#comphet stancy

[allyricas]

a loosely inspired imagine me & you steddie/ronance au

where steve and nancy are high school sweethearts finally tying the knot because well, it's expected. it's what you are supposed to do. get married, have some children, etc. it feels a little like the end of the world and less like the start of the rest of their lives, but hey, they'll take that secret to the grave, even from each other.

eddie and his band are playing the reception, and he's playing the music for the ceremony. he's witty, tall, handsome, a bit alternative with tattoos and has the loveliest long, curly brown hair. though, it's his big, brown doe eyes that first entrance steve.

robin is steve's best man in the wedding and best friend in life, but has been in love with nancy for years. she would never make a move on her best friend's girl, but watching nancy marry steve is heart wrenching. she wants them to be happy, but neither seem very happy at all. she hates this.

nancy and steve are comfortable and misinterpreting friendship love for romantic love. sure, there's never been a spark but that's not a real thing. they care about each other and that's enough, at least they think it is.

so when steve and eddie first lock eyes as the bridesmaids start their march down the aisle, steve has to force himself to look away from eddie. he can barely keep his gaze on nancy as the soft piano plays. she looks lovely as always, but he can tell she's uncomfortable. her mother picked out the dress.

he wants to run, he wants to stop this whole thing, has a moment of pure panic because what is he doing? why are he and nancy going through with this? why didn't he tell his parents to fuck off when they insisted he needed to ask nancy to marry him.

but their families and friends, and the money, the expectations. what was he to say, "sorry, i just saw the hottest guy i've ever seen and i think i fell in love at first glance so cancel the wedding"...yeah that is not real life. and he's not...that way. he can't be. he's marrying nancy afterall.

steve doesn't know that nancy has the same panic. that she threw up several times before finally managing to put on the wedding dress she'd have never chosen for herself. that she was tempted to make a break for it, runaway bride julia roberts style. that she can't imagine a life with steve because there's no lust, no passion, no romance- just a familial, soft affection that doesn't feel strong enough to build the life they both deserve. she loves him so much, but she's never been in love with him the way she is supposed to be.

he wants a family. she wants her career. she wants soft curves instead of hard lines and no, she has to stop thinking that way.

she sees robin and yearns for something she thinks she can never have. she knows it isn't fair to make steve into her unwitting beard, but stopping the ceremony and admitting the why of it all would be too much. if only she knew steve has the same fear. if only they'd communicated honestly for one moment in their entire sham of a relationship.

steve who foolishly thinks he can befriend eddie and that will be enough. of course, they fall madly in love. the spark he thought a fairytale thing only in movies is real. it's fireworks and butterflies and can't eat-can't sleep every single cliche possible because all he can think about his edde's eyes when he smiles or the way he smells and the way their hands fit together perfectly.

nancy and robin who spend more and more time together, but refuse to come to terms with how they feel for one another. nancy will not think about the soft brush of robin's hand against hers as they walk through the park. she will not think of robin's adorable rambling and how she squeaks whenever she's surprised or nervous. she will ignore the way she wants to lean and press her lips against hers.

cue a lot of yearning and angst and misunderstandings, but one hell of a gay happily ever after when steve and nancy eventually annul their marriage and come out of the closet.

steve who has to promise both robin and nancy that he wants them to be happy, that he's sees them together and it brings him joy not pain. nancy who has to promise steve that she's not mad he fell in love with someone else, because eddie is steve's soulmate. it's so clear that they are meant for one another. she is the one to finally admit out loud that she and steve were never in love, but that it doesn't mean they love each other any less!

just imagine the potential angst of closeted steve AND nancy both trying to fight the truth about themselves and their feelings. and then how guilty robin and eddie would feel thinking they are just a pair of homewreckers.

someone should write it.

[steviewashere]

I love secretly closeted Steve Harrington. I love when he knows himself, knows the truth of his identity, knows that how he views men isn't a fluke. I love secretly closeted Steve Harrington who dates girls and has sex with girls to protect himself, to keep an image, to try and earn an ounce of recognition and respect from his dad.

I love secretly closeted Steve Harrington who recognizes Robin's bravery when she came out. But he keeps his secret to himself for a while longer. Who joins in on the joke of just how bad he is at pulling girls. Who upholds an image as just that, an image.

A secretly closeted Steve who gets frustrated at the projection painted onto him. Steve Harrington the ladies' man. Steve Harrington who gets the girl. Steve Harrington who can get into bed with any girl he wants. He's frustrated and he hates all the assumptions, but he can't shake them, can't explain why—not without revealing himself. But he knows who he is. Knows the type of person he wants.

I love when he's nervous, but still proud. Who, slowly and surely, cements his identity within himself—so it transcends knowledge, it's deeply intertwined within. He goes to Robin first, because he feels as though that's a good first baby step—because he knows for certain that Robin will accept him. And, with minor hesitance, goes to Nancy. And with a long conversation, some tissues, and gentle smiles passed back and forth, Nancy then understands, too.

The last person is Eddie. Which is harder. Which frustrates him further. Because Eddie won't stop asking him about women, won't stop categorizing him as straight, some god among men. He just wants to be Steve Harrington. Not Steve Harrington. Not ladies man, Steve Harrington.

Steve Harrington who likes men. Only men. Who compensated for years just so he can uphold a safe life for himself, who was threatened constantly (though not directly at him) by what his dad would say about those queers, who covered for himself the only way he knew how.

And though it takes longer, some deep wounds and harsh words about how he isn't experimenting, that his sexuality can't just be decided for him, that he has a right to explore—even if the exploration never amounted to anything—Steve is able to get Eddie's trust. Eventually, again slowly, get Eddie's hand intertwined with his. And even later after that, a shy kiss; his first kiss with a man that aids in solidifying the last, hairline fracture in his whole.

