#anti jon kent (post bendis)

[devine-fem]

THIS NOT A AGED UP JON KENT SAFE BLOG!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! GO AWAY OR I WILL GET THE HOSE!!!

[kingnd]

[thattimdrakeguy]

I dont like 2 batfam members and I cant even say it when someone asks me if I dont like them or not, because their fans are so weird that they wont leave you alone, even sending some messages and harassing you... but when Its about Tim people always saying their own opinions and people are ok with this. Batfam fandom is full of hypocrisy and it's annoying

I’ve seen people called racist just because they didn’t like Damian, and I’m still baffled about it since I seen that happen to someone, because just because they don’t like their favorite, doesn’t make them a racist. Unless, you know, they’re actually a big racist, in which case go ahead.

I’ve seen people get huffy when someone doesn’t like Dick because “I THINK WE SHOULD JUST ENJOY ALL THAT BAT-FAMILY MEMBERS” to try to make the other person look cynical for just not happening to enjoy all of them.

and even full rants when someone doesn’t enjoy Jason. Like it’s so unbelievable that maybe some people don’t enjoy reading edgy anti-heroes, or don’t find him likable.

It’s all very obnoxious because it’s overly defensive over something as small as a guy in a post saying off to the side “I also just personally don’t like blank that much”. You can’t often get away with saying how you feel about a character in fandoms, because if someone sees it it’s very much possible you’ll get crap for it.

A guy once yelled at me for an hour because I thought Jon Kent was an archetype that never moved beyond and that he was bland because of it. Just my opinion and reaction to people sending Bendis’s death-threats over aging him up. I thought it was outrageous that Jon was a character people were sending death-threats over, and they tried to gaslight me over it. Trying to act like I was trying to say some characters were worth sending death-threats over over, instead of accepting the fact I was trying to show perspective to the few that might’ve read the post I’m talking about.

and I’ve seen Tim fans be called out as the toxic ones many-a-time, but personally, in the bad things that they do do? They’re no worse in any way compared to the other fan bases to be called out specifically, they’re relatively tame in comparison aggression-wise, even if that’s possibly because it’s been growing smaller since the New 52. The bat-family fandom tries it’s best to be positive, but they also dive into bizarre behaviors when someone doesn’t like even one of the characters.

Just in general I find the Bat-Family fandom to be full of hypocrisy as you’ve said, or at least in general, and they seem to try and make it seem ultra positive and inviting by saying WE SHOULD ALL JUST ENJOY ALL OF THEM, but that’s not how people work, and feels like a backhanded way of trying to make the other person seem cynical and bitter, purely for not agreeing.

Sometimes tastes don’t collide with all of them, you find major writing flaws with them, you could never find yourself enjoying any comic they’ve ever been in, maybe the people that always write them you have genuine problems with how they write, and because they write that character so much, you don’t like them.

It’s okay to not like a character.

There’s always going to be a reason to not like a character, even if it’s reasonably small, it’s okay, it’s valid to just not like a character because of tastes or that click never happened. It’s something that’s always gonna happen to someone, I doubt there’s a single character that clicked with everyone all the time.

But with Tim, the stuff that gets praised for being said always seems to be for petty, vile reasons that’s practically slandering a fictional character, like calling him an incel, racist, or sexist, while trying to show panels with the wrong context to make it seem true, like they’ll show Tim talking negatively about Damian because of his genetics, and they like to say it’s because he’s Arabian to make Tim seem racist, and ignore that it’s obviously because of the Al Ghul connection, or they’ll show Tim be negative to someone that happens to be a girl like Steph, even though he wasn’t negative to them because they were a girl, but because of their actions or what Batman told him.

People occasionally get praised for saying stuff like that, as if to say “thanks for saying the truth!” even though it’s not even slightly close to the truth. It’s literally lies to make a character they happen to not like less likable, to make people that like the character feel crappy because so many people will say such lies against the character they enjoy. 

