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lord-angelfish · 2 years
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Bahahaha bestie I just blocked a destiheller who decided to leave a very kind paragraph reply to one of my posts about Sam and Dean
Apperantly they think that "Sam is evil and a horrible influence on dean" and that "Sam is far from innocent and ruined the whole world of supernatural for everyone, especially dean and cas, and they should have killed him off in the beginning of the show so he couldn't ruin anyone else's lives" (they also then went on to rant a little bit about dean and cas suffering, which I thought was funny)
I blocked them, and so sadly it deleted that reply, but I wish I had screenshotted it because it made me laugh so hard 😂
Omg no why 💀💀
Like I get it if you hate a character, you're entitled to your opinion even if it's wrong - but why do people go and do that?? Like the audacity needed to go onto someone else's post and start ranting about how they're wrong about something so subjective is impressive in the worst way. I'm so so sorry that people are so divorced from reality here, it's so weird.
Also I hate to be that guy but uhhhh there kind of wouldn't be a show without Sam... he's kind of a major plot point... for the whole thing..... I'm not anti Cas or destiel by any means, but like. Cas and Destiel are not the entirety of the show and imo shouldn't be (the bros are simply too delicious to give up their dynamics <3).
And I mean also!! - how can you even hate Sam, he's just a little guy!! He's done nothing wrong in his life ever barring the multiple murders and/or apocalypses how could you hate this face :(
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copperbadge · 1 year
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You know, it used to be that every time I left the internet for a few days, to go camping or whatnot -- in the days before smartphones, or early in their existence when coverage was slim -- that fandom on livejournal would explode. A number of huge wanks happened while I was physically and spiritually afk, and it was like returning to an apocalypse. I'd get back and immediately have to post about how I had been in the goddamn woods and did not know what was going on.
So it's nice to be so out of sync with the US that news is reaching me late but all the screaming is happening on Twitter, about which I have not cared since roughly 2009.
I hope the ghosts of Chadwick Boseman and Terry Pratchett are having a good laugh.
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thefriendlypigeon · 2 years
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OOPS my hand slipped and it drew Joel Miller having a quick questionable wank in the middle of the apocalypse :>
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wannab-urs · 9 months
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The Spreadsheet Digest - Vol 28
Hello my darlings,
Welcome to TSD week 28! I read some stuff this week that is definitely going in my all time faves list, seriously. Y'all are amazing. I've got 14 fics for you this week!! (Joel Miller, Frankie/Santi, Ezra, Din Djarin, Dieter Bravo, Max Phillips, Frankie Morales, Dieter/Javi P, Marcus Pike, Javier Peña). Summaries and tags are author provided unless they didn't have them (then I did it myself).
As always you can find all my fic recs here and my masterlist here
Recs under the Baby Cow Eyes
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Cosmic Oddities - Din/Joel series by fromthewhales (Ao3)
Summary: Turning a clan of two into a clan of four and asking the very important, albeit unhinged question: What if space dad and apocalypse dad were Weird About Each Other? (ed. note: this summary does not do this beautiful fic justice. READ IT). Tags: parental bonding, parallels, angst, everyone has issues, everyone needs a hug, touch starved din djarin, injuries, strangers to ??? to lovers, smashing the space western and the zombie western together like 2 ken dolls, trauma, crack-fic adjacent at times, hurt/comfort, soft not super explicit smut, self harm, found family, din djarin eventually removes the helmet, blindfold, long distance relationship, survivors guilt, angst with a happy ending, non sexual intimacy, it gets worse before it gets better, alcohol mention, game II canon divergent — but boy does it come close, canon typical violence, minor character death, major character injury, bi!joel miller, bi!din djarin
To be explored later - Frankie/Santi one shot by @legendary-pink-dot
Summary: You and your boyfriend Santi fuck his best friend Frankie and it's a little more MMF than you were expecting -- much to your delight Tags: Swearing, dirty talk, rough-ish sex, hair pulling, oral sex (m receiving), a couple of spanks, edging if you squint, also yearning m/m if you squint, unprotected PIV, snowballing, threesome, dom!Santi.
sweets for my sweet; sweets from my sweet - Ezra one shot by @tinytinymenace
Summary: you are a cook at an exploration camp and one of the miners asks you about Earth and brings you a treat Tags: Brief mentions of planet death (RIP Earth) and strained family dynamics but on balance this is soft.
Release Your Inhibitions - Din one shot by @beskarandblasters
Summary: Shortly after revealing his face to you, Din’s worried about the faces he makes during sex, since he’s never had to worried about that before. You suggest something that might ease his worries; a blindfold. Tags: canon divergent, established relationship, Din is insecure and inexperienced, helmet comes off, blindfolding, oral sex (M receiving), vaginal sex, light biting, creampie, super romantic and loving sex, use of Mando’a words/phrases (Cyar’ika = sweetheart, Ni kar'tayli gar darasuum = I love you, Yooba solus mesh'la = You are beautiful), no use of y/n
Best in Show - Dieter one shot by @covetyou
Summary: The Academy Awards, the most well known, well planned, film award ceremony in the world. So why is the host missing? Tags: dual narrative, masturbation (m), voyuerism, drug reference (our boy is sober but struggling), subby Dieter, slight humiliation kink, very brief mentions of other sex acts (anal play, PIV, cum play), reader talks Dieter through a very nervy wank.
