#anti pansmione

[haileylovesskz]

saving myself is filtering out drarry, pansmione, blairon, wolfstar and dramione tags on ao3 <3

[maryslouisv]

drarry and pansmione are the same ships just ones mlm and the other wlw. either way, they’re wrong; draco and pansy bullied harry and hermione (as well as ron & others). enemies to lovers is not bully & victim (this includes dramione as well).

anyway stan rarry, ginmione, hinny, and romione.

[radiohead-spiderman]

(Idk if I should put a content warning but I’m going to just to be safe for; vague mentions of SA. Also this is just how I personally feel about dramione, ship whatever you want)

I will now and forever be a dramione hater, I hate how certain dramione shippers perceive Hermione.

Hermione “brightest witch of her age” Granger would NOT fall head over heels for the guy who bullied her and called her a slur for six years. Also, in what WORLD would Draco ever feel that way about Hermione? Draco was a spoilt little brat who hated muggleborns and thought they were subserviant to purebloods, it wasn’t a “playground crush”, he felt Hermione was beneath him(and NOT beneath him in the way that you guys try to push in fanfics)

Also, ALSO, if the only way you can make Draco a likable love interest is to bash Ron, maybe he’s just a bad love interest.

Don’t even get me STARTED on how heavily sexualized Hermione is sometimes, Jesus Christ it’s like her whole personality is just being a glory hole for Draco at any time of the day it’s GROSS, on that note the amount of SA, specifically of Hermione whether it be from Draco or a third character just to make Draco save her and be a cool good guy, which is in an abundance of dramione’s media is so gross. You give Draco the barest minimum of character development, sometimes not even that, then make Hermione basically just an one dimensional hole with no other characteristics except her sexual prowess, and that’s not saying you can’t make Hermione be comfortable with her sexuality, that’s great, but holy shit is that all she is, is that all the development she gets as a character in your mind??

To make it even worse, Draco is sometimes STILL a piece of shit to her, news flash guys “mudblood” isn’t a silly little insult in the Harry Potter world, it’s a derogatory slur!

It’s not even enemies to lovers! At all! Drarry is enemies to lovers! Dramione is just bully x bullied, oppressed x oppressor at the worst.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk ig, stan drarry and romione

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[mxlfoydraco]

i saw this post: “bitches in fandoms will use "the women aren't well developed characters and they're boring bc the writers are misogynists and didn't give them anything >:(((" as an excuse to never talk about any female characters but then they'll have an entire made up backstory and 700 fics on ao3 for background male character #4 who doesn't have a canonical last name. “

and this relates sooo much to hp fandom. i love drarry and wolfstar but sometimes the things i see about reg is just kinda… that. we are talking about his door sign (bc ofc we read this glimpse in the book) and his story is very good indeed since he’s like an anti-hero but idk if it’s bc the original writing but we don’t talk much about the female characters that much. like i’ve never seen bunch of fics that detail hermione dealing with her parents after the war, how they could have felt betrayed that she made then forget their whole lives. i read one hermione/millicent fic that talks abt it but nothing… deeper. we don’t see much abt pansy potentially breaking down after trying to give harry to voldemort. my point is we never explore much of these characters. i’ve never seen fic festivals abt them. it’s all about the men in the universe and don’t get me wrong i love them but i wish we’d put more effort in writing wlw media and that we could discuss a female character’s little things or traumas.

i’m sending this to you bc i love your blog and i’m looking for more sapphic content! and i’m begging other ppl in hp fandom to reflect on it. anyway if you have any blog or fic recs that really focus on the female characters, i’d like to know! sorry if there’s any mistake, english isn’t my first language

I think this is a really nuanced topic and yes there is truth in the message of the post and what you’re saying but it’s also not the whole picture if that makes sense? It would require like an essay on fandom, gender and sexuality to explore M/M vs F/F topic (and there are many great ones!).

I want to approach it from a different angle with my reply, that they do exist. Pandora, Mary, Dorcas and Marlene are also only named in canon but have a big fanon presence. There are people who write and engage with female characters to that depth and with so much passion.