Steve Harrington who is gay and learns over time to be proud of that. But also, closeted Steve Harrington who goes on the journey to get to the end result—I love him so so so much and he means so much to me. And now I need to write him and make this version a reality.

[byler-alarmist]

(stamping my feet) IT WAS NEVER ABOUT STANCY VS. JANCY!!!!! THAT (stamping) WAS (more stamping) A SWERVE!!!!

The Steve and Nancy flirting in season four becomes much more interesting when put in the context of steddie and ronance I think. Because it's less backsliding their character development and more about 2 kids in the 80's falling back on the closest het relationship available when confronted with queer feeling and queer people. It's less taking an ambitious independant woman and sticking her with the stagnant nuclear family man because the script says so, and it's more about the triangulation of desire. In this essay I will-

[justiceforplutoo]

platonic stancy and they’re both comphet and nancy comes out to steve first and he just starts sobbing and she’s like wtf man and he’s like bitch me too is this anything

[theysherobinbuckley]

stancy is the biggest case of comphet the entire midwest has ever seen. your honor those teenagers are homosexuals

[brionysea]

Steve is emotionally intelligent. It's just a lot of times it gets mixed up in comphet and 80s ideas of flirting/misogyny. Steve thinks to be happy he needs a girlfriend and a paying job. And that he actually gives good relationship advice when in actuality he was popular in high school for his looks, sports and money. Steve doesn't know that when he's really truly happy is when he's hanging out with the kids and his genuine friendship with Robin( headcanon Robin was his first ever real friend). Want I want for Steve is to get a dog, maybe work as a teacher or be a foster parent. I like Stancy but it wouldn't be healthy for them. I rather they stand on there on to feet and be friends.

I mean steve's first friend was dustin but yeah

I will be so honest I don't like st*ncy at all I only like their scenes because I'm a little hater and enjoy the love loses agenda. like yessss crash and burn feed my haterism. kill all romance ever

but yes everything else you said, exactly. nancy seems to want a relationship but she also NEEDS to not be held back the way her mother was because that girl is GOING PLACES so really she just needs someone who respects that and goes along with what she wants (👀 jonathan following her around and doing whatever she wants every season) not someone who wants her to birth their 12 million children and travel the country in a van

[dwobbitfromtheshire]

I probably talked about this before, but there are some new thoughts, too. I'm just thinking about Stancy and Jargyle going on double dates after working things out when thoughts occurred:

I love Steve and Nancy because Steve made an effort into becoming a better version of himself because he wanted to and because he loved Nancy. Jonathan, sure, he loves Nancy, but he never really put in the effort like Steve did, and I think it's because he was constantly worried about his family. (And honestly, I can also see Jonathan being comphet gay but maybe that's just me.) Then Argyle comes along, and he finally relaxes, finally becoming a normal teenager because Argyle doesn't push him, but gently shows him that he can. And he made up that bullshit excuse about Nancy giving up everything (it sounded too stupid not to be a lie) because he was lying to himself about who he wanted to be with. I just hope he finally takes responsibility for that camera incident, I just feel like I can finally like him if he just owns up to it and realized he crossed a boundary. But God, I could really get behind Jargyle.

[the-lark-ascending69]

@sylvanas-and-the-diamonds i love how korrasami has become a noun in the ronance community 😂 the parallels are just too fitting. But yessss Robin "rebound" for Nancy sounds amazing. Like she's so empty and sad that she doesn't even think about the possibility of people speculating she'd been The Other Woman since before stancy broke up.

Steve is a romantic and so he takes Robin on dates and takes the time to learn about her interests. He knows she would appreciate having an intellectual conversation about Frankeintein or Dante's Inferno over going for milkshakes and partying, so he actually tries to read a book for once in his life. I wouldn't be surprised if he fell in love with her for real (who wouldn't?), and Robin is so deep in comphet that she comes to believe her happiness at being loved is the same as loving. She kisses him and enjoys it not because she loves him, but because she's happy someone wants to kiss her, and because she doesn't feel alone anymore. It's hard for her to realize she's not actually in love because the more she comes to know him, the more she likes Steve, and she never gets like... apathetic about seeing him. She doesn't have anyone else to hang out with, anyway. Not only is he her boyfriend, he's also her only friend. And when she looks at him and feels fondness, she doesn't have a frame of reference to realize this is the way sisters often feel fondness for her brothers. She thinks she's in love.

They could have easily gone like this forever. The biggest telltale sign that something was off was the fact they never had sex. They tried a few times, but Robin always had some kind of trouble. Either her body had no reaction she and didn't want to continue because it would hurt her, or she got uncomfortable, or she felt bored and tired. A few times, she freaked out and snapped in the middle of kissing to push him away. She doesn't like making out, either. A simple peck she can enjoy, because she likes people being sweet and tender with her. Making out is different. She dissociates for most of it, thinking about some of her books or movies while she lets Steve take the lead, and feels nothing for the most part. She doesn't think this is odd. As far as she knew, most girls felt a little bit bored when they were intimate with their boyfriends anyway. She prefers to overanalyze and exaggerate any surge of affection she feels towards him in their best moments to reafirm that she really is in love, but that will never make her forget the way she locked herself up in the bathroom to cry the first time they tried to be intimate, when she laid down perfectly still and then all of a sudden felt so gross her eyes filled with tears. She feels guilty about it even though Steve tells her there's no problem. He assumes she might have had some bad experience she doesn't want to talk about, but Robin never went through anything like that. She just feels... wrong.

This goes on and on until she comes face to face with Nancy. She knew her, of course - she felt things about Nancy that she was sure couldn't be normal - and maybe they end up locked in close quarters as a result of one of Nancy's investigations, suddenly hiding from someone, and she feels Nancy's chest against her back and her breath on the back of her neck and she's tries to think about Steve so hard because if she's not actively trying to convince herself she's heterosexual, she would be forced to admit the heat in her belly, the blush in her ears and neck and the tingling in her breasts was the feeling that was missing when she was with her boyfriend.

