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marsixm · 7 months
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big spoiler cw for the finale- i understand why a lot of people didnt feel like it made sense for how ed was acting during izzy’s death scene, like it didn’t feel earned or whatever bc they’d been at odds w each other since last season, but for me, and understand i’m not saying my personal experience making it make sense for me is trying to give undue writing cred or whatever, but i had a very difficult relationship with my very transphobic/bigoted mother. she made my life a nightmare a lot of the time. but i had to care for her in death. i had to watch her die for months. it was a waking nightmare, and it had a profound effect on me. it was complicated. it made my relationship to my memory of her very complicated. (and even if it hadnt been a months long ordeal i was caught in the middle of i’d probably still feel similarly) and that’s how ed dealing with izzy’s death feels to me. just like him having to kill his father, it was the right thing to do, but it still left him with difficult emotions. when ed says “you’re the only family i’ve got left” to izzy, after all the bullshit they put each other through, i get it.
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shijiujun · 3 years
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Hi! Thank you for tagging your shl spoilers. If you can, could you also do it for the asks you receive? Sometimes people seem ask you about future episodes/scenes and I'd like to avoid it as much as possible. That would be much appreciated!
heya! thanks for asking really nicely and i’ll try my best - but honestly i only put spoilers tags on ‘spoilery’ asks if it involves a major character death or details on the ending etc.
sometimes i answer a lot of asks at a go, answer asks on my way to work on half asleep when i get out of bed and it is inevitable that at some point it’ll more likely slip my mind than not, especially if i’m answering what i view as a simple detail
also because all the eps have come out subbed as well etc., it’s really hard for me to keep track of what actually is a spoiler or if it’s been watched by who, especially with the broadcast schedule all out of whack right now. i keep them for on for new gifsets from new eps for at least a week-ish or a few days maybe now that the eps are all gonna be subbed
when i answer details on certain asks i dont even remember which eps they’re from sometimes? and i think at the end of the day it’s a lot of effort to wonder about whether something would constitute as a spoiler or not for e.g. if someone asks me if wkx is a ghost again, or what someone is saying or doing in a particular ep, or if the show ends happy. 
yes i could label them all as spoilers but i really have never had that habit or tagging system for asks - and if i do that i’ll have to think about doing that for my regular posts discussing whether tyk or shl has a happy ending or not etc. and.. yep i’ve never had this tagging system really! i only make exceptions for trigger warnings :D
so oops sorry what i meant is i dont have a habit of tagging each of my asks, they’re hard to keep track by now like who has seen what or who hasn’t seen what i think and unfortunately, my blog is not spoiler free as i’ve mentioned multiple times before! thanks for asking really nicely but all i can promise is i will put spoiler tags on bad ending details if any as i’ve always done, pretty good with warning for character death especially XD 
if it truly bothers you, please feel free to unfollow entirely and come back if and whenever you feel like it! it’s probably going to be a mad house all the way until the week of the finale ends haha or even longer - it’ll definitely be easier for you to curate your dash and viewing experiences on your side! thanks for understanding <3
but but but, i’ll try - legit, i’ll try, but knowing myself and it’s been proven with all the typos and terrible out of sequence gifsets i post, that i will forget at least a few times, if not half the time
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lassieposting · 4 years
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Do you have a HC on angel/demon bodies in the Lucifer universe? Like, it seems that the goddess never her own physical body based on what Maze said about when she was in hell. And we know that demons possess humans, but do you think they have their own bodies as well? If they have their own do they leave them behind when possessing? Do you think Maze’s form is her own or did Lucifer allow her to possess a recently deceased human so that she could accompany him to Earth? What about angels?
oh my god i have so many thoughts on this i dont even know how to structure this post, literally this is me rn
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ok so, starting with the celestials
GOD
I’m not gonna elaborate too much on God, because I’m in the middle of writing a fic which elaborates on how I see his body/physical shape working and it would spoil a twist. But a few non-spoilery thoughts: 
- God and Goddess are completely different species, from different universes
- God is - as far as he knows - the last of his kind. The universe he was born in was destroyed by a massive war; his species are naturally peaceful and he had no part in it. 
- His species are immensely powerful; he can cross between universes with ease as an adult, and the ability to create universes is a species talent, not an individual one. They can all do it. They live for billions upon billions of years in deep space, so that’s how they pass the time. 
