#and that us shippers are just delusional

[starliteonearth]

You know Ghoulcy has become a very serious threat when antis are literally forgetting that their ship IS the main cannon ship. Because what do you mean you'll cry if Vaultknight doesn't become real?? They ARE real. Did we somehow slip into an alternate reality where they aren't canon? Like please be so serious right now 😭😭

[harrowscore]

why are you, as an adult in 2024, still hung up on reylo. why are you still mocking the shippers. why do you believe yourself to be superior only because you dislike a stupid ship from a fucking space fairytale. girl (gnc) get a grip

[hopelessfandomfreak]

next week is amsterdam and I’m losing my mind, especially since the synopsis says, “…where one night unlocks truths for many.” like??? tedbecca feelings realization??

[mistakenlyfoundnico]

If you ever feel like your not being productive enough (I am going to expose my self a little real quick) just remember that a random stranger on the internet (me) has read a lot of spiderman fanfics (109 different fanfics and 115 including rereads) within the span of a week(that's not even taking in account that have I been going to school for 4 of those days and for the two of them I was practically offline for 12 of the 18 hours I was awake) and the fanfics word count ranged from 1k to 100k with most being about 5-20k words a piece. So you may not be being "productive" but at least you are not obsessedly reading spiderman fanfiction at any chance you get. You're not being productive but I am super not being productive and therefore you are being more productive then someone and to be more productive then someone implies your being productive so why are even worried about not being productive. Also sorta unrelated but if you want recs I have started my reading good ao3 fanfiction era and out of my reading bad wattpad fanfiction era so I have tons of recs :]]

[ni-kol-koru]

KnB 30-Days Challenge

Day 5 : Your OTP

🍍 Miyaji × Hayama ⚡️

Many consider this a crack ship. It is mostly because the characters have less than 5 minutes worth of interactions and those interactions aren't really special or cheesy in any way. So, where exactly does this ship come from? What exactly gave us the shippy feels? Personally... I don't know. I was thinking about it a lot, but I seriously have no idea. One day I just woke up and I shipped them. And I still do. It has been around 7 years since this is one of my favorite ships, and I have no clue how it all even started.

Still, I would love to share my views on this very unlikely couple. More precisely, I would like to explain how I think their relationship started, what their relationship looks like, how long their relationship lasts...

After the Shūtoku-Rakuzan match in the WinterCup, Kiyoshi just couldn't stop thinking about his opponent for the game. Kotarō was just incredible and talented, and Kiyoshi hated how useless he was against him. He loved basketball, and that defeat hurt him deeply. Instead of sitting in his room and crying about it, he decided to practice more, become better and face Kotarō again. This time, he would do better, not necessarily beat him, just not feel as useless. He promised that to himself!

He was a graduate student at that time and when college preparations, graduation and all the formalities hit him, he had no choice but to forget about facing Kotarō for a while.

When college started, everything went quite well for him and he continued playing basketball. Practicing harder than ever, one day, he felt ready, and all he had to do was meet up with Kotarō. It was easy! Kotarō was pretty pleasantly surprised when Kiyoshi sent him a message, and he quickly accepted to meet up with him in Tokyo. After all, Kotarō is a pretty social and friendly person and making another friend is something he always looks forwards to! He was also summoned for a rematch in basketball, and that sounded pretty fun!

They met up that weekend and played some one-on-one. In the end, the result was similar to the one from almost a year ago. Kotarō easily won, except that this time Kiyoshi felt better about himself and did a better job. Of course, Kotarō noticed that, so he complimented him and expressed that he would love to play more with Kiyoshi. At that moment, Kiyoshi felt pretty proud of himself, and of course, he agreed to have more matches with Kotarō!

They would meet up on weekends, when both found time to see each other and travel to each other's cities. They had so much fun with each other playing basketbal that they started seeing each other more often. After some time, they started doing other things, like going out to cafés, going sightseeing in the area, going on walks... Being in Kotarō's presence was like a drug to Kiyoshi. He was such a positive guy, always smiling, always searching for ways to have fun, he was so funny and adventurous and hanging out with him after an exhausting week was so refreshing... Seeing Kotarō became something that he was looking forward to every day and his go-to plan for every weekend.

Though, Kotarō was a graduate student this year, and he and Kiyoshi started hanging out less and less since he couldn't find enough time with all the college preparations. They were both pretty sad about it, but there was nothing they could do other than accept it. Kiyoshi realised that his life was rather boring and dull without Kotarō, and he took some time to reflect on how he really felt when he was around him. He was always pretty happy, but also a little nervous, he wanted to be around him a lot, he really cared about his opinions, he wanted to see him smile, impress him by making a good joke, looking good or playing well, he talked about him a lot and now he was thinking about him so much... After Googling his symptoms the almighty Internet diagnosed him with having a crush. Well. That explained everything.