After this, it's hard to look at Steve in the eye. She smiles at him and kisses him but even the fondness feels... muted. It's almost like she's... bored? She's not bored of being with him - he's her best friend and she loves him. But it's like living in a world of black and white your whole life and suddenly at 17 catching a glimpse of red for the first time. How could you expect someone to be forever content with grey after that?

And it's so confusing because she always heard girls complaining about her boyfriends and she thought dating a boy would always be naturally an unfulfilling struggle but she never had such complaints about Steve, so she actually assumed their relationship was far better than average, actually. Is she really going to complain now? Because - what, because she didn't think his body was that great? It was fine, it was aesthetically pleasing. A regular conventionally attractive body. But you fall in love with a person's soul and mind, not their body, so the fact that he didn't drive her crazy physically must've been a sign she was simply more intellectually oriented in love, just like most other areas of her life. Plus, boys were objectively less beautiful than girls, there was no question there. It didn't mean anything if she found girls more attractive because everyone knew girls were more attractive. What she's feeling is nothing out of the ordinary: lack of physical interest in her boyfriend, a feeling of insatisfaction, aknowledgment that women were more beautiful than men... surely if she liked... if she weren't normal, she would feel something and that something would be different or distinct or odd, but she didn't. She didn't feel different. The way her body reacted with Nancy felt so... normal. Like it was the most natural thing in the world.

See, she is normal. She's still normal. There's just something really, really wrong with her.

And psst! I would LOVE to read your one-shot once it's ready 👀 it sounds so interesting already!

We talk a lot about comphet Nancy but what about comphet Robin. 15yo comphet Robin who somehow ends up dating Steve and suffering through every second of it because she's not ready to admit she's in love with Nancy Wheeler.

[adhd-winterfalcon]

okay let me explain my gay steve harrington thoughts to you guys

steve is desperate for any type of love/affection. he has a hard time trying to differentiate between romantic and platonic feelings (ex. robin but i’ll come back to that). his only “friends,” tommy and carol, were only around him for status/only knew the side of him he showed everyone else. he’s not truly known by anyone until robin.

in HS he’s popular and attractive, therefore expected to date/hook up with girls, so he does because it’s what he’s been told is “normal” (this is why he has a reputation for sleeping around in junior year, he kinda overdoes it because he’s just doing what he thinks he is supposed to)

then nancy wheeler comes along, who doesn’t care that he’s popular, doesn’t treat him differently from anyone else and it’s just… it’s refreshing to be treated like a regular human being. he actually enjoys hanging out her and cares about the things she does (unlike with tommy and carol, who he doesn’t really like being around).

he genuinely wants to befriend her, but has never felt like that with someone else before so he just assumes it’s romantic attraction (nancy is “the first girl he loved,” in reality she’s the first person he ever actually wanted to be friends with, not just his parents friends kid or someone that his parents approved of)

so they date (also nancy is a lesbian with comphet and was in love with barb). season 2 happens etc etc

in s3 he no longer in has his highschool popularity status, and is wrongfooted and awkward, not sure of his place in society. so he attempts to go back to what he knows: flirting with girls. which does not work out at all. but since he has a reputation as a playboy, he continues to flirt anyway (because who is he without that?)

then along comes robin, the second person steve has ever wanted to befriend, and he likes her even more than nancy because she’s snarky and funny and they’re a surprisingly good team. mistaking platonic feelings for romantic feelings part two occurs.

but then robin tells him about tammy thompson and his mind kind of shuts down, because all he can think is “it’s okay to like someone of the same gender? it must be, because robin is awesome and she does so, maybe… maybe it’s okay if i do too?” and then he realizes robin is kind of freaking out and he swallows thickly, chewing on his lip before just asking “if you can like girls, does that mean i can like boys?”

and robin freezes, extremely confused and not at all expecting that reaction but soon realizes he’s being serious and nods. “yeah, dingus. you can like boys. and girls too if you want.”

steve’s lip wobbles and his eyes are glossy when he whispers, “is it okay if i only like boys?”

robin inhales sharply and decides that she would die for this man in a heartbeat, and that she’s never letting him go. “yeah, it’s okay.”

she pulls him into a hug and they both cry, steve apologizing through tears for ruining her coming out and robin just giggling wetly and telling him to shut up. eventually steve explains it all to robin, and she tells him about how she realized she wasn’t straight.

later, steve will tell her “i think you’re my best friend,” and she‘ll smile and ruffle his hair and just say, “yeah, me too.”

btw i heavily imply that he’s autistic throughout this, so if u notice that u get a forehead kiss

[unfinishedslurs]

do u love the colors of the comphet

When it’s over, when Henry Creel is dead and dust and they’ve emerged battered and triumphant. When she and Jonathan have ended things. When there is no more fighting to be done, she and Steve give it another go. 

She knows he’s going to ask the same way she knew in ‘83. There’s no waiting this time, no need to wonder if Jonathan might want her too. They gave it the old college try (He lied to her. He was lying to her for months, and she knew something was wrong before that. She thought they could work it out. She’s so fucking sick of lying to herself being lied to). 

He asks with wide, hopeful eyes, running a nervous hand through his hair. He doesn’t have anything to be nervous about. She made up her mind before he even asked. 

She can do it right this time. She can love this boy the way she wants to. The way he wants her to. They’ve both grown in the years since. She’s going to do this right. 

That’s the mantra she keeps in her head when he picks her up and spins her. I can do this. 

She can’t do this. 

It’s somehow the same and different from when they dated the first time. They’re going through the same motions, but there’s something lacking. They’re both older, more jaded. They’re not kids anymore, and it shows. 