The people that say that stuff just agreed with hating the character together, and they wanted to do their best to make the lies seem true. Even over something so small. Just so there’s a smidgen of a chance some person that doesn’t know better will just assume they’re right.

A very petty action.

That’s the stuff that is toxic and I cannot stand, it’s not okay to do that, to any character, person, or anything. It’s purely mean spirited.

and for the other people who won’t allow reasonable people to dislike their favorite character?

Toxic in their own way. 

People should be permitted to not like your fav when they have their own reasons that aren’t even close to slander, I understand it may be annoying because you like them so much, but it’s something that happens, and you’ll have to deal with it, because it’s not fair to yell at someone because of a disagreement, especially when it’s rational thought behind their decision.

The behavior I’ve seen for or against a character in fandoms (mainly this one since this has been pretty much the only fandom I’m involved in), has been too much, and I think a lot of it needs to stop.

[scottwinters714]

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Superman-related June 2020 Solicitations

DC Comics has released their June 2020 solicitations, and we’ve highlighted for you all the Superman-related comics and products listed.

COMIC BOOKS

DCEASED: DEAD PLANET #1 written by TOM TAYLOR art by TREVOR HAIRSINE, STEFANO GAUDIANO, and GIGI BALDISSINI cover by DAVID FINCH card stock variant cover by FRANCESCO MATTINA card stock movie homage variant cover by BEN OLIVER blank variant cover After a corrupted Anti-Life Equation turned billions into monsters—including Earth’s Greatest Heroes—our planet was as good as dead. Years later, a distress call brings Damian Wayne, Jon Kent, and Cassie Sandsmark—the Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman of Earth 2—back to a dead planet…but what will this new Justice League find waiting for them? If life still exists on Earth, who—or what—is lying in wait for these heroes? The original creative team of Tom Taylor and Trevor Hairsine reunite for the sequel to the 2019 blockbuster series DCeased! ON SALE 06.10.20 $4.99 US | 1 OF 6 | 40 PAGES FC | DC CARD STOCK VARIANT COVERS $5.99 US This issue will ship with four covers. Please see the order form for details.

DARK NIGHTS: DEATH METAL #2 written by SCOTT SNYDER art by GREG CAPULLO and JONATHAN GLAPION card stock foil cover by GREG CAPULLO and JONATHAN GLAPION Aquaman variant cover by DAVID FINCH Lobo variant cover by JEROME OPEÑA Harley Quinn variant cover by STANLEY “ARTGERM” LAU 1:25 variant cover by DOUG MAHNKE 1:100 black and white variant cover by GREG CAPULLO and JONATHAN GLAPION Get ready to scream! Wonder Woman roars across the horrifying Dark Multiverse landscape in the world’s most demented monster truck, with Swamp Thing riding shotgun! The two arrive at the ghoulish cemetery base of Batman and his army of zombies, but can the former friends stand each other long enough to form a plan and take back the planet? Plus, what’s Lobo doing in space? Don’t miss the second chapter of the wildest ride in the DC Universe, from the epic team of writer Scott Snyder and artist Greg Capullo! ON SALE 06.10.20 $4.99 US | 32 PAGES CARD STOCK COVERS FC | DC This issue will ship with four covers. Please see the order form for details.

LEVIATHAN: CHECKMATE #3 written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS art and cover by ALEX MALEEV variant cover by MATT TAYLOR Green Arrow’s team of super-spies—including the Question, Manhunter, Lois Lane, and Talia al Ghul—has infiltrated Leviathan—and that officially makes them members of Leviathan! Along the way, they learn that one of their own is actually a secret Leviathan agent who betrayed the new Checkmate from the start! Plus, Superman flies onto the scene to shake things up even further! From the award-winning creative team that brought you last year’s Event Leviathan comes the next surprising chapter in DC’s most dangerous saga. ON SALE 06.24.20 $3.99 US | 3 OF 6 |32 PAGES FC | DC This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.