- He’s naturally telepathic. Goddess is not at all, and the angels inherit this from him but only to a very minor degree - they can sense when another angel is in the area, but can’t actually perceive one another’s thoughts. 
- He doesn’t originally look like us. Not in the slightest. But changing his shape is very easy for him, and he is capable of “modifying” his own internal biology, so he can and does choose to take a human shape - having hands with which to manipulate objects is useful when you’re no longer living in deep space, and being able to communicate verbally is useful when you’re the only major telepath in your (very large) family. 
 GODDESS
- Goddess does have a solid, physical form, and she actually has our basic shape too. “Two arms, two legs, a head and a body to hang them on” is a popular evolutionary route in her native universe. 
- Humans and demons, however, don’t have the right eye equipment to see her properly. Humans see in three dimensions, demons in one or two more, but neither species has enough perceivable dimensions or colours to actually make sense of Goddess’ true form. We see her as a blur of light, because that’s all of her that’s visible to us. We’re actually only able to see like, 30% of her and it makes our brains freak out some. 
- Lucifer knows this, but neglected to mention it to Maze when she was torturing Goddess in Hell. He did nothing to defend her when God kicked her out, because he’s smarting over her abandoning him, but at the end of the day she’s his mom and he loves her. He’s the only one in Hell who can see her properly and interact with her physical form, and there’s no way he’s going to actively participate in his mother’s torture. 
THE ANGELS
Now, I believe “canon” says that the angels were created as adults, but fuck that, because baby angels. 
- The angels were created with wings, but they don’t get their first feathers until they’re toddling, so they’re like weird little naked birds for a bit. 
- They moult every few hundred years while they’re still growing, and they don’t get sharp primaries until they have their adult feathers. Once they’re fully grown, they won’t moult again, but they’ll grow new feathers if the ones they have fall out or are damaged. 
- No one actually knows how long their lifespans are. No angel has ever died of natural causes. But they’re long. The angels Chloe knows are archangels, the oldest, and even though they’re physically full-grown adults they’re barely out of celestial puberty. Tom Ellis plays Lucifer as having the emotional maturity and worldview of a teenager. Amenadiel is the overtired early-20-something having to live away from home for the first time. 
- Their abilities are genetic - they were born with them and have a chance of passing them on to any nephilim they create - and they start manifesting around the toddler stage. 
- The toddler stage is fun, actually. Way worse than the terrible twos for humans. Their first set of feathers come in which is itchy, they’re teething, they can talk enough to be defiant, they’re climbing up/falling off everything, their powers start developing, they’re clingy, and the tantrums are spectacular. 
meanwhile, in hell
in my headcanon, hell is home to three classes of demons:
ELDRITCH DEMIGODS
- the oldest, most dangerous and rarest creatures in Hell. They did not create the dimension Hell is located in, but they did shape the landscape and were the original rulers of the dimension.
- the original users of what demons call magic. lucifer learned some of this during his time in hell - illusions, levitating his pentecostal coin, his desire ability, the fine art of binding someone with a deal and get yourself out of any situation with a loophole. 
- the eldritches feature prominently in my fic but have absolutely nothing (as far as I know) to do with canon - the only reason I’m including them here is because my personal headcanon is that Lucifer’s angelic gift is his light. His “hypno eye thing” is something he learned while he was in Hell. he wasn’t lying with what he said to chloe - it’s a gift from a god, but not a gift from his father, god. 
HELLBORN DEMONS
- these demons have no human DNA at all. 
- they’re older than the lilim, and more physically powerful, but they’re less adept at magic (glamours, for example) and mind games. 
- hellborn demons look nothing like humans. they might not be bipedal at all; leviathan is a giant sea serpent. spines, extra jaws, multiple sets of teeth, a ridiculous number of limbs, too many or too few joints, no eyes at all, exoskeletons etc are all perfectly normal demon traits.  
- those that have eyes are red, yellow or black. my hc of hell is inspired by the very deep ocean though, so it’s just as common to have no eyes and a superior sense of smell, or electroreception, or sonar, instead. 
- they can learn to glamour, but they still wouldn’t look right. there would be something subtly off about them, something in the mind of any human looking at them screaming at them to run. they’re the basis of those horror stories where someone looks just a little wrong; they don’t blink enough, or seem to have too many teeth, or they walk wrong. 