They rarely kiss. He hesitates now in a way he didn’t before. Sex is something they don’t bring up at all. Eddie makes a crude joke once, something or other about what Nancy is like in bed, and she and Steve make eye contact. There’s something there, something like mutual understanding, before Robin smacks Eddie upside the back of the head and the moment breaks. She keeps thinking about it long after. Whatever it is that they shared, they don’t talk about it. 

Maybe they’re lying to themselves, both of them. Puppets going through the motions, too stubborn to admit they’re play acting as real people. Still, she can’t give this up. She can’t make the same mistakes all over again. 

Robin corners her two months into the relationship. Part of Nancy is surprised it took her this long. The rest of her is angry she brings it up at all. 

Saying she’s cornered might be doing her a disservice. They’re having a sleepover, painting their nails and talking about boys. Everything a girl is supposed to do. Except Robin is awkward and fumbling, and every name she brings up sounds like a question. Nancy only has Steve to talk about, and barely talks about him at all. 

Finally Robin sighs and puts down the nail polish. “I feel like this subject is making us both miserable,” she declares. “I don’t want to talk about boys, I was just doing it because I thought that’s what you’re supposed to do at girl sleepovers. I haven’t actually been to a sleepover since I was in middle school and the other girls decided I was weird, but I’m pretty sure the point is to have fun. This is not fun. This is agonizing. We should talk about something else.”

“Steve isn’t making me miserable!” She snaps, before realizing she sounds way too defensive. 

Robin peers at her. “Yeah, see, that’s not what I said. That’s not even a little bit close to what I said. Maybe we should talk about this instead. What’s the deal with you and Steve?”

“What deal? There’s no deal.” She turns around and rummages through the nail polish selection. Robin doesn’t exactly have a variety. Her options are red, dark red, and black. She chooses the brighter red with the absent thought that the black would look good on Robin, with her long fingers and dark eyeliner. Then she banishes that thought away. 

“There’s definitely some kind of deal.”

“There isn’t.”

“Nance.” 

She can’t help but turn around then, drawn in by the tone of her voice. There’s a glass wall inside of her, and someone is pounding on it, trying to get out. She wants Robin to see it. She wants someone to see behind the glass. There’s something in her trying to get out. 

“Nancy,” she says again, eyes searing into her soul, “are you happy?”

She smiles, fake and fixed on her face. The glass stays firmly in place.  “Of course I am,” she replies. “Why wouldn’t I be?”

The next time Robin wants to hang out, she’s busy with college preparations. 

It’s not just Robin. She thinks everyone can tell something’s wrong with her. Eddie gives her these looks every time she and Steve are in front of him, like he’s putting together a puzzle. Her mom keeps trying to talk to her. Jonathan keeps trying to talk to her. 

They know, she thinks wildly, every time. She doesn’t know what it is they know. She doesn’t want to find out. 

She avoids them all. 

When she and Steve go to dinner, the waitress captivates her. 

Long, dark hair in braids. Long fingers tapping against the notepad. Dark eyes in a dark face. She’s always loved brown eyes. Nancy has never been one to be jealous of other girls (lie, lie, lie), but suddenly heat floods her body. She wants to be as gorgeous as this woman. She wants her full lips, popping gum. She wants the woman’s swaying hips as she turns and leaves their table. She wants— she wants—

She tears her gaze away to find Steve already looking at her. 

The heat is dosed by the ice that fills her veins. All her senses go on high alert until she realizes he’s actually staring past her. She turns around to see the bartender. He’s handsome, she thinks, tall with tan skin and brown hair carefully styled. He’s talking to a customer, teeth shining as he laughs. 

When she turns back, Steve has firmly fixed his eyes on her. She could almost believe he’d never been staring at the bartender at all. 

There’s something there. Something just out of reach, something she could put a finger out and touch if she were braver. She doesn’t. There’s no gun in her hand here, no adrenaline to keep her going after it all falls apart. 

“What did your dumb boyfriend do this time?” Mike demands, storming in her room. Nancy has half a mind to yell at him to knock first before she registers his words. 

“Steve is- Steve is fine,” she says, startled. “He’s great, actually. Nothings wrong.“

“Then why are you so miserable all the time?” Mike accuses. 

“I am not miserable!”

“You are! You both are, and neither of you will tell anyone what’s wrong, or why-“

“I don’t know why!” She shrieks. Mike falls silent, eyes wide, and Nancy suddenly realizes she’s crying. 

“I don’t know why,” she repeats. “Everything is fine. He’s like, the perfect fucking boyfriend. It’s me, I’m the problem. There’s something wrong with me. There’s a beautiful boy who loves me, and I’m- I’m trying. I’m trying so hard to love him back, but I can’t. I can’t. There’s something wrong with me.” She’s desperate now, wiping away tears as she curls into a ball. She feels pathetic, crying in front of her little brother. She’s the oldest, she should be keeping it together, she shouldn’t let him see her like this. But she can’t help it. There’s something in her screaming to get out. 

Mike, with all the grace and bewilderment of a newborn deer, gingerly pats her shoulder. 

“Have you…talked to Steve about it?”

She gives him a cutting look. It’s probably not as effective as she wants it to be, with her red eyes and tear streaked face. Mike holds his hands up. 

“I’m just saying! He’s your boyfriend, you should talk to him. And if you don’t want him to be your boyfriend, you should really talk to him.”

“I want him to be my boyfriend, I just need to get past whatever this is—“

“Nancy,” Mike says. “It’s not just you. He’s miserable too.”

“Because of me. I just need to—“

Mike shakes his head. “I don’t think it is. If it were because of you, he’d be acting different. More…kicked puppy, or whatever. He’s just being weird,  and won’t tell anyone why. Dustin said he asked Robin, and she doesn’t even know.”