Still Bejeweled - Joel one shot by @janaispunk
Summary: after breaking up with your boyfriend, your self-esteem is crushed. your best friend takes you to your favorite bar to take your mind off of things. there's a band is playing there tonight and the singer immediately catches your eye. inspired by taylor swift's bejeweled – and when i meet the band, they ask, 'do you have a man?', i could still say, 'i don't remember' Tags: no/pre-outbreak au, no sarah, musician!joel, small age gap (reader is in her late 20s, joel's in his mid 30s), reader is described as smaller than joel and has hair long enough to pull, a bit of angst, fluff, making out, fingering, dirty talk (joel talks you through it, i just know it), praise kink, unprotected p in v (i just didn't feel like mentioning it, this is my fantasy world where pregnancies & sti's don't exist, but they very much exist in the real world, don't do this), joel has a big dick (it's canon), consent king joel, rough sex, ass-slapping, hair-pulling
Negotiations - Max Phillips one shot by @prolix-yuy
Summary: Max Phillips never found marketing to be all that helpful. Hell, running an ad on Facebook was easy enough. But then you walked in the door and he knew he had to have you, in all the ways he could. Tags: T, descriptions of male and female bodies, some fantasizing and suggestive themes.
Under the Stars - Joel one shot by @undercoverpena
Summary: joel finds that you become a thing of unnatural order, all ethereal as the moonlight kisses your curves. Tags: post outbreak. smut. oral sex (m receiving). tying joel up with rope. cutting joel free with a knife. p in v. jo's spelling. feelings, but joel-feelings. softer!joel
Apotheosis - Din series by @beskarandblasters
Summary: Din Djarin is a force-sensitive bounty hunter, working for the remnants of the Empire. He's on the hunt for you, an ex-rebel spy who has key information; the location where Luke Skywalker is building his Jedi training academy. But when you're captured, you're not going to give up the location easily. Din will have to utilize “alternative methods” to turn you over to the dark side. Tags: canon divergent, dark!Din, switches between Din and Reader’s point of view, eventual smut, Star Wars lore (not super heavy), manipulation/gaslighting, murder/minor character death, no use of y/n
Home - Frankie series by @dancingtotuyo
Summary: Frankie always comes home to you. Tags: fluff, angst, girl dad!frankie, recovering!Frankie, references to drug use, references to violence, trauma, healing.
Met the Devil Last Night - Joel one shot by @pedgito
Summary: I made a joke about wanting to screw dirt-covered Joel even if he was deep in the trenches of hell and...well, yeah. This is pure filth and nothing else. Tags: Porn with minuscule plot, if you willfem!reader, demon!joel, no specific age gap since dude is a literal demon, but reader is early 20s and I picture Joel to be his younger self (around 36), mentions of su*cidal ideations, this all a completely made up concept pls don't come for me about rituals, ect i will cry. virgin!reader, reader's father is a priest and horrible (just a total douche)/mother isn't alive, spitting, oral, unprotected piv, blood drinking, competency kink, innocence kink, mutual masturbation
Pearl Rosary - Din one shot by @sweetercalypso
Summary: Priest of Mandalore!Din Djarin listens to your sins during confession Tags: public(ish) sex, finger sucking, deepthroating, cock worship, facial, reader is a Mandalorian who takes her helmet off, so much religious imagery
Good Boy - Dieter/Javi P one shot @ramblers-lets-get-ramblin
Summary: Dieter gets cucked. That's it. That's the fic. Tags: cucking, PIV, creampie, oral sex f receiving, cum eating, PWP/plot what plot?, dom!Javi, sub!dieter, idk what reader is... having a good time?
Whatta Man - Marcus Pike series by @atinylittlepain
Summary: He's looking for something other than vanilla, and she is more than happy to provide such a service to him. Tags: this is smut, pegging, rimming, sucking and fucking, sex work, lowkey sugardaddy!marcus, sweet shy marcus getting his world rocked, and then pancakes and a blackberry and a black american express card so ya know, the works.
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in the a.m. - javier peña loose fit series
Summary: Between sleeping with informants and getting in bed with Los Pepes in the fight to bring down Escobar, Javier Peña also finds time to be with you. Wrestling with crippling self hatred, Javi tries and fails to keep his blood stained hands off of you. Based on some of my favorite Arctic Monkeys songs &lt;3 Tags: smoking, probably shit spanish, smut, angst, established situationship, emotionally unavailable!Javi, references to past arguments/past hookups because this has been an ongoing thing and I love to start in the middle of a story, loose fit series, trauma, probably, sad!Javi, self hating!Javi, Javi very briefly picks you up, Javi crying, Javi yelling, reader yelling, did I mention angst?
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themetalvirus · 1 year
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"silver is such an innocent boy 🥺" i hope you explode
like its fun to draw him as just a little guy but omfg i feel like non-silverheads forget that he successfully killed sonic in one of the 06 timelines. and that he loves throwing cars at people. and he survived in the fire apocalypse ALONE working nonstop to keep a giant fire demon at bay. he mugged tails please do not forget he mugged tails omfg
people writing him like his inner life is frolicking thru flowers and riding on unicorns and not. i mean this is just my interpretation of him. a swirling cesspool of anxiety and dread and possible stewing ptsd and grasping for a solution to the problem at hand nonstop. some folks seem to imagine him just thinking about nothing at all
its fun when hes silly goofy or doesnt know something about the past or like, how to have a social interaction. hes a cute little apple enjoying juice drinking guy but hes making pipe bombs
i ❤️ fandom wank i ❤️ fandom wank
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canmom · 2 years
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on D&D
there have been many a Posten floating across my slice through the tumblr database of late on the flaws of Dungeons & Dragons. this is an old, old argument - pushed by the White Wolf fans before my time, raised to a furious pitch by the Forge movement (Ron Edwards infamously declared that D&D players have brain damage), and continuing to simmer as the Forge gave way to 'Story Games', and then ebbing a bit with whatever that movement have way to. i don't even especially disagree - most of the good times I've had with D&D have been more despite the printed rulebooks than because of them.
however, it's worth considering what D&D actually is.