ACTION COMICS #1024 written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS art and cover by JOHN ROMITA JR. and KLAUS JANSON variant cover by LUCIO PARRILLO Wonder Woman 1984 variant cover by FRANK CHO The city of Metropolis has been rocked by Luthor’s latest attack and the drama surrounding Superman’s truth, and that gives the invisible mafia a new foothold to change the City of Tomorrow forever. Meanwhile, the Daily Planet is under siege! The fallout from Superman: Villains continues as Clark Kent steps out into the world as a reporter for the first time. ON SALE 06.24.20 $3.99 US | 32 PAGES FC | DC This issue will ship with three covers.

BATMAN/SUPERMAN #11 written by JOSHUA WILLIAMSON art by MAX RAYNOR cover by DAVID MARQUEZ card stock variant cover by JAE LEE Wonder Woman 1984 variant cover by JENNY FRISON It’s Superman versus Batman as the deadly machinations of the Ultra-Humanite crash to their end! The Dark Knight has been transformed into a human atomic bomb, all in the name of wiping Superman from the face of the Earth! As Batman struggles against the urge to kill his friend, Superman must undo the damage done and help the other victims of the Ultra-Humanite’s experiments. It’s the thrilling conclusion to “Atomic” that will reverberate across the DC Universe for months to come! ON SALE 06.24.20 $3.99 US | 32 PAGES CARD STOCK VARIANT COVER $4.99 US FC | DC This issue will ship with three covers. Please see the order form for details.

JUSTICE LEAGUE #48 written by SIMON SPURRIER art by AARON LOPRESTI and MATT RYAN cover by DAVID MARQUEZ variant cover by CLAUDIO CASTELLINI Wonder Woman 1984 variant cover by JIM LEE As writer Simon Spurrier jumps on board for the start of the three-part tale “The Rule of War,” it’s close encounters…of a Justice League kind! After answering a distress signal from distant space, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, and Green Lantern discover an abandoned cargo ship full of young aliens! When the League attempts to return the children to their home planet, they are met with awe, terror, and war! Thus begins a three-part storyline that will take the League to a previously unknown planet, with an all-new species, a dangerous mystery, and a new, otherworldly villain. ON SALE 06.03.20 $3.99 US | 32 PAGES FC | DC This issue will ship with three covers. Please see the order form for details.

JUSTICE LEAGUE #49 written by SIMON SPURRIER art by AARON LOPRESTI and MATT RYAN cover by EDDY BARROWS and EBER FERREIRA variant cover by NICK DERINGTON “The Rule of War” part two! After the devastating events of last issue, the League is separated and labeled as alien visitors on a war-torn planet. With events spiraling out of control, and no leader to guide planet Trotha’s citizens, how can the League save this world without interfering? As the team battles rogue factions, Batman makes a startling discovery that will threaten any hope the team has of returning home! ON SALE 06.17.20 $3.99 US | 32 PAGES FC | DC This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.

LEGION OF SUPERHEROES #8 written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS art and cover by RYAN SOOK variant cover by DUSTIN NGUYEN The United Planets are at war as a new epic begins! The president of the United Planets is unable to maintain peace as Ultra Boy’s homeworld of Rimbor and Chameleon Boy’s homeworld of Durla declare interplanetary war! With the Legion of Super-Heroes choosing sides and a civil war brewing, will these young heroes need to split into separate teams? Plus, Superboy makes a discovery about the future that will change everything he knows…there is a new Krypton! Find out what happens next in the only book telling you the future of DC Comics every month! ON SALE 06.03.20 $3.99 US | 32 PAGES FC | DC This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.

LOIS LANE #12 written by GREG RUCKA art and cover by MIKE PERKINS variant cover by AMANDA CONNER At the end of multiple investigations, Lois finds herself with the power to change—or destroy—the lives of everyone involved. ON SALE 06.03.20 $3.99 US | 12 OF 12 | 32 PAGES FC | DC FINAL ISSUE This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.

