (it would be so funny if he’s just. completely terrible at it.) i feel like joe would be SUPER into video games. oh you know that co-op cooking game? i wanna see the fam play that. -2ta
honestly tales thru time has more or less the same problems all the other tog comics had/have (and of course those problems vary in intensity, all media has flaws!)  so. . .. the discussion is honestly very . circular. and not fun.
nile definitely knows video games If At Least by virtue of having a teenage brother. booker has an iphone in the comics so i like to imagine hes a candy crush expert. now im wondering if they would like call of duty esque games bc Violence Without The Guilt or if they would dislike them bc We Dont Need More Violence In Our Lives Dammit Nile, Let Me Play Minecraft
(at least one of them would go hard for minecraft tbh)
nicky being a w f  u l at shooter games and everyone gives him endless shit for it. yes good. & u say co-op cooking game and i immediately think of overcooked? which, YES love that, love that FOR them, either they are TERRIFYINGLY good at it or hilariously bad at it for people who have known and worked together for centuries
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la5t-res0rt · 4 years
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Wanted to ask about beetlelyds, sorry, I thought it was technically cannon? Like in the old comics after the show ended she grew up and married him. Sorry I’m an old school fan and have no idea why this whole thing is such a big deal. Wasn’t the actor like 20 too? I’m sorry if I sound very dumb. I’m not used to this new tumblr.
youre fine you are one hundred percent allowed to especially when you do it civilly as you have done here
first of all the biggest issue faced in the whole what is and is not canon debate is the fact that there are three (four if you count the limited comics run) publicized iterations of my media
i will go over each very briefly just kidding this is going to a long answer so i will spare the dashboard with a readmore
there is the movie which im sure you dont need me to explain the plot since youre an old school fan but basically the climax is that yes beetlejuice does go for the marriage angle in exchange for stopping the exorcism of adam and barbara and his motive for this is so that he can cause as much chaos as he wants on the mortal coil but his plan is thwarted when barbara rides a sandworm into the house which promptly eats beetlejuice sending him to bureaucratic death limbo
the end of the movie features the deetz and the maitlands happily living together with lydia havign a new appreciation for her situation and beetlejuice gets his head made real small which is very funny haha 
so no in the movie they are not canon editors note the actress who played lydia winona ryder was a teenager while filming the movie she turned 17 the year it released 
the next is the cartoon which i will admit has the most grounds for being considered canon but in the end the show is about a middle schooler and her best friend who is a ghost which in itself is a pretty iffy gray area sort of thing but for a childrens cartoon to work a friendship is better than the obvious enemy status they held in the movie
anyway in the cartoon they are potrayed to be very close friends with lydia being the person beetlejuice cares about the most and honestly if you were to watch it with no prior knowledge of the media and if you ignored their massive and obvious age difference than yeah you probably would read it as a romantic relationship 
however lydia is a middle schooler and that is simply immoral
there have been writers for the cartoon who have been credited to say that a relationship is what they were trying to invoke but for obvious reasons they couldnt exactly move forward with that angle with them establishing that lydia is a child in middle school and a fully grown adult man dating a child who is in middle school is immoral and also illegal in the united states and in canada 
this isnt a good argument for whether or not something is canon and i will tell you why with one simple name and that is luke weber
if you dont know who luke weber is he was a storyboard artist on the cartoon steven universe he is known for making a lot of self ship artwork of him and the character pearl
he worked on the show isnt his material canon no of course it isnt it wasnt put in the actual publication and also if memory serves he was eventually asked to leave the project after he drew art of the shows creator giving him permission to date pearl and calling them her otp and a lot of fans hated this because the most generally accepted interpretation of pearls character is that she is sapphic so a lot of people took issue however that again is just a widely perceived headcanon it is never stated what her actual sexuality is no one in that show is because it isnt a show about that its about wait im getting off topic sorry