"D&D" should not be confused with the books released by Wizards of the Coast or TSR. Nor even the other books in the D&D family in the OSR, Pathfinder, etc. these are an important part of it to be sure, and WotC would certainly like us to think that it all flows out of the books.
however, I think 'buying a D&D book without any expectations, reading it cover, and attempting to run the game as described in the book' represents probably a tiny fraction of D&D players. any more than you could discern the practices of a religion by reading their holy book.
D&D, as actually practiced, is something like that - a set of practices or sorta oral tradition. you learn what D&D is when someone invites you to a D&D group, or you listen to an 'actual play' podcast, or - like me! - you fall into forums and read libraries worth of arguments about which edition is best and game balance and funny game table anecdotes, which create a picture in your head of idealised D&D, and then off you go and try and get your friends on board. you use the books primarily as a reference. (or nowadays you go on 5e.tools instead and don't buy expensive books).
the thing is, this tradition is really good at perpetuating itself and it's as endless and weird to dig into as any long running media franchise. and because a lot of it is an echo of weird 70s shit that comes from, say, an off-brand tokusatsu figurine from Hong Kong, or an author like Jack Vance whose legacy has been kinda swallowed by D&D, there's real character. yeah, there's plenty of tedious wank too, but the density of it means it can serve the 'creative prompt engine' function of an RPG in a way that's very difficult for a smaller, more tightly focused, and tbh less stupid game to be able to do.
it's also got a huge body of folklore to immerse in. the Dread Gazebo. Tucker's Kobolds. Pun-Pun. and it's fractal. a D&D forum, a podcast fanbase, etc. will end up with their own niche injokes. (of course, so will an individual group). there's endless lore to learn about the game's own history if you're that way inclined.
now you might say, most of that doesn't depend on it being D&D, the janky system outlined in the books of WotC. and that's true! there's no reason (beyond copyright) you couldn't confront a Bulette in Burning Wheel, play a Mind Flayer in Fiasco, or even set a game of Apocalypse World in Dark Sun.
this is where one of the quiet strengths of D&D-the-product does come in though. the role of the book is mostly to lend a certain sense of concreteness. it's a rhetorical trick: if you can turn to a page of the Monster Manual and see a mindflayer with a statblock, an artwork and a couple of unique abilities, then mindflayers feel more 'real'. factor in the existence of decades of history, splatbooks expanding on the concept, articles in Dragon, modules, stories about other groups who've encountered a mindflayer, and you feel like you know something. nevermind that most of the mindflayer lore is kind of eh at best! D&D is a machine that rewards your autism, hard.
and in terms of actual game design, there are some things that D&D is very granular about, like what your character can and can't do. D&D certainly is an unbalanced grab bag of not-exactly-integrated systems with no unifying design philosophy... and that's largely to its advantage in terms of making the stuff on your character sheet feel concrete, rather than ephemeral like the freely chosen Aspects in FATE. by making the map more complicated, the supposed territory it describes (the shared fiction) might be made to feel more substantial. it's not the only way to do this, mind you - you can absolutely make something a strongly impactful, constraining part of the shared fiction without numbers and dice. but the numbers and dice provide a scaffolding, a thing to lean on when you draw a blank.
(D&D arrived at this more or less by accident mind you. you could definitely say that something like the Moves of a PbtA game are a more coherent and flexible framework for system and fiction engaging without sacrificing substance. and there's plenty of trad games besides D&D which follow the same paradigm, not least because splatbooks are good business. still, I think there is something gained by what seems at a glance to just be an unholy mess of jank).
for a new game, it can't work in the same way. it's a chicken and egg problem. if nobody's ever played your game before, you can't so easily introduce it by doing. (sure you can run it for friends, but you can't rely on most people being introduced to the game that way). there may be a small or even large community of people for any given game, or maybe fans of types of game, but you have to mostly rely on the book to build up the concept in the player's mind.
one of the most useful tools you have is genre, but that's a double edged sword. there are many games that are just 'PbtA for cyberpunk' or whatever, instantly forgettable. again, that's a tricky bootstrapping problem. somehow, a game book needs to get players enthusiastic about the premise using the familiar, introduce them to the unique quirks that make it interesting, and put them in a mindset where they're ready to extemporise in whatever idiom the game suggests. tall order!
the voice of Apocalypse World - the rulebook - is very casual, quite aggressive. 'to do it, do it', not 'when its condition is met in the fiction, the Move is triggered' as a later PbtA might put it. it swears a lot. the voice of a Jenna Moran game is full of little asides and wordplay. the voice of an Avery Alder game is exhaustingly sanctimonious, which has unfortunately spread to other authors. this aspect, the feeling you get reading it describe the stuff it wants you to do, is way more important in telling you about the game than the short story you skip over at the beginning of the book, or even any particular mechanical procedure.
the voice of modern D&D is... honestly in its current edition, painfully corporate and dull. nothing puts me off playing D&D faster than reading the class introductions! but where it has the most character unique sort of slightly arch 'game prose', kind of like an encyclopedia entry with dice rolls in the middle of a sentence. it's unabashedly nerdy, comfortingly so. this is why long lists of almost identical polearms are actually valuable. games need to have something weird and jank and inexplicable for your brain to hold on to.
