#are also being killed in Gaza

[starmansdaydreams]

Zionism and Arab History

Zionism existed before the holocaust but gained a larger movement afterward due to the genocide of Jewish people. Its solution was the apartheid nation state that is Israel that pushed out indigenous Palestinians for the sake of making right by the Jews. The problem is that the European countries that persecuted the Jewish people didn’t have to pay the reparations, they instead colonised a pre-existing Arab state as payment. Zionism is fundamentally fucked up and the genocide of Israel is not surprising given its long connection with anti Arab sentiments.

This interview of Ussama Makdisi is much more eloquent in explaining the details of this concept as he is an Arab historian and has a lot of expertise on the subject. Hopefully this helps inform someone about the separation between Zionism and Judaism and why being anti-Israel isn’t anti-Jew but pro-indigenous people and pro Arabic nations.

[penwrythe]

What's stopping the possibility of a ceasefire is pretty simple. Hamas is holding 239 Israeli civilians hostage including children and the elderly. What's happening in Palestine is a travesty and horrendous. But Israel can't initiate a ceasefire from the position they're in, so we need to be agitating for Hamas to release the hostages and call for a ceasefire instead.

NO GENOCIDE IS JUSTIFIABLE

HOW DOES THE KILLING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE ON THIS EXTREME LEVEL FORCE HAMAS TO RETURN HOSTAGES??

ISRAEL'S BOMBARDMENT AND INDISCRIMINATE SHOOTING IN GAZA THREATEN EVERYONE THERE INCLUDING DOCTORS JOURNALISTS CHILDREN ENTIRE FAMILIES AND THE HOSTAGES

EVERYONE IS TARGETED

YOU HAVE HOSPITALS BOMBED HOW ANY OF THIS IS JUSTIFIED

@sarroora @fairuzfan @palipunk @wearenotjustnumbers2

You know more about this than I do.

[beep-beepster]

I feel like there is a strong correlation to Frank Hubert’s initial subtext with Dune (its islamic religious themes, a premise setting an empire against local populaces, the attention towards ecological developments in desert environments with a bias towards temperate zones from outsiders wanting to “enrich” the land), and all of the recent developments in Gaza and its history, both with the original influences to Hubert’s novel and the timing of a blockbuster adaptation happening while international focus grows towards Palestine, that is going unmentioned outside of the usual jokes and memes

[thedreadvampy]

legitimately insane how to some people, "we should wipe out this ethnic group that we've violently constrained to a ghetto because they're just genetically more violent and dangerous" is a reasonable and justifiable statement but it's Nazi Rhetoric to say something like, "it's bad that Israeli civilians are being killed but acknowledging that as tragic includes acknowledging that the almost daily state-sanctioned murder of civilians by the Israeli government is also tragic and unacceptable"

btw guys speaking of Nazi shit - can we check in, alongside what's been done to Palestinians in the last 75 years, what's the Israeli government's take on the Azerbaijani government's newest round of ethnic cleansing of Armenians? oh are the Israeli government's actions maybe not determined by Jewish identity, but by a commitment to colonial supremacy which puts them on the same page as other violently genocidal states like Azerbaijan, the US, and the UK? god can you Even Imagine?

(framing speaking against Israeli war crimes as inherently antisemitic requires understanding the Israeli state as representing all Jewish people, when it doesn't even represent all Israelis.

framing Israeli war crimes as synonymous with Jewish identity is pretty fucked up if we're being honest. I don't think that controlling water and power and movement for a captive population and shooting children dead for throwing stones is an inherent value of Judaism, any more than I think the torture carried out at Guantanamo Bay is an inherent value of Christianity - in both cases they're atrocities carried out by a far right genocidal government using religious identity as a shield.

Calling statements like "Israel is committing genocide against the people it's displaced" inherently antisemitic is doing more to further the idea that all Jewish people are associated with Israel than saying "the Israeli government is doing war crimes," which is a statement of fact about a country that exists and does war crimes. Is criticism of Israel as a nation often used as cover for antisemitism? Absolutely. Does that mean the Israeli government isn't doing literal war crimes repeatedly, on record, while talking publicly about scrubbing an ethnic group off the map? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh well in the last 48 hours they've definitely cut off water and power to almost 600,000 civilians and allegedly used white phosphorus against civilians so in an extremely factual and unambiguous way yeah man those are Literal War Crimes whoever does them.)

[yellowduckieumbrella]

people saying "the new york times wrote about it, so it must be true that USAG is oppressed!" y'all already forgot how nyt made that graphic at the last olympics where china's medals were smaller than the american medals so it looked like usa had won more gold at that point?? 💀 nyt is absolutely not usa propaganda free

[guiltyidealist]

"but they're homophobicccc" like I care.