Nancy doesn’t have anything to say to that. 

“I think you need to talk to him,” he says again. “I think you need to talk to each other.”

“When did you get so smart?” She asks, instead of crying again. 

“I’ve always been smarter than you.”

She kicks him for that blatant lie.

“Are we holding onto a dead thing?” She asks out loud. 

He rolls over and looks at her. She’s worried she’s hurt his feelings, broken his heart again, killed any chance they have at a relationship, romantic or not. Then he snorts. 

“Robin got to you too, huh?” He asks, flopping back onto his back to look up at the sky. 

“Mike, actually.”

“Mike? That shithead? What does he know about relationship problems?”

“Are we having relationship problems?”

“I mean,” he says, wry twist to his mouth, “we haven’t had any arguments.”

“Nope.”

“Or general drama.”

“That might be debatable.”

“There’s no need to spice up our sex life.”

She snacks him for that one, and he laughs. She props herself up to look him in the eye. His face is more open than she’s seen it the entire time they’ve been dating. 

“I think you have to be in a relationship to have ‘relationship problems,’” she tells him. “Are we in a relationship?”

He visibly considers this. “I mean, I asked you out, and you said yes. And we never broke up.”

“We haven’t kissed in at least two weeks.”

“Did you want to?”

She takes a moment to think about it. “Not really,” she admits, and his face splits into a grin. 

“Not that you’re not still wonderful, Nancy Wheeler,” he says, teeth shining, “but I don’t think I want to kiss you either. Isn’t that weird?”

When they dated in high school, it was like he couldn’t stand being away from her. He spent every moment he could kissing her, wherever he could. Sometimes it felt almost like a performance he put on for the people around them, lifting her up and spinning her just so everyone would know how in love they were. It was stifling at times, feeling like something to prove. Still, it was how he was, so in love he could burst with it. 

Now, she wonders if it was always a performance. Maybe they’ve both been on a stage, and neither of them noticed the lights blinding them until now. 

“It is a little weird,” she says finally.

“Right?!”

He holds out a hand to shake, the other one firmly in his pocket. God, she wishes she could love him. “Good go, eh Wheeler?” He asks, smile crooked and shaky. 

She snorts. “We made ourselves and everyone around us miserable,” she points out. But she takes his hand. 

[hopefulobjectmiracle]

Nancy is textbook lesbian tho.. like the comphet and everything adds up

hmm....i very strongly disagree

[dontcallmeeds]

I saw a twitter thread that was giving reasons for Nancy Wheeler being a lesbian and I gotta say, I agree. At least that Nancy is NOT straight. The way she interacts with Barb….dude, do you know how many of the stairs conversations (from season one before Barb disappears) I’ve had with friends who were secretly seeing me??? The whole “this isn’t you” after Nancy lies about where she’s going and the way she reacts with her facial expressions…..bro, they’ve kissed before. This has been said a million times here and otherwise since season one.

But with the level of grief and guilt she goes through in season two, I’m seeing that right now in myself as someone who just had one of their best friends pass away suddenly who was also an ex. The whole “bullshit” Stancy Halloween fight could be chalked up to grief and liking Jonathan sure, but I think it’s way more than that. I think she’s calling everything bullshit including herself because she lost the one person who saw her, someone she loved more than just platonically.

Then season three is mostly just her fighting with Jonathan if you really think about it, because she wants to be more than just a sandwich girl at Hawkins Post. Someone Barb would be proud of. We only see her really happy with Jonathan in season three when they wake up late and she sneaks out and the soft moment they have at the end when he’s leaving. Other than that they’re either fighting with each other or fighting monsters. Robin calls her a “priss,” but before Steve she was just kind of a…nerd. Like Robin. Maybe they ran in the same circles? We know they don’t know each other in person, at least Nancy doesn’t know HER.

FOLLOW ME HERE: What if Robin knew Barb?? What if Barb confided in her that she had feelings for Nancy, but that Nancy was dating Steve and we know how hard Robin goes for her friends so she just made this assumption that Nancy is a priss????

Then season four of course, we see Nancy not going to California. She’s frustrated that Jonathan wouldn’t be coming and she stayed for the basketball game for her front page news right?? Why didn’t she take another flight hmmm??? And we think she’s jealous of Robin, but what if she was jealous of Steve??? Because we don’t really have indication that Steve and Nancy have spent much time around each other since summer ‘85…but Robin and Nancy go to school together. Robin is in band which means they’re in the same room *hypothetically* for the important games that Nancy needs to document. We don’t know how many games Steve went to besides the one, he could’ve been working on some of those games or on dates. So ipso facto, Robin and Nancy have (probably) been in the same room more than Steve and Nancy….why would she suddenly be jealous of ROBIN???

And you can see her genuinely enjoying being around Robin after her monologue at the psych ward when she was being “annoyed” and “on edge” with her before that. I don’t see that as “oh well she started considering her a friend” I think she had a crush, she was on edge because she had lost Barb and didn’t want to feel that way about another girl. But the monologue relaxes her because she realized Robin is just as unhinged as she is, but in a different way. Because Nancy Wheeler is IMPULSIVE. She’s smarter than hell, but she is so careless with her own safety.

Also every time the Bylers shippers contrast the Wheeler siblings really they’re just giving us Nancy Wheeler is gay proof too. Because look at their similar behaviors. They fight and bicker in a way that says “i know what you are, NO I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE”

NOT VERY STRAIGHT IF YOU ASK ME.

Also, while I now understand my attraction to men is because I was a queer trans dude the entire time, I used to think it was comphet. But everything I feel about men is different than the way Nancy feels about men. It feels forced, it feels like she thinks she HAS to have a boyfriend and HAS to force a real connection with them. COMP. MOTHERFUCKIN. HET.

