#bugbox

[dailydwshipwheel]

Today's DW ship of the day is...

Boxten x Flutter !

Ship names; SilentMusic, SilentSong, SongBug, BugBox, HeartBeats, ButterflyMusical, ButterflySong, Sound of Silence

[terraliensvent]

Ok civ's response is honestly kinda funny, I should've known only someone equally as delusional could go along with coy's bullshit all this time.

https://toyhou.se/~bulletins/2068868.update

Image link in case it gets deleted: https://imgur.com/a/lDxBSoT

As another unemployed artist the fact they think terra staff "ruined their income" when not only are they absolutely popular enough to make money off their art. They also have coy's audience backing them as well, so this claim is extremely laughable to me. Try having no audience at all and not having a community made up of big spenders from cs communities, then maybe we'll feel a little sympathy.

Or better yet maybe if you and coy contributed an ounce of effort beyond being greedy assholes you'd still be able to make money off the species. But no, clearly they never learn their fucking lesson because every single species they've made eventually gets ruined because of their insistence on running the species according to how much money they can make.

It's genuinely hilarious to me that they both actually think they're the victims in this situation because terra staff finally put their foots down and said they can't keep using the species for money. Go get a damn job if you're that desperate and stop taking advantage of the people who want to actually enjoy the species and especially stop causing issues for the terra staff team who are actually fucking trying despite all the bullshit they've had to go through because of you both.

I'm so tired of them and entitled greedy cs owners in general, I couldn't fathom being this self centered honestly it's sad.

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yeah i think im gonna call bullshit on this, lets do a little dissection here

" What they didn't mention was how they banned both coy and myself (even though I had nothing to do with the deletion of the pets/left the conversation civilly before that was discussed), "

even if civ had nothing to do with deleting the pets, i would argue terra staff made the right choice in banning them. what coy did is equivalent to vandalism and can cause further problems if there are issues with code and such. furthermore, wouldnt it make sense to ban civ as well if theyre closely associated and have the power on the account to do more vandalism? civ you werent doing shit for the species other than farting out adopts every week, youll live.

 "..refused to negotiate with us, did not include us in the original discussion about OUR OWN TERMS that were agreed on when we left ownership, and the new owner was unwilling to participate in the discussion originally."

i am SO curious to see what actually went on in staff chat. the conclusion im personally drawing here is that the original discussion occurred in a staff-only chat (somewhere where civ and coy wouldnt be because theyre NOT FUCKING STAFF) and then when the final agreement was reached, they came to civ and coy. maybe they could have gone differently about it but honestly, knwoing now that civ and coy have continually shut down any sort of discussion like this due to their greed (cough cough THIS whole debacle) im not surprised they wouldnt be asked for their two cents.

"Both sides have made mistakes; but the terra staff refused to acknowledge their dishonest and disrespectful actions that led up to this. Had they been willing to compromise and talk to us, this wouldn't have happened. "

again i am just not willing to believe this when civ and coy have a history of being shitty to staff (shall i bring back the receipts?), when cal(tycho) has a history of being a good owner even after the enormous shitshow of what you put him through, when, after you two finally fucked off, things are actually being MOVED FORWARD in the species (like trait guides, new items to allow lim traits, new site assets, all within a timeframe of like. two months. civ and coy had the species for over a fucking year and did nothing. just some food for thought)

like im not going to believe you unless you give adequate proof in the form of screenshots or something. but they probably wouldnt do that because it would most likely show current staff being totally reasonable and you two shitting your diapers over it.

"They silenced me and put their foot down, ruining my source of income as a disabled unemployed artist."

hmm lets crunch some numbers here

you have seven terra adopts that are on your most recent designs tab. presumably you are allowed to keep the money from that because it happened before everything went down

now a lot of these are pretty pricey, the first in the list is $300

however if you go through the rest of their recent designs its all little chibi stuff for around ~$20. that could be a defense for the "wah wah you stole my one source of income" if it werent for the fact these designs almost never go unsold, they have chibi slots open for $45, and they also have fucking isopups to ride the coattails off of. like you will be fine, you have many ways to make money off of your art as opposed to some 10 follower account. this is pop artist bitching at its finest.

and again, it is THEIR FAULT they dont have terra income anymore. how in the world is it fair for them to have more money opportunities than people actively working on the species just because they slapped their names on it.

finally lets do a funny little comment showcase!