- they’re more durable than lilim demons. short of a celestial, an eldritch or a bomb, nothing stops these fuckers. they can come back from insane injuries that would absolutely kill most life forms. if you leave one critically injured but don’t finish it off and make sure, chances are it won’t die. it’ll crawl off and recuperate and come back for you later. 
THE LILIM
- the lilim are the descendents of lilith and, as such, they have human DNA. the closer their link to lilith, the more human they appear - maze, for example, is almost entirely human in appearance except for one half of her face. the more distant the link to lilith, the less human DNA they have, and the less human they appear. 
- really common lilim traits: claws, fangs, scales, horns
- almost all lilim have the human body shape and facial features arrangement, so they’re bipedal with two eyes, a nose and a single mouth. yellow, red and black are all pretty standard demon eye colours, but lilith’s eyes are white and her children tend to inherit them. the more diluted her blood gets, the less likely a child will have her white eyes.
- with practice, the lilim can glamour their demon features and pass undetected among humans, unless they choose to reveal their real face.  their physical strength, speed and heightened senses remain the same even under a glamour. 
- because of their human ancestry, lilim demons don’t need to possess a dead human body. but it’s a lot more convenient. to leave Hell in your own body, you need to a) leave through the front gate and b) have a way of generating enough energy to shunt you across the divide between dimensions. for maze, this was lucifer; he carried her out of Hell. but she can’t return (or get out) without him. God, Goddess or any of the eldritch abominations would also have that level of power. 
- plus, like. with a dead human body, you can take as much damage as you like or commit as many atrocities as you fancy and just change your body when you’re done. you don’t need to be careful of injury or worry about sustenance. and you don’t have to compete with anyone else in the same head, which is a vast improvement over possessing someone living.
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fialleril · 7 years
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Anabasis replies
Rather than reblogging my Anabasis snippet post multiple times with replies, I figured I’d do a single separate post, so here you go.
Since the snippet was spoilery, the replies are too, so here’s a cut just in case anyone is avoiding spoilers.
@w3-4r3-th3-f1r3 said in tags:
anything that you hesitate to destroy is a chain   AAAAAH   but i am Unfettered    hoky shit  i have chills  this is everything i ever wanted  oh ly god oh my god  and it really is perfect for passover even with the touches of vengeance as a way to gain freedom   i love this so much  anakin  darth vader  i love him  fialleril's vaderkin is so...just powerful and real i guess but i honestly love him i aspire to be just like him one day  amazing fic is amazing  cannot wait  CANNNOT DI THE WAITING NOOOO  anabasis is going to be so fucking cool  aaaaaaaaa
Oh gosh, thank you! I’m delighted that it resonates with Passover. (Eventually there will be a full Bentu Depuraak celebration in Anabasis, but that’s still a ways down the line, both in terms of the story line and where I am in writing it.) Also I’m really glad Anakin feels real here. :)
@themoosejthm said:
#I LIVE AND BREATHE FOR THIS  #ANAKIN DESTROYED THE SITH  #BY DESTROYING EVERY LAST BIT OF KNOWLEDGE  #KNOWLEDGE THAT HIS MASTER GATHERED AND HOARDED  #I LOVE IT   
:D I’m not even gonna pretend there’s not a bit of personal wish fulfillment for me in there, but I am glad you enjoyed this gleeful bit of destruction.
Also because I love irony: Anabasis is the one universe I have where Anakin straight up fulfills the prophecy of the Chosen One in exactly the way the Jedi interpret it, but they never notice because as far as they’re concerned he’s a Sith himself.
(Well, Dooku may have a borderline heretical personal theory, but everybody knows Dooku has been flirting with heresy for years and nobody really takes his theories seriously.)
@cthulhu-with-a-fez said:
 HOOOOOOOOOOO BOY   WELCOME _BACK_ FIALLERIL  I KNOW ON ONE HAND GOOD SENSE SAYS TO STEER CLEAR OF ANYTHING WITH A BIG OLD SPOILER LABEL ON IT  BUT ON THE OTHER HAND FIALLERIL FIC IS TOO GOOD TO IGNORE  oh man it's just   [wipes away tear] it's so beautiful  i don't even have the full context but i am wholeheartedly in support of anything that falls under the banner of '@PALPATINE GET REKT'    that was _so satisfying to read_    i mean there's a very small voice in the back of my head that says 'destroying knowledge is Bad'   and that even sithly knowledge could have some uses    if only to better understand what they were up against   but on the other hand GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE??? GOODBYE   and oh man anakin vs jedi council content??? I LIVE FOR THAT TOO   i'm finding i have a massive fucking soft spot for characters who take the skills forced onto them in an effort to control them   and instead using them to break the chains   i mean i only have like. two characters of those at the moment. maybe three. but STILL    GOOD _SHIT_   sometimes i think to myself 'i'm about as hype for anabasis as i can get'    and then i read whatever snippet you post and somehow i get EVEN MORE HYPE 
Ha ha thank you friend. :) I figured after such a long absence I should at least try to make up for it.
