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#but it’s mostly used to infantalize autistic/autistic coded characters
heavy-buddy · 1 year
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im gonna ban allistic people from writing autistic characters
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dj-c00k13 · 16 days
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Dear, Good Omens Fandom
Please for the love of everything do NOT infantilize beings that are quite literally older then time
I've seen it a lot with Muriel mostly but I've also seen a good amount for Crowley and Aziraphale. First of all, again these beings are very very very old and very powerful (at least compared to humans) they are not even close to being children. Second of all, these characters are all very neurodivergent coded, yes Neil has said that they can't technically be neurodivergent but he has also said that they do act and think a lot like neurodivergent folk. Aziraphale displays many many autistic traits, like a LOT. Muriel, despite not getting much screentime, displays a few autistic traits (like not liking a lot of sound and not understanding when Crowley is very clearly tricking them). And Crowley shows a lot of neurodivergent traits that could be read as ADHD. As well if you include the fact that all angels and all demons don't have a biological sex, Muriel uses they/them, and Crowley and Aziraphale has apparently been feminine and masculine throughout history. Infantilizing non-binary and neurodivergent people is a big problem and can be seen as very transphobic and especially very ableist, I myself am autistic and non-binary so it does really annoys me when this happens, we are treated as kids for things we can't control.
I have seen characters get infantalized too much in this fandom, it's bad. Like a genuine problem in the fandom.
Tldr: don't infantilize demons and angels
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Galaxy Destoryer ; a WIP (Re)Intro
(New and Improved!)
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Genre and Setting
high sci-fi, space cowboys, outerspace millions of miles away from earth, about 50 years after the earth overheated and became uninhabitable, humans have integrated into the rest of the galaxy/universe for the most part, the repurposed battle cruiser- the FU-BS.
Playlist
POV
Third person limited, multiple characters
Status and Length
Drafting, less than 1k ; 3 books or a duology, we'll see
Tropes and Themes
Found family but they're a bunch of criminals and fugitives, cyberpunk, found family but they're all dumbasses, androids and cyborgs, space pirates and bounty hunters, spaceships and laser guns, The Mandalorian and Guardians of the Galaxy vibes, a little to no romance, humans are space orcs, a bunch of criminals accidentally adopt a baby, accidental and reluctant heroes, the "we fucking hate each other but a paycheck is a paycheck" to found family pipeline, main characters avoiding the main plot like the plague ; questioning and exploring morality, choosing between two evils, forgiveness and finding people you can trust, a little touch of space politics but it's mostly background noise, the dangers and harm of capitalism in the background but the characters avoid the main plot so it's background noise as well
Warnings and Rating
sci-fi typical violence, some mental health issues and trauma, possible torture and blood, angst galore ; Teen and Up
Main Characters
Corie (she/her)
The bounty hunter cyborg who just wants some peace and quiet, really good pilot
AroAce, mostly Earthling with brown skin and curly blue hair
lost eye, arm and leg due to bounty hunting business
1000% done with this shit and just wants to be left alone
Knox (he/him)
the self proclaimed team leader (no one listens to him), and former PIE mercenary
The token straight that's on thin ice, full Dlakoonian with purple skin and pointed ears
the oldest crewmate and surrogate tired uncle/chaperone who did no ask to supervise these kids and a baby
NOVA (she/her)
the grumpy android with faulty wiring and wanted smuggler
Bisexual, epileptic (due to faulty wiring), silvery chrome skin with blue lights in the cracks between plates
easily pissed off and fite you
Astra (she/her)
the thief and lovable rogue flying by the seat of her pants who is reckless and cocky and smug af, resident comedic relief
Lesbian, full Earthling and black with very short curly hair, plus sized
rivals with NOVA, they are constantly butting heads just kiss already
Pandora (he/she)
the former PIE scientist who has done questionable projects and now sells his work to the highest bidder
Cis Female, Part time Wheelchair user, autistic and adhd (medium masking), tourettic, full Earthling with brown skin and hair, Muslim (coded?) and wears a hijab
scientist and talented bio chemist, sunshine personality
Aries (xey/xem)
the engineer and mechanic, private contractor and former Black Hole
Agender, half Earthling with brown skin and half Alltinian with pointy ears, social anxiety
Really bad at opening up and being vulnerable and communicating xer needs
Hades (he/him)
the baby, a literal infant, adopted by a bunch of criminals
full Froshether with blue skin and horns
telekinesis powers
mischievous little shit
Antagonists
P.I.E. - Peace Intergalactic Expansion. the micromanaging intergalactic republic government. they used to be better, but in the last couple of decades they were slowly taken over by their "all life and everything must be perfect and pristine" science division.