SUPERMAN #24 written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS art by KEVIN MAGUIRE cover by IVAN REIS and JOE PRADO variant cover by BRYAN HITCH Wonder Woman 1984 variant cover by GABRIELE DELL’OTTO Superman’s legendary susceptibility to magic is about to turn his life inside out and upside down. A mysterious new villain has come into Superman’s world to pit him against the most powerful sorcerer and agent for the Lords of Order: Doctor Fate! ON SALE 06.10.20 | $3.99 US | 32 PAGES FC | DC This issue will ship with three covers. Please see the order form for details.

SUPERMAN’S PAL JIMMY OLSEN #12 written by MATT FRACTION art and cover by STEVE LIEBER variant cover by BEN OLIVER Whoa—is that what I think it is? If I’m reading this solicitation text correctly, we made it to issue #12! Mazel tov! Party time! If you see Matt and Steve at the next convention, go buy them a drink because I have no idea how we made it this far! No, wait, I do—it’s all thanks to you guys! In this final issue, with the Daily Planet on the ropes, Jimmy learns something about it that’ll change everything forever. ON SALE 06.17.20 $3.99 US | 12 OF 12 | 32 PAGES FC | DC FINAL ISSUE This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.

YOUNG JUSTICE #17 written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS and DAVID F. WALKER art by SCOTT GODLEWSKI cover by JOHN TIMMS variant cover by MIRKA ANDOLFO This very special issue focuses directly on the friendship at the heart of Young Justice: Conner, Tim, and Bart—a.k.a. Superboy, Drake, and Impulse. As younger men, these three iconic heroes built Young Justice on their friendship. Now their dream has grown and changed as much as they have. And with the demands of adulthood pulling them in different directions, they realize that nights like this one may never happen again. ON SALE 06.03.20 $3.99 US | 32 PAGES FC | DC This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.

DC CLASSICS: JUSTICE LEAGUE #50 written by GEOFF JOHNS art and cover by JASON FABOK Batman: Three Jokers #1 is here at last—and to accompany it, DC reprints Justice League #50, the story that introduced the concept of the three Jokers, by the Three Jokers creative team of writer Geoff Johns and artist Jason Fabok. ON SALE 06.17.20 $1.99 US | 48 PAGES | FC | DC

DOLLAR COMICS:LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES #1 (1989) written by KEITH GIFFEN, TOM BIERBAUM, MARY BIERBAUM, and AL GORDON art and cover by KEITH GIFFEN and AL GORDON Five years after the end of the Magic Wars, Chameleon Boy decides it’s time to rebuild the Legion, starting with Cosmic Boy…but is Rokk Krinn willing to get on board? ON SALE 06.10.20 | $1.00 US 32 PAGES | FC | DC Offered to coincide with the Legion of Super-Heroes: Five Years Later Omnibus Vol. 1 HC, solicited in the March DC Previews.

COLLECTED EDITIONS

DC SUPER HERO GIRLS: MIDTERMS TP written by AMY WOLFRAM art and cover by YANCEY LABAT Who comes out on top when Bumblebee, a journalist, and a super-villain get in a fight? Find out when Karen Beecher and Lois Lane face off in a battle of wits with… Harleen Quinzel?! Three students top the leaderboard at Metropolis High, and the upcoming midterms will determine who’s the best in class. But each girl must first face challenges from their real lives! ON SALE 08.26.20 $9.99 US | FC | 5.5″ x 8″ 144 PAGES DC GRAPHIC NOVELS FOR KIDS ISBN: 978-1-4012-9852-4