however... that mass is also a weakness. because all that concrete stuff that you can lean on to flesh out and inspire your imaginings... is also a lot to digest for a potential new player. (this is a reason why I've found it hard to get into games like Shadowrun and Eclipse Phase, lacking a clear on-ramp, and my ideas clashing unpredictably with established stuff.)
compared to games with a hyper-defined setting, and games that create it all improvisationally in the first session, D&D's modular framework is actually pretty ingenious. if every campaign takes place in its own mini setting designed by the DM, there's huge libraries of stuff that could be there, so you can get that 'I recognised that' knowledge, but there's no need to digest a campaign setting or worry about lore conflicts. you can be ~intertextual~ with other D&D games - "oh yeah, my DM used that!" - without all the commitments of an official setting. (of course, D&D has plenty of those too, and many of them are pretty neat. but it's agnostic about whether you use them.) this also gives you a starting point for making your own setting. "here's a thing that's expected to be there. what's your spin on this?" is a really productive question, if the things are minimally interesting.
so being a DM is kind of a bridge between "run it by the book" and "make your own game". you have a lot of freedom, and you have fallbacks to lean on. that's actually pretty good I think.
the DM role is... you could spin it different ways. on the one hand, it gives one player vastly more work than the others, turning them into a mini game designer + master of ceremonies + multirole actor + narrative author + typically, organiser; the one who's responsible for carrying the whole thing. on the other hand... that's a stage. if you are lucky enough to play with a really good DM, the whole thing really does come alive in a way that a book, no matter how elegant or flavourful, could never convey - because it's responsive to you and you get a rapport going. of course by the same token an unengaged, unenthusiastic DM can't be saved by any procedures or rules you could imagine. in that middle ground... that's where tools like Apocalypse World's MC moves come in to help. for D&D, 'how to DM well' is in my experience communicated almost exclusively through stories and imitation - you could never learn it from the DMG.
viewed as a practice or a ritual, D&D likes to mysticise the DM, like the mad wizard who built the moldering pile etc etc. you have the pageantry of the DM's screen, hidden dice rolls, passed notes, asking for perception checks without explanation. if you play in to it (you should, it's part of the fun), you get to lean on the established image of the Dungeon Master, not just someone in a room telling a story. oh wait, is that actual magic?
incidentally, I never really ran Apocalypse World strictly 'by the book'. I was aware of the list of principles and vaguely remembered the moves, but equally, perhaps more so, I was thinking of the idea of an Apocalypse World MC suggested in discussions online. I was also of course leaning on previous experience playing D&D and other games. it worked well, better the second time when I was older, because it's like 75% about being genuinely enthusiastic and paying attention to people when you get right down to it.
all this is why it's hard to replace D&D with a suite of modern, elegant purpose built systems. most of what happens at a TTRPG table, with any 'system', is not determined by what's written in the book but some fuzzy social dynamic in a given group of people and their shared idea of what the game is supposed to be. you can try and introduce rules and procedures into that dynamic, even create a game like Firebrands where nearly every step comes from a prompt list. (the question of how much the explicit mechanics should touch social interactions and narrative structure is a matter of taste). it can be helpful, but you can also risk stifling something important that comes in improv.
viewing the broad space of indie RPGs as its own tradition, like D&D... 'indie RPGs' has its own content, a shared context of frequent ttrpg players, the type like me who are likely to try a new system every campaign. the more games you play, the more analogies you can draw and the quicker you can pick up the gist of a new game. you'll have cross-game skills in e.g. improv or breaking down systems, and an established habitus in terms of stepping into character or playing a GM-like role that can't be written in a book. if you've only ever played D&D, or no TTRPGs at all, you'll have some of that, but a lot will be unfamiliar and the benefit won't necessarily be obvious.
I do think getting into the broader space of TTRPGs is worthwhile, because... ok this is going to sound pretentious as hell but seriously, it's a ridiculously interesting art form, both the designing and the playing of them. but also that's given me a perspective to look back and say, oh, that's what D&D was all along!
what would kill D&D, WotC edition? hard to imagine. there have been splinters, like the OSR for people who like simple mechanics, high lethality and the flavour associated with older editions, or Pathfinder for people who... idk, who really like 3.5 I guess and just wanted a few balance tweaks, idk, did it diverge more? it's definitely just D&D in a funny hat though. oh and there's Dungeon World but lol, Dungeon World.
D&D-the-product-line has come close to collapsing a couple of times, once when TSR went under, again when 4e divided the 3.5e fanbase hard, but 5e being a 'pretty solid for the most part' game that managed to somehow appeal to multiple ideas of 'what D&D is', along the Actual Play renaissance selling a new generation on the idea of D&D... that saved it. maybe it's about to take another hit with this new OGL killing the secondary industry.
I don't think that most of the D&D groups out there, in it for the idea of D&D, would be playing other TTRPGs if only D&D was not so big. likely they wouldn't be doing any such thing at all, but some other dorky hobby. if WotC-run D&D goes under, I'm not sure what happens! D&D-the-practice would continue no doubt, and maybe it starts looking like the OSR, with numerous variations on a theme that don't carry the stamp of 'officialness', until one or another can become an unofficial standard. maybe it looks like open source software and some kind of nonprofit D&D foundation is created to control the source lol. would be interesting to see.
aaaaanyway. if you want your fave non-D&D TTRPGs to thrive as D&D has, here's what you gotta do. talk about them. tell anecdotes from your games, the stupid memes and injokes, what you really like about the mechanics, tell everyone about the weird fun fucked up bits of the lore. tell a story about what it means to play that game. and sure, talk about how it's different from D&D and why you like it more. that story is the bait that will get people onto that fun new RPG system and give them a handle to get started. what got me into 'Story Games' all those years ago was finding a forum with a whole bunch of people having fascinating nerdy discussions about sides of TTRPGs I'd never been exposed to in D&D.