Black Holes - space pirates that are the extreme opposite of PIE. they claim to be the resistance and rebellion against PIE, but they're not much better in the long run, hurting whoever they need to without remorse to get what they want.
Plot
A bunch of criminals are hired for a job by PIE, the Peace Intergalactic Expansion of the galaxy. The job is top secret, and all they know is that PIE wants them to retrive some kind of weapon- but if they do follow through, their records will be clean and they'll get a thick paycheck. The rag tag team thrown together for this one job hate each other, but they figure a paycheck is a paycheck and decide to tolerate it for this one job.
But as they continue on their job, the crew starts to think something is off. The Black Holes offer them something huge to bring them the weapon instead, and no one even knows what this weapon actually is. Meanwhile PIE is breathing down their necks, reminding them constantly what will happen if they fail or try to betray the huge organization.
Then they find the weapon, and it seems that maybe no one should have the weapon. And that weapon isn't really a weapon at all.
Extra Stuff
Specifics on Corie's cyborg parts: her right eye, right arm from the elbow down, and her left leg from the knee down are prothstetics. She lost her leg to a job that went sideways, and her eye and arm to pirates attempting to exact their revenge on her.
^^^ The arm does have a laser gun attachment and her eye does have a little interface with aiming and targeting
NOVA's model was originally going to be a new line of military androids for PIE, but Nova- the first prototype of her line- failed all her diagnostic tests and they had her scrapped and abandoned the project
The ship they use and fly around in is an old military battle cruiser- called the Fifty-five Utility Battle Starcruiser, or the FU-BS. (I'm think i'm hilarious)
Hades's powers are mainly telekenisis, but he will straight up catch on fire or freeze everything within five feet of him if he's angry and throws a big enough tantrum
Astra and Nova have a rivals to lovers romance that's mainly in the background and for comedy purposes
Pandora and Aries have a kind of cute and fluffy friends-to-lovers romance happening in the background too
Dlakoonians and Alltinians are two alien specis in my worldbuilding that I'm currently working on developing
I took a ton of inspiration for this WIP from the Mandalorian and Guardians of the Galaxy. PIE is based on the Xandarians in GotG and The Black Holes are based on the Ravagers. The plot is inspired by the first two seasons of the Mandalorian (with my own fun additions and twists of course!)
Knox used to be named Lannie but that name was too close to a character from another WIP so I changed it
Memes for your viewing pleasure:
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ghostietea · 3 years
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Furuba autistic headcanons
With it being April, or autism acceptance month, I wanted to finally drop my list of characters from Fruits Basket that I read as autistic! This is based a lot on my own experience, as well as that of other autistics I know or have seen talk online. I hope some people can get something out of it, feel free to tell me what you think 😊, though please refrain from getting upset that I would dare suggest your fave is autistic.
Hanajima
Before becoming able to better control her powers, she would be constantly overwhelmed by the things she heard to the point that she couldn't even really go out in public. This reads a lot like sensory overload.
Constantly picked on in school because other kids thought she was weird. Eventually reclaimed this weirdness and turned it into a whole persona.
Seems to talk usually in a relatively flat tone.
Had trouble socializing with no friends outside her family until middleschool.
Has a very funny, dry sense of humor that I find very similar to a bunch of autistics I know, including myself.
Hatsuharu
Listen. You have seen the funky little man, you have seen the way he talks, the way he acts around others. He is, and I mean this in the best way, a weirdo. I do not know how you could look at him and see a neurotypical.
Once again, like Hana, Haru is funny in a way that feels very autistic.