Every time he got a message from Kotarō informing him he has time to meet up over the weekend, his heart would skip a beat. Ever since the day he realised he might have a crush, every time they saw each other it was just becoming more obvious to him. He was really crushing hard. He didn't really want to make it that obvious though, so he started acting a little... Tsundere. He really thought it was a good mask.

At last, when the college stuff was over for Kotarō, they could finally see each other all the time again, and they were both so excited for that! The greatest news ever struck Kiyoshi when he saw Kotarō right after his finals. He wrote in a college in Tokyo! Now, that meant that in a couple of months they would live in the same city and could hang whenever they felt like it.

That time came by soon, and ever since the first day Kotarō moved in, they started hanging out almost every day. But what was Kiyoshi supposed to do now? The more time they spent together, the more he was falling in love and the harder it was for him to wear the fake mask. He would make the first move now, but he was not sure how Kotarō felt about them.

Kotarō knew Kiyoshi liked him, it was painfully obvious. Though, at first, he only loved the attention Kiyoshi was giving him, how Kiyoshi was always so excited to see him and how he looked at him with some strange eyes. After some time, he started finding it cute, and he loved seeing Kiyoshi like that, so silly because he had a crush oh him. It was a little funny how he was trying to hide it and failing miserably, but it was still so sweet! He grew to really love being around Kiyoshi, he loved feeling important to someone and he always felt so appreciated and loved, he also thought Kiyoshi was smart and cool and pretty... He soon figured out that he probably had a litttle crush as well!

Great! Well, Kotarō knew that they both liked each other, and Kiyoshi seemed too unsure about making the first step, so Kotarō decided that he was going to do it. It wasn't that hard for an easy-going person like him.

'Hey, I know you like me, you can stop pretending you don't. You know, I really like you, too... Wanna be boyfriends, maybe?'

Kotarō said that on a completely random day, in the most random moment ever. Of course, after hearing that Kiyoshi was rather confused. Kotarō has known all along? He liked him, too? He thought he was dreaming. Before he collected himself and opened his mouth to say something, he felt a hand placed on top of his.

'Sooo, what do you say?'

Kotarō was looking up at him expectantly with his eyes shinning. Kiyoshi's words failed him and all he could do was just kiss his cute face. And just like that, they became boyfriends!

Just like every relationship, the first few months were just incredible. Magical. They were so in love, they were getting along really well and didn't argue much, just bicker from time to time, they had a lot of fun, went on cute dates, bought each other gifts, went places together, they had told their friends and everybody was supportive of them! It was just like a dream! They really, truly enjoyed being with each other... Until life hit.

Ever since the moment Kiyoshi knew Kotarō was his boyfriend, the silliness of having a crush was slowly, but surely, starting to wash away and now that it was secured that Kotarō loved him, he felt comfortable with being himself. His irritable side, that he didn't really show that much before, was starting to become more and more prominent. A Kiyoshi in a bad mood was not something impossible that Kotarō couldn't stand or deal with. He knew his ways to cheer his sad partner up, or calm him down when he was angry. Kotarō was pretty tolerant and really tried his best to be a good boyfriend to Kiyoshi in those moods. After all, they were a couple and they promised that they will always be together, in happiness and in sadness, understand each other and love each other. He had a lot of patience and loved the relationship.

Though, Kiyoshi's moods kept getting worse and worse, mostly because of college and stress, and Kotarō, who was also in a similar situation with academic pressure sitting right on his lungs, who was in his first year of college and had a hard time adapting to the new pace of life, started slowly losing the patience. They started fighting more and more and bickering over little things all the time. Since they are both rather short-tempered, in the heat of an arguement they would sometimes say things they didn't really mean, especially Kiyoshi with his foul language, and hurt each other. Kotarō was not exactly honey, especially when he felt attacked, so whenever Kiyoshi would hurt his feelings and attack him, his vengeful side would wake up. It wasn't anything special, because Kotarō didn't really want to hurt the person he loved badly. It was some small things, but it was still unpleasant.

They knew things were done when they stopped apologising to each other and created a lot of negative energy. Still, they decided to talk. They really wanted to do something about the current situation, save their relationship somehow. In the end, they agreed that they loved each other and cared for each other deeply, that they had a great time and enjoyed the relationship, but that it was probably just the wrong time. They agreed to part ways for a while, maybe it would turn out to be forever, but they couldn't know that.