LOIS LANE AND THE FRIENDSHIP CHALLENGE TP written by GRACE ELLIS art and cover by BRITTNEY WILLIAMS From New York Times bestselling author Grace Ellis (Lumberjanes) and artist Brittney Williams (Goldie Vance) comes a new story about 13-year-old Lois Lane as she navigates the confusing worlds of social media and friendship. It’s the first day of summer break in the sleepy town of Liberty View, and young Lois Lane bursts onto the scene with what she knows is a sure-to-go-viral video channel. Okay, maybe her platform only receives two views a week (thanks, Mom), and maybe her best friend, Kristen, isn’t quite as enthusiastic about social media, but when Lois sets her mind on something, there’s no turning back. At the end of the week, the big neighborhood barbecue and bike race will be the perfect backdrop to Lois and Kristen’s #friendshipchallenge video. But when the girls find out the annual fireworks are missing, Lois doubles down on her efforts for fame, testing her friendship in ways she couldn’t imagine. With Kristen leaving for sleepaway camp after the barbecue and a new girl on the block taking all of Kristen’s attention, will Lois be able to find the missing fireworks, celebrate the summer, and post the best #friendshipchallenge the internet has ever seen? Or will she have to face her challenges IRL? ON SALE 08.05.20 $9.99 US | FC | 5.5″ x 8″ 160 PAGES DC GRAPHIC NOVELS FOR KIDS ISBN: 978-1-4012-9633-7

SUPERMAN: THE MAN OF STEEL VOL. 1 HC written by JOHN BYRNE and MARV WOLFMAN art by JOHN BYRNE, DICK GIORDANO, JERRY ORDWAY, and others cover by JOHN BYRNE Following Crisis on Infinite Earths, comic book superstar John Byrne reimagined Superman for a new era in bold tales presented in this new collection! Starting with the six-issue Man of Steel miniseries, Byrne fundamentally changed Superman’s origins and propelled him into the present, including iconic encounters with Lex Luthor, Metallo, and Darkseid! This title collects The Man of Steel #1-6, Superman #1-4, Adventures of Superman #424-428, and Action Comics #584-587. ON SALE 07.22.20 $49.99 US | 480 PAGES FC | ISBN: 978-1-77950-491-3

DCEASED: UNKILLABLES HC written by TOM TAYLOR art by KARL MOSTERT and TREVOR SCOTT cover by HOWARD PORTER When heroes fall, villains rise! The next chapter of the hit DCeased saga is the villains’ story of survival during the zombie apocalypse! Led by Red Hood and Deathstroke, DC’s hardest villains and antiheroes fight with no mercy to save the only commodity left on a dying planet of the undead—life! Heroes and villains collide with one epic purpose: to escape the coming of the infected population of Gotham City and a monstrous Wonder Woman! Collects DCeased: Unkillables #1-3. ON SALE 07.08.20 $22.99 US | 136 PAGES FC | ISBN: 978-1-77950-393-0

LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES VOL. 1: MILLENNIUM HC written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS art by RYAN SOOK, TRAVIS MOORE, MIKEL JANÍN, SCOTT GODLEWSKI, JIM LEE, SCOTT WILLIAMS, DUSTIN NGUYEN, ANDREA SORRENTINO, ANDRÉ LIMA ARAÚJO, NICOLA SCOTT, JIM CHEUNG, JEFF DEKAL, and WADE VON GRAWBADGER cover by RYAN SOOK Long live the Legion! Inspired by the acts of and lessons learned from the greatest heroes of all time, the Legion of Super-Heroes have gathered together to stop a galaxy from repeating its past mistakes. Why have the Legion of Super-Heroes broken the cardinal rule of the United Planets and inducted Jon Kent, a.k.a. Superboy, into the Legion? What are they hiding? And what does it have to do with Aquaman’s long-lost trident? But first, take a trip through a thousand years of DC’s future history—navigated by a mysterious figure from the present! The greatest lineup of heroes in comic book history returns with new, fresh stories! Collects Legion of Super-Heroes: Millennium #1-2 and Legion of Super-Heroes #1-6. ON SALE 07.01.20 $29.99 US | 232 PAGES FC | ISBN: 978-1-4012-9577-6