[of course me being me, I took it way too seriously and made a whole thing in my head about how much better these new, progressive Story Games were better than janky old incoherent Trad Games. for years I wouldn't even consider playing D&D or similar. all I can say is, I'm really glad I got over that attitude. hence this kind of post.]
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garfunclegaming · 10 months
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I don't want to be a complete asshat by whinging about everything to do with modern Bethesda Fallout, but judging from the leaks we've seen from the Fallout TV show I'm not impressed. Vault Tec merchandising, the Brotherhood of Steel and Power Armor is being wanked over, and the setting is confused with the timeline having progressed enough that the NCR is around and the BoS is flying airships but the Wasteland is still in ruins...despite the fact Fallout 2 and New Vegas specifically showing the world progress from Post Apocalypse to Post-Post Apocalypse.
I have the terrible feeling it's gonna be a mix of Bethesda's already crappy writing and total lack of understanding the setting and its themes with some uninterested assigned director going through the motions for another shitty video game adaptation, like how the Halo TV show ended up.
Also the fucking Fallout 4 "Assault Rifle" looks even more stupid as a real life prop.
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fandom-hoarder · 2 years
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rav used the meangirls-y anti bs to raise real concerns, clearly a bad move IF she actually thinks there are real concerns. I was there for the argument that drove z out of rav's server and uhh. rav deleted the logs after lashing out. rav was incredibly condescending and reactionary to z specifically often. I'd be worried to call her level headed or promote her personal beef, from my POV. both sides lack credibility or clarity.
I'm not sure exactly what your premise is in this first sentence, anon. Rav's post didn't use anti language or the meangirl tone of davy's group, and rav's post IS the most level headed post *I have seen* about the situation, because she talked about REAL experiences without slinging around the types of (as far as I've seen, STILL unwarranted) dog whistle accusations davy and them were, and other people I have similar respect for commented about their similar experiences WITHOUT RESORTING TO DAVY'S TACTICS.
Also, just as an aside, it's really funny to me that someone would complain about rav being condescending but not zxro. This is a nonstarter.
I'm not even involved in this. I didn't interact personally enough to know definitively who did what and why. I wasn't in ANY of those servers or DMs! Therefore, I have to rely on my best judgement according to the information I do have, the people I trust to give me good faith information based on past experience, and the small amount of interactions with zxro that left me uncomfy.
I've spoken to people on the sidelines like me, ostensibly on zxro's side if by nothing more than circumstance, and I can't really blame them for still liking zxro or his writing, or wanting to defend him from the very dangerous accusations davy and them were spreading. If they haven't had or seen the negative interactions other people have, they're likely just doing their best to figure out the situation, same as me. Their personal biases towards zxro will inevitably play a part in their perspective, but that is just human nature. I have no beef with anyone in zxro's circle at this point, unless I see similar bullying behavior to what davy's group is doing.
I've spoken to rav briefly about this situation, and read her post about it. I totally understand why it would be difficult to address this issue before; it can be agonizing to parse when something IS a big enough red flag that you should warn people about before something huge happens. Because not everyone's red flags are the same, or at the same levels, and because this fandom is already rife with clashing personalities, and because of thousands of other micro-reasonings we all rely on to get along every fucking day. So, while I think it's unfortunate it didn't come out sooner and in a different way, I also don't blame rav for not making a callout or something.
You're on anon, and I have no fucking clue who you are, so why should I just take your word over rav's?
But I'm not even here to play he said she said. I already said in my original post that I'm not happy with EITHER SIDE, so did you come here to reiterate? I don't want to be involved with either side -- and here I am talking specifically about the people involved in the bullying campaign of zxro, but also zxro! I'm not into any of this drama, and I don't feel a loss at the idea of not seeing zxro OR davy OR angel on the dash, or anyone else that wants to continue dragging this corpse through ANTI BULLSHIT. I am cutting my fandom losses.
I honestly don't know what the best way to address the real issues would've been, but the way davy's closeknit group did it was the WRONG way. Anyone throwing around the terms of pedo and 'cp' immediately discounts anything meaningful they may have to say, because I can't trust that it's in good faith.
Idk how to make you understand that it isn't ok to accuse someone of being a pedophile just because they're dating an adult you think they're too old for!! Idk how to make you understand that calling underage fanfiction 'cp' is harmful both because it's an incorrect, outdated term AND because the premise of the accusation is false. AND because the people that do that KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING. They don't like that content and think it makes you bad, or that the thing they're mad about isn't bad ENOUGH so they have to spice up their bad feelings post with EVIL BUZZWORDS, because that will immediately get their followers attacking the thing they don't like because "*gasp* don't you care about the children?!" Oh, hello U.S. Republicans. When did you join SPN fandom??
Wake up, babe, new fandom factions dropped.
It really doesn't matter if there are truthful accusations about predatory behavior beyond the dog whistles at that point, because the premise of the accusations being spread through tags and replies was just a vengeful dogpile. It just looked like a friend group's petty argument that got nasty, rather than a pattern of behavior to be aware of. And a lot of the people NOT in the know who were concerned about the language being used, and the level of accusation, were told "it's an open secret" -- which it very much WAS NOT, as proven by all the confused DMs I've received. Y'all aren't as famous as you apparently think, jfc. I dont even know what your server is called and it's not the only one for wincest, thank fuck.
I only hope that after this whole thing, people will be both more aware and more mindful of how they're approaching interpersonal problems in fandom. I truly do not want to see new cults form here. The heller cults are enough for one fandom. 🙅‍♀️
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zorilleerrant · 1 year
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Peacemaker: Oh my god, you're John Constantine!
