#anti The Boys

[molt3ngold]

I’ve noticed there’s a bunch of people in the Supernatural fandom (Sam fans more than any other subgroup) that are majorly anti-The Boys.

Personally I think it’s a bloody masterpiece, by far my favourite show at the moment. It has the same creator and half the cast, plus it’s just hilarious, so what’s got everyone’s panties in a twist?

(Yes I tagged Sam and Jared. Don’t crawl up my ass. I need answers from the source.)

[spooky-donut-ghost-house]

Yk at first I thought maybe Garth Ennis' The Boys comic might be the most edgiest thing he's written

Then I read his Punisher run and I thought that was the edgiest thing he's written

Then there was Preacher and I was like "This. This has to be it. This has to be the edgiest thing Garth Ennis has written. It surely can't get worse then this, right?"

Nope

I was wrong

The Crossed is single handly the most vile, putrid, disgusting, awful, horrendous, horrible, bad, terrible, depraved, disturbing, edgiest comic series I have ever read

[thatweirdgirlwhosalwaysonline]

So, I’ve seen a lot of Superman and Homelander memes on here that are used to compare and contrast things, but the thing that really gets on my nerves is how Superman is always used to represent the fantasy and Homelander is always used to represent reality. There’s a common one where Superman is “How U.S. history is taught” and Homelander is “What actually happened,” and now I’m seeing a quote going around that’s like “People think of Israel as Superman but it’s really Homelander.”

Not to diminish the power of those statements, but the thing that’s always driven me crazy is how everyone describes The Boys as the “realistic” superhero show because the superheroes are corrupt and how they describe Homelander as “Superman if he actually existed.” It’s part of a larger pattern I’ve noticed recently where people see goodness as inherently false and badness as genuine. A public figure will do something that offends or hurts people, and that moment is seen as them revealing their true colors, and every good thing they did before or since is then seen as them putting on an act to hide their true nature or a desperate attempt to repair their image. It’s the same thing with Superman. People can get behind the idea of an alien from outer space who can fly, lift cars over his head, and shoot lasers out of his eyes, but the fact that he’s also kind? That’s what breaks suspension of disbelief.

Therefore, I’ve decided to counteract that narrative a little with some memes of my own, where Homelander is the wrong interpretation and Superman is the truth.

[justmenoworries]

“Lol, what if superheroes were a bunch of r*pists and murderers, every single one of them and their fans were just sheep who lick their boots like it would be in a realistic setting?”

What if you had a single ounce of joy in your life so you wouldn’t feel the need to dump on harmless fun and the concept of people actually being good, Garth?

[mcufandomhatespeopleofcolor]

I find it annoying and sadly unsurprising that people are saying how The Deep from The Boys is "better" than than mcu!Namor and dceu!Aquaman despite The Deep being a fucking rapist since he's played by a conveniently attractive white man while Namor and Aquaman are played by moc

the raging racism of yt ppl prefering the boys to the more diverse MCU/DCEU casting choices never ceases to surprise me.

Also its so unfair that they're not even giving Namor a chance?!?! I know there were problems in Aquaman (namely the antiblackness) but its still better than the grimdark/rapey/SA stuff in the boys.

mod laina

[eobard-thawne]

this is the last time hopefully i’m posting about the boys because i’m officially done with this show. there’s no way i’ll watch season 4 unless starlight finally gets the spotlight she so fucking rightfully deserves but from the shitshow that was season 3 no way it’s gonna happen. i hated every part of it every storyline every character arc everything. this temporary v shit with butcher and hughie was as interesting as watching paint dry. it made no sense!!!!!! i’ve already posted abt hughie but i hated him so much this season what a pathetic piece of shit!!! his character arc made NO. DAMN. SENSE. the betrayal he’s felt because of neuman should have been dealt with differently. he was the first to stand up to butcher esp about murdering people and then he killed (he was just as responsible as soldier boy don’t @ me) 12 people in one episode. he manipulated annie and lied to her. and all he’s got at the end was “i told you”. annie should have left him!!! deep and a-train was so fucking boring and their arcs were pointless because there was no conclusion at the end they should have died instead of black noir and maeve (still glad that maeve survived though). noir didn’t even do anything on the show for two whole seasons and when he finally got a backstory homelander killed him. this dude didn’t do anything for the majority of the show yet he was more fun and interesting to watch than half the characters on the show. and i’m so disappointed with kimiko. all this time i thought she hated killing people she hated that no one gave her a choice she hated being seen as nothing but a weapon. but looks like she only loathed what she’s become because it wasn’t her choice. after manipulating annie to bring her the v she proved that she was nothing but a murderer. i was sooo wrong about her. i mean she thought she deserved to die for what she’s done lmao but what the fuck was that at the end making a fucking joke out of killing people. none of the character arcs made any sense this season not just kimiko. it made soldier boy (total disappointment btw jensen ackles was too hot for this shitty show) and homelander look more stable than everyone else lmfao.

my mistake for watching this show in the first place. i hate “what if superheroes were killers” trope more than anything because this is the exact opposite why we have superheroes. to find comfort in their utopic world and escape from the real world’s murderer “heroes”. i hate to sound like a m*c*u fan but this is why i hate superhero stories being so closely connected to real life. i don’t give a shit about that. i just thought the show would do something significantly different than ennis’ crap. there is no way in any form of fiction a murderer is ever gonna be sympathetic to me. they are nothing but killers and they don’t deserve anything.

i feel so bad for starlight because she deserves so much better. she is the only good character that is worth watching and the real lead character on the show but she’ll probably be fucked over in s4 too.

