#bg3 petras

[clowncapriccio]

one day i'll draw all of the 7 vampire spawn. nobody can stop me

[azotho]

Maybe an oath for himself🩸

Man… the light from the Blood of Lathander✨ was too strong and that was why I missed the Astarion event with the vamp spawn. Had to load an old save to see it and I thought it was some kind of bug when they vanished🥺💦

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[fangsandfeels]

Got hit with more thoughts about spawns and Cazador...

...and naturally, I'm posting it here because I'm no longer a functional human being.

I remember the lingering question that Astarion seemingly being only one of the spawns using seduction to lure victims in. At least, there is no menition of other’s doing so, except for Petras. So, why is that? Why Astarion was the only one?

In my opinion, it stems from Cazador’s very particular choice of victims. In all these years, he acquired only seven spawns (except for the thousands of Turned nobody knew about), and almost all of them used to be accomplished or talented people:

- Violet, a beloved and talented songbird from Reithwin;

- Dalyria, a respected doctor working in the Parliament;

- Leon, a sorcerer (a spell modifiaction he came up with shows how good he is at his magic);

- Astarion, a magistrate with a promising future, centuries of life ahead of him, and a beauty worthy of a thousand paintings.

Following this tendency, we can assume that Yousen, Aurelia, and Petras also were similarly talented or good at something enough to attract Cazador’s attention and make him envious.

The bastard thinks very highly of himself. He calls himself the most intelligent and beautiful creature out there, and spends hours writing letters to other vampire lords, trying to convince them of his grandeur. He attempts to inflate his ego, making it finally big enough to overcompensate for his miserable inferiority complex, in any way he can: so, whenever he spies someone with a talent or potential, someone who might be better than him at anything, he snuffs them away, adds to his collection, and then breaks them over and over, making them believe that they’re nothing. He is the father who gives them purpose; they are his spawn who owe him everything; and everything they have belongs to him.

And maybe, aside from tortures, and humiliation, and gaslighting, and forcing “siblings” to hurt each other, he came up with one more way to break them - when he forces them to hunt, he forces them to use everything that made them special, loved, respected, and admired for the most gruesome things.

- Violet, previously a talented singer whose voice was fondly remembered up to Reithwin’s fall, using her voice to catch attention; using her image and charm to lure people into the palace to their death.

- Dalyria, picking her victims around apothecaries and temples that responded to the people's suffering by closing doors in their faces, seeking out refugees and ailing citizens low on coin, offering to help them, kindly inviting them to “her place” (if we take Karlach’s family as an example, finding a healer who would agree to help a less-than-wealthy family is quite a problem at the city).

- Leon, using his talents and magic to nab people from the street, to drag them to Cazador without a fight while knowing that he will never be able to use the same power against the bastard himself.

- Astarion, a previously sophisticated, proud, and beautiful elf, stripped of his dignity and pride, using his body to either seduce poor young and inexperienced souls (fulfilling their image of an ethereal and caring lover) or let himself be pawed at by drunkards and brothel-goers.

I don’t think any of Cazador’s choices were accidental. I don't think he had to roam the streets at night, looking for potential candidates; that he ever Turned any of them by chance.  

They all caught his eye at some point, became an object of his obsession, and then fell victim to a scenario where they were confronted by a promise of salvation - and each time, it made Cazador giddy with excitement and a sense of self-importance. He took them away from the world because he could. He will twist and shape them to his whim because he can. And then, he will take everything from them, reducing them to miserable wretches because this is who they should be, compared to him.

They will belong under his heel, scared, helpless, and obedient, worshipping him and fearing him. Forever.

[rolyleritae]

[the-phantom-otaku]

This is something I've thought about off and on for a while now.

How do y'all think Astarion's spawn siblings would react upon finding out he actually has a real, genuine lover? I know we have very little to go off of, so answers are definitely going to vary, but I wanna hear 'em regardless.

Idk why but I feel like half would go, "Wait, he actually pulled a partner?? How?" bc they just know him as that smart-mouthed asshole they share a room with. They're just surprised that the guy they know to be a real jerk somehow got someone even when not hiding his true colors.

And the other half who know him better would be like, "Oh, that's great! I'm glad Astarion found someone."

Edit: Adding some more specifics.