SUPERBOY: A CELEBRATION OF 75 YEARS HC written by JERRY SIEGEL, OTTO BINDER, PAUL LEVITZ, PETER J. TOMASI, GEOFF JOHNS, ELLIOT S. MAGGIN, and others art by JOE SHUSTER, CURT SWAN, PATRICK GLEASON, PHIL JIMENEZ, TOM GRUMMETT, and others cover by JIM LEE and SCOTT WILLIAMS This title celebrates Superboy across the decades, from young Clark Kent in Smallville, to Superboy’s 1970s adventures with the Legion of Super-Heroes, to Conner Kent’s 1990s escapades, and today’s Jon Kent. This title collects stories from More Fun Comics #101, Superboy (1949) #10 and 89, Adventure Comics #210, 247, 271, 369, and 370, Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes #233 and 259, DC Comics Presents #87, Infinite Crisis #6, Adventures of Superman #501, Superboy (1994) #59, Teen Titans #24, Adventure Comics #2, Young Justice #3, and Superman (2016) #6, 10, and 11. ON SALE 07.01.20 $39.99 US | 440 PAGES FC | ISBN: 978-1-77950-315-2

SUPERMAN: CITY OF TOMORROW VOL. 2 TP written by JEPH LOEB, J.M. DeMATTEIS, JOE KELLY, and others art by ED McGUINNESS, DOUG MAHNKE, CARY NORD, MIKE McKONE, STUART IMMONEN, YANICK PAQUETTE, PAUL PELLETIER, and others cover by ED McGUINNESS In tales that ushered in the new millennium, Superman returns to Smallville and teams up with Superboy! Plus, The Joker and Harley Quinn invade Metropolis! And in “Critical Condition,” Superman must search for a missing Lois Lane while a mystery illness threatens his life! Collects Superman #155-159, Adventures of Superman #577-581, Action Comics #764-768, and Superman: The Man of Steel #99-103. ON SALE 07.29.20 $39.99 US | 504 PAGES FC | ISBN: 978-1-77950-312-1

MERCHANDISE

DC ESSENTIALS: JUSTICE LEAGUE ACTION FIGURE 6-PACK Collect the whole Justice League with this DC Essentials 6-pack featuring all of your favorite characters. With all-new fresh paints, this collector’s pack is not one to be missed by any action figure fan. – Allocations may occur – Final products may differ from images shown ON SALE NOVEMBER 2020 $140.00 US

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[devine-fem]

They’ll never get to be like this again, by the way.

[devine-fem]

For context Injustice Superman breaks the arm of Jay Nakamura and Jon activates his powers not even to fight but to quickly… give him a hug… are you serious?

Tom Taylor… this is not how ANYTHING works like first off this is going into my cliff notes of unconscious moments Jon proved that he didn’t give a fuck about Jay. I’m sorry - this literal murderous dicator threatens the life of the person you “love” and you give him… a hug…?

like oh thank you superman for breaking my boyfriends arm!

WHAT?!?!

No because what is truly with this spineless nepobaby jon that are trying to push, hes a goddamn idiot? oh my god…

he gets exactly what he deserves of course because wtf is wrong with you?

GUYS DONT READ THIS ITS SO INCREDIBLY BAD, NO WONDER IT GOT CANCELLED

i just have to laugh at it omg 😭

[devine-fem]

Think about how Lois probably realizes that she can never see her son’s cute hand writing, how Lois had to sit alone all by herself when her man and son disappeared and she didn’t know where they were. Think about how Lois had to see Jon’s art projects on the fridge and pull them down, how she probably stares at her little gifts from her baby son… journels and diaries saying “Mom’s Adventure Journel” and realize she’s never getting that excitement again. No more childlike whimsy. Jon’s already ready to leave her.

How she had to throw out all of Jon’s old baby clothes and sell his toys. How Jon never asks her questions due to his childish curiosity of the world. How he doesn’t need it. How he doesn’t need her.

Not even love, he’s trying to find affirmation and structure in someone else entirely.