In conclusion, for the love of god, let Nancy Wheeler kiss girls. Natalia wants it, the fans want it. Give us a SMOOCH.

[lesbiannancytruther]

MY stranger things unpopular opinions <3

ok nobody asked but these r my stranger things unpopular opinions, inspired by a tweet where people just shared super common and well accepted opinions instead of actual controversy lol

also half of these r gonna be ronance centered because they’re literally all i think about

- first and foremost, nancy is a lesbian. i think so many of her actions and struggles can absolutely be traced back to comphet and repression and i feel like people want to cling onto her romance with steve and jonathan as a way to justify her fondness for them, when i think she can just care about them because they’re her friends and they’re trauma bonded(tm)

- while i like steve and robin being besties as much as everyone else i feel like people overestimate how close they really are in canon. of course they’re best friends but they really aren’t overly dependent on each other like people interpret them to be. they’re best friends but they also function really well on their own.

- though there’s no denying that will has feelings for mike i sincerely doubt that those romantic feelings are reciprocated and i think people are way too confident that byler is gonna be canon

- elmax is miles better than almost every canon AND fanon relationship in the show (i’d argue jopper and lumax (and biased opinion ronance) are the only genuine contenders)

- while i make a habit of being overly critical of men i think people forget that the ��grumpy dad” trope with hopper that they like so much comes with him being a total dick sometimes lol

- both jonathan AND steve were weird as fuck in season 1. y’all r having a mid-off when u argue jancy vs. stancy

- and by mid-off i mean stancy wasn’t as bad as y’all act like it was and jancy is not as good as y’all act like it is

- y’all infantilize the FUCK out of robin buckley and im SICK OF IT!! she’s incredibly smart and strong and u people act like she’s stupid/a pushover/a nervous little baby

- in general i think the ronance fandom likes to apply tropes to nancy and robin in a way that isn’t accurate to their characters. its a very common and predictable pattern and i think thats why a lot of fan works feel out of character (an example to this is people applying grumpy x sunshine to nancy and robin respectively and it just doesn’t fit)

- karen is not a good mother. i think everyone can agree karen is weird as fuck for the billy thing, but i see a lot of people argue for karen that she’s really grown as a mother but i’m not seeing it. i don’t doubt that she loves her kids but there’s a reason mike and nancy are Like That

- y��all made up a ton of steve’s personality traits. i’m all good with interpreting his character a certain way but if the reason you hate nancy wheeler is because she unknowingly poked at insecurity of steve’s that u made up i have 0 respect for ur opinions lol

- and on that note steve is pretty badly written. i don’t think his path to “redemption” was bad but he’s so far from anything special that the love he gets from the fandom astounds me

- luckily this opinion isnt as unpopular anymore but steddie was figment of fandom imagination and the fact that it rotted y’all’s brains so bad to the point where you convinced yourself eddie munson was actually really important is just so...

- if you make fruity four content without nancy because you don’t think she’s interesting enough you’re a loser

- byclair is literally SOOOO much better than byler the fact that y’all aren’t going to war for them is upsetting

- this better not be an unpopular opinion but ive been seeing more of it recently: if you think joyce byers is a bad mother block me rn

- any hate that eleven, max, and nancy get is almost ALWAYS rooted in misogyny

ok thats it i probably have more but i cant think of any </3

[moonflowerdamie]

i’m super bored so i’m gonna rate stranger things ships! buckle in folks, let’s get into it😎

•mileven—4/10•

it’s ok ig. i’m not like a hater of it? but it’s definitely not a great ship. no hate to mileven stans, it’s just not for me. i liked them in season 1 and 2, but it got toxic and weird in season 3 and season 4 solidified my disdain for it. i think mike needs to do some self-reflection (maybe discover a few things about himself—michael wheeler i know what you are) and i think el needs to become her own person outside of her relationship with him. i wholeheartedly support the el/mike exes-to-besties agenda though!

•jopper—8/10•

they’re so cute oml, i shipped them since season 1 and their build-up and eventual payoff was immaculate! i loved their early season tension and their kiss in season 4 was so so good. they fit so well together. they don’t get 10/10 only because a) i LOVED bob and joyce in season 2 more than life and will forever mourn that joyous man and b) i kinda loved the whole single grumpy father figure/lonely teenage daughter dynamic el and hop had.

•lumax—10/10•

this ship. this goddamn ship. the hurt/comfort. the angst. the teasing. the SOULMATISM of it all. seriously, these two are meant for each other. lucas is max’s safe place, her happiest memory and her favourite escape. max is lucas’ sunshine, his wake-up call, his reason to try. i didn’t use to love them, in fact it was only since season 4 that i’ve been such an avid shipper of them but god. they really are the softest. ‘i like talking with you, mad max’ and ‘i’m still here’ and ‘lucas!’ and the notes and the snowball and holy shit i love them sm.

•byler—7/10•

this is with the exception of season 2 byler, which gets 10/10 (‘crazy together’ oh my god). apart from that, i get the hype for it, but i also want the best for my lil ball of fruity sunshine will byers. he is my baby boy and i will protect him. and i just think that mike needs to do some growing up before he’s ready to be with will. also, i’ve never loved mike as a character (again, with the exception of s1 and 2 mike, he was a sweetie) and i think he’d end up hurting will if they got together at this point. in the future, if mike can prove that he’s matured and grown into himself, i will wholeheartedly support this relationship.

•jancy—6/10•

again, it’s ok. i did love them in season 2, but season 1 jonathan was a creep, and season 3 jancy just didn’t do it for me. jonny boy has grown on me over the seasons, but i think everybody moved on from him taking nakey nakey pictures of nancy without her knowledge wayyyyy too quickly. also, they just want different things in life and that’s ok! i do prefer them over stancy, but if i’m honest, i am absolutely a lesbian nancy supporter. the comphet on that woman is insane. so again, like mileven, i am a nancy/jonathan exes-to-besties advocate!