what im saying is what can truly be considered canon is what you see on the screen and with the cartoon they are definitely the most friendly with each other and that is why so many people in the beetlebabe shipping community take so much stock in the cartoon because it is the easiest to read the relationship between the mas romantic although that is not what the show actually provides in black and white terms
interpretation does not equal canon and in this case no matter what anyone says the fact remains that in the cartoon itself they are friends good friends yes but friends all the same
it is definitely not a show about a grown man grooming an adult and if it were you definitely shouldn’t be stanning it the extreme because grooming a minor is wrong and it is apparently a problem in the fandom
anyway if the cartoon and the movie are both products of their time and there was more leniency on content bear in mind this was the same era as notorious animation powerhouse and known predator john k who was a showrunner on ren and stimpy and he maintained a relationship with a teenager which was an open secret that nobody really took issue with because in that time being a woman in the animation industry was tricky business and your career could be ended easily if you rejected advances luckily time has moved forward and the animation industry although still full of problems of a similar nature at least people are getting called out and punished for it
you can look more into that yourself its really upsetting though
as for comics i havent been able to find good scans of them and im not willing to purchase them but in my search i never found anything about the two of them ever being married in the cartoon again because she is a child i did find a cover where he appears to be getting married and hes asking lydia to get him out of it but im not sure where the comic actually goes all i know is she is standing off to the side shrugging and looking like she doesnt really care
anyway that brings us to the musical which is set in the modern day 
in the original libretto lydia is described as thirteen but since they got an actress who was older in the updated librettos she is listed as 15 and the story is pretty similar to the movie the young girl befriends ghosts and they try to scare her family out etc etc
the major difference between the film and the musical are that lydia and beetlejuice are more like friends like in the cartoon 
she summons him to help scare after the maitlands attempt doesnt really work so he shows up and they have fun terrorizing people together however she drops him for the opportunity to perhaps get her mom back but when no one will help she goes back to beetlejuice who tricks her into almost exorcising barbara
she agrees to marry him in order to stop the exorcism and he only wants to get married so he can be alive again and cause problems on the mortal coil like in the movie in the musical he states several times its a green card thing whihc obviously doesnt make it okay but still
anyway lydia tricks him and runs off into the underworld before the wedding can happen blah blah blah she goes back blah blah and she agrees to go through with the wedding to save her friends and family with a plan to make him go away for good
theres a very tongue and cheek song called creepy old guy which points out how wrong the whole thing is but everyone is going along with it in a very comedic matter and it includes the line 
i cant believe some cultures think this kind of things alright
basically saying yeah this is very very wrong anyway they do get married and beeltjeuice is alive for like 6 seconds before lydia stabs him to death with bad art and he dies thus nullifying the marriage because death do you part etc
so in the musical no at the end of the show they are not canon because he is dead their marriage is nullified and they go their separate ways
anyway sorry about that i just need to make it very clear that these three properties are all very distinct from each other and basically all three are indeed canon since they are publicized material and arguing the validity of which one is pointless editors note all actresses who played with the exception of dana steingold were minors for the majority of their runs as lydia with sophia ann caruso the originator of the role turning 18 during the run and dana being in her late twenties presley ryan however was a minor the whole time and still is one
tldr no they aren’t canon but to the credit of some people in this fandom their interpretation isnt too far of a stretch thanks to the era and some of the writers wishing to imply a relationship between an adult and a child
i also need to address how this is all a big deal and i suggest you take a peak through my discourse tag and check out @leedia‘s blog to see some of the more harmful things done by beetlebabe shippers
the beetlejuice fandom is home to many minors after the musical came out since musical fandom is vast and the ages of its members varies and normalizing pedophilia is harmful to them not to mention the people who have been effected by sexual harassment at the hands of adults