Very flat, dry, tone delivery. Sometimes just Says Things that make everyone else go huh??? Suuuuper blunt. Doesn't emote facially a lot of the time.
When this man sees a social norm he doesn't get he WILL NOT follow it. Pierces his ears just because his hair got flak, defends Momiji wearing whatever he wants because sometimes y'know the social rules are just dumb and don't make sense. Especially dress codes.
Sometimes says things not befitting the current tone of the situation.
Represses (masks) a lot of his emotions, leading to outbursts that seem uncharacteristic.
His main childhood trauma revolves around adults branding him as "dumb" and ridiculing him. Haru, however, is super smart and wise!! Just in an offbeat way that not everyone may get.
Machi
Reads as very "flat" emotionally to the point that others would call her boring. Also has a flat vocal delivery.
Relies on specific habits or ways of doing things or else she gets super upset (her hatred of imperfection.
Has trauma surrounding adults completely misconstruing her intentions and thinking she's doing something malicious when she's not.
Generally behaves in a way that's hard for others to understand, one of her formative moments with Yuki was him saying he wanted to "see how the world looks" through her eyes.
Once again, trouble socializing.
Tries super hard to please her parents but in the end they still see her as somehow inherently "defective."
Listen. A lot of this one and the last two are mostly vibes, hard to verbally define. You just have to look at them and trust me.
Tohru
Displays behavior very reminiscent of masking throughout the story, a huge part of her arc is about how she hides a lot of herself and has a very controlled persona. I think it would fit very well if she had other autistic behaviors that she suppresed also it helps explain why she is relatively socially adept, it's learned behavior to make people like her more.
Yes she is very good at saying what others need to hear, but especially early on she is pretty blatantly imitating her mother's words. She only gets better at getting through on a more personal level later on (see her with Rin and Akito v. early series Tohru). She does this by relating her own experiences, a very autistic way of showing empathy that often gets us written off as self centered. The way she relays things her mom said could also be seen as this, and she even worries at a few points that she's being insensitive for going on about things like that.
While emotionally repressed she is hyper empathetic and feels other's emotions so strongly she cries.
Her speech patterns are all imitated from her father and she often copies verbal things from others (see Ritchan-san). Noted in canon that people think her way of speaking is slightly off/not befitting of someone her age. Additionally, her father was polite more sarcastically, while she plays it straight and sometimes takes things very literally or fails to get the message, indicating trouble with reading tone. Has numerous strange verbal tics, including saying parts of her internal monologue out loud without context.
Very expressive with her hands including waving them around and flapping them up and down.
Does have a bit of trouble with accidental insensitivity in social interactions, like how she constantly fixates on her mom and realizes that might bug the Sohma.
Has trouble paying attention in school since it doesn't have much to do with her interests
Her only friend until she was a middle schooler was her mom
Has a pretty unique outlook on things compared to others, people seem to think she's pretty eccentric. There's always a "this girl is nice but in an odd way, she's our weirdo and we love her" vibe.
Sometimes has an "inappropriate" emotional response to situations
Has a lot of trouble with change, similar to Akito. Which oh, look at the time, next hc coming up.
But first, a disclaimer. It is cathartic for me to read Akito this way, but with that reading comes the baggage that she would, mayhaps, be showing a more negative side of things... It doesn't bother me since it's a joint hc with other characters and she does develop at the end but yeah, general villain hc baggage. This is in no way me trying to excuse her being The Worst being autistic doesn't absolve you of being able to do wrong . Also, a lot of these points can and do have other explanations related to her upbringing, but things can be for more than 1 reason. With that said, she really strongly comes off as autistic to me, in a way that's sorta hard to explain. I wrote a lot more for her than the other, both because I felt I needed more to convince people and that this headcanon was more sensitive and I needed to be careful in my explanation. Also hey! She's my special interest within a special interest.
Akito
Shown to have a dislike of summer weather due to heat and brightness, could be due to sensory issues in tandem with sickness things. Also covers her ears when people raise their voice sometimes which is partially her trying to shut down opposition but also 🤔 can read a different way. She'd also avoids louder Juuni like Ritsu and Ayame because she can't handle them.