•stancy—4/10•

they were not it in season 4. like, it made me angry that the duffers tried to push it on us again. i did sort of like them in the early seasons, but steve was a jerk and nancy needed to grow into herself and they went their separate ways for the better. steve became a good person and nancy became the strong, independent badass woman we all know and love. i love them as friends and co-babysitters of the kids, but not as lovers. their arcs wouldn’t have happened without their break-up, and they’re both so different as people that getting back together would’ve been like going backwards. steve’s speech about kids in the van made me physically ill with how a) out of character it was and b) how the duffer brothers tried to make it seem like pushing out 6 kids and living the suburban american dream (read: nightmare) was something nancy would want, when she’s spent 3 seasons displaying an obvious disgust for that kind of life. if they get back together in s5 i’ll be throwing something at the tv.

•elmax—9/10•

they. are. so. cute. i love this ship sm, it’s so wholesome and soft. it just works as well—el allows max to explore her own kindness, her own vulnerability, her own ability to care, and max allows el to explore her own identity, what makes her happy, how to be independent. season 3 elmax was superior, but that scene in s4 where they reunite is utterly breathtaking—‘if you touch her again, i will kill you again’ protective gfs!! honestly, if i wasn’t such a lumax shipper i’d be all in for them. as it is, my motto is currently this: max has two hands! one for el and one for lucas :)

•madwheeler—1/10•

no. just no. these two actively dislike each other lmao. max is perpetually annoyed by mike’s existence and mike thinks max is like, the worst. they couldn’t even do enemies to lovers because max would steal mike’s gf in a heartbeat and would probably rather eat glass than kiss michael wheeler. they only get 1 point because finn and sadie have a sweet friendship.

•eddsy—6/10•

they would’ve been cute tbh. and since it’s been discovered that chrissy is actually 18 instead of 16, it’s not a weird one either. when i thought she was 16 i was put off, but now i’m sort of neutral on it. that scene in the woods was very sweet and her and eddie totally could have had the whole popular cheerleader gf/metalhead nerdy bf thing going on. however, it was only one episode they were in together and the ship was never one i was like ‘oh my god i love this’ so. i will say that grace van dien does not deserve the hate she gets for shipping them, especially when joseph quinn gets none of it for the same thing. other than that, it’s not massively awesome but it’s pretty cute.

•willel—0/10•

if you ship this, seek help. they are siblings.

•henclair—4/10•

they could be cute ig, but i just see them as besties. add in the fact that lumax is one of my fav ships and dustin and suzie are super cute and this ship is just sort of meh to me.

•duzie—7/10•

very sweet. nerd gf/geek bf. ‘never-ending story’ was a cultural reset and they’re both icons for it. honestly, not a ship that rocked my world but they are super cute so. 7 points.

•rockie—7/10•

at this point i just want robin to have a gf. just let maya hawke kiss a woman on this show. at first, i was super excited for these 2, but then i saw the way miss buckley looked at nancy wheeler and i was like ‘vickie who?’ (i see you duffer brothers). also, vickie’s whole character felt like a diversity box tick. like she had no originality whatsoever, they just made her a carbon copy of robin which pissed me off. however, i see the potential. i would not be unhappy if they had a fleshed out, well-developed relationship in s5. especially since vickie, a bi girl, is being played by amybeth mcnulty, a bi queen.

•steddie—5/10•

ok. so. i don’t hate this ship. i really don’t. in fact, i’ve written them in some of my ronance fics. i think they could’ve been cute. however. they hype for these two was so overdone and the way people treated them in comparison to more fleshed out, developed dynamics like ronance was really annoying. especially because the majority of steddie shippers are straight women who then deny that ronance could ever happen. the ship itself was ok, but if i’m being realistic, they didn’t have that many scenes together and the fandom of this ship ruined it for me. the fact that the majority of fics in the ronance tag on ao3 are steddie with background ronance really grinds my fucking gears, and the amount of people who are fetishising steddie because they’re both attractive men is just so fucking irritating. overall, not a bad ship but a fairly toxic fandom (not all of you, of course—chill steddie shippers are cool, but some of y’all, jesus christ)

•harringrove—1/10•

awful, awful ship. no. don’t ship steve with the racist abuser just because they’re both semi-attractive white men. only gets a point because of joe keery’s fruity (not assuming his sexuality, just joking about his actions) behaviour towards dacre montgomery.

•stobin—0/10•

robin buckley. is. a LESBIAN. she’s GAY. SHE LIKES WOMEN AND WOMEN ONLY. if you ship these two romantically, i can only assume you’re a homophobic asshole who deserves sand thrown in their eyes. unapologetically, if you ship steve and robin as a couple, i hope you slip in the shower, motherfucker.

•stonathan—2/10•

i mean, it’s not the worst??? but again, i think it’s people shipping them just because they’re two white men who talked to each other. like, did y’all forget that steve literally called jonathan a slur? and that they tried to beat the shit out of each other? i don’t hate it the way i hate harringrove, but it’s so so unlikely and i’d be so puzzled if it ever was even hinted at.