They’re not as visible, I agree, but it’s a self-perpetuating issue. They also feel alone in creating their works even though there are multiple, several posts like this. I’m gonna tag some accounts to check out down below, please use them as a jumping point to connect with creatives!

@hpsaffics @femmefest @fleurmioneweek sapphicspringfest @hpwlwbigbang @hpfemslash-minifest @hpfemslashweek @hpfemslashficrecs-blog @hpfemslash @hpfemships @harrypotterfemslash @thehpfemslashnet @hpfemslashnetwork @hpfemsecretsanta HP single mums Pansyfest @dirtygrangerfest @lunalovegoodfest @hermiones-haven @astoriafest @sapphicnovember @flonksfest femslashficlets @harrypotterfemslashcentral @andromedafreed @pansmione-archive

Also, if any of my followers and mutuals have female-centric or femslash works they’d like to share, please reply to this with your links!

[moonlightdancer26]

What's the most overated "Harmony moments" in your opinion? Could you make a top of them 5 please? 😉

Hi!! First of all, THANK YOU for the anti Harmony ask!! Much appreciated! <33

Edit cause I forgot to mention: When your ask first got sent, I thought you said overhated Harmony moments and I got pissed. XD

I don’t know 5 Harmony “moments” (shows how little evidence its shippers have), but I’ll list as much so-called evidence as I can. And I’m gonna list it in no particular order cause if I’m being perfectly honest… I hate them all equally.

[Also, I won’t include movie moments cause that’s immediately debunked by the fact that it isn’t canon.]

Aight, let’s get to work:

1. Hermione noticing that Harry grew an inch (in height): “And it doesn’t hurt that you’ve grown about a foot over the summer either.”

Noticing a big change in your best friend’s appearance means nothing, it merely means that you have eyes. Hermione was telling Harry why girls are getting more attracted to him now and listed points to help him understand, she was simply analysing and making logical conclusions. It doesn’t mean that she herself finds Harry attractive.

2. Harry getting pissed over Hermione going with Cormac: [“Serves you right for coming with him,” he told her severely.] … [“You considered Smith?” said Harry, revolted.]

In this scene, Harry didn’t want her going out with either Cormac or Zacharias. Apparently the shippers think Harry was “jealous” in this scene. Cormac and Zacharias are both creeps and bullies, it’s perfectly normal that Harry didn’t want his best friend going out with either of them. And Harry obviously knew Hermione and Ron both liked each other, so it’s no wonder that Hermione going out with a creep who Ron hates just to annoy him (Hermione flat-out admitted it to Harry) would anger Harry.

We would’ve known if Harry was jealous because a) he’s Mr. Point Of View so it would literally just be spelled out for us and b) in the same book, he was described as having “a monster pounding in his chest” (or something like that) when jealous about Ginny, so I think we’d have seen something similar in that scene if Harry were actually jealous and if Harmony shippers weren’t just making shit up.

3. Harry’s description of her at the Yule Ball.

Pretty much the sole two purposes of the Yule Ball being written was to make Ron look like an asshole (can you tell I’m fucking pissed about that? Fuck Rowling) and to show Hermione’s big glow-up (but of course the next day she transforms right back because she has to be “relatable uwu~🥺🤪✨”).

Everyone was in awe of her beauty, every single person there, hell, even Draco and Pansy were too. Does that count as Dramione and Pansmione evidence? 🤨

Acknowledging that someone looks attractive does not necessarily mean you find them attractive. It’s like: “Yes, objectively, they look good, but I myself do not find them attractive.”

This is all I could manage, there are some more Harmony “moments” but they’re so tiny to the point where I genuinely could not give a fuck. The three I’ve listed are the most popular and are the ones that bring out the rage in me.

Again, thank you for the anti Harmony ask! Have a great day! <33

[siriuslythatbitch]

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[upthehillart]

I want to discuss Pansy..

Warning: The topic of racism is addressed, specifically in relation to Pansy x Hermione ship. So I’ll put all my rambling under the cut.

