#bin laden letter

[liberty1776]

A letter from Osama Bin Laden has been deleted after it caused an entire generation to have an existential crisis. The letter was published by The Guardian in 2002. They deleted in on Wednesday after it caused young people to question their own country's involvement in the war on terror. Are these budding peace activists in training?

Thoes who stand with Israel are actually pro genocide and for murdering civilians. Justin Trudeau seems to have gotten something right. Gen Z people seem to be seeking and finding truth. Government cencerorship is trying to continue to hide truth.

My belief is that Bin Laden's letter was him just trying to take credit for an attack he and his organization had nothing to do with, although most of what the letter says is very valid. It was Israel that did the 9/11 attacks as a false flag to get the USA to attack its enemies. It worked and the US attacked Afghanistan and Iraq. Iraq was attacked for having non existent WMDs while Israel really had WMDs a reason US can not legally aid Israel and should stand with Israel's enemies, because Israel is actually the USAs biggest enemy.

[a-god-in-ruins-rises]

so apparently people "discovered" bin laden's letter.

and now they're acting like their minds are blown.

and i don't get it. all these people are doing is outing themselves as gullible idiots who love to fall for propaganda no matter what side it comes from.

even as a kid i understood that the terrorists had their grievances. but all of these grown ass adults are just barely figuring this out? they thought that these terrorists just woke up one day and randomly decided they hated america for no reason? that's what they believed?

seriously i'd be embarrassed to publicly admit (1) that i never knew terrorists had motivations and (2) that learning this information is putting me into an existential crisis.

i hate democracy. i seriously can't stomach the fact that these people can vote. this is so fucked. that the future of my nation is in the hands of empty-headed zombies.

[xtruss]

Osama Bin Laden’s 21-Year-Old Letter Goes Viral After TikTok Influencers Promote It, Netizens Say 'Eyes Opened'

— Washington DC | Edited By: C Krishnasai | November 16, 2023 | Wionews

Many TikTok influencers started sharing the text from British news outlet ‘The Guardian’, which had published the two-page document in 2002 containing his ideological standing and explanation over what led him to engineer the 9/11 attacks. Photograph:(Agencies)

Story Highlights:

Among the major takeaways of the 21-year-old incendiary document, bin Laden’s statement that the 9/11 attacks happened because of America’s support of Israel caught everyone’s attention.

“Letter to America”, a two-decade-old letter written by the late terrorist Osama bin laden, is going viral online after some TikTok influencers claimed that the missive provides clues to the ongoing Israel-Hamas war and that it can be read to make sense of the current world order.

Many TikTok influencers started sharing the text from the British news outlet ‘The Guardian’, which had published the two-page document in 2002 containing his ideological standing and explanation over what led him to engineer the 9/11 terror attacks.

Osama's Statement on 9/11 Attacks Gaining Traction

Among the major takeaways of the 21-year incendiary document, bin Laden’s statement that the 9/11 attacks happened because of America’s support of Israel caught everyone’s attention.

“They threw hundreds of thousands of soldiers against us and have formed an alliance with the Israelis to oppress us and occupy our land; that was the reason for our response on the eleventh,” the letter, which can easily be found elsewhere online, reads in part.

Letter Read by Millions of Users

The TikTok trend gained traction after an influencer, Lynnette Adkins, posted a short video on the social media platform in which she can be heard telling her nearly 12 million followers, “I need everyone to stop doing what they’re doing right now and go read ‘Letter to America,’ I feel like I’m going through an existential crisis right now.”

The responses to her videos ranged from a user saying that their “eyes have been opened,” to another user claiming, “We’ve been lied to our entire lives, I remember watching people cheer when Osama was found and killed.”

Guardian Removes Article

After the letter went viral, The Guardian removed the original letter from its site. Now, when a user opens the particular link, they are greeted with a message which reads, “This page previously displayed a document containing, in translation, the full text of Osama bin Laden’s ‘Letter to the American people’, as reported in the Observer on Sunday 24 November 2002. The document, which was published here on the same day, was removed on 15 November 2023.”

Netizens Question Move

Many netizens shared the screenshot of the website on social media X and questioned the British daily’s decision to take down the article. A user wrote, “It's incredibly odd for to me that ‘A Letter to America’ penned by bin Laden was removed from The Guardian today. This letter was printed on their site in 2002 and removed after TikTokers started to examine it due to his mention of Israel and Palestine.”

Another user asked why the letter was removed from the site and wrote, “Letter to America is trending, so I went to pull it up. The guardian just removed the document. Osama bin Laden’s letter to America starts trending on Twitter, and The Guardian immediately removes it from their archive?”