people keep equating the old staff team to the new staff team. lets talk about bear, lets talk about kea, lets talk about fucking coy. thats the staff YOU employed, not the people trying to throw together the pieces. you want to again, absolve yourself of all responsibility acting like it wasnt YOUR FRIENDS that YOU picked for the staff team that was causing problems. bear literally caused the first downfall of the species (architechals) and YOUR staff are the ones who ran with it and decided to be petty and immature and make knockoffs. i swear to god this reminds me of people saying shit like "the economy was better under x president!" when the current president inherits the economy of the previous one

jesse please do everyone a favor and just shut up for once, you only care as long as you can profit off of the situation, your wording is so stupid i genuinely lost braincells. civ and coy absolutely do have the means to make money off their art, far more than other people, and the issue with the situation is that theyre making more money off the species than the people actually putting in work to maintain the fucking species, the agreement according to tycho would have STILL allowed them to make more than terra staff but they were too greedy and stupid to just shut up. and to make an ableism argument really just makes me want to bash my head into a wall. civ is not some poor discarded puppy "thrown out in the rain," they have the ability to make a lot more fucking money than most others can off of art, and not to mention they have the ability to use the fans of those they have connections with, like coy or even fucking kea

but in all seriousness, its SO fucking funny to me how theyre acting like civ and coy are some fucking marytrs for terraliens, like they were working sleepless nights to do the best they could each and every day hoping and praying they could make it!! please be fucking for real. again, that species did not even have TRAIT GUIDES for the full calendar year after it was created because civ and coy just didnt give enough of a fuck to do it. listen im gonna ride or die for new staff right now because there is TANGIBLE EVIDENCE of them actually going above and beyond anything ever done under civ and coy. compare #staff-wips from civ and coys reign to now. before, all you would see is adopts. thats it. nothing else just adopts. now, within the course of three months, new staff have come up with unique events, had lore writer, mod, and OA applications, released a new set of forageables THAT GIVE REWARDS, entirely revamped one of the forage areas with plans to do the rest, held the myo compensation event (a feat in and of itself), show CONTINUAL wips of shit actually important to the species (like new items), take in community input, and again, above all else, FINALLY put out trait guides. id say theyre doing fucking leagues more work than civ and coy ever did.

and this is just fucking laughable. ive already made all my arguments, you can see the types of people we are dealing with here. calling jealousy is absurd and downright hilarious

their fanbases need to wake tf up because these people love to victimize themselves and misconstrue shit all day long

[myplushheart]

you command? i will follow.

bit of the video this is based on:

[art-octopus]

More art fighting

In order the characters are

Nihil by Lone_Pylon ( @lone-pylon )

Cyrus by Kipparadox

Sweet Tooth and Syringe by NotLem

Razor Blade by -UT

BugBox by _Pr1ckles_

Evan by raininglight

Spiked Collar by onewaytickettohell

Gray Pelican by BIGbluepelican

Bitezize by WRYMSOUP (@/CloudedSkies29)

Verglas and Quicksand by Aspidistra3210

[csmeanerr]

Hellooooo anons! I’m feeling salty as FUCK today, so:

-WellHidden is a dickhead for not paying his admins

-Saunt is a lazy, greedy cunt who sells sketches for thousands— probably stuck that tablet pen up their ass too before selling chibis for 100 eur

-Densy is a moron in both business and design. That’s it

-Dainites are like if I made gryphons wear jackets and sold them as my own

-Terraliens are stupid as shit and they piss themselves if someone even uses the “transparent container with something inside” thing

-Seel isn’t even active lmfao, they just drop some random object themed Cham for $1k+ and dip for another year

-Sirfluff’s designs are just thinly veiled fetishes

-Waterdogs are even more fucking stupid as a concept, though all cs are

-Any CS that has a name of an animal combined with a noun is a cashgrab

-CS mods are like if Discord and Reddit mods had a lovechild and were able to make money off of shitty scribbles that look like a 5 year old drew them

-Succubuns are stupid af, mods need to grow some thicker skin

wellhidden not paying admins proof

saunt selling very sketchy designs for large prices when they can certainly make higher quality designs + a 100euro design that is less quality than even previous ones

the grems tag in general

dainties released a new subspecies called basals and have already started selling them for high prices

terralien tag since there's no specific issue mostly the co-owner bugbox drawing nsfw stuff as a minor and the species being generally understaffed and inconsistent with traits

chimereons has been on hiatus since july 14th 2023 and the last activity of seel in the species was may 24 2022 for an auction that went to 2.6k

sirfluffbutt's multitude of body horror themes in chowlings + did a youtube video of a censored nsfw game uploaded to their audience of minors

that time waterdogs made having disabilities a mythical trait

succubun mods banning users for negative reception about the species outside the server

some people think all ppl do here is complain (which is also true lol) but cs owners have done a multitude of terrible things using their platforms