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Alright. I’ve received some messages questioning the morality of Pansmione. Now, this ain’t news or anything (it’s a long time coming tbh since I draw them a lot), and it’s far from being the only ship that tends to be interrogated, but it IS one of the only ones that actually carry the element of real racism - not the pure-blood stuff but race. I had read some posts and discourse online over the years, but I still feel inclined to make my own post and gather your opinions.

Now, personally, I love Pansmione. I love what they are in my head. I’ve reconciled the realities and nuances of this ship privately and in my own way and I’m able to enjoy them and find this pairing fulfilling and meaningful.

However, just to set the record straight, regardless of what headcanons anyone might come up with, canon Pansy IS an awful, racist, hateful person exhibiting almost zero redeeming qualities. I mean, she WAS sympathetic to her friends, like Draco, but they were all awful people so it’s not much of an argument. She’s a bully, period. (And if anyone is unclear about how Pansy has exhibited racism, she basically called Angelina’s afro braids to look like “worms coming out of [her] head”). Since Hermione is now commonly portrayed as black/POC now - by me, too - pairing her with Pansy gets extra tricky and raises issues - which is fair.

Secondly, I AM white, which means that I possess the privilege to even be able to reconcile with Pansy’s canon racism, unlike many other fans. I can’t ever forget about it, nor should I, but whenever I draw them, I do imply that Pansy’s a better person now. I feel like the fact that enjoying Pansmione can sometimes be a matter of privilege brings forth its own issues as well. Additionally, I know it gets even more complicated if Pansy’s portrayed as non-white herself (e.g. East Asian), and as a white person, I don’t know how to even begin to navigate this correctly...

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So, how do we approach a character like Pansy, who is basically the only one (to my memory - correct me if I’m wrong!) who exhibited actual racial prejudice, one that may hit home directly to many fans? Is it wrong to give canon Pansy a fanon chance?

When looking at the real world and specifically at individual racism, I feel like the thing that moves us forward is not pretending that racism didn’t happen, or just eternally condemning the wrongdoer and turning away; what actually IS a productive step forward is for those at fault to learn and realize their racism, put effort into changing it, and compensating the hurt. That’s what progress essentially is - growth - and growth is good and sometimes deserves its own spotlight.

This principle is basically what fundamentally supports and justifies my like for Pansmione. That people, even the problematic ones, CAN deserve further character development and deserve the permission to grow up, learn, and become better (because nobody is born perfect and all-knowing). Pansy was never created/meant to be such a character, but just because that’s the reality in canon, it doesn’t mean she shouldn’t deserve to be given that by a fan that wants to. In a way, THAT is what IS actively progressive (- Do you agree or disagree?).

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But when it comes to fanart, it gets more tricky because, unlike something like fanfiction, it cannot tell a fleshed-out story. It requires the viewer to use their own imagination and come up with the story themselves, or at least fill in the big gaps. And if you’re a viewer that finds Pansy’s character irreversibly uncomfortable or offensive, those gaps become impossible to fill in a manner that I can, for example. As a result, Pansmione then becomes repulsive.

So what, as a fanartist, can I do? What are my options? Does the fact that I, by default, can’t always communicate the complexities of the backstory in every fanart mean that some things - aka some ships - are inevitably and by default not okay to draw at all?

And in general, is Pansy just simply too problematic? Is today just “neither the time nor the place” for her and what she might represent? Is it immoral to attempt to make her, and ships with her, moral? My convictions disagree, but I’m always open to the fact I might not be informed enough, or too privileged.

That’s why I really want to hear your thoughts, especially from HP fans that are black and might find this matter even more personal. But everyone is welcome to pitch in. How does this ship make you feel? Is it uncomfortable to you? Do you like it, and if so, how do you make it work, how do you reconcile the inseparable canon reality of Pansy’s character?

Share your thoughts only if you feel comfortable and however you feel comfortable (comment, reblog, ask, DM, etc.)! Don’t feel afraid to provide constructive criticism regarding this topic too, I want to hear! I hope it makes sense what I’m trying to communicate, thank you so much for contributing!!