Meanwhile, a spokesperson for the UK outlet told TheWrap, “The transcript published on our website 20 years ago has been widely shared on social media without the full context. Therefore we have decided to take it down and direct readers to the news article that originally contextualised it instead.”

[domina-honoribila]

You can't be a millennial if you don't remember 9/11, sorry.

Are you a part of Generation Fucked?

[stopfunkinwmyheart]

[headlinehorizon]

Unveiling the Controversial 'Letter to America' by Usama bin Laden

https://headlinehorizon.com/U.S./Terror/1402

Discover the resurgence of Usama bin Laden's 'Letter to America' and its impact on social media. Uncovering the extremist rhetoric, conspiracy theories, and threats within the diatribe.

[aci25]

EXTREME: Big Tech Censors Viral Osama bin Laden Letter | SYSTEM UPDATE

[msclaritea]

"I feel like I died & ascended to heaven, but sinned enough on earth that St Pete has dealt me a pre-heaven punishment: watching self-righteous 18-year-olds regurgitate the same dumb shit I said when I was a self-righteous 18 yr old except, somehow, in even stupider formulations.

This is made even more annoying by the "new" young leftists acting like they've uncovered some original counter-cultural thought.

Them: "Do you want to know the TRUTH about America?"

Me: "Yes, I too, have watched Manufacturing Consent ten times. NEXT."

The world is an objectively different place than it was 20 yrs ago. Why are you all saying the same things (except, again, stupider) that I said when I was 20 yrs old? Maybe it's b/c your political identity is being shaped by forces that exist beyond current political reality?

I volunteered for the Nader campaign in 2000, when I was too young to vote. I thought being subjected to "lesser of two evils" discourse in 2016 would constitute my necessary penance, but boy oh boy was I wrong. Now we're at "Maybe Bin Laden had a point."

I saw a viral tweet the other day about how "it's all about the oil" and I think I had a brain bleed. Let me please wave my cane at you and say, "It's very rarely actually just about the oil NEXT."

If you doubt the veracity of this existential torture, allow me to present you with evidence. Here is an email I wrote in 2003, 20 years ago, when I was 19 years old, in which I rant about Democrats & capitalism:

The only thing that's "new" about any of this is social media. Twitter acts as a distillery for the worst aspects of our human minds. This stupidity has always existed, but algorithms purify & strengthen it, making everyone a bit more drunk. We must tune it out as best we can.

When I was 17, my brother got arrested in the Battle For Seattle. I dropped out of high school & joined him in a Bellingham anarchist commune. I did FoodNotBombs. I protested both wars. I got food poisoning from some dumpster yams. You will not out-leftist me, you little weirdos.

[thejewishlink]

TikTok Is ‘Aggressively’ Scrubbing Videos Praising Bin Laden’s ‘Letter to America’

TikTok is in the process of taking down videos on its platform that promote Osama Bin Laden’s letter justifying the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States, with the tech company saying that the content “clearly violates” platform rules against “supporting any form of terrorism.” In a statement to X on Thursday, TikTok said it was “proactively and aggressively removing this content and…

[weemietime]

I really can't overstate how massively tired I am of western leftist children chanting globalize the Intifada. Truly, it's mind-blowing that anyone takes these Tik Toks seriously. It's always someone who couldn't point out Gaza on a map, doesn't know from what river to what sea, doesn't speak a Middle Eastern language, doesn't practice any Middle Eastern religion.

Hasn't ever been involved in armed conflict, hasn't ever experienced combat first-hand yet somehow they have magically become the authority on what constitutes genocide in an urban warfare scenario where the enemy is asymmetrically embedded into the civilian population.

Positively stunning that these folks with their BLM posters in the background start reading Osama Bin Laden's Letter to America which is some of the most profoundly, virulent antisemitic gibberish, with complete and utter sincerity. Never seen a gun in real life, never been homeless or brutalized by the police. Yet they somehow bestowed upon themselves the qualifications with which to speak about this extraordinarily complex subject.

Sorry, man. I don't give a shit what some 21 year Christianized Californian white person who couldn't say a single sentence in Hebrew or Arabic thinks about fucking Israel and Palestine. Have you ever considered the possibility that you should listen more than you speak? Listen to actual Jews, actual Palestinians. These people, they don't even know any Palestinians, lmao. They couldn't name five Palestinians they personally know off-hand.

And yeah someone will probably reblog this like oh blah blah blah I'm this and that - - what I mean is that even if you can say you've had a lived experience, the vast majority of the people around you who are spewing the same takes as you, who you're reblogging from and platforming - - a majority of these dudes genuinely could not even tell you who the president of Israel is.

