Look, you're allowed to enjoy Eichi as a character. You're allowed to sympathize with him, or say he thought he was doing the right thing. That's okay and anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit!
What's not okay is insinuating (or outright stating) that looking at Eichi's actions during the war and being like "well I sure didn't like that, so I don't think I particularly like this character" is childish. Your Eichi posts are starting to read more like "I'm not like ~other~ girls cos I like Villains(tm) xD lol so quirky"
Besides, who cares about intentions? What matters in the end is what you do, not why you did it.
And that's all valid! When looking at real people. I literally opened with the definition of a bad character being the opposite of an interesting character. I'm not saying disliking the character is bad. Not once did I say disliking his actions makes you childish (did you, perchance, notice I am literally a ValkyrieP?). I meant that saying he's bad as a character (not a person. These characters are not people, they are tools for the narrative and judging them as characters means judging them by how well they carry the narrative) because of his actions is childish because without Eichi and the War, there is no Enstars. I said you can't approach non-fables as fables and decide that a character who does bad things is a one-dimensional villain bc that's how media aimed at children works, and not most other media. A villain can do good things and a hero can do bad things. I called him a machiavelist character aka an "ends justify the means" character. Do you think that's positive? Did you think i was defending his actions? Or was my post the first time you've met with that term? He's a good character because his motivations not only make sense, but paired with the results of his shitty actions - are tragic. He's not a good character because his "intentions are good" nor did I say that. When analysing a character, you don't look at only one aspect of them in a vacuum.
Don't be condescending in my askbox if you can't even understand what I very clearly defined in the posts.
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How to Craft a Compelling Morally Grey Character: A Step-by-Step Guide
Step 1: Define the Character’s Core Traits
Identify Strengths and Virtues: List positive traits that make the character likable or admirable. These could include bravery, intelligence, loyalty, or compassion.
Identify Flaws and Vices: List negative traits that add complexity and realism. These could include arrogance, selfishness, impatience, or a propensity for violence.
Step 2: Establish Motivations and Backstory
Create a Detailed Backstory: Develop a background that explains why the character has their particular mix of virtues and flaws. Consider their upbringing, significant life events, and personal experiences.
Determine Core Motivations: Identify what drives the character. Is it revenge, love, ambition, survival, or something else? Motivations should be realistic and relatable.
Step 3: Develop Moral Ambiguity
Set Up Moral Dilemmas: Place your character in situations where they must make difficult choices with no clear right or wrong answer. These dilemmas should challenge their morals and reveal their complexity.
Showcase Contradictions: Allow the character to make decisions that might seem contradictory. For example, they might commit a crime to protect someone they love, revealing both a moral and an immoral side.
Step 4: Create Dynamic Relationships
Construct Meaningful Relationships: Develop relationships with other characters that highlight different aspects of your morally grey character. These relationships can help explore their multifaceted personality.
Use Relationships to Drive Conflict: Relationships can be a source of moral conflict and development. Conflicts with friends, family, or rivals can push your character to reveal their grey areas.
Step 5: Show Consequences and Growth
Illustrate the Impact of Actions: Show the real-world consequences of the character’s morally ambiguous decisions. This adds realism and stakes to the story.
Allow for Character Growth: Let your character evolve. They might become more virtuous or more corrupt over time. This evolution keeps the character dynamic and interesting.
Step 6: Balance Sympathetic and Unsympathetic Traits
Make Them Relatable: Ensure the character has traits or experiences that the audience can relate to or sympathize with, even if they do questionable things.
Maintain Complexity: Avoid making the character too sympathetic or too unsympathetic. The balance between good and bad traits should make the audience feel conflicted about the character.
Step 7: Use Subtlety and Nuance
Avoid Clear Labels: Do not overtly label the character as good or evil. Allow their actions and motivations to speak for themselves.
Employ Subtlety: Use nuanced behavior and dialogue to reveal the character’s moral complexity. Avoid heavy-handed exposition.
Step 8: Test and Refine
Seek Feedback: Share your character with others and seek feedback on their complexity and believability. Adjust based on constructive criticism.
Refine Motivations and Actions: Continuously refine the character’s motivations and actions to ensure they remain compelling and consistent throughout the story.
Example: Crafting a Morally Grey Character
Core Traits:
Strengths: Intelligent, determined, loyal.
Flaws: Arrogant, manipulative, vengeful.