Constantine: Strewth, what now? Did I trap you in a nether plane? Curse your car? Get your whole family eaten by demons?
Peacemaker: What?
Constantine: Oh. Right. Not one of those. What, did I fuck your wife? Con you out of your boat? Steal your family heirlooms?
Peacemaker: You're the frontman for Mucous Membrane!
Constantine: Fuck me, even worse, then.
Peacemaker: I'm such a slut for your stuff. I have your entire Behind the Music ripped to my phone! I watch it all the time!
Constantine: What, while you wank or something?
Peacemaker: What? No. Not - no.
Constantine: Can you scooch thataway just a titch? I kind of have to save the world right now.
Peacemaker: Oh my god, me too! Can I get your autograph or something? Not, like, now, obviously, duh, but eventually? If we don't die horribly first I mean.
Constantine: Yeah, right, have your people call my people.
Peacemaker: It's so cool we're both here for the apocalypse, isn't it? These bitches are about to get fucked - I brought my fuck beam and everything! Shit, we're the coolest, me and John Constantine, saving the world together.
Constantine: Your what, squire?
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olderthannetfic · 2 years
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There's a character in my current prime fandom (58 year old whose body got reverted to 13ish). There's obviously a lot of antis of the 'how very dare you sexualize this character' variety and, given the other main characters are ones that call themselves family/siblings (stolen as infants by an evil billionaire, raised to call each other 'family/sibling' but it has a very 'boarding school/army' vibe rather than y'know, siblings, so a lot of anti-incest antis too (I was super into Sam/Dean back in the day. I give zero fucks about incest in pairings, just saying it's particularly stupid for the antis to latch onto the 'incest' here, especially given there are canon pairings between the 'siblings'). Those are tedious, but expected. But what I find bleak is that while there is some representation (in the statistical 'fic exists' sense, not in Fic Is Representation Which Matters sense) for this character in slash fic, a *lot* of it leans into 'softest twink whos papa forbade him mirrors and this is his first ever sex while his big older (.....technically younger but physically older) partner fucks him' - like, the Really Tropey top/bottom (tm) fic, basically. And this.... isn't supported by his characterization. He's a salty, bossy asshole, and sure he spent a few decades in a burnt out apocalypse, but he smirks at strippers, fantasizes about making out with his sex doll, uh, mannequin, and has MASSIVE sexual tension with his ex boss. (Who could be either similar age, or eldritch being age, jury's out). Not saying he has to top, but c'mon, bottoming doesn't automatically mean 'papa hast forbade me out of doors and i've never seen a mirror before'. (I know fandom's gonna fandom, and chase your bliss and all, not faulting people for rule of hot (not my cuppa whisky or characterization doesn't mean other people don't find it hot), but...it goes to that whole 'I don't wanna read about generic twink with a character's name pasted on, I wanna read about *this* character getting it on.)
(asking anonymously for once, to give some variety to your current group of nonnies)
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I know of this fandom only from the incest wank that lands in my inbox, but that does sound annoying.
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theskoomacat · 1 year
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this was..... the entire season? he REALLY wants to continue THIS? a cannon is too soft of a punishment
like okay i will write down what i think here so i stop cluttering your dash with this nonsense.
edit: i have listened and i have learned. i refuse to defend the outright bad pieces of writing, but i am overall more chill about the situation
in the beginning it was... eh. you could see there was little to no actual plot, so they interspersed with. very long flashbacks. which is not bad per se but they provided little to no support for the main plot. most of the things we were shown were what we'd already known about the guys. i think in this regard the graverobbing flashback was the most novel, but i don't think Azi getting a lesson on the lesser of two evils had any impact on the plot later. coming back to the main plot, they presented it as some kind of mystery, but in actuality there was no mystery solving, it was just Azi bumbling around and then Crowley getting all the info directly in heaven. the places Azi went to actually held No clues and were just. places that G&B have visited together, that's it. kinda disappointing
speaking of G&B. excuse me..... what the actual fuck???? this was extremely out of the blue and unpleasant, and if they aimed to parallel A/C, it didn't work. and so Now they don't want an apocalypse?? what was the entire s1 about then? also the amount of times i went "these stuck-up angels would never do that" over the course of s2 is staggering, I feel like they've forgotten that not all of them are Azi. anyway...
speaking of parallels to A/C - Maggie and Nina! it was stupidly obvious that they were a device to hurry on A/C, and the characters themselves were 2.5-dimensional enough to not amount to much more than that. they just weren't written well imo. and it's funny that the story started off with the guys wanting to bring them together to cover their tracks (because THE POWER OF LOVE makes their miracles too strong~~), but like 2/3 of the season in it became irrelevant because everyone knew they were hiding Gabriel anyway! so they were just... there. playing the role of matchmakers🙄
speaking of A/C!!! i found it extremely funny that while s1 had a lot of charged romantically-tinted moments, they were mostly absent in 2 - their dynamic has evolved into that of an old married couple. and i realized that i was absolutely fine with it - in the absense of n*il constantly mocking them it stopped being a big problem to me. i mean, i don't have any problems with the kiss itself, it was cute and only a bit spoiled by the surrounding bad writing. it's just that its entire concept was marred by the wank and people living in the acorn house in n*il's ass.