Am I gate-keeping a centuries old ethnic and religious conflict steeped in highly nuanced, intricate layers spanning generations? Yeah. Maybe that dude on the college campus with the watermelon hat spouting off how much he loves the literally genocidal Houthis ("based Houthis," even) screaming "Zionazis go back to Europe," isn't the fucking four-star General Douchebag we need right now.

[0o-junebug-o0]

About Interstellar Song Contest: (spoilers and analysis below the cut)

I’ve seen a bunch of people really digging into this episode on Twitter and I agree, but only to an extent. The torture scene was horrible and unnecessary and Belinda should have had way more of a reaction to the Doctor’s actions than saying he scared her (and definitely shouldn’t have told him he’s wonderful so soon after).

This tweet encompasses my thoughts on her response.

Also, I really hope we see him get consequences in future episodes for it (especially along the lines of how they did it in waters of mars). And I think (please be the case) that there might me some coming bc of the Doctor saying the ice in his heart was still there. I feel like including that line sets up for further discussion and exploration into the Doctors dark side and moral ambiguity and the consequences of it. It wouldn’t make sense narratively to include that line (which seems to be very obvious foreshadowing) and then go nowhere.

In regards to the Doctors actions, they are wrong, there’s no doubt about it. But people are portraying it as him knowingly punishing Kid for his response to the genocide of his people. But the Doctor didn’t know about Hellia, Cora only told Belinda. He had no way to know, he thought this was just a guy who wanted to kill 3 trillion people, he didn’t know what had happened to radicalize him. The Doctor is also a victim of genocide and he probably saw it as (bc of his lack of knowledge of Kids background and situation) Kid being about to commit another one (which he was). He literally said it reminded him of Gallifrey.

This is also a timing issue with the episode. Because we just had the scene of their situation being explained to Belinda. Which makes us sympathetic to them (as we should be) followed by /that/ scene. So people forget the Doctor doesn’t know.

A lot of people were also mad about the singing at the end and felt it kind of trivialized everything and while I understand that. I don’t really agree. It shows that the first step in fighting this kind of stuff is humanizing the victims because people don’t care about people they don’t see as human (or whatever they may be in doctor who).

The timing of this episode is also poor but a quick google search will show that filming began for this season in October 2023 and so the episode was most likely written before Oct 7.

There’s a very good and nuanced discussion to be had about this episode and what it both fails and succeeds at doing, and I feel like people are seeing this in a very black and white way. I’m seeing people say that the episode is spreading the message that ‘if we don’t eradicate/stop them they will do something worse’ (paraphrased) and I think that’s just not the case and while I understand where people get that impression I feel like it is a bit of a ridiculous interpretation and ignores a lot of nuance and Cora’s character. It’s totally understandable and right to fight back against the company and the perpetrators of genocide and it is understandable for the victims to want to get revenge in the same violent manner, but that just can’t be allowed. It is also an ineffective way of fighting back bc that just gives the oppressor more “reason” to oppress. They can point and say, “look what just happened, this is why we’re doing this.” By trying to get revenge in this way, Kid is becoming what he hates.

These are just my quickly thrown together thoughts. Hope this makes sense.

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

Edit:

Another thing I thought of is how it could be a commentary about how our actions and inactions lead to extremism. For example, in his letters Bin Laden said the motivation for 9/11 was the West’s support for attacking and oppressing Muslims and the US interference in the Middle East and imperialist aggressions against the ‘Muslim world’.

[garbageday]

By now you have, no doubt, heard all about the dangerous new TikTok trend sweeping the nation. China’s great and powerful cyber weapon has convinced the innocent teenagers of America that Osama bin Laden was actually a pretty cool guy and now they’re all sharing his 2002 “Letter To America”. Well, first, just to get it out of the way, Osama bin Laden was actually bad. Also, a nepo baby.

After spending most of yesterday digging into this, I’m pretty convinced that this was never a real thing on TikTok. Even though it has since snowballed into a full on moral panic that is beginning to feel dangerously unstable. The Biden administration released a statement about the supposed trend and alarmed big-name creators and actors also reportedly met with TikTok this week to discuss the rise of antisemitism on the app.

Baseless generational in-fighting, aging millennials who refuse to accept the new status quo of the internet, easily monetizable rage bait, lazy TikTok trend reporting, and bad faith political actors swirled together to create a perfect storm this week.