[brsb4hls]

K, watched "The Boys" 3 up to ep 5 and I gotta say it definitely lost it's glamour.

It's still exploding people, d*ck jokes, d*ck adjacent jokes, more exploding people and Homelander still being a narcissistic sociopath.

And Butcher and Hughie shooting v is about as interesting as Riley's vamp addiction in Buffy season 4.

[eddiesisterhandsthtdanceslikeabb]

One thing I can say is that I found Jon intriguing/entertaining before it was mainstream and some trending internet cultural brofest, I've been here since day 1 mfers.

Not to go here [now] but there's a reason s3 blew up, its spectacle with hardly any substance, its heavily memeable and creates a comfy space for mindless viewers. And with the show elongating its pretexts to avoid substantial change and development, its the show at its most self indulgent and facile, which is why John becomes ever more self pitying, less active and less foreboding. A character who was enrapturing for his otherwordly presence is humanized in all the wrong ways. 5 outta 10, not a fann.

no making him drink from a cow will not make me more bewildered and disgusted by him (when its substanceless, without stakes and indicative of nothing new) [the little moments made the big moments with john bc of setup and seeing how volatile and easily triggered he was. it grounded him and made his interactions with the world more meaningful, substantial and most importantly: more of a threat]. — miss when my repulsion came from his warped mental state, the tension of his unpredictability and his steady, v!olent and twisted descent into destruction :(

[wherehumorcomestodie]

The Perfect Run is what The Boys wishes it was. That is all.

[spooky-donut-ghost-house]

Tried watching The Boys

I saw a tiny man fucking a Barbie doll and the later saw the exact same tiny man grow small again and crawl into another man's asshole

What the actual fuck

[thatweirdgirlwhosalwaysonline]

So apparently The Boys just shit on all the moments from Superman comics where Superman talks down and comforts suicidal people by having Homelander literally order a suicidal woman to kill herself. What’s next? Are they going to do a “shout-out” to Superman Smashes the Klan by having Homelander murder a Chinese girl while wearing a Klan robe? God, I hate this show.

[talesofmetalandmagic]

Eric Kripke: The Boys is commentary on toxic masculinity and wants to denounce Trump

The Boys: has the toxic male lead Billy Butcher as the one in charge and instead of calling him out it coddles him

The Boys: dismisses the importance of representation because their target audience doesn’t need it anyway

The Boys: has even more toxic jerkwad Soldier Boy as the one and only resource against Homelander and people just go with it because who ELSE could beat that guy? A pesky minority maybe? Naaah, make way for the real MAN.

The Boys: has one (1) main queer character who’s always victimized, always cowering, and in the end is taken out of the action, depowered, believed to be dead and bi-erased even in “death”. Also she concedes herself to Butcher because of course she does. The other queer characters are villains, jokes or extras.

The Boys: brutalizes disabled characters (Blind Spot, Mindstorm), characters of color (Moonshadow, Supersonic, Black Noir, A-Train) and female characters (Starlight, Rebecca, Crimson Countess) as “commentary” without ever giving them a voice and a chance to fight back.

The Boys: writes Muslim people as nameless terrorists, then teases an actual Muslim heroine (Silver Kincaid) just to throw her away like nothing and again, depriving her of a voice and a chance to fight back because she’s not Billy Fucking Butcher.

The Boys: offers no healthy masculine alternatives, showing Butcher’s way as the only way, as painful and wrong as it is.

…yeah sir, real commentary there.

[justmenoworries]

Honestly, I think a show that has everybody die gruesomely every time to be "subversive" and "mature" is just as predictable as a show that never kills anyone off.

It's boring.

Why should I get excited for any new characters or plot points? I already know the writers will just unceremoniously drop a bridge on everyone and not resolve anything.

[chloesimaginationthings]

FNAF movie Mike meets Jeremy Fitzgerald

[eobard-thawne]

just rewatched the season 3 finale of the boys and i still think it’s one of the worst directed and edited tv episodes i’ve seen

[khruschevshoe]

You know, it's rather interesting to me that Taylor Swift's parasocial relationship with her fans is honestly more akin to a YouTuber than a writer's. When I scroll through her tag on tumblr/Twitter, it's far more regarding the connection to her personal life/relationship developments than the actual metaphors/fictional story she might be telling. Everything comes back to how her songs reflect back on her relationships with Joe/Matty/Travis/Jake/insert ex-boyfriend here. And what fascinates me about it is that even though she complains about it, she leans into that very perception because it strengthens the parasocial bond.

The marketing for TTPD so clearly being about Joe Alwyn and the songs to Matty Healy. The marketing/video for Red TV so CLEARLY being about Jake Gyllenhaal, with so many of the new lines in All Too Well specifically being digs at him (I'll get older but your lovers stay my age, casting an actor that looks like him for the video, specific lines in I Bet You Think About Me). The fact that songs like Getaway Car and Bejeweled and Gorgeous and London Boy and Lavender Haze being picked apart at time of release and long after for signs of relationships crumbling. The way she uses surprise songs in relation to her relationship development with Joe/Matty/Travis. The damn TTPD "stages of grief" playlists where she deliberately undid/changed the meanings of old songs just to keep her audience speculating on her love life.

It's not sexist to point out that her wielding her love life is a marketing tool and that the strongest connection to her audience isn't the strength of her writing/the composition of her music- it's her deliberate crafting of a connection between her music and her personal life, leaving the audience invested in her music as an extension of Taylor the Person/Girlfriend rather than Taylor the Artist.