Congratulations if you are reading this now and thank you for your patience. This is the shortened version but still it is too long, I promise I won't write a post this long again!

Anyways, this is how it goes in my head. I really tried to explain a lot of things here because I found that my view of this ship is quite different from the common dynamic. I enjoy this ship like this. I quite love the idea of them just being young adults and having fun, forgetting about their not so good past where Kiyoshi had one sided beef with Kotarō, but also finding each other because of it. I also live for the idea of Kiyoshi having a soft spot for someone and becoming this silly confused dork, something very unexpected and unusual for him. The most obvious person that anyone would have a soft spot for is a person like Kotarō. He is just like a puppy, or a kitten.

Still, I can't see them last long, no matter how much I love them. After the 'everything is perfect I am so in love phase' they just learn they don't naturally get along. They are too similar in that one way: short-temper combined with pride. When their arguements break out and they hurt each other with their words, sometimes they feel too much pride and just skip the applogy part. Even if they feel really bad about what they said... Also, college is tough, especially in first year when one is supposed to adapt to this whole new schooling style and, in Kotarō's case, whole new city. Naturally, he went a little crazy. Kiyoshi is always a little crazy so that is why their arguements start getting bad.

Maybe it is good for them to just have fun for a while and then ditch the relationship idea. They could just be friends. Though, who knows, maybe later in life, when they are not so crazy and are more stable and more mature, they could meet up again and fall in love... Still, this is good for me, I like it like this.

Note: The characters are a little OOC and I am very well aware of that. I have been putting sprikles of my personal love experiences and struggles into this couple over the years, because it is my comfort ship. ✨️

[galacov6]

how are you gonna join a naruto oc server that explicitly states that it's lgbt friendly and think that admitting you're a conservative is gonna go well

[autistic-katara]

how do u nicely ask someone to stop using the word “delusional” in That Way w/o it sounding like an accusation or smthn

[reikunrei]

tell me why it seems like 90% of byler shippers are the most smug, insufferable people i’ve ever had the displeasure of seeing on my dash. like can y’all be normal people LMAO

i’ve been following a smattering of general st fandom accounts that also post a lot about them for less than a week and i’m already like “damn i gotta fuckin go”

you’re telling me i survived 2013-2015 superwholock and free! shipping wars and i’m just right back in it in the year of our lord 2023? get a life LOL

[ladyinrosso]

My dear shipper of fandom's most popular ship, I do get why you ship it but (and that's maybe will be a shock to some of you) I simply don't.

[melliemd]

Please oh my gosh I just read with my own two eyes about how these two characters have less spark and emotional connection this season, which must be on purpose and means they’re going to get together by the end.

They don’t have a spark

Which is a purposeful choice

Clearly they’re in love

[vantekoo]

have to rant/vague post ignore

[firebirdsdaughter]

Wow…

… Nahida-villainisers will really just. Completely abandon all media comprehension to justify their nonsense, huh.

[hannahrozes]

ship wars in this fandom mean nothing to me. dnfers are winning every day so why would i get upset if dreamnappers or snfers or dnners have things to say about it. they can convince themselves of things if they want i won't be mad.

[lordofdestructionm]

The Lackacrew just threw a bone to us delusional gay shipper fans!

So glad Vikdecai is included, and congrats to zibwick and Atlas x Ruby enjoyers

[works-of-heart]

why do you ship elucien? im not trying to be rude its just genuine curiosity. to me elriel seems to be obviously canon and the author is writing them in a way that you'd genuinely find in romance with a very common misunderstanding trope. there have been so many hints to elriel being canon such as Azriel's mother being from Rosehall and the rose Symbolism with Elain. Given that Elain has shown nothing but contempt for Lucien, I just can't wrap my mind around why people will ship elucien and not elriel which appears to me to be endgame.

I don't mean any hate. I just can't understand why people would set themselves up for failure shipping a noncanon/fanon couple. I see so much in this fandom over the shipwars and wonder why the wars even exist. If elriel is canoon why do eluciens fight so hard against it? shouldnt we all be adults and accept it instead of flinging insults back and forth to each other? Not saying that you are but I see so many people go back and forth with these insults and it gets so annoying i thought we were all adults here. either way i hope you have a good day

Hi Anon! I appreciate the question, and the chance to gush about why I love Elucien.

