#anti stelena

[staliaqueen]

Rewatcing TVD season 5 and I'm on 5x04 where Stefan has his memory loss and I'm having a lot of Steroline thoughts so I'mma just dump 'em all here.

So first thing that happens is drunk Stefan calls Caroline hot when he first sees her, establishing that he does find her attractive on a baseline level. Meaning, he probably would've noticed her when he came to Mystic Falls if he wasn't so distracted by having found a doppelgänger of the girl that turned him into a vampire.

Then there's the difference between how Elena and Caroline handle amnesia!Stefan's bloodlust. Elena, in classic her-fashion, makes it all about herself. You were a great boyfriend to me. You never scared me. So, naturally, when he tries to kiss her and she tells him she's with his brother now, he feels betrayed and runs off. Elena tried to get him to remember by recreating how they met, she distracts him from his bloodlust by telling him all about their relationship. It works temporarily, but this makes it so that Stefan ties his control to being around Elena ("Whatever monster I was capable of being, I could see why I was different around you.") so when he finds out about her and Damon, his control goes down with their relationship.

But when Caroline sees him feeding on Jessie, she tells him, "This isn't you. Okay, you might not remember, but I do. You are better than this! You are not this person." Not only does she solely tie it to who Stefan is as a person, but as a byproduct, she informs Stefan that he has other people who care about him besides his ex and brother. It's no wonder she's the only one he trusts after that. And then she and Stefan agree on a plan for her to call him every hour to check in, because Caroline prioritises making sure Stefan's okay before making sure that he remembers. ("I don't want my brother's advice. I don't wanna hear how I supported you, Elena. [...] Don't worry, I'm not gonna go on a ripper binge. Besides, Caroline said she'd call me every hour to make sure I was okay, and, uh... I actually do trust her.")

And then there's the scene in the Salvatore Tomb before Bonnie's funeral where Stefan comforts Caroline. It's in my, like, top 10 scenes of theirs at least. ("Me. You have me. Look, you were there for me last night. Sounds like you're always there for me. So let me be there for you.") Elena told him that he always showed her and others compassion, but that doesn't do much when she disrespected him by lying by omission about their history and the fact that she left him for his brother. Caroline tells him that he's a compassionate person and then backs it up by showing him compassion. So when Stefan sees her hurting, he wants to return that. He puts his own worries aside for the time being, asks her what's wrong, says he wishes he could remember Bonnie, offers physical comfort and tells her he'll still be there for her despite him not remembering their friendship, because he sees how much she does for him and others and he knows she deserves it.

[hydesjackiespuddinpop]

Stefan: wants revenge on Klaus for the shit he pulled on him, even going as far as to almost drive the love of his life off of Wickery Bridge. Knowing that that her parents almost died and where she almost died.

Fandom: Stefan has every right to hate Klaus!!! He didn’t actually do it!!! His humanity was off (it was on and yes he was dealing with the guilt and pain, but I’m not gonna go dismiss my baby girl’s trauma either).

Tyler: wants revenge on Klaus for killing him, forcing him into becoming a hybrid, making him into his slave, forced him to bite his gf, killed his mother (aka his last living family member) because Tyler dared to save innocent hybrids from being sired, killed his pack, and drove him out of his hometown. Tearfully leaves because while he loves Caroline, he doesn’t want to live under a psychopath’s thumb and wants justice. Keep in mind that he didn’t abuse Caroline in the process unlike something a certain Salvatore brother did to the love of his life.

Fandom: T-Tyler is such a dick! He chose revenge over Caroline! He hates Klaus more than he loves Caroline! How dare he not grieve the way his girlfriend wanted him to! Klaus/Stefan would never!

[writinginthesecrettrees]

Rebekah: You broke up? I thought Elena was your epic love. What happened? Stefan: She slept with Damon. Me: AFTER you guys broke up, Stefan. Stop acting like she cheated on you.

And yet no one calls him on it! Gawd he acts like such a victim!!!

[jennifersminds]

Am I your dream girl? You think of me in bed but you could never hold me you like me better in your head. Dream Girl Evil - Florence + the Machine (insp.)

[fieldsofwax]

Will never understand the needless morality logic Stefan stans place around their love for Stefan (which only ever seems to exist to hate on Damon). I will always prefer a man that kills for an emotional reason over a man that kills just due to the lust to kill. Bloodlust is a desire just as much as “I killed him because I wanted to”-Damon always kills for humanity/emotional reasons. It’s just that stefan denies that bloodlust is a desire, while Damon admits his desire. Will always prefer a man that owns his flaws instead of denies them. I guess it’s my personal emotional bias, that denial of flaws imo is less redeemable than reveling in one’s flaws (Damon). Denial of flaws (and looking down on other’s) is the whole basis of the Christian white supremacist b.s. I’ve lived under my whole life.

[blairwaldcrf]

But say I do leave her here under your protection, what then?