I'll accept the gross generalization for the moment to make my point. I don't care who it is, what they believe, what they believe should happen to me, what they do, none of it-- genocide is wrong.

Genocide is wrong if the victimized are people of color. Genocide is wrong if the victimized are white.

Genocide is wrong if the victimized are Jewish or Muslim or Hindu or whatever. Genocide is wrong if the victimized are Catholic Christians or Protestants or whatever.

Genocide is wrong if the victimized are disabled people. Genocide is wrong if the victimized are abled people. Genocide is wrong if the victimized are ableists.

Genocide is wrong if the victimized are queer. Genocide is wrong if the victimized are cisgender, heterosexual, allosexual, heteromantic, alloromantic, monogamous, perisex queerphobes.

Genocide is wrong if the victimized are poor and low-income people. Genocide is wrong if the victimized are wealthy, even the 10%, even the 1%.

Genocide is wrong if the victimized are convicts and felons and criminals. Genocide is wrong if the victimized are cops.

Genocide is wrong if the victimized are an indigenous group of people living in their indigenous home. Genocide is wrong if the victimized are foreign colonizers invading the lands of others.

Genocide is wrong if the victimized ARE committing genocide.

The acceptability of genocide is not conditional.

GENOCIDE IS WRONG.

[panicbones]

there is a way to discuss the horrors of gaza without posting literal videos of children being shot. on camera. have some fucking tact and sense to at least tag it

[an-absolute-nightmare]

me: india is not secular anymore it's turning into a hindu nationalist country :(

my so called liberal and open minded parents: india is not secular anymore it's turning into a hindu nationalist country :D:D:D:D:D

[queensabriel]

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[chicago-geniza]

Not JC doing fine-print sophistry genocide denial, as I live and breathe

[hussyknee]

Good afternoon. Today's real feel temperature is 38°C (100.4F). We do not have air conditioning. I have decided to die.

[beskad]

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[halalchampagnesocialist]

We actually do not know how many have been killed in Gaza. The numbers of those killed per day are seemingly less everyday compared to the start of the war, but we also hear of new daily massacres. We’re also hearing of Palestinians dying of starvation everyday, a number which is not included in the death toll. There’s not enough search and rescue teams to pull people from under the rubble, or that it’s too dangerous to do so. The Ministry of Health is unable to function properly, doctors and nurses are being killed off as hospitals are routinely bombed over and over, which means the current death toll is not being updated frequently and is most likely inaccurate. The carnage that Israel has left and continues to leave will only further result in the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, even long after this ‘war’ is over. Does that not scare you? Does that not anger you?

[rozcdust]

also, a friendly reminder, the world we live in now consists of an active genocide.

of warcrimes being posted on twitter by the official account of israeli government.

of people looking at children, women and men being bombed, killed, starved and butchered and saying it is okay because of a single terrorist group, THAT ISRAEL CREATED.

of westerners saying to look away from the slaughter happening in gaza because your mental health is more important than thousands of lives.

of israeli politicians straight up using propaganda from nazi handbooks to dehumanise palestinians, calling them less than human, less than the rest of us, animals.

and what one palestinian man posted on his social media hit me more than anything: “if we actually were animals, people would care.”

[momentomori24]

I'm baaaack. And alive. Yay. Literally 30 minutes or so into church service with the theme "Purity is Power" and they already admitted to child abuse (then sgain it's an open secret so i'm not surprised), lumped sex work and active sexuality with "sexual impurity" and spread very likely soft core Israel propaganda help 💀💀

[akajustmerry]

I think one element of Israeli propaganda that a lot people are unintentionally aligning themselves with is the idea of Gaza as the main target of Israeli violence. During the "truce" even, so many people talking about how it was a "pause" even though people in the West Bank, Damascus, and Lebanon were still being killed by Israeli forces because the "truce" was only negotiated for Gaza (where it was also not adhered to). But as a Lebanese person with family in Lebanon and Palestinian loved ones, I need people to remember that Gaza is not a state. Gaza isn't a country. Israel won't destroy Gaza and call it a day as if Gaza is their main goal because it's not. It's "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free" because the free Palestine movement is about ending Israeli occupation of all Palestine and surrounding countries. It's not a reform movement about getting Israel to behave. It's an anti-colonial movement that aims to give ALL of Palestine back to Palestinians. Of course, the extreme violence Israel is enacting on Palestinians in Gaza is horrific. it's also obvious Israel is relying on the horror it's caused in Gaza to distract people from holding them to account for their ongoing violence in the rest of Palestine, as well as Lebanon, Syria and the Congo. Israel divided Palestine up so the world would forget it, don't be party to that. Talk about Gaza, the West Bank, Jenin, Hebron because it's all Palestine and all of it must be free. End the occupation. End the apartheid state of Israel.