i'm sorry, can we talk about how over the entire season Azi has had his moments of doubt in heaven, then he learned that freaking GABRIEL quit heaven to avoid carrying on with the apocalypse - and then Azi decided that waltzing back in there was an idea good enough to risk losing Crowley? that's just bullshit🤷‍♀️
um. i am probably missing something, but whatever. overall to me this season's vibe felt like a slightly weird D*ctor Wh* special. Michael and David absolutrly carried everything. it did have its funny moments, but overall i think it has been a disservice to the original work. if i am going to be honest, it seemed like it was made not to expand on it, but to showcase how big of an ally to everyone n*il is. well, I am NOT his ally and so i am beating him with hammers
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mneiai · 1 year
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It's weird the amount of asoiaf/got SI or some-Stark wank fics that don't include Jon, not necessarily because of his big deal potential parentage, but because, like...the Others??? The whole zombie apocalypse thing??? If you've already got one or more Starks around, why would you not use them as an excuse to contact a NW brother and potentially have an excuse to "find out" about "trouble" early??? Like "oh, your half brother is at the Wall, Sansa? I've always been fascinated by the Wall, mayhaps I could send him a raven with a few questions?" "Oh dear it seems the Night's Watch is having some difficulties, I might send some men up, not to take vows, but just to help and evaluate."
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ashtraythief · 5 months
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You said you haven’t been in any fandoms before, what made you pick this one and stick with it for as long as you have? I can answer for myself and say I watched Supernatural during a really important and influential time of my life and it just really impacted me. I’ll watch other shows and enjoy them, but it’ll never mean as much to me as this show and fandom does. I will forever be thinking about Sam and Dean and the insane love they had for each other. What about you? What has made you stay this long? Is it the friends, the fanfic, Sam & Dean?
That sounds very familiar 😅
Sam and Dean were definitely the main draw. They just sucked me in and wouldn't let me go. I basically bought the DVDs immediately and made all of my friends watch it with me.
And yeah, I started watching the show in a time of my life where I had a lot going on and I don't know if it was the show itself, but fandom and the creative outlet definitely helped me work through some things.
more ramblings under the cut
There are other shows that I really love and that, at this point I might even rewatch more often (supernatural is rarely a fun, lighthearted, comfort rewatch. There are a couple of eps with uncomplicated joy like Monster Movie or Hell House, but a lot of the time there's too much pain in there fora light rewatch 😅).
I started reading other fandom's fanfic along the way whenever I discovered the gift of fanfic extended to other shows, but I was really hesitant about writing. I think I mentioned before how much harder it is for me to write existing characters, get their voice right etc. But supernatural had a huge, probably the biggest, rpf fandom connected to a TV show. So I got all the wonderful fanfic tropes without the constraints of an existing world/canon/characters. And like, lots of fandoms have thriving AU fics. SPN I think is special in that most fics are set in the canon universe. So all the AU stuff basically happens in rpf. And that's what I enjoy writing and that's why I stuck with it for so long. Plus the community I found is absolutely lovely and I really enjoy brainstorming fics with friends, running and participating in challenges together. I've been reading in many other fandoms, but it takes a lot for me to want to write for them, both in interest and in confidence. And then I need even more confidence to actually finish and post it, so… it's just not a common occurrence. Recently I've been dipping my toe into the rwrb fandom, both because I really love these two characters and what you can do with them and because the spn fandom (esp the rpf side) is shrinking and being plagued by conflict and wank which is getting harder to avoid and it's just nice to be in a new enthusiastic fandom instead of a few apocalypse survivors sitting around a campfire trading war stories. Now don't get me wrong, I'll probably be sitting at the fire until it goes out, but I'll have to spend some time in the shiny new spaces as well.
I'll always love spn, and I still enjoy rewatching it, and I'm hopeful that I'll keep the friends I've been lucky enough to find long after all of this is only glowing ashes in a half-forgotten firepit. But the spn fandom is a persistent hunch, so I think we'll be here for some time longer.
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missyourflight · 11 months
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DEAR YULETIDE WRITER
I'm excited to read whatever you want to write (treats welcome)! Happy with any rating, bit more detail about stuff I like if you're stuck:
Things I like in general: bedsharing; the sentiment “I see you”/”I know who you are”; circularity; ambiguity; queerness; adventure stories; fake dating! AND/OR marriage of convenience!; the apocalypse and what comes after; alternate universes; cross-dressing; people putting make-up on each other; authentically awkward speech patterns; road trips; massages; tattoos; clones and/or robots with feelings; a palpable sense of longing; terrible plans; terrible people; clever/weird things with structure; first times; last times; flashbacks.
Stuff I would prefer not to see: humiliation, choking.
Fandom-specific notes under the cut. Thank you!
The History Boys (Stuart Dakin, Donald Scripps)
Anyone writing it down/anyone on their knees. Doesn't have to be romantic (I would love it to be romantic) but more of these two please, whether it's at school or after. Please no Posner as a romantic interest for either Scripps or Dakin, thanks. Irwin stuff fine/encouraged.
These two actually excellent candidates to be stuck on a road trip together imo. Stuff I like in canon includes: Scripps' faith, Scripps' forearms, Scripps not wanking, any time Dakin gets embarrassed, poetry, Sheffield, the best moments in reading, cold stone.
The Philadelphia Story (Tracy Lord, Macaulay Connor, CK Dexter Haven)
Banging my clipboard spilling my drink chanting THREESOME THREESOME etc. Dressing gowns! Sailing! Pedestals! Big scenes at society affairs! If you simply have to pick a side of the triangle I'd prefer Tracy/Mike, please.
Pretty self-explanatory, I'd just like to hang out with these three a bit more. Stuff I like in canon includes: moments of high emotion near bodies of water inc. swimming pools, drunken honesty, drunken nonsense, Tracy's wardrobe, Dinah, yar-ness as a concept, being worshipped vs being loved, Mike as a writer.