I think Petras and Yousen would be in the 'WTF" camp. Petras bc it's clear he and Astarion don't get along and even Astarion says he could've been better to Petras. I imagine he all but screamed, "You managed to pull that?!" while pointing at Tav. Yousen bc he's a dwarf and we know how Astarion treats Dwarves. Edit Edit: I mixed up gnomes and dwarves. I still think he treated Yousen like shit bc he still reminded him of a gnome.

Dalyria and Aurelia I feel like would be happy for him. Dal bc she does seem to care for Astarion to some extent (and likely for her other spawn siblings, too). Aurelia I have little justification for other than I like to think of her as the oldest, so seeing him find someone even after all the pain and torture gives her hope for herself. She's also glad to see him happy bc she's likely witnesses some of his worst moments (while experiencing them herself, too).

Violet and Leon are the oddballs I'm unsure of. Violet gives me mischievous younger sibling vibes, tho, so perhaps she's happy but absolutely not above exaggerating her surprise to get under his skin. Leon I feel hasn't spent a lot of time with him or the other spawn, so maybe he's just kinda like "cool idc". It sounds like he only spent maybe a year in the spawn bunks before going back to the favored room. Or perhaps him only getting a brief taste led to him having a negative opinion bc he never got to know Astarion.

Anyway, those are my thoughts and reasons.

[passionesolja]

I have no logical reasoning for this take. I know that Astarion and Petras didn’t like each other but I feel like EarlyAcces!Astarion and Petras were probably friends. Like my headcanon is right before EarlyAccess!Astarion evolved into Official!Astarion, he gave Petras all his clothes.

[alpaca-clouds]

Cazador's Spawn Headcanons - Pt. 2

Okay, based on what I posted yesterday, let me go a bit into how I think Astarion's relations with his siblings were.

As I said, my headcanon is that Yousen was created just three years after Astarion, because Cazador intended for them to be rivals. And he was quite successful with that. They were. And Yousen was also quite willing to partake in "punishing" Astarion, whenever he got the chance to do so. But again, Yousen was also punished not that rarely basically because he so willingly killed his victims - rather than bringing them back.

Violet was a bit more hesitant about partaking in everything, especially in the punishment of her siblings. She quickly fell in line though, when it came to doing her job. There was not a lot of trust between her and Astarion, but at least the relationship was not as bad as with Yousen.

Pale Petras meanwhile just completely drank the coolaid. He thought that actually Cazador did want good for them and to make them more powerful. Also he was... well, he is an idiot, but he also knew that it was wise to just do what was expected from him. He also considered Astarion an idiot for still managing to piss off Cazador all the time. (And he totally did not get that Astarion could literally not do right by Cazador.)

With Darylia we actually know a bit more about her motivation. She saw all of this very much as a scientific excercise. And in my headcanon one of her favorite quote was "for the greater good".

Now, Aurelia was the "weak one". She went into total shock mode after she had been turned. She was not responsive and absolutely not willing to do Cazador's bidding, which is why Astarion very much identified with her and became protective of her, going so far as to take some of her punishment. However, this ended up biting him in the ass, as after a while she went on to blame him for her mistake to evade Cazador's punishment.

Leon... Well, I have a bit of a story for Leon. But... I think I will save that one for later.

[thebalancedangel]

Cazador: Alright, plotting's over! Time to retreat to my personal quarters! Godey: Hey, master, wanna walk to your chambers together? Cazador: Nope! Godey: Oh, okay, wanna chat for a bit? Cazador: Not even a little! Godey: Okay, but- Cazador: Okay, whatever, bye! ----- Petras: Hey, Master, wanna hear a funny joke? Cazador: Hahahaha- Don't talk to me. ----- Aurelia: Hello, Master. Cazador: Nope! Aurelia: I just wanted to tell- Cazador: Don't care! Aurelia: My backstory- Cazador: Whatever! Cazador: My whole family was murdered- Cazador: Skip skip skip… Aurelia: *while Cazador "skips"* I watched them all die. Little did I know, it was all orchestrated by the village. And it was my brother who planned it from the start. Cazador: Nope nope nope nope.. Aurelia: *while Cazador nopes* He knew our family had discovered the truth. The truth about the older drow twin. The real drow twin died five years ago. But the village replaced him with an imposter. The true identity of the "older drow twin" is actually… Cazador: Nope nope nope… Aurelia: And that's why I must kill- Cazador: Okay, bye! *Cazador turns around and is surprised by Astarion* Cazador: Oh! Hello, Astarion. Astarion: Oh. Hello. *reading a book* Cazador: Do you have any plans tonight? Astarion: Yes. I'm busy. *reading book* Cazador: *to himself* Oh, he's so defiant. Astarion: Did you need something? Cazador: *to himself* But underneath that cold exterior- Astarion: *in the background* What do you need? Cazador: *to himself* …you know he really is scared of me. Astarion: I don't have a lot of time right now. Cazador: *to himself* He's so dreamy… Astarion: *in the background* Who are you again?