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(P.S. For anyone even asking, “WHY care about Pansy at all? There are plenty more female characters to care about in HP” - I hear it, I get it, and yet, despite my many attempts to rationalize my like for Pansy, I always fail. Giving more positive representation to Slytherins? Being a big fan of redemption arcs? Enjoying enemies to lovers tropes? Drawn to relationship dynamics that aren’t easy/simple? Am I into this dark sassy character concept/aesthetic? Projecting my own personal struggles with growth and balancing inner “light” and “dark”? Any other reason? No single one of them seems to fully explain it, I guess they all play a part. So yeah, idk... It’s more than okay for people not to like Pansmione, but I do.)

[romqnticstylez]

The Golden Trio and Ginny discovering Harry Potter Fanon Pairings but it’s the Part 2 no one asked for

Hi. So basically, I’m bored. This is the result of it. Btw, just saying this might not have the same format as last time because I have a pea brain that can’t remember things. Any who...

Blairon

Harry: Isn’t that the guy who said he’d never date a ‘blood traitor’?

Ron: I don’t know if this is good or bad,  I’ve never even met this guy before, so uh...okay.

Hermione: BACK OFF MY MAN WHOEVER YOU ARE  😡 😡 🔪 🔪 🔪

Ginny: Eww not Zabini.

Pansmione

Harry: no

Ron: Why though

Hermione: Isn’t she obsessed with Draco? Plus she bullied me. I couldn’t care less about her honestly.

Ginny: *laughing because wtf*

Hedric (He isn’t dead shut up)

Harry: . . .He was cute though 😳 😳 😳 😳

Ron: WHY CEDRIC HUH HUH WHAT’S SO GOOD IN HIM? HARRY COULD DO BETTER THAN THAT. 

Hermione: Not bad.

Ginny: I’m not jealous. Honest. Like really, it’s hot.

Snarry

Harry: *screaming loudly and jumping into Ron’s arms*

Ron: *screaming loudly as Harry*

Hermione: *screaming while squeezing Ron to death who doesn’t notice*

Ginny: *screaming while hanging onto Ron’s back*

Snamione

Harry: Guys let’s go back to Ronarry and Hedric

Ron: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Hermione: Hermione.exe has stopped working

Ginny: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Voldarry/Tomarry

Harry: FUCK YOU

Ron: I’ve never in my life been so glad I’m not Harry

Hermione: Please I don’t want to see Voldmione/Tomione please I’ll not read books for a day please

Ginny: WHAT DID MY BEAU DO TO YOU? FIRST MALFOY THEN SNAPE NOW RIDDLE? WHAT’S NEXT? HIM AND THE TOAD?

Voldmione/Tomione

Harry: Can I go 

Ron:  Why do you hate her so much though

Hermione: TAKE ME BACK TO HOGWARTS

Ginny: 🤢

Voldinny/Tominny

Harry: This has been censored

Ron: This has been censored

Hermione: Oh Ginny, come here, you need a hug.

Ginny: This has been censored

Harmione

Harry: Sorry but I’m into redheads with freckles who have brown or blue eyes.

Ron: I’m just glad it’s not...not, Fenrir Greyback or something.

Hermione: My type is Ronald Bilius Weasley. Sorry not sorry Harry.

Ginny: Actually, I was kind of jealous during my first year. Then I realized Ron and Hermione are crazy for each other, soo...

(I don’t what some these pairings are normally called. So I’m changing up the italic part)

No this isn’t a pairing that includes any of the four, but how could I not?Deamus 

Harry: You know, I’ve always thought there was something there. 

Ron: Interesting

Hermione: YES

Ginny: Dean spent a lot of time talking about Seamus when we were together. 

Lunarry

Harry: We’re friends so nice but, no offense to her, she kind of makes me uncomfortable. She’s a good friend, but when we were at Slughorn’s Christmas party in 6th year I remember staring at Ginny, turning around, finding Luna staring at me. I don’t think I had ever prayed for something harder than I prayed she didn’t speak.

Ron: lol

Hermione: Do NOT ruin my OTP  I don’t see how Harry could deal with her non-existent creatures but she’s cool anyways.

Ginny: Pfft, you think her type is Harry? Wait Harry, I’m sorry-

Ron/Luna

Harry: ok

Ron: Not bad I guess?