both sides have victims of csa but one side continues to perpetuate the cycle by showing time and time again that this behavior is normal and easily romanticized in the name of coping and literally anyone who has ever been to a good and credible therapist could tell you that posting cp even if it is simulated cp isnt a really good way to cope and you can get mad at me for saying that its totally fine but and im going to remove my character veil here for just a second as a csa survivor myself i think its harmful to not only myself but many others ok the veil is back down
tldr again there is a lot of bullying and harassment going on with both sides having their own issues but there is one side whos issues run a bit deeper in my humble opinion 
thank you for your question it allowed me to talk a lot you are welcome to discuss further with me in dms if you wish i honestly recommend giving the musical a listen because it is very fun and despite what some people say its very clever and if you get a chance to see a boot of it its visually stunning
one last note that i couldnt really fit in here but a large portion of the beetlebabes shipping community ignore the musical because it openly condemns the idea of beeltejuice and lydia having a relationship and a lot of the antis take issue with much of the writing and characterizations of the cartoon just a note that i think is important since were talking about canon
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honeylikewords · 6 years
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(P1) The pilgrim thing got me really disappointed!! Because they LITERALLY SAID!!! HE WAS GONNA BE FIGHTING A*T-RIGHT PEOPLE THIS SEASON!!!! I feel like this is a big let down to a lot of the people who were looking forward to frank, a character who is commonly misconstrued as an a*t-right figure himself to deny that once and for all, namely the fans who belong to minority groups (myself included) as well as the issue with the last I know they were doing it as a little easter egg by
(P2) recreating that one image from the comics but they could have put it in a better situation because a)those criminals were in fact rather young and the fact that the perfectly fit the "thug" stereotype is iffy at BEST. Because it also brings up something that was talked about in luke cage/defenders (a character I mcfrikken love) that black boys who are just trying to feed their family end up getting killed/beaten within an inch of their life meanwhile the white vigilante gets off free
(P3) (I know I'm writing a lot I apologize but m feeling heated ab thjs) because truly they looked roughly the same age as Amy. I will say I enjoyed his brotherly jokes with curtis (shout out to that man for dealing with his dumbass and not killing him for all the stress he causes him akdjsk) and the times he showed true care and softness (ie ACTUAL FRANK CHARACTERIZATION) towards amy. Im also iffy about the fact that he let a guy who peddles child porn go? S2 of dd he killed a dude doing that
Okay, first of all, don’t worry about apologizing, it’s TOTALLY fine to be heated about this. The media we consume is reflective of the thoughts and beliefs of the people creating it, and can influence the thoughts and beliefs of the people consuming it. As such, we SHOULD be heated about the content we see and create; it has impact and influence, and it matters that we call out issues when we see them, and remain intensely scrutinous of what we’re being shown. No need to be ashamed of that.
Second, I’m going to answer each point or comment made here in list format, just to try and keep things organized. Because it’d be really easy for me to spin out and start ranting, and I want to keep this cohesive and legible.
1) The letting Pilgrim live thing was just... so unimaginably stupid. They talked about him being a major antagonist and yet he played no important role in the series at all. From a functional, story-based level, the entire Pilgrim-Schultzes plot needed to be cut. It was convoluted, unnecessary, and wasteful, while also managing to be confusing and just flat out boring. Pilgrim wasn’t even an interesting character! He was just a waste of screentime! The two plots of Billy and Pilgrim were always fighting for attention, and it distracted from the linear progression of the show.
But on a more fundamental and moral level, it was also just... so, so bad to display him as an alt-r*ght neo-N*zi and just... let him live. As if he had an excuse. As if he was “equitable” to Frank because his weird little Christian fundamentalist wife died and he had two kids (off topic, but Lemuel is a horrible name).  As if I was supposed to feel bad for him. As if I was supposed to sympathize with him, pity him. I don’t. And if I, a pacifist, soft-hearted, “forgiveness freely given” girl wouldn’t pity him, why on earth would a man like Frank?
It’s ridiculous. It’s shameful. Any piece of media that tries to “humanize” N*zis in a way where they are portrayed as sympathetic and “just people following orders” is disgusting. A N*zi chooses hate. A N*zi chooses bigotry. There is no mistake there, no human folly. That is choice and it is unforgivable. Pilgrim deserved to die, and that’s all I have to say about it.