Tbh your internal monologue is probably a lot like Jocasta’s. On the one hand GET REKT PALPS is an attitude she’s very sympathetic to, and she’s seen enough of Anakin to realize that there’s an importance here beyond simply the destruction of the Sith. And given that the Jedi known for a fact there are surviving Inquisitors who were looking for those holocrons, it probably is for the best that they will never get their hands on them now.
But even so, Jocasta is a librarian, and that was a lot of information that just went up in smoke. Irreplaceable information. Which, okay, might be a good thing, but...so much information!
@lightningandstarlight said:
scREAMING over how awesome this is!!!!     you sure know how to come back with a bang dont you fia?     Dinsa is there!!! Dorme is awesome!!!! the Jedi are clueless as usual!!!! Palps goes down in flames!!!!     the sith holocrons are destroyed in a fitting fashion!!!     (which that description anakin gives about how palps trained him to be a weapon but that was enough to destory them killed me!!!)     the padme point of view that showed the trust and love between her and anakin!!!     the anakin pov where he runs circles around the jedi and knows how to get under their skin     the politics the unnerving smile the jokes the dorme badassness the unfettered the flashbacks the revenge on palps     this short was so satisfying to read that i now want twenty more     how do you know how to wreck me so good fia?!?!? 
I’m glad you like it! :) And this gives me something to look forward to when you get to this point in beta reading.
Also I am so glad you like Dorme! She’s a fairly minor character in this (sadly), but she’s one of those minor characters I have reams of headcanon and background info for, so it’s nice to know some of that comes out in glimpses in the actual fic. In this universe she’s Padme’s security chief and it’s an immensely difficult and largely thankless job. She’s beyond Done at this point.
In other news writing Anakin engaging with politics is weirdly fun.
And on that note...
@grand-duc said:
EEEEEEH!
Fic!
Anabasis fic!
Anakin is so very proud of himself here, it’s a delight to read. And I love how his people all rally to protect him, even though he’s just proved he doesn’t need it.
“So,” said Windu. “You don’t know the location of the Sith library.”
Anakin smiled brightly at him. “I didn’t when you asked me so politely before.”
The Jedi exchanged brief, nervous glances, all but Dooku and Nu, who looked openly confused. Well. That was interesting.
Is someone (or a bunch of someones) about to get busted?
and almost completely unrelated, on the subject of Anakin and politics, you know when you think about it, it wasn’t really in the interests of the power factions in his life for him to have a good grasp of politics in canon.
The Jedi, beside being dangerously detached from the workings of the Republic they played “peacekeeper” for themselves, wanted him to go where they pointed him. If he thought too much about the hows or whys, there was the chance he could come to the “wrong” conclusion and do something “rash”.
And Palpatine, Palpatine enjoyed playing the role of mentor, but he needed Anakin dependent on him and malleable, if anything, he must have been careful about what he let Anakin pick up from him. He certainly wouldn’t have encourage an interest.
Thank you!
Maybe eventually Anakin will get used to the fact that people feel protective of him (because they...genuinely care about him? what a concept), but right now he’s still continually surprised by it, and especially when it’s people who don’t have anything to gain by protecting him. (So to some degree he expects it from his agents, because they work for him. But even now, after everything, Padme is still a surprise.)
We shall see if anyone does get busted. Right now, the Jedi are in the clear mainly because Anakin is actually keeping their secret, which honestly only makes them more nervous. (The secret in question is that they mind-trick-tortured him to learn the location of the holocrons, and little do they know that Anakin hasn’t told anyone mostly because, for him, there’s nothing unusual about “enhanced interrogation” so why would he bring it up?)