Hermione: Whatever. *Possessive scowl*

Ginny: Cute :)

Bellamione

Harry: So we couldn’t stay on actually kind of good ships? No? Thank you so fucking much, I appreciate it.

Ron: Bellatrix? Bellatrix? Bellatrix bloody Lestrange? THE WOMAN WHO TORTURED HER?

Hermione: Brb I need to have a mental breakdown

Ginny: If you tell me about something called Bellinny I WILL FUCKING MURDER YOU DO NOT TEST ME

Linny

Harry: Can I watch 👀  

Ron: If it was Hermione and Luna 👀👀👀  

Hermione: I thought they were just friends though?? Okay never mind this is heaven after most of the others.

Ginny:  😳 😳 😳 😳

[bleurandwolfstararethebestships]

i’m gonna rant again (about two things):

1-

hardcore hp cannon ships fans scare me. i literally heard one comparing fannon shippers with parents doing arrange marriages, wtf

yes, i do think ron and harry could have ended up together, and yes, i like them together more than romione or hinny. it doesn’t mean that i’m gonna engage my child with someone they don’t love, cuz yk, one thing is FICTIONAL, and the other one is REAL

also, if we’re applying that logic then jkr is also into arranged marriages, cuz she created characters and paired them up with other characters without asking them if they actually love them (ik it sounds ridiculous, but that’s how these ppl sound like)

2-

when i say i like fannon couples i don’t mean couples that give a redemption to shitty characters through a good character bcs they are “hot” *coff coff* dramione/drarry *coff coff* or couples that had one to zero good interactions but are shipped bcs they are two males *coff coff* blairon*coff coff*. when i say i like fannon couples i mean that i like couples that actually had good interactions with each other (ronarry, ginmione, linny, deamus, etc), and before someone comes at me with me shipping linny, they are canonically friends and canonically ginny defended her of her bullies. and before someone comes at me for shipping wolfstar, they are also canonically friends.

however, i do get that ppl love the enemies to lovers (i love it too) but some of the ships mentioned above are NOT enemies to lovers, it’s just abuser/victim or just pure fetishization. in my case if i wanted an enemies to lovers, i could hc harry a slytherin and make ron “hate” him bcs of that, or make them have a bad first interaction with some kind of miscommunication or smth like that.

i’m gonna get this clear, ship whatever u want, i couldn’t care less as long as is not pedophilic or incest, u do u, i’m just ranting about things that bother me, that’s all.

[big-ronnev-fan]

I'm at the point where I only read dr*rry for the side ships

[radiohead-spiderman]

Dramione is so icky to me and I’ll never understand it, it’s not enemies to lovers at ALL, Draco just bullies her for seven years and that’s apparently supposed to make us want them to be together?? I’ll never get it and personally will never like it also drarry solos

[diademsandtiaras]

james x hermione is like an actual ship?? why?? ppl need to stop shipping hermione with everyone in the series, especially GROWN MEN (she never even met james? and yes i mean james potter, it’s terrifying honestly)

[lazilycoolpinkbird]

Hermione Granger would be the number one hater of any and all Hermione Granger x her bullies or abusers ships if she were a real person.

[nicksreggies]

what is it with y’all shipping ppl with the blood supremacists slytherins 😭

you just want your enemies to lovers huh..

like wood doesn’t deserved to be shipped with flint. oliver literally said he would kill him and the rest of the slytherin team if he couldn’t get away with it. and flint’s a canonical blood supremacist. leave ollie alone he did nothing to deserve this kind of mistreatment.

and pans/mione, too. pansy’s literally racist and she bullied hermione. but yeah they’re in love.

not to mention dram/ione. like what even is that. what is it. why is it a thing.

and bla/iron.. y’all they never/hardly interacted okay. plus blaise is a jerk.

like PLEASE stop shipping characters with the racists and blood supremacists, especially when their only interactions were NEGATIVE ones in which only BAD things happened.

i’m just being salty at this point, don’t come at me pls.

[roonilwazlibweasley]

Hermione was canonically a poc, and Pansy canonically was racist. Tell me how exactly Pansmione would work?