People are like “people only care about the age up because of damian!” Clark and Lois will always be my biggest concern.

[devine-fem]

dude. jon is not a bundle of sunshine. he’s short tempered and sometimes irrationally because he’s emotional. very emotional and he gets scared, he gets very sad but he has a kind and gentle heart because he does just want to help people to help people, that’s it. jon doesn’t pull punches, he will fight if needed and he’s not willing to judge someone immediately. him being his age made it so his interactions were fun and made for learning curves underneath a very established superhero. he was coming into his own skin and needed to be trained carefully in order to come into his mantle.

this almost emotionless and unfeeling jon kent that tom taylor is pushing as almost a pacifist is an insult to actual pacifist heroes in comics. its like he has this idea that superman can’t be “weak.” he didn’t finish school, he barely interacted with any characters in the dc universe and him being his age AXES so many other characters he knew at the time so THEY will also cease to exist, and jon just flat out lacks maturity. he was no where near ready to be in his mantle a couple years after coming into existence and he’s still not now. these people pushing this “what is wrong with the age up? jon kent age up is fine” is an insult to people who were around when jon kent first came to be in the flashpoint universe. did you read anything besides ssoke???

if you can’t see the issue with the age up when that shit is so in your face then i really do have to question if you like jon kent or if you just like your queer superman doused in insufferable queer sterotypes…

[devine-fem]

Uhm, if you’re going to read a long post of me ranting about Jon Kent then read this one.

if I hadn’t gotten so attached to Jon and his potential then I genuinely understand why people genuinely dislike him. As someone who likes Jon, I just think about how much untapped potential he has and I’ve gotten attached to that. To be fair, I’m starting to get where anti-Jon Kent people are coming from.

he had excellent potential with Damian as his friend during Super Sons but Super Sons had just started and honestly in their universe Jon and Damian AT THE TIME had not known each other for an entire 365 days I don’t think. a lot of Damian and Jon chemistry can be missed and go right over your head if you don’t look closely enough, super sons was more of a setup, it was a layout, and it established something but what it was establishing never truly came to fruition, it was cut short by his age up and then in Robin 2021, Damian separated himself from everyone including Jon and was able to stand on his own two feet. It felt like he did need to detached from Jon because as he is NOW he can’t be anything to Damian and as a die hard Super Sons fan I’m starting to wonder why they’re STILL friends as of right now, Jon is almost grown now and he spent years away from Damian, why does he even still care? Shouldn’t he be trying to move away from Damian and do his own thing as well? Or is he just perpetually stuck with Damian because that was when his character peaked and the writers are aware of that.

I don’t know if he’s ever going to be able to seperate from Damian fully… Damian was almost his entire character to be fair because he never really, really got to be anyone else BUT ‘Damian’s best friend’ and why does JON deserve to be Superman with the stories under his belt? He doesn’t deserve it. I don’t understand why the writers thought that was a good idea, he’s not the Superman anyone really wants and frankly he’s not ready to be Superman for a very long time. The only idea that can support him being Superman is the obnoxious ‘Blood son gets the mantle!’ that DC shoves down your throat and that’s just vapid.

Now his solo comics are filled with toneless, baseless and mind numbing story with no personality and a little queerbaiting on the side… no wonder people don’t like him, I’m starting to really understand that.

As long as Jon is aged up, he also waves away a lot of Damian’s friends out of existence because they had associations to Jon and Jon is no longer those ages so it’s likely these characters will never show again. If you were a fan of those characters that fit under this umbrella then I can’t blame you for not liking the guy… Now characters you loved cease to exist because of some random kid who was dumb enough to take a space trip one day. What’s there to like about Jon Kent anymore? He’s not even really recognizable to fans when he is the way that he is right now.

He’s only really likeable if you only read SSOKE and if you mindlessly cling to any queer representation you see regardless of quality. If you actually did grow an attachment to Jon Kent throughout the years when he was created in Thomas Wayne’s batcave then you’ll have to juggle the weird and alien experience of hating and loving a character as if they are two different characters entirely.

