#but fucking KIPPERLILY

[istayawakereading]

I haven’t been able to watch the newest episode until today and I’ve been slowly dying but THE WAIT WAS WORTH IT THAT WAS INSANE

Kipper Lily just straight up murdering Buddy???? OISIN???? Kristen’s paranoia being the saving grace to be able to even WITNESS THAT????????????????Thats not even beginning to cover how totally and unequivocally the bad kids fucking bodied that exam

[wormtime123]

i couldn't rest until i made something this is driving me insane. so what if i dismissed your success as because of your hardships instead of in spite of them

[how-are-you-so-perfect-dear]

imagine you're watching the bad kids, a group of adventurers the same year as you taking the last standard exam, a test no party has ever beaten, and theyre so close to acing it, theyve killed so many monsters already

and their cleric, the previous chosen of your helioic faith, who despite having a dead god has been healing and banishing and blessing and protecting their party from the horrors around them, pops up next to you

and you've been told by your party that theyre rule breakers, kids who can get away with anything, who dont care about school

but you ask kristen applebees, despite it all, if they're alright

and thats the last thing you say before you die

[feelingtheaster99]

I absolutely fucking love Brennan and Sibohan as catty British teen sisters like dishing on their enemies and playfully griping (and expressing honest sentiments of love and affection) at each other

[multiplicityofmind]

the way the rat grinders avoid using names is so smart and horrible - not even just as an anonymity thing. it's like, these rage-filled kids make a point not to use names because they KNOW names have power.

[romeowho]

i guess that's one way to make riz run against kettlecorn colonizer

[dreamingofspring]

Tracker and Kristen's first meeting convo feels like an exact convo Ivy and Buddy have, except instead of an oblivious baby gay not understanding she's being flirted with while having a heart to heart with another spiritual person, it's a Good Ol'Boy™ trying to "oh bless your heart" his way out of a convo with a snarky critic of his faith

Tracker is wlw solidarity and Ivy is wlw hostility

[onlowandhigh]

So Adine saving Ruben from Grix’s Disintegrate is gonna come up up in the Bad Kids v Rat Grinders relations moving forward yes?

[catboymalefeminist]

what's crazy as fuck to me is that the bad kids literally went through kipperlily's therapy notes and everyone's falling over backwards to justify that but god fucking forbid someone who lost her best and only friend in the world has anger issues. you bitches would not have survived the vriska trenches.

[tomurakii]

I'm still a kipperlily apologist actually. Why are we starting the episode talking about how she's been in counselling since freshman year. Maybe after 3 years you should've counselled her better tf

[camillahex]

god i am thinking soooo hard about how lucy and kipperlily were the closest to each other compared to with the rest of the rat grinders like. kipperlily's rage courting/being courted by ankarna, the sister goddess to ravina who was lucy's cleric diety. how we now know the way to truly convert to ankarna is to die and be resurrected in worship of her. lucy's goddess is ruvina, goddess of sorrow, and sorrow and grief are so often covered up by rage because it's easier to feel angry than hurt. i'm thinking ruvina may have protected lucy in some way during whatever happened in the mountains of chaos last year because she absolutely would have known her sister's presence - corrupted as it may be - and influence on lucy's party members, and either prevented lucy from dying in the first place or brought her back herself to keep lucy from her sister's grasp. but because of oblivati mori she wouldn't have been able to tell lucy who it was that resurrected her friends, brought them back a little different, a little more angry. and because lucy's closest friend and party leader is kipperlily, she agrees to the conversion request, because this new diety is the one that brought her friends back, even though ruben is now writing more songs about rage and hate, and ivy's jokes have dropped the pretense of friendly ribbing and are now just mean, and something in kipperlily has gone hard and flat and unyielding, they're still her friends, right? but then kipperlily says she needs to die too, and be resurrected by this nameless diety for the conversion to truly take.

and maybe lucy hesitantly says yes - despite (likely) intense warnings from ruvina - and lets her friends kill her, but then can't go with this new goddess; maybe in death she understands the scope of what her friends are trying to do and refuses ankarna's call, or maybe ruvina refuses to let her sister corrupt her kind-hearted, sorrowful, hopeful cleric (don't sisters just fucking always know where to hit you so it hurts the most; and after a millennia of being dead wouldn't it just burn that your own sister is getting in the way of your resurrection; their fight is what causes the destruction of the forest where lucy's body was found - a battle of giants)

or maybe lucy - steadfast in her conviction to ruvina - says no to kipperlily's plan and withdraws her conversion request, and then watches as kipperlily - blinded by rage, ankarna whispering in her head of vengeance and retribution - gives the order to kill her anyways because she'll either end up coming back on their side or being unable to spill their secrets, and besides, she's already thinking of a potential new cleric they can try again with (helioic of course, because that guy's a fucking loser and wouldn't notice the corruption of his followers if they set his stupid robes on fire)

either way, lucy's dead now, and ruvina has lost a cleric, and ankarna has her resurrection all lined up

[bowenoke]

i'll fully digest kristen's immediate reaction in a second right now i need to really be alone with kipperlily's immediate reaction to getting caught trying to make 6 kids fail an exam being getting herself moved to pass fail. girl why did you do that. girl. the murder is bad on its own yes but girl. your extracurriculars, girl!

[saintkey]

it's one thing for the bad kids to just speculate that the rat grinders might have killed lucy but it's entirely another thing to see it practically confirmed after seeing kipperlily kill buddy with no remorse

[15-lizards]

AND THE WAY THEY THOUGHT LUCY WAS GOING TO COME BACK…you’re 15 years old and tired of being passed over for the same group of kids time and time again. And this teacher, this trustworthy adult figure, tells you he can show you the way. And you want to feel that favoritism you’re jealous of so so bad so you do it. And now he’s making you kill horrible monsters but it’s okay because he’s helping you. And then he’s killing you and your friends, but promises to bring you back and bring you back stronger. So it’s okay. And then you get the last member on board with all of this, your soft hearted cleric, and tell her that once she’s revived it will be okay, because you’ll all be powerful and no one will ever overlook you again. Because that’s what your trustworthy teacher told you. And she dies. But it’s okay because it’s time to bring her back. But she won’t come back. Her soul is refusing because she won’t be part of this. And you keep trying but she just won’t come back. So you’re fifteen years old and have sacrificed all your lives to a god of rage and came back worse than before but it’s okay because you trust your teacher. But you’re fifteen years old and have just killed your friend and she’s not coming back. And suddenly it’s not okay anymore.

[rolanslide]

Im really disturbed by the implications that something killed ALL of the rat grinders + stardiamond during spring break and Lucy's the only one who stayed dead

[bruqh]

for a character who died before i ever met her i would do anything for lucy frostblade