The story has morphed from what should have been a weird curiosity — and perhaps even a moment to reflect on America’s post-9/11 legacy — into a full-blown national scandal with dumb-dumb headlines getting written about it, like CNN’s “Some young Americans on TikTok say they sympathize with Osama bin Laden”. I mean, I haven’t even had time in this piece to point out that a lot of the people I saw sharing the letter were millennials! But, yeah, teens fucking love Bin Laden. They’re saying 9/11 just hits different now no cap fr. Gen Z wants Baby Gronk to lead Al-Qaeda in a victorious jihad against the western imperialist hegemony gyatt!!

We have invented a version of TikTok that simply does not exist and now many people in power are ready to tear apart the foundation of internet to prove it does. And what’s worse here is that there are very real issues with how TikTok works. It is a major source of misinfo and disinfo. It still has a terrible bullying problem. And, ironically enough, it’s also one of the most oppressively censorious social platforms that has ever existed. To the point users had to create a puritanical version of leet speak to communicate on it. But we can’t even begin to address those issues unless we start to look clear-eyed at what is actually happening on the app. And it is most certainly not the digital hub of a large-scale Gen Z Bin Laden fandom. Be fucking serious.

The internet is an extremely chaotic living ecosystem and it’s constantly reacting to itself and all you accomplish by amplifying something like this is give more ammo to those who want to who want to take that away. You turn bizarre discourse into something bigger than it was ever meant to be. You pointlessly villainize normal people who aren’t public figures and don’t deserve this kind of scrutiny. And you help conservative political movements continue their culture war. You also just look like clueless boomer to anyone even slightly younger than you.

[Read more over on Garbage Day]

[liesmyth]

???????? you people need to touch grass

Just saw THE most horrifying #take I've seen in this latest couple months of bad takes. I swear, some of you anarcho-queer anti-state terminally online fuckers are two steps away from unironically revisiting Mein Kampf

[thoughtportal]

Yuri Kochiyama (河内山 百合子 (ユリ・コウチヤマ), Kōchiyama Yuriko, born Mary Yuriko Nakahara; May 19, 1921 – June 1, 2014) was an American civil rights activist born in San Pedro, California. She was interned at the Jerome War Relocation Center in Arkansas during World War II, an experience that influenced her later views on racism in the United States. While interned, she helped run a letter-writing campaign to Nisei (transl. 'Second-generation') soldiers, wrote for the Jerome camp newspaper, and volunteered with the United Service Organizations (USO).

After the end of the war, Kochiyama moved to New York and eventually to Harlem, where she became involved in the civil rights movement. At first working with the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE), Kochiyama's friendship with civil rights leader Malcolm X led her to affiliate with Black nationalist organizations such as the Organization of Afro-American Unity (OAAU), the Revolutionary Action Movement (RAM), and the Republic of New Afrika (RNA).

Kochiyama was an advocate for political prisoners, including imprisoned members of the civil rights movement, the Puerto Rican independence movement, and others, helping to found the National Committee to Defend Political Prisoners (NCDPP)[a] in the early 1970s. She is credited with playing an influential role in the Asian American movement and was a member of the organization Asian Americans for Action (AAA). In the 1980s, she participated in the redress movement for Japanese Americans interned during World War II, resulting in the signing of the Civil Liberties Act of 1988, which offered reparations to internment survivors.

Kochiyama is noted for her revolutionary nationalist views and her opposition to imperialism. She drew controversy in 2003 by praising Osama bin Laden, comparing him to Malcolm, Che Guevara, Patrice Lumumba, and Fidel Castro. She has also been the subject of several biographies, children's books, and documentaries and was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize in 2005 alongside 1,000 other women.

[abbiistabbii]

OK so you know Osama Bin Laden, the guy behind 9/11?

So here's something they don't tell you that often. He had a computer, but no internet connection because, well, he didn't want to be tracked, so all digital info (letters, emails, games, media) was brought to him by a courier using an SD card.

When they shot Bin Laden, they found his hard drives. He had porn on said Hard Drives amongst all the letters and articles and movies he had.

So, to get said Pornography, Osama Bin Fuckin' Laden, had to come up to his courier, who had been passing messages and letters along to and from him on an SD card, and be all "hey can you get me some porn? I really like this kind so yeah, come back with porn, kthnxbai.

This guy, whoever he was, had the most bizarre experience in the world were the most Wanted man in the world came up to him and asked him for Girls Gone Wild 44: this time there's pegging.

[themoonsbeloved]

I think the wildest thing out of this regarding letter to America is if you need to read about America and 9/11 and Palestine from osama bin laden of all people for your life to have profoundly changed and "never be the same again", rather than literally all the expansive literature by anti-colonial and leftist Muslim and Arab writers that have existed since before you were born you really need to figure out what the fuck is going on with yourself.