So yeah, I’m starting to get Jon antis. Half of liking Jon Kent is making up story for him and the other half is being an apologist for bs being sold in comic stores as of right now. If you hate the guy I envy you, this is not for the weak - this is not for the weak AT ALL.

[devine-fem]

Chaotic Good: Jason Todd gets tortured for a year as a teen and it becomes his whole character, he’s scarred for life, it breaks him and makes him act out in horrible ways, he works every day to move past the trauma and make it so he can grow as a person and as a hero.

Chaotic Bad: Jonathan Kent is tortured for 5-6 years relentlessly, for his entire childhood and I swear to god, the READER is more affected by it than him.

[devine-fem]

it feels like jon kent is devoloping backwards. its like the writers genuinely have turned this character into a literal spineless nepobaby… its so annoying.

the way he’s wronged in his comics now younger jon would not put up with for a second. a lot of these characters jon interacts with just walks away when instead younger jon would had given them a slap to the face.

its like they think jon should be passive and emotionless - like superman can’t be anything but perfect and god forbid he be weak and succumb to any trauma.

the character coming into superman should be navigating when justice is deserved and when to walk away. jon doesn’t know how to be superman but he’s shackled to that title now. 😭

[devine-fem]

Regarding your Jon post… and yea maybe I’m just beating a dead horse…It’s just….esp. seeing what the fandom has come up with…it’s just upsetting how DC fucked themselves over with the amount of wasted potential Jon had…we were barely scratching the surface with his character.

I wanted to see Jon trying to figure who he is outside of Superman’s shadow while he grew into his teen years. What other friendships could Jon have made outside of Damian (civilian and/or superhero). Maybe Jon (and Damian?) form a super team of his/thier own? Hell even form a superhero identity outside of his association to the Superfamily?

Also, If DC really wanted to do the space trip to show maybe stakes/consequences…they could have aged Jon to close to or same as Damian’s age when he returned and explore his trauma.

Definitely, It’s why I’m convinced that people who enjoy that don’t actually give a damn about Jon. He needs to be explored or what happened to him needs to be undid.

I also think a lot about what it would be like if Jon was gone only for two years instead of 5-6. There wouldn’t really be any complains as long as they explored his trauma because the age he is right now is the age that characters typically take 30 years to even get somewhat close to. It’s sad. All his potential just down the drain.

[kingnd]

It's been roughly a year since Jon came out as Bi & I still hate it. I hate that we live with the fact that Lois & Clark were terrible parents who abandon their son to a mad man. I hate that Jon lost his teenage years being trapped & tortured in a Volcano by Ultraman. I hate that we basically made the LSH a bunch of idiots in need of a White Savior & kept making Jon a nepobaby. I hate that we basically wrote out Damian for the sake of making Nightwing (another character who's garnering the annoying White-Messiah bullshit) his new best buddy & the "real super-sons".

I hate that we can't undo ANY of that because the publisher decided to endorse in some Rainbow Capitalism because Jon doesn't have anything going for him (& STILL doesn't) after the age up, & now we "can't ever go back because it'll be like OMD" all the while gaslighting his fans in with the bigots.

Fuck everything about that development.

[devine-fem]

“people can never bring up why the age up is bad without bringing up super sons” girl, people can never bring up why the age up is alright without bringing up damijon so like we really can’t be talking 😭

[devine-fem]

“jon kent needs to explore ultraman trauma!!”

honestly, that trauma was not ever supposed to be taken seriously i feel like, its comical, ridiculous and at this point just toss it. it was just a way to age him, not to hold weight or depth.

jon had enough going for him with manchester black and other villains that could test him and his family dynamics in interesting ways.

just toss it.

[devine-fem]

theres jonjay even in the nightwing comics were jon appears. his only personality trait is being gay istg