Backstory:
Grew up in a tough neighborhood, witnessing crime and corruption.
Lost a loved one to a gang, fueling a desire for revenge.
Motivations:
Driven by a need to protect their remaining family and seek revenge.
Moral Dilemmas:
Joins a criminal organization to infiltrate it and bring it down from within.
Struggles with the ethical implications of committing crimes for a greater good.
Relationships:
Has a strained relationship with a sibling who disapproves of their methods.
Forms a complicated friendship with a morally upright police officer.
Consequences and Growth:
Faces the legal and emotional consequences of their actions.
Gradually questions their own morality and seeks redemption.
Balance:
Helps the community but uses unethical means.
Shows moments of kindness and ruthlessness.
Subtlety:
Reveals their inner conflict through small actions and dialogue.
Avoids overt explanations of their morality, letting the audience interpret.
By following these steps, you can create a compelling morally grey character that adds depth and intrigue to your story.
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Lately, I can't help but think that Mingi and San are the epitome of the Doberman type of boyfriends.
And here are the unholy thoughts of the day: Your dorm closes for the summer, and you are literally left in the middle of the street with endless stacks of romance novels and fluffy blankets. Luckily, Yunho and Yeosang's friends have kindly agreed to take you in until the academic term starts. What neither Yunho nor Yeosang have warned you about is that your new roommates will be two luxurious Dobermans guys. They look like they've stepped straight out of the pages of those twisted romance novels you've been so obsessed with.
Utterly shameless, vulgar, and sexy as hell, they are horrible perverts who love to make you blush and squirm with their words and actions. They frighten you, but what frightens you even more are the fantasies you have about them. But who can blame you when you're literally surrounded by walking porn 24/7 and they have a soft spot for pretty girls with cute pigtails that they can wrap around their wrists while they fuck them into oblivion?
You trusted Yunho and Yeosang; you were friends since childhood, and of course both boys wanted the best for you, so how the hell did you end up in the same apartment with San and Mingi, literally squeezed between their big, hot bodies with no escape plan?
You didn't expect your university to sneakily out all the students out into the street this year and close the halls for the summer. But thanks to your friends, you managed to avoid sleeping under the bridge, although now you think that living under the bridge would not be as bad as living with Mingi and San.
When Yunho told you that one of his model friends was willing to let you stay in his apartment for the summer, you were incredibly happy, and how lucky that one of Yeosang's best friends was also staying there. But for some reason, neither of them bothered to warn you that San and Mingi were the typical dark Doberman boys from twisted romance novels, with cheeky, shameless behaviour and domineering manners.
Not that they were that bad; no, both boys were pretty nice, if you don't count the times they deliberately embarrassed you or made you squirm from their not-so-innocent touches.
The very first night you met them, you learnt a few things: one, neither of them were wearing underwear, which you felt very clearly when Mingi pressed his hips against your ass while helping you put your things on the top shelf of the cupboard; two, they had absolutely no idea what decency and modesty meant, asking you if you were a virgin and what your favourite sex position was; and three, San was tactile, very tactile. So tactile that within ten minutes of meeting you, he was all over you, playing with your hair, running his fingers up your thigh much higher than was appropriate, and he even spanked your ass, which shocked you.
But with each passing day, they seemed to get bolder and more relaxed in your presence as the level of depravity only increased. Shared breakfasts were pure torture, as neither of them bothered to get dressed after a shower, and they walked around the house with only tiny towels hanging so dangerously low on their hips that you could practically see their dicks.
The vulgar comments and actions made you uneasy, and the sounds—God, they were immoral enough to watch porn at full volume in the middle of the common room. You also caught them masturbating a few times, and San even had the nerve to invite you to join in, while Mingi invited you to sit and enjoy the show.
This would have continued if the boys hadn't persuaded you to join them for a drink one night. A relatively innocent night ended with San and Mingi folding you in half, ripping off your panties in a rough manner, and exposing your plump, wet pussy to their hungry gazes. And to be honest, you didn't put up much of a fight. The sexual tension between you had reached a breaking point, and it was bound to happen sooner or later.
Oh, and you learnt a few more things about them that night: One, cock piercings are a great way to get extra stimulation of your cunt; two, Minig does eat pussy like a champ, and he has quite a long tongue; three, Sun really knows how to fuck you until you squirt; and four, they were absolutely right when they said spit roasting is a great way to unwind.
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