•murray/alexei—6/10•

these two would’ve been cute. and i do think murray is gay, and probably did have a little thing for alexei. i don’t know about alexei but they were definitely cute friends. and i was so betrayed and upset by his death. a fairly good ship, no complaints from me.

and finally…

•ronance—1284028/10😌🥹😍•

the best ship. for nancy, for robin, for the show, for ever. they mean the world to me. they are the world to me. if i had one wish, it would be for ronance to be canon. they make me so fucking emotional because i want what they have. as someone who so heavily relates to robin (chaotic lonely lesbian who is desperate for love but feels she may never be loved as much as she loves, possibly autistic and feels destined to be an annoyance to those around her) i want a nancy. i want to be loved in my entirety. and those two, they get each other. sure, robin irritated nancy at first and they didn’t get on, but they grew. nancy, who’s never had anyone listen to her and believe in her with such intent, finds robin, who is more than willing to, who thinks ‘nancy’s a genius’ and would follow her anywhere. robin, who thinks all she can ever be is helpless and annoying, finds nancy, who trusts her with her life, who picks her and picks her and keeps picking her, who thinks she’s just as smart as she actually is, who understands her needs and her vulnerabilities and validates her, tells her ‘it’s ok’ and ‘you got this’. these two work in a way no other ship does and they are so undeniably soulmates. they need each other. they want each other. they deserve each other. there’s a reason i write about them so much—holy shit honestly i love them so fucking much.

anyways, that got a lot longer than i thought it would! i hope you guys enjoyed my ramblings haha :)

[steveiscaitiesbabygirl]

Fanfic Ideas ⁃ Teen polycule that flashes between the boys steve, Eddie, Jonathan, argyle) all getting high and the girls (Nancy, Robin, vickie) having a nice classy calm date ⁃ Platonic! Mike and max fic where he visits her in the hospital and apologizes for being an ass. Bonus points if max starts showing signs of consciousness during or after ⁃ Stoncy. Steve and Jonathan think they’re only in this relationship cuz they both love nancy. Nancy goes away on a trip leaving them alone. They go on a date just the two of them and realize maybe they aren’t in it just for Nancy ⁃ STONY GEEK CHARMING AU ⁃ Steve and Tony are new to a relationship and realize how co-dependent they r with their best friends. Tony will come home some nights to see that Bucky is in their bed because he had a nightmare. Steve witnesses Tony following Rhodey into the bathroom to continue a conversation etc etc ⁃ Open relationship stancy. Nancy has the feeling that steve may also be into men. She gently tries to coaxe it out of him/make him realize. When she does, she encourages him to explore and go on some dates with men (Eddie, Jonathan, whoever just NOT BILLY). Mayhaps Nancy starts to realize some things about herself 👀 ⁃ Steve and Nancy have the bad habit of sleeping together whenever something goes wrong in their current relationship (Eddie and Jonathan). But it’s obvious this is not a healthy stancy dynamic, they just simply go back for comfort but then always end the night getting into a fight. No happy ending <\3 ⁃ Au where chrissy is the one who comforts Jonathan when will goes missing. No upside down tho, maybe will just gets lost in the woods, but he’s found obvs ⁃ Stonathan geek charming au. Think about it ⁃ Nancy realizes she may not be as straight as she thought. Or at all. Fic that deals with Nancy’s comphet and her coming to terms with being a lesbian. Ronance optional ⁃ 5 times Eddie watched steve kiss people platonically. And then the 1 time steve kissed Eddie non-platonically <3 ⁃ Post-s4, argyle thinks him and Jonathan have been dating. Nancy goes “no I’m dating Jonathan” which leads into argyle going “wait so we’re both dating Jonathan? R u my girlfriend?”. The answer is yes. They become a throuple. Just fluff :) ⁃ Eddie asks out steve. Steve gushes to Robin about how romantic it was an tells her how it went down in his POV. We get flashes of how it actually went down, it was awful; steve is just a simp. At the end we flash to Eddie who is sitting on his bed rethinking all of his life choices. ⁃ What if Nancy and Chrissy were dating pre-season 4? Nancy is now forced to do some detective work about her girlfriend. Could either go the romantic route with ronance or the horror route if Eddie actually did kill her. OR BOTH ⁃ 5 times Eddie had cuteness aggression (chomping on Steve’s arm, “ur so cute I’m gonna eat ur spine”) +1 time steve did

I don’t write, but if anyone who does sees this and takes a liking to it PLS feel free to write one of these. I will owe u my first born child

[magicalgirlsasuke]

even if ur not a lesbian nancy truther you must notice how all stancy vs jancy ‘ship wars’ or whatev, always boil down to undermining steve and jonathan —arguments for which one is less worse for her. the discussion is never centred on who nancy likes best because if u even begin to look in depth at nancy’s behaviour towards either of them it is so so clear she doesn’t like both of them.

the thing is that she genuinely enjoys steve’s company but isn’t attracted to him (when he sneaks into her room and she’s so firm about still studying and while he clearly makes it fun for her she treats kissing him as something she has to do to spend time with him, when she’s shown to have a good time with him at the pool which is immediately followed up by her being so unfazed after having sex with him even before she finds out about barb), and she doesn’t feel close to jonathan unless the world is ending or she’s dealing with her trauma (their shared trauma thing is definitely a strong bond but it’s not a good basis for a romantic relationship and we’re shown this in s3 when they’re at odds for the entire start of the season and this is then ‘solved’ by them nearly dying and remembering what it’s like to fight for each other. if this had been followed up by them building on their relationship past the adrenaline rush then okay maybe but s4 again reinforces the fact that they’re just not compatible in normal life).

nancy dating steve a month after jonathan turns her down when she still has ‘feelings’ for jonathan and doesn’t actually like steve rlly suggests she feels the need to be in a relationship at all times not caring who with (lmao the comphet of it all). also also the fact that jonathan and barb have the same outsider unimpressed with the popular kids personality and nancy latches onto that in jonathan whenever things go to shit is sooo significant but that’s a convo for another day.

stancy is like ‘you make everyday boring life special but you refuse to see me instead of ur idealised/villainised version of me and i’m so tired of telling you who i am’, and jancy is like ‘i will fight back to back with you against creatures beyond our comprehension with close to zero odds of survival but i’m not going to respect ur interests and i’m fighting back a sigh whenever u talk’.