2) I recognized that as a scene from the comics, an icon of Punisher-ing, but... You’re really, really right, and that’s something that worries me about Punisher and its fanbase. I’ve been stepping away from Punisher because I think it’s starting to cross the line into that territory; white vigilantism is, in many ways, a dangerous game to play, and when we start to romanticize white men with guns taking the law into their own hands and mowing down “thugs” (who, you are right to say, are usually just poor POC who are trying to make ends meet), we start walking a razor thin line.
Frank Castle in DD S2 was... different. This new Frank, this Punisher Frank? I don’t like him. And I don’t like what he stands for. Not anymore.
And I think the issue is that people like the idea of this big, bad white man with the guns calling all the shots, literal and metaphorical. And that scares me. Frank Castle is supposed to protect these infringed people, supposed to protect the downtrodden and oppressed. When he becomes a symbol and tool of that oppression, things get ugly, and things go wrong.
We can’t just excuse the inherent issues in something like Punisher just because we like Jon. I know I can’t. I have to ask these questions because they matter, and because it matters to me and to hundreds of thousands of other people who have to live with the fact that there is a chance that they could be shot down like that for no reason other than because someone decides their life doesn’t matter as much as, let’s say, a white one.
I know it sucks to bring politics into something we enjoy, but it also sucks that people have to deal with the real-life consequences of these issues. And it sucks that people see this show and idealize it, romanticize it, idolize the violence and the wickedness and the idea that they should be able to hold the scales of justice on their own and decide who matters based on their own personal whims.
The race discussion is very real with Punisher, and it’s a discussion we need to be having. We need to look at this critically and we need to see that, yes, there’s some very, very bad problems and some glaring issues. And we need to be honest about that, preferences all set aside.
3) Curtis Hoyle is a f*cking saint and deserves a break. He deserves it. (Also, what is going on with the show that they? Seemed to forget he has a prosthetic? He was leaping around and doing all manner of stunts as if he had both legs. Like... guys.)
4) Dad Frank was the only good thing about this season. Fight me.
5) The child p*rn thing upset me, too. I guess we’re supposed to infer that Frank is “growing” and not just killing whomever he pleases, and supposed to infer that he listens to Amy and wants to please her and not upset her, but... then he, like, murders anyone anytime anywhere after that. It seemed like they only showed the “growth” away from the urge to kill when it suited them, and it seems it only suited with regards to some of the lowest, most disgusting people ever.
Like, Frank takes the shot and kills Billy without even letting Billy say his final, dying words (which seemed to be an apology in the making?), but holds back from killing Pilgrim just because Pilgrim said “wait” and “I have sons”? Bullshit. Pilgrim and that child p*rn man should have died. End of discussion.
In the end, I guess I’d sum it up this way: Punisher season two lacks conviction. It wants to present the argument that things with Frank are complicated, but complicated just ends up coming across as nonsensical. Nothing about the show makes sense, there is no clear character development, every action is seemingly at random, and the plot is jumbled. The show can’t stick to anything without changing its mind, retconning itself into nothingness.
But worse yet are the implications of this jumbled mess; humanizing N*zis and white s*premacists, advocating the brutal violence of a white man with a gun as his own lawless lawmaker, and just a sort of devil-may-care attitude about what it means to be someone with power and exerting that over people who don’t stand a chance.
I have a lot of complaints, but I think, mostly, I’m just disappointed and sad. Frank deserves better than this. We deserve better than this.
We deserve heroes who will fight for what’s right. This Frank seemed to hardly know what on earth it was he was fighting for. And that makes me really, really frustrated.