First, however, let me start by saying anyone can ship anything and anyone they please regardless of canon or endgame. Shipping comes from the heart, it’s a feeling. Many people think of possibilities that two characters could have, or see their chemistry and enjoy it. For others, it’s the angst and connections that they have. A common trope is enemies to lovers, and that doesn’t always start off with a lovey dovey spark, but the tension and angst.

I feel that a common belief in fandoms now these days are that ships are only valid if they are canon or not, or, even more so, if they are endgame. A ships validity isn’t based off any of these factors, but how you feel about them. Crackships can sometimes evolve from a joke or meme, but then people sit down and actually find they love the idea of them and go onto creating some really awesome things for the ship! Even if it started as a joke, some may derive joy from it.

So you ship Elriel (I am assuming by context) and I ship Elucien. At the end of the day, one of them will be canonically endgame, but that does not mean people can’t still ship them. I promise, no matter what the book ends up to be, people will STILL ship who they want to, and that’s totally fine. Shipping wars have existed forever, genuinely someone will argue that one pair is better suited than their counterpart. I can understand that Elain gave Azriel some charged looks, I can see that she wanted to kiss him, and I understand why some other Elriel shippers like them. To be honest, I’ve shipped many a brooding boy with the sweet, energetic girl. The biggest example is Jin and Xiaoyu from Tekken who finally, after 25 years of teasing and build up became canonical endgame. Then there is Squall and Selphie from FF8, who did not become endgame, but I still ship them and love them.

We can all debate why we think one will be endgame over the other, some can concede and at least understand why people feel that way, others will choose to agree to disagree and stick to their grounds. One of the things I, as an Elucien hate about it is when an Elriel will call me, or my fellow Eluciens delusional for shipping a mated pair. For not seeing that Sarah is setting us up for failure when she’s played this game before. Girl likes guy, girl thinks she’s found her home, girl finds another guy whom she avoids who happens to be her mate and fights against fate. Girl spends time with guy she avoided to realize he is her equal, that he is a good male, that together they are a good fit. Girl struggles with her feelings and eventually chooses her mate who lifts her up and the two are happy in love. To be called delusional for seeing such connections and ship a pair that the author herself mated is very annoying. You do not have to agree with me, that is fine, but it does not make my ship any less valid.

Now, as to WHY I like Elucien? There are just… WAY too many reasons to list them all and this would be dreadfully long if I list everything. So I’ll name some of my top reasons.

Lucien and Elain are both underestimated. People brush off Lucien as someone who isn’t a Highlord, nor illyrian, so obviously he’s not as strong as Rhys as the Inner Circle. Elain is constantly talked down as plain, simple, peaceful and uninteresting. We haven’t been able to see Elain use her seer powers since Lucien last tugged on the bond, and with Lucien’s hinted heritage, I think we’re going to see these two show off a different kind of power.

The tension! There’s so much tension between Lucien and Elain, tension that we don’t have a full picture of. It’s clear that Elain is fighting against the bond, and Lucien, the man who promised to never love another, is now faced with a mate he believes does not want him. He’s dealing with the guilt of Jesminda while Elain is avoiding the bond. When both are faced with what the mother gifted them, finding the reason why they’re mates will be an emotional journey!

Home. People say that Elain belongs in the NC with her family, she even stated it too. However SJM seems to be showing that Elain might be a bit like Feyre in the way Feyre once claimed the SC was her home. There was a line about how the big poofy dress looked ridiculous on Feyre and how at odds she was with the place she once called home, with a man she once said she loved and made love to. The context of the book tells us that Elain is not where she’s meant to be, in fact, it was said over and over she was made for spring, she’d love spring, and her mate is currently there. I think these two are going to realize home is not a place, it is a feeling they get when they’re together.

Their potential. SJM said that Elain surprised both Lucien AND herself! There had to have been something that she saw between them when writing MAF that made her say “Yes, Mate these two instantly! Not only that, make it snap now!” Seeing that Elain is a gentle soul and Lucien is someone whose a bit of a smart ass, I’d love to see these two together. Elain would be the type of person to put him in his place, and Lucien wouldn’t baby her either, unlike how everyone else treats her! Their dynamic would be a treat to see on page.

There’s so much more to say about them, and I could go on and on! We have tension, and the possible healing and growth that was hinted at, the fact Lucien ventured with Papa A. and Elain was closest to him. There’s also the fact that Elain holds hope, she is light and warmth and Lucien who seems so hopeless, could find that in her. Elain craves light and sunshine, Lucien being the heir of Day, to having a blinding white light himself. The way when Lucien interacts with her, her powers activate. Not to mention the similarities between Solas and Cthona, Crescent City deities who are mates and lovers.