As far as Anakin and politics is concerned, I definitely agree with you when it comes to canon. And even in Anabasis, I don’t think Palpatine actually intended Anakin to have much grasp on politics. But Anakin was a smart kid and he picked up more than his Master gave him credit for, largely by osmosis. He saw the way Palpatine handled situations, the way he manipulated people and events, and more importantly he saw the behaviors, ideas, and weaknesses in others that Palpatine was able to manipulate. And he put a lot of things together on his own.
But Palpatine certainly never encouraged Vader to take an interest in politics: that might have made him an actual threat. And Palpatine had no interest in being succeeded as Emperor, by Vader or anyone else.
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bookofmirth · 7 years
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Some more spoilery thoughts on Mor in ACOWAR below from some anon asks - this gets long:
referencing your post about mors sexuality, shes actual gay not bi apparently she only sleeps with men because she tries to cover her tracks or something (so maybe dont do the threesomes since it is pushing her into that box of having to hide which is wrong in my eyes but maybe thats just me) and ive seen multiple posts about mor maybe being gay? and the hints to this in acomaf, i think the user propshophannah has written a few theories to if you want to check those out!! xx
So just for a bit more background, I was spoiled for this info on Saturday. And I was told these circumstances - the “compulsory heterosexuality” (which, come on, did sjm actually write that phrase???), the preferring women but still sleeping with men, etc. I am reserving judgement about her actual sexuality until I have read the books and have more evidence. All I’ve seen so far are general statements via other people’s interpretation, and I’m not interested in seeing any more spoilers without context at this point, which is why I’m out of tumblr (or at least this blog) after today.
I have seen multiple posts about Mor being gay in the last few days. Sounds like pretty convenient timing for people to have headcanons, if you ask me.
I have seen offhand comments about her sexuality over the last few months, but I’ve also seen those comments made in the same breath as support for theories that moriel are in a secret relationship. Which.... doesn’t speak to me about the strength of the evidence for her sexuality. And honestly, the fact that such a huge number of people read their relationship as romantic DOES speak volumes to me. This is why I brought up the POC analogy - you can’t just.... half ass a thing and expect that to be rep.
If you have a huge portion of the people reading a thing in a certain way, that’s the meaning they have derived. Death of the author and all that friends, Roland Barthes was right, sjm can create as much meaning as she wants but we are the ones who interpret the text and interact with it. And the way she wrote ACOMAF and the way that many, many people read this relationship, was romantic, if not sexual. Which means that she did not do an adequate job of establishing Mor’s sexuality. Which makes it feel like she is going back retroactively and making this statement. And I’m leaving all of my Mor/moriel meta up because... I’m not going to delete evidence that shows in how many ways we were NOT meant to read moriel as a platonic friendship.
Agree with you all the way. I think that SJM wanted to have this big WTF "plot twist" but hasn't thought it through. No clue in ACOMAF, nada, zip. It's stated she's had lovers in the past, so what is she, bi? Or was she lying about it her entire life? And couldn't  she at least tell my poor baby Azriel? It's not like she doesn't know he has feelings for her. Anyway, my problem with  this is that it makes one of my fave characters look really, really bad and for what?
Thanks, nonnie. I have been pretty steamed about this for so many reasons, so it’s nice to know I’m not alone. I really don’t like the idea that this is being used as a plot twist. I really hope that’s not what is going on here. Because that would be a shit way to integrate diversity.
I think my biggest problem with the idea that Mor has been hiding her sexuality is if this is supposed to be some kind of statement on “oh look at this shitty patriarchy I hath created, watch as I show you the multiple Problematic Things and make Shitty Situations for with which mine characters may then be Tokens!” In other words, don’t use this shit as a tool to show that you “understand” misogyny and homophobia, thanks.
I was having a conversation with someone else who also thought that this will be more reason for people to hate on Mor, and I soooo despise that fact. If that’s where The Discourse goes, imma be pissed. I may not be moriel defense squad anymore (because I am surprisingly ok with whatever happens there, I don’t want to disappoint Sierra or Kate or Lucia but I’m not going down with this ship, I just want Mor and Az to be happy, together, apart, whatever), but I will always be #Mor defense squad. I am just curious how much Az may know or not know about this. I’m not going to speculate. I’m going to reserve comments on that until I’ve read ACOWAR. I have ideas though, and they would actually support him knowing all along. Which makes her not a bitch. Although I know plenty of people would love to paint her that way.
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