[depressedandasian]

I feel bad for Petras. He's gone through much of the same torment that Astarion did, but he receives far less sympathy.

[flowersforagrave]

[nemesis-eris]

Find vampire spawn

I need some help. With Astarion in my team, I went to Fraygo's Flophous, where I found two vampire spawns (my job would be to find at least one, right), but as soon as they noticed us, they disappeared. In principle, you can talk to them based on the Internet, but what if they simply disappeared?

[gortashs-skidmark]

Hey guys! Welcome back to another episode of karens! uhm, sorry i've been a little bit busy. If you don't know, Chelsea and I had a baby.

He's vampire cody ko fr

[fangsandfeels]

Don't come at me, but I am confused why whenever there is a plot about one of Astarion's siblings going full villain, this sibling is almost always Petras. I agree; he is a jerk and a bully. But he is also the guy who gobbles up Cazador's bullshit about getting freedom with ZERO suspicions. Aurelia and Leon are hopeful, but it doesn't take them long to realize it is yet another way for Cazador to break them, and of course, he never intended to let them go.

Petras is oblivious to the point he is already making plans for the future and composing his menu. He is also the guy who flirts (badly) with the first person who approaches him without even considering the risk of the said person being a vampire hunter. Like, Tav can be wearing full plate armor and have a hugeass war hammer slung over their shoulder, and Petras would still go "Yes, this is the perfect naive victim to seduce. They will totally fall for my charms" with Dalyria cringing and trying to do damage control at the back.

Petras makes Astarion look like a criminal mastermind.

And no, I'm not saying that he can't be an antagonist to Astarion at all.

He can be dangerous by deciding to go his own way, gathering the group of spawn who share his views, and making a part of the Sword Coast his hunting grounds. But don't I see him plotting complicated schemes or even trying to recreate Cazador's rituals. He may try, but in my opinion, he will fail hilariously. No intervention needed.

Now, speaking of a more dangerous and tragic potential adversary, Leon is right here. He is a sorcerer. Moreover, if the nature of the spell he used to protect Victoria is anything to go by, he is experienced with Necromancy (I may be wrong; the blood thing could have belonged to the Transmutation school, though).

He is the top performer. And, he is a desperate father who did it all to keep his daughter safe. Now, I still assume that he managed to smuggle Victoria out of the palace -- which would keep him his calm and reasonable self. But if Victoria is really dead?...It would mean that everything he did, all these victims, all that suffering, all the measures he took, all the hurt he inflicted on his siblings/inmates - it all was for nothing. He was ready to die for Victoria to live. He was willing to sacrifice an orphan to save his girl. And he failed.

He failed her.

Wouldn't that push him over the edge? The desperation, the devastation, the horror? Wouldn't that create a void in his undead heart and put him into denial and resentment for his fellow spawns (he didn't know HOW she died, but he had seen enough hungry looks from Dal and Violet)?

Wouldn't he become obsessed with "fixing" it somehow because he already went so far to protect his daughter...why not go even further to bring her back, let her live the life that was so unfairly taken from her? He doesn't care about power, about sunwalking, he doesn't give a shit about anything and anyone -- he wants his child back. And he will make it happen.

At any cost.

[thedomesticanthropologist]

Siblings amirite 🤷‍♀️

[vspin]

I really like Petras' reaction here: "What the hells happened to you, Astarion? What are you?"

There is a datamined post (I can't find it!) where Aurelia and Leon are scoffing at Astarion. Making comments like "You were always the runt", "Always crying", and "You never supported our plans to try and escape."

I think this gives so much insight into what Astarion was like under Cazador. Completely resigned.

[raoneven]

Astarion and his siblings 🩸🖤