[csmingy]

lol, yeah, terras is still shit. for those who havent been in the loop:

tycho, the new owner is really shitty at his job: https://www.tumblr.com/terraliensvent/762103430676398080/guys-read-the-whole-post-im-sorry-its-long-just?source=share

he also worked one of the (now former) admins to the bone while not directing other mods to pick up the slack: https://www.tumblr.com/terraliensvent/767454271177375744/tycho-is-a-shitty-owner-part-infinity?source=share

one of the new trial mods ratted on richie (a now former lore writer who actively critiqued terras while they were on the team) over a months old trade to get them fired: https://www.tumblr.com/terraliensvent/769902491210039296/question-who-is-coffee-and-what-did-they-do?source=share

and most recently, zagazero admitted to colluding with bugbox/lemoncivet/ginnedtonic (the original species owner) to ip grab the original blog owner: https://www.tumblr.com/terraliensvent/769707702413918208/a-blast-from-the-past-terras-and-ip-grabbing?source=share

and veal (someone who wrote a doc about civ being weird and traumadumping on them when they were 16) just got doxxed as of 2 days ago, with some evidence pointing to civ or one of their friends being the culprit: https://www.tumblr.com/terraliensvent/769811678728765441/no-more-self-promo-in-my-inbox?source=share

(part 2 of above): https://www.tumblr.com/terraliensvent/769903653820809216/veal-dox-update?source=share

this is all within the past 3 months.

Terras just need to explode it's a wonder they're still active. . . Thank you terrablog! 🍈

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[isopup-vent]

In regards to Civ being a mod, there’s a bulletin regarding them on TH that’s worth a read, https://toyhou.se/~forums/5867.service-reviews/551946.sharkrival-bugbox-a-lengthy-summary-and-review?page=0

It’s got imgur galleries and a doc the Terraliens mods made. Civ is NOT someone anyone should support.

Rhys is in the Bulletin too, though that situation is in the comments. Rhys also Mods for Civ’s semi-open species, and let me tell you, they’re both god awful at proper moderation and deescalation. I’d honestly recommend jumping ship from Isopups at this point. Glad to see that the site is at least decently functional now though, Zaga was an awful owner.

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Civ doesn't know what quitting means. It's wild to me, as they can likely make just as much money without being netted up in all the drama they create in species spaces.

Hard agree anon.

[csvent-2]

In regards to this post: https://www.tumblr.com/csvent-2/759367552664240128/httpswwwtumblrcomterraliensvent7580868573115

If anyone cares to comment or spread it; someone made a bulletin talking about the whole thing in depth, including Civ making the old owners pay for their FAMILY’S domains on top of the Terra site domain. Not sure if the old owner ever got the refund of $200 that Civ owes them, but Civ blamed it on the old owner because they “didn’t remind me.” Like wtf?

Bulletin that goes over everything: https://toyhou.se/~forums/5867.service-reviews/551946.sharkrival-bugbox-a-lengthy-summary-and-review?page=0

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[wormbloggign]

you have a feeling its going to be a long day (stakeout time babeyyy)

why doesnt she just setup a bugnopticon (panop-tick-on?) on the side, im sure somethings happening somewhere she could listen in on to

BUG BOX?!?! this is her batmobile. this is her invisible jet. but its just a box. with a heater. and some bugs. i love it

....girl.....no...........wdym alexandria lunchbox. thats so fucked on so many ways....dont put bugs in there

..........

long distance yuri (1.6m words)

she did something similar in the leviathan fight too, and a couple other times. i love how the world is her noticeboard

premeditate. isolate. exterminate.

shes a fucking murder movie villain. i loev it

O_O

this poor clown(?) guy. hes getting the lung treatment

so deeply unsettling. all of it

"Now youre caught in my net!" said the spider to the fly. "AAAGH!!!!" said the fly who just found out how sticky nets can be.

(that bug fucking bitch? yeah i assume they tried it at least once)

she's getting her bugbox(tm)!

maybe its because of my hiatus but it feels like shes doing a lot more actively horrifying things with her power now that she has the PRT implicitly backing her actions

yeah this man isnt surviving the story.

[thdramas2]

Sharkrival / Bugbox / Civ bulletin that just got posted: https://toyhou.se/~forums/5867.service-reviews/551946.sharkrival-bugbox-a-lengthy-summary-and-review?page=0

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[thdrama2]

was browsing around and i saw this lol idk if its just me but I feel like these designs aren't that similar at all what was bugbox smoking bro toyhou.se/22229890.public-blacklist/22229902.bugbox

Linked.