(D/o/n’t r/e/b/lo/g, I don’t wanna get into any discourse, thnx)
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androgynousblackbox · 5 years
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ok so the kenders situation is VERY complcated but i am extremely informed about it. people (or at least the people im following) aren't angry that kenders wanted to write a story about a 20 and 16 year old, we're angry because kenders is an homophobe (who created his only gay character because he was socially awkward and claimed asexuals didn't exist, claimed to be an ally for the lgbt+ community but did i whole story arc basically saying heteresexuality saves generations gay relationship 1/2
2/2 gay relationships stop them at thats bad, pretty much every single of characters is straight) so the issue is he'll rather write yet another het story with unfortunate implication rather than just making a gay character. also his story telling techniques suck and tried to sue sega for 'stealing his sonic ideas' it's just people who are tired of kenders shit (so am i) and are tired of everything he's done. theres more to this story but it would take fucking years to explainI am going to be honest with you, anon. I am very wary when people say things like “we aren’t angry because of X, but because of B” because nine out of ten times the people who are angry about B, even if they are absolutely honest about only caring about B and their reasons are good, are in the minority while a big majority are still angry about X. Then the minority end up being used only as more reason for the X to exacerbate all other reasons, even the most petty, little ones, and the whole thing, wether you are annoyed by B or X, ended up being meaningless because the result still is a hate mob where probably someone other than Ken Penders is going to end up hurt. That is how usually these kind of things play out on the internet, unfortunely. Any actual points any side has end up forgotten because the majority still just want to yell about X and then you have people on the other side defending X, also forgettting about any actual good points people on the B argument had. Look how the JK discouse goes, how Twilight is discussed. We suck at discourse here.Now, about those claims, I have no clue at all about the comics, what happens on them or about the characters, so I am going to take your word for it. If you tell me that his stories are not that good in the first place, I believe you. He created a story with a very questionable final message that, unfortunely, has been part of the heternormative world since forever. Like, the idea that the only reason society can advance and continue existing is because of heterosexuality is a old one, a lot of times fuel to advance homophobia. That is bad, no discussion there. If he truly wanted to be an ally for non straight people then he should reexamine those ideas and search to consider non straightness just as essential as heterosexuality. His allyship rings hollow without that self reflection.But this “he'll rather write yet another het story with unfortunate implication rather than just making a gay character” I do not agreed with as a good reason to go against a person. If this is a bad writer, if his stories are crappy, if they are filled with unfortunate implications, why would you want him of all people to give gay people representation? I know for a fact that I do not want Stephenie Meyer attempting to make gay romances on the same way she already writes her het ones. There are good queer authors out there who make queer content every day. There are plenty of queer comic artist, queer filmmakers, queer writers, queer artist. So much gay. Even some content from non queer authors that is still good and comes from a genuine place of empathy and understanding. Why not give them more support and recognition instead of keep expecting something out of non queer authors that they aren’t willing to give anyway? If they want to keep making straight content forever and ever, with queer people being an after thought, if they appear at all, they are allowed to do that. There is no law saying they can’t. Just like we are allowed to not give them support, don’t buy their product or don’t like them if we don’t feel like it. Either way, I think queer people are going to be fine.And like, maybe the people you follow have some legit reason sto be angry at him and this was the last draw that broke camel’s back or something, but what I am seeing on twitter right now is a bunch of people calling him creepy, nasty, disgusting, calling him a pedophile, calling pedophile anyone who doesn’t accuse him of a pedophile, comparing him with a autistic trans woman that has suffered incredible amountS of harrasment and ridicule while deadnaming said trans woman, people speculating about what he faps to, people wanting to cancel him, to want him to get out of the internet forever and like... I have probably seen only two tweets even making a light mention of homophobia (and one of them was kinda questionable for me) while still talking about the problematic pairing that, again, was never canon in the first place. Or about the character that is 16, had sex before and none of that was never mentioned on the comics either, only on his tweets, that any fan is totally free to ignore if they want anyway.So, right now, as it stands? I don’t look forward how this is going to advance. I don’t think this is going to end well.He is a bad writer, a bad artist that has some homophobic tendencies he should work out. Probably has an ego problem too, for what I read. Probably unprofessional if I understood the sueing thing correctly. Not the worst thing I have seen.
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