[tvd 3x13 | every klefan scene ?/?]

[whitedemon-ladydeath]

bleh hate the Stefan girlies who blame Elena for everything and their break up. See I remember when not too much earlier Srefan was doing everything in his power to push Elena away, including threatening to drive her off wickery bridge (WITH HIS HUMANITY ON) to get back at Klaus. Stefan is to blame for a solid bit of their relationship falling apart stop blaming everything on the teenage girl

[cuddlyreader]

Hi! Since we both consider delena and leyton among our favorite ships, I'm so curious which one you dislike more: brucas or stelena?

Stelena. Period. I cannot stand Stefan at all.

[elena-mikaelson]

I saw a reel the other week highlighting the fact that Elena basically lost 6 parental figures before she even graduated, and at one point her brother. So no wonder she cried a lot. I really don't get why people hate her so much. Yeah she's not perfect and she messed up at times, but she definitely does not deserve all the hate she gets.

She was a teenage girl who made mistakes! Most teenagers are not dealing with life and death decisions! Caroline was turned into a vampire because Katherine wanted to mess with Elena and the Salvatores (and to have a vampire to sacrifice for the sun and moon curse.) Bonnie died, Jeremy died, Vicki was turned and died.

I think another element to the hate is that when Damon was abusing Caroline, Elena saw it and she hated him. Stefan knew and told him to lay off, that Caroline wasn't a toy, but was in no position to overpower Damon. So Caroline was abused and raped.

Then they wanted Elena and Damon to start to be a thing, and if they addressed that Elena knew the extent of the abuse/if Caroline had told her and Bonnie--Damon wouldn't be an option/dead. So they just ignored it. They made little jokes "enjoy your time with Miss Mystic, I know I did."

Which made many think that Elena knew the extent of what he did to one of her best friends, and that she wasn't a girls girl, and was a terrible friend to Caroline and Bonnie. Which placed the blame of bad and inconsistent writing onto the fandom's perception of Elena and not the entire show.

I cannot imagine a timeline where Caroline told season 2 Bonnie and Elena and they didn't kill Damon.

I feel like perception of Elena is really tied to her relationships with the Salvatores, how she treated them (nevermind they have minimum 150 years of age to her 17), if she ended up with the "right one" and for the overall toxicity of D*lena specifically.

[userlaylivia]

Delena

&

Stelena

delena:

I LOOOOOVE THEM SO MUCH MY OTP OF ALL OTPS THEIR BUILDUP GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT WAS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT I'LL NEVER LOVE ANOTHER SHIP AS MUCH AS THEM THEY ARE MY BBS FOREVER!! 💞💕💗💖

stelena:

I can't stand them, their one of my biggest notps and no matter how many times I rewatch I can't ship them!! s1&2 I can tolerate them but after that just no!! they actually were unhealthy and toxic in S3&4 and that's all I'll say because I have amazing mutuals who ship them and I don't wanna insult them lol

[supermanandlois3]

The sexual tension in the scene is off the charts. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[fearlessfairy]

Elena's speech about how happy she was when she was in the local abuser's bed the whole summer like she was never happy with Stefan, that made me quit stelena.

[hydesjackiespuddinpop]

Me telling @tamlinsffiddle about Stefan almost driving Elena off of wickery bridge. This was a fun convo ngl.

[petrovadoppleganger]

honestly elena ending up with stefan after everything that happened between them and between her and damon would have completely destroyed literally any character growth/progression that happened for the three of them and i genuinely do not understand anyone who wanted that to happen from a storytelling perspective

[jennifersminds]

stelena vs delena will always be so unserious because each side of the fandom will be like “our ship is superior because he abused her less!!!”

and look when i say i love a good old enemies to lovers with tons of emotional baggage i mean dair and elejah (we have taste 😌) and not chair & delena/stelena like how ppl lose their morals for such creepy ugly men amazes me

no bc it's so funny like,-

Stelenas: Damon was so toxic, he manipulated Elena and never respected her autonomy

Stefan: Stalking Elena for months, trying to drive her off a bridge

Delenas: Stefan was so abusive, he tried to drive Elena off a bridge, bit her, and slept with Rebekah just bc Elena didn't love him

Damon: killed Elena's brother, also bit her, also slept with Rebekah just bc Elena didn't love him

like,, the call is coming from inside the house. And the argument is literally never going to end because both sides are right, but also wrong with zero self-awareness.

and yes !!! controversial but enemies to lovers only work when the man is simping while hating otherwise it's just icky. He has to multitask- fight and kneel at once or I don't want it lmao

[fieldsofwax]

I swear to god every time I get a Stelena/Stefan Stan arguing with me or worshipping Stefan it all comes down to them not knowing the difference between facts and emotional opinions. Please society, learn media literacy and humanities. Realize that morality and ethics are based on opinions and evolve over time. Admit that the way we view art is based on interpretation, and depends on our own emotional bias.