So to answer Anon, there are many reasons I love Elucien, and I will continue to ship them long after the series is over. Whether or not they’re in love right now, before either of them have a book has no bearing on their validity as a ship, or their possibility in their book. I think you’d find it easier to just let people have their ships and enjoy what they wish in peace rather than trying to tell others they can or cannot ship based off what the books tell us right now. Because as we all know from ACOTAR and ACOMAF, it doesn’t matter who you love at the start, not when you find home with your mate.

[reflections-in-a-critical-eye]

i for once want to get the opinion of a "rational" jikooker who knows how to take a step back and take certain things for what they are and i wanna know your opinion or interpretation of jikook in chap2 and them not meeting and also that conversation they had in the car about that please.

And you thought I'm that rational person? Funny.

You know, there's something I always disliked about being in this fandom space. I mean, there's plenty of other things, don't get me wrong, but this one in particular really irks me. It's the need for approval, for confirmation of one's thoughts. There's a severe lack of independent thought. It might be hidden under apparent strong opinions, but when you look at how those opinions are spread to anon messaging to bloggers everyday, that's a sign that the complete opposite happens.

Jikook as a kpop ship always has to be questioned. At this point, I think it's part of its narrative as a ship. But what's curious (and stupid) is that the hardest line of questioning comes from the ones who consider themselves interested/curious. But make no mistake, this is not done for the sake of not becoming delusional and discard any rational thought. It happens because of the need for approval.

You sent me this ask because you hope for me to agree with your own thoughts about jikook and what that conversation in the car means. Not for them actually, but for you. And you're not the only person. A sure sign of fandom insanity is debating for over 2 weeks now a conversation that is not only heavily editated, it is mediated as well. It takes place in the context of a show for fans in which participants are two people who will never reveal everything about their lives. And on top of that, there's an intentional need to ignore that people can speak in hyperbole, that people can ommit or say one thing that actually means more or another that only the other person is capable of understanding the nuances of that.

Communication is complex. We do know that because we engage with it everyday. Except we forget all that the moment we have to talk about this specific ship. We forget a lot of things about human behavior, relationships, etc. It is an intentional act. So we start writing fanfictions. We start making relationship timelines. We start taking about temporary or definitive break ups of a ship that hasn't even been confirmed as a couple. At this point, shippers operate into this alternative universe sphere, canon adjacent but instead of doing it on ao3, they use their blogs and anon messages for that. But hey, fanfics on ao3 are a lot of the times the work of talented writers, while 500-1000 words essays on tumblr are simply a complete waste of time after the first paragraph.

Is this what you would consider a rational perspective? Or should I start writing down a timeline of all the times in which JM and JK have met in "Chapter 2" up until NY in July? (As if in reality their lives are actually separated that clearly, as if a break in band work completely defines their personal lives, jesus christ!). So, should I note down all the public events that they've been to? And to draw a conclusion from it to prove or disprove that the amount of times they've seen each other is reflective or not of what they said in the car when they left for their trip? Of course, we should ignore that there's an entire life outside of what we see.

And that's the thing, you know? We all supposedly agree that they actually share little of their lives with their fans, but practically? The fandom doesn't really give a shit. Because of the classic parasocial relationship we have developed that makes us believe we know everything there is to know.

What we are allowed to see and what we hear from whispers here and there should allow us to realize that no theory over a supposed relationship is better than the other. Believing they are just friends, that they have broken up, that they are fwb and so on is in no way more rational that believing they are together.

What does this mean? If none of us are wiser? It means we have a choice. Some are choosing to be losers or little bitches crying in anon asks about their "insecurities" over a ship. Some are choosing to look at this ship as a duo that includes two people who have really good chemistry and who match each other's freak.

I've always been in the latter category, I thought that was obvious and I've said it before. If one day Jimin makes a public statement that he's marrying the love of his life, a sweet girl that is also the mother of his 5 secret children, then so be it. And if one day, Jungkook shows up one day after he decided to run away and join a bike gang where he met his boyfriend, then so be it. If somehow that next day, a jikook clip would turn up on my tl in which Jimin is brushing his teeth while straddling Jungkook, my reaction would be "well, jikook fuck. Often". You know why? Because for me, the public life of stars and what they choose to share is entertainment. A travel show, a wlive, concerts, these are all forms of entertainment. I do not consume my entertainment by being a loser on the internet, pondering if my assessment over two people might be fucking is real or not or is approved by other people.