Wears pretty much the same outfit every single day. Said outfit is also pretty loose fitting.
Always seen sitting in a pretty unconventional way. Evidence:
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Of course this is also the isolated in a cult thing and there is a level of her purposefully doing things to intimidate but: doesn't follow a lot of social rules (overly touchy with strangers, legit doesn't get that what she's doing is wrong, ect.). Repeatedly confused when people indicate she should act otherwise without explanation. Has a breakdown when this comes to a head and approximately says that "they" shouldn't expect her to know "common sense" if "they" never explained it to her, that the way that she was was her "common sense."
Often talks in a way uncharacteristic of her age when shown as a child in a more faux mature/pretentious way. Might just be the translation and idk how to explain it but her speech as an adult also seems off from what one would normally use in conversation. Additionally, when she tries to fake being friendly in her intro chapter, it comes of as extremely stiff and unconvincing.
Generally displays behavior that could be thought of as childish as an adult, but a lot of this behavior could also read as autistic (covering ears, emotional deregulation and meltdowns, ignorance of basic social norms, ect.). It's also important to note that she knows that this behavior makes her seem younger and more helpless to the older zodiac and uses it as a manipulation tactic. Has issues regarding people treating her like a child or only hanging out with her because of pity. While she does weaponize it, we can tell that this grates on her, as seen with her finally blowing up on Kureno, which is partially triggered by the maids saying some sorta infantalizing stuff about her. Irl, a lot of autistic adults and teens struggle with being infantalized for our behavior generally or treated as little babies that can do no wrong. Even in fandom, you see people doing stuff like jumping to call autistic adult characters, such as Entrapta from Shera, "minor coded." It is also common for us to have at least one bad experience with someone hanging around us out of pity. This is something that really gave me a similar feeling in Akito's arc. She's not a baby and she can understand and do better if she is given the chance to learn and break from all the freaky cult indoctrination she's been subjected to instead of just being constantly enabled. In the end, a lot of her growth is represented by her showing that she is capable of changing and being independent.
Shows particular difficulty with socialization, often sits by herself spacing out at social events. A lot of her fear is rooted in the fact that she doesn't know how normal relationships work, becoming overly reliant on the curse because she doesn't know how to make friends.
Clings desperately onto the notion of being "special" and in some way superior to others to be worthy and to make up for perceived inherent "flaws." It's the nd gifted kid burnout vibes for me.
Easily bothered by things that don't bother others. Feels emotions very strongly to the point of getting physically ill and has bad emotional regulation.
Relatively good at reading others in an analytical sense (though has more trouble when it comes to seeing how they feel about her since she's wildly delusional) but brings up her observations in a very cold, detached way and hurts people even on the rare occasion she didn't mean to. Has extreme trouble connecting to others and understanding their point of view. This makes her come off as pretty unempathetic even though that might not fully be the case. Also thinks that people like Momiji are trying to look down on her when they try to empathize with her. A lot of why Tohru can get through to her is that she manages to convince Akito that she's not condescending by relating shared traits and experiences. As I said earlier, autistics often empathize by sharing their own experiences with someone, and I know I often have an easier time confiding in other autistics because of a fear of being seen as lesser by those that don't understand me. I think the connection between these charachters and the way that Tohru manages to reach Akito like that while others couldn't makes a lot of sense through an autistic lense!
Additionally, when Akito herself gets around to trying to help others instead of just projecting trauma, she tries to reach out to the old maid by relating back to her own experiences. This however, doesn't work.
Has "cold" emotional reactions sometimes even to things that do make her upset. For example, how sort of calm and detached she acted after her father's death can make her seem uncaring. However, we know that this event did mess her up a lot and she is still (poorly) dealing with a lot of grief from the death of her father years later.
Copies mannerisms from others, the most blatant example is with Ren, who she directly parrots lines from as a child to Yuki.
Partly just her posturing, but gestures a lot with her hands when she talks. Also seen several times clutching her hands in her hair.
Deals extremely poorly with the idea of things changing to the point that it is a driving force of the story.
Does not understand when people tease her.