The Righteous Gemstones (Judy, BJ, Kelvin, Keefe)
Would love either Judy/BJ or Kelvin/Keefe here - although feel free to spend the whole fic on another Gemstones significant others hangout feat. Amber and Tiff etc. If the spirit moves you re: Judy/BJ I would welcome absolute filth; it's what they would want.
Stuff I like in canon includes: Judy's tragic/horrifying romantic backstory, BJ's fits, Judy and BJ being absolute sex freaks about each other, Keefe being in charge of looking after Kelvin's body, Satanic sex club stuff, levels of derangement generally through the roof.
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laststandx3 · 1 year
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Spoiler for twd daryl dixon ep 3 I'm once again buffled by the amarican wank that is daryl dixon. It's not possible that a whole country speaks english for him but he can't manage ONE mercì. I fuckin hate him. Learn the fucking language. And he speaks too american for people to understand him.
Then everyone acting like that kid is jesus back on earth. For fuck sake. He's just got some antibiotic blood.
You want me to believe that's the same little girl from last episode? It's been 12 fucking years in the story timeline: that child is dust. You can't ignore that much physics
Even for post-apocalypse standards the demimonde is low tier for a nightclub. Great music. But are they supposed to have electricity? There's a girl with pink/purple hair. How do they still have all those stuff 12+ years after the apocalypse. Im not saying everyone should be sad and gloomy and never dress up ever, but it seemed to me that even eating was a hard task. Where do all those party people live? Don't they have to grow their food? Having a nightclub in a post-apocalypse setting isn't wrong per se. but the society around it needs to match up to that level of surplus. we're shown 3 guys and a grill who grow all the food for the community that's hosting dixon. nothing else, except the zombies. now to have at least alchol (admitting that for electricity they have a generator and if you want to eat you eat home bc the demidome isn't a restaurant) there should be people growing fruits or potatoes or anything really bc you can be a wonderful singer but if there's no food not only people won't have time to listen but you'll be to hungry to sing. anyway i feel like i'm digressing so back on the story:
we're 34 minutes in (48 total) of french people bending over backwards to accomodate daryl dixon's need. (like you know french people are just like that. that if you ask any european we do love to help americans, it's like second nature here, we respect them so much we don't want them to go back to their country asap and never come back. I think i understand why all those people are trying to give dixon a boat now. i hope they manage to get rid of him fast.) what was I saying? yes 34 minutes in AdNag shows up in the classiest outfit i've ever seen him in. everyone say thank you to tdw costume dept who saw him in that blue acrylic adidas zipper and said we can aim a little higher with this one. So it's been 12 years and Quinn is still crushing hard on Izzy, simp. and in the same sentence we find out he saved her after a suicide attempt we also discover that (spoiler), 1) he sort of tried to kill sister, and 2) HE FUCKED THE SISTER!! he's little jesus' dad!! smelling god-complex already, but that would be putting to much faith in the writers So for the privilege of getting rid of dixon, izzy would introduce laurent to his dad (who if you forgot, has tried to kill her sister not once but twice, although leaving her to die is a technicality, but i think the point was he REALLY wanted to not have sister around) dixon calls the "deal" off, ruining the lives of french people once more bc the evil militia guys are back, and this time instead of nuns they kill those 5 poor souls who made the mistake of inviting dixon in and not kicking him out right away. And you'd think that since dixon and izzy just had a fight and he's packing to leave alone in the night he'll take this opportunity to leave those people alone and stop endangering them. but no, he tells them to meet him later in a different place. Genuinely tho, does he understand 20+ people (mostly nuns) died bc the evil guys are after him? Is he asking team-jesus to follow him bc he cares or does he wants human shields? I'm really confused bc if i knew bad guys were after me SPECIFICALLY i wouldn't invite people i care about with me.
let's finish on a bright note: compared to the other 2 episode this one was well written. Izzy's actress is good, she's just given a very inconsistent character that is badass until the writers need her to be a sad womanTM. i don't think the writers put effort and depth in the character but surely she's doing what she can since she just got the vibes of the character instead of a backstory. I said bright note: great music. great plot twist (i mean maybe it happens a lot in other genres but I'm not used to secret father subplots). AdNag.
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the-firebird69 · 1 year
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Hera and I are similar and she can mutate like this back then but didn't with just a little spice and juice and bug juice but that's neither here nor there this is not her this is Ray and probably possessed and you guys are missing the point you're right after our children they don't really point out where they are but it keeps them safe and it's a theory that I've used for myself for my whole life
Zues
Doesn't want me to do it either but it's us and we won a battle against Tommy effort also got Intel and find out he's huge and now he's not and everybody's fighting over our kids you don't know there are kids because you're wankings really you're very stupid they're under your cities some people say up to a thousand or 2,000 miles long or tall really and there might be bigger but really at 2000 miles you're 35,000 miles chips would be nothing and Thomas Magnum is already trying to connect to them he's found several about 800 in many large cities he wants to helm and it's a piece of hardware Mac Daddy too has about 1200 targeted and they're fighting over the same ones plus he's got 400 more. And we do have small ones around and lots of them and I've been making them with the material that he's given out and we take it from right down the street with Giants and other and if you go down there you're dead
Hera
Olympus will you give permission for this we released and we are going to vacuum up back him up and we also have our own Giants and they're made with our DNA and he said finally he's the one who suggested it and they're under your cities as well and have the heads shaped as eternals and infinites and several others like apocalypse and they're gigantic humanoids kju and that's what we call them it's just like Galactus and Galactica and their children
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