Old drama from spring 2023 but I see your point.

[terraliensvent]

It’s genuinely sickening to see some of the comments on Civ’s post (all of them along this vein are from fucking isopup mods, typical.) trying to use the fact that Civ is a disabled teen to make staff look worse as if staff is not also disabled teens, as if they know fucking anything about staff’s lives and their struggles. Like shut the fuck up oh my god, these things are not comparable, and acting as if Civ’s disability has anything to do with their boot is disingenuous and disgusting.

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its a martyr complex again. the "poor me im so disabled" argument doesnt work when the OTHER disabled people who are volunteering their work are getting less opportunities for compensation than you who is just sitting on the sidelines doing nothing. not to mention you have a perfectly fine source of income from oneoffs AND isopups, whereas some people on the team ONLY have terras to make income. you are in a more privileged place because you actually have the fanbase to be able to sell outside of terras, there are many on staff who dont.

[myplushheart]

AND SO I’M GONNA PUT YOU IN A BLENDER WITH ME!!!!

[plumbogs]

this is actually a reasonable fear. you should be afraid of benedick's wrath actually

Meanwhile Cassandra is embracing the cat lady life.

She had enough time before work to study her cooking skill, which was necessary for work. put your glasses on... that's not good for your vision...

Alex got the skill for that creativity scholarship and then fished long enough to get the ability to go for a hike. He took Apollo with him for that.

The other cats just hung out.

if i had a nickel for every time this dweeb got swarmed by bees... he managed to find time to greet Darren after the ordeal. a nice surprise for cassandra to come home to at least

Darren's presence reminded me that he bought all that art last time. One of them was Beatrice's painting, which is honestly pretty wholesome :) supporting ur best friend's art career

Daphne had THREE kittens! Nyx, Erebus, and Tartarus. Since the Burbs have been wanting a kitten, I made them invite Lucy over (since John was at work) and sold Tartarus to her. Six cats is far too many for micromanaging.

oh yeah!!!

and the bugbox has spawned more bugs. they find solace amongst the gnomes

[csmeanerr]

wtf is going on in tera? im 100% out of the loop lol

species called architecals pops up that are the same face-less anthro thing that terraliens are known for. as of right now architecals are about 5 days old so it's brand new.

terralien staff begin to prove they know what architecals are by staff member Kinah/Vernie putting it on their preference list in the dislike section

staff then proceed to make designs too similar to an architecal design for it to be coincidence, most notably the iron-gate pattern and ribbon-like limbs

bugbox's that has iron gate pattern

fishpert's that also has iron gate pattern

bear's that takes the ribbon-like limbs

bear had even offered on the architecal

architecal owner (AO) confronts them with the fact they made similar designs

proof that bear absolutely knew of the architecal before they made their similar design and that even the other staff were aware

bugbox then comments admitting they did indeed make the design out of spite for architecals looking too similar to terraliens for their liking, even though the architecal design guide explicitly limits designs so they will not be confused for terraliens, which bugbox admits they never even read

as well as saying they 'see no reason the species cannot coexist as long as there's that boundary' despite as shown above the terralien staff were the ones to cross said boundary

which is also hypocritical even if it was based off terraliens since terraliens were only made because they were originally a rejected cham myo

AO did not accept bugbox's 'apology' since all it did was confirm their actions were hurtful

bugbox proceeds to edit their apology

that's the beginning and end of it. even if you argue they aren't 1:1 the fact of the matter is they were made to intentionally spite both architecals and AO.

this shows terralien staff and bugbox in particular to be vindictive and petty, going out of their way to make their designs public and have other staff members aware that then proceeded to join in

Edit: Jan 11 2024 update

A PSA thread for Terraliens was made. It really, really sucked and was remade in the same day. That one's publicly available in the toyhouse service review forum. AO lost their toyhouse account from terra brown-nosers mass reporting them. Terraliens made their own response to it which was lukewarm at best, and then a better one after things had calmed down.

AO was helped by Terra's financially as their toyhouse acct was their main form of income and they'd like for their username to no longer be associated with the drama so they can regrow their audience. If you'd like to donate to them then please do so here. The issue's been considered resolved by both parties

[csmingy]

It's funny to me when people say they enjoyed terras concept when it was literally based off a rejected cham and bugbox confirmed as much

Yeah, they're not particularly special or unique but chams aren't anything amazing either. 🍈

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