Ect. Ect. Ect. Listen, I could go on for ages but just trust me, the mean gremlin lady is autistic.
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transdreemurr · 3 years
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Making a formal intro post because my bio was clunky.
I’m Ender, I use it/its pronouns, plus some neos (voi/void/voidself). Utdr has been my special interest since I was 12, when it came out.
Please dni if:
-you’re any kind of bigot
-you misgender the nonbinary characters (Frisk, Chara, Kris, Seam, etc.)
-you are “proship” or “anti-anti”
-you infantalize autistic-coded characters (specifically Papyrus)
-you demonize mentally ill characters (mostly Chara and Kris)
I love talking about utdr so feel free to message me or reply to my posts :] plus just ask if you need me to tag anything
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evilkitten3 · 5 years
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Stop making fun of mentally ill and neurodivergent-coded characters
I'm seriously sick of people treating neurodivergent characters as a joke. If you make jokes about a character who's implied to have something that you have (like myself with, say, Kaminari from BNHA), that's one thing.
But if you don't have the condition in question, you don't get to treat it like a game. I'm gonna address the BNHA fandom directly right now, because A) I see it there more than anywhere else, and B) the rampant ableism (and abuse apologism) in both the fandom and the canon material is the reason I dropped out of the fandom and may not ever fully return.
Iida, Asui, Midoriya, and Kouda are all coded as having ASD (for anyone who doesn't know, that's Autism Spectrum Disorder). At first, Midoriya was handled decently, but eventually his autistic traits began to be treated more and more as jokes. Iida's autistic traits were treated as jokes from the start. Asui and Kouda both dodged this for the most part- Kouda because he doesn't have many appearances and Asui likely because the coding was unintentional and remains unnoticed.
Fandom-wise, all four are infantalized to an absurd extent. Iida, Kouda, and Midoriya are all treated as "innocent cinnamon rolls uwu must protect" despite being legitimately powerful. Iida and Midoriya are both very fast and pretty damn strong, and Kouda can control animals. He controllers enough bugs to completely encase Mic's leg up to the knee, which seemed to take very little effort on his part. Asui mostly avoids the infantilization, but I've definitely seen her get hit with it too.
Todoroki is frequently reduced to existing solely to spite his dad and/or to be in love with Midoriya (often in a way that insults the both of them).
By far, however, the worst of this is directed at Bakugou. In both the fandom and the manga/anime, his severe mental health issues are reduced to a joke. His anger is generally treated as "lol there goes our resident anger boi rip in pieces" rather than "hey this kid is so well known to be incapable of accepting help that the person who's known him the longest has a legitimate concern that he would refuse to accept help from a life-or-death situation unless it was from one specific person".
I don't think that gets entirely attention. Almost every character who mentions it agrees that Bakugou would be offended by anyone trying to help him. This is a teenager who's been kidnapped by criminals, the majority of whom are known murderers. In the rare instances that the fandom acknowledges this, it's usually for the sake of a "cute romantic scene with Kirishima".
Jokes are also frequently made about "Bakugou admitted we're his friends lmao", which is incredibly counterproductive. With someone like Bakugou, at attempt at self-improvement getting met with mockery would encourage him to refrain from repeated attempts. People also tend to think that his friends using his superiority complex to get him to do what they want is funny. It's not. It's manipulative as hell. And if they're doing it, they aren't good friends.
Even when people do try to deal with his issues, it can get pretty bad. I remember one fic that had him transferred to the gen ed department to learn to be more humble or something. Interesting idea, but Bakugou's mental health has warped his view of the world to the point where doing something like that could lead to an increase in self-destructive behavior.
I know this has gotten kinda long, so I'll just add one more thing about Bakugou before wrapping this up:
He needs help. He needs help that U.A. and his parents are either unable or unwilling to give him, and it's incredibly unlikely that he'll be able to heal - from the damage inflicted on him by others as well as the damage he's caused himself - without being removed from his current environment altogether. I personally recommend wilderness therapy. It isn't fun, but it sure as shit helped me out.
Anyway, tldr: neurodivergent people aren't jokes. Don't treat us like it.
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