#coroebus

[firinnie]

Oracle twins of Troy!

In general, I have a lot of golden thoughts so it's nice if you read them! As I love Cassandra, I am also fascinated by her brother Helenus.

In my Au Priam and Hecuba sent Helenus (then called Scamanderus) to Phrygia. This is a special place for two reasons, because one of the suitors of Cassandra, Coroebus (who gave his life in the Trojan war when he tried to protect her!) came from there! What is even more interesting? His father, King Mygdon of Phrygia … fought in his young adulthood on the same side as Priam of Troy in war! Wow, they like friends, this is a very cool information right??? I think Troy would like to keep relationships with city of Phygia by sending their sons to school would be very interesting.

And again, for two reasons. First of all, Coroebus would fall in love with kind & intelligent Cassandra from the stories which her brother told and not only in her appearance as other suitcases did. And besides, I want relationship of ths poor twins to be very complicated. Like, they love each other but Helenus suddenly returns, his beloved sister behaves as if she lost her mind and there is a war in front of their house because a stranger who turned out to be their lost brother (Paris) kidnapped someone's wife (Helen).

Additionally, I have an idea that Apollo has cursed Cassandra with "no one who NOW is behind the walls of city will believe you in terrible visions that I will send." What does it mean? This means that the curse that was imposed on her is still here … but Helenus (and even Coroebus) are not under its effect, because they were no longer in Troy at a time when Cassandra refused love to God. This means that Helenus may not believe his twin of his own will :)

At my arts - twins with colors (ugh, why is he so like my Odysseus? I need to do something with old king tho), a scene from the Iliad in which after the death of Paris, Helen is forced to marry his brother … and Helenus for some reason also fought for her hand? Boy, you were supposed to be the intelligent one. And next is the scene in which Cass is after vision, all scratched and in her own blood/ Helenus wants to disintegrate the wounds so he pours some vinegar onto a cloth. He has no idea what happened to his sister, he has no idea what to believe but he really wants to help her. And the last art, i.e. young twins who interested wrong God. BTW … I used yellow and blue for them because they are complementary colors. Cass has yellow, which unfortunately shows her attracting to Apollo but she wears some blue. Helenus has blue besides because it is a color that will show coldness and distance. He publicly does not take Cassandra seriously but privately apologizes for it and says that he is too weak for standing on her side. He doesn't lie, she believes him and understands it too, but this hurts a lot. In general, it is difficult to love someone when divine forces on the road and Helenus did not pass the test. Coroebus do! But we'll talk about him later. For now I will say that he and Hel do not have a good relationship.

[dilfaeneas]

It's that time of year again boys!

Cassandra and Her husband Coroebus to start the month right

[sarafangirlart]

Coroebus and Othryoneus didn’t die trying to protect Cassandra and her city for y’all to ship her with the man who destroyed her city and enslaved her and her family.

“Ajax the lesser did rape Cassandra but Agamemnon didn’t bc he spoke positively of her and loved her!” I’m going to hold your hand as I say this, slaves can’t consent.

[palamedespoetry]

🔆 o lord unjust, with your thick vapors and foul light, with your sinister sky and its black contagion!

[gingermintpepper]

Fuck it, I'm not gonna pretend anymore.

The rawest, most metal 'Apollo as a father' story is the one where he dooms a whole town to a child-killing plague after sheepdogs tear apart his son because his lover, Psamathe, had an abusive father, Krotopus, who would've never let her keep the child.

In a bid to keep the child safe, Psamathe exposes the babe (that is, leaves him outside in the wild without any protection; think Atalanta) and shepherds take him in and raise him as their own until his untimely Actaeon-esque death. Psamathe, hearing that her son died in such a gruesome manner, is near inconsolable and her grief cues her father onto the fact that Linus (the boy's name) was Psamathe's child all along whereupon her father sentences her to death for harlotry and lying about Apollo.

Apollo, evidently, was not very fond of that.

The alternative version of this story is even more metal because it's Krotopus' own dogs who find and tear apart Linus as an infant leading to Apollo immediately sending Poine to personally take babies from their mothers and kill them until the people made amends. Argonian Coroebus rose up and slew Poine to free the people of her curse but Apollo simply retaliated by personally plaguing Argo then and refusing to lift the curse until Linus was properly buried and his spirit was soothed.

In both versions, the dead is eventually quelled but in the version where Krotopus kills Psamathe, the plague rages on until the king himself gets an oracle where he's ordered to leave Argo forever and found a new city to live out the rest of his days. Coroebus, in his version, had to travel to Delphi to find out what his punishment would be for slaying Poine.

[likethexan]

BkII:402-437 Cassandra is Taken, Virgil's Aeneid

"Every man in her life failed Cassandra of Troy" Never ever speak ill of Coroebus of Phrygia

[dilutedh2so4]

“Cassandra’s true love was Agamemnon”

Coroebus, Othryoneus, and literally anyone else who didn’t participate in the rape and murder of her city:

[cabin7quotesandtweets]

Twitter Profiles Part 3: Gods Edition

Apollo, Asclepius, Aristaeus, Hymenaios, Ialemus, Chariklo, Cephisso, Apollonis, Borysthenis, and the The Samothrakian Korybantes

Note: A lot of Apollo's godly children are disputed. Like, so many. So, I used my own judgement to choose who to pick. After the profiles I will give a brief description of everyone's domains, plus their other parent, with some extra notes from me.

Domains

Άπόλλων (Apollo): the sun, light, music, archery, healing, disease, poetry, protection over young (specifically boys), civilization, reasoning and logic, knowledge, and herding

Άσκληπιός (Asclepius): Son of Coronis and Apollo; medicine

Άρισταῖος (Aristaeus): son of Cyrene and Apollo, older brother to Idmon; bee-keeping, cheese-making, olive-growing/olive oil manufacturing, herding, hunting, countryside and pastoral places

Note: I haven't made Idmon a profile, as he isn't a god. He was a seer and an original Argonaut and died on the trip. Maybe I will though, who knows?

Ύμεναιος (Hymenaios), also called Hymen: son of one of the Muses (though disputed which one, usually Terpsichore, Urania, or Calliope) and Apollo; weddings, bridal hymns

Note: other sources claim his parentage is Magnes and Clio, or Dionysus and Aphrodite

Ίάλεμος (Ialemus), disputed sources say he's an epithet of Linus: son of Calliope and Apollo; lamentation, funeral songs

Note: Ialemus' existance is disputed, as to whether he is a epithet of Linus or a full personificafion of funeral songs. According to some sources in Argive, Linus was the child of Apollo and Psamathe and was killed as a baby by rabid dogs. In revenge, Apollo sent a poine to kill the Argive children, and it wasn't until Coroebus killed the poine and founded a dog killing holiday called Arnis that Linus and Psamathe were worshipped. Other sources in Thebes have his parents being Urania and Amphimarus, and was killed by Apollo for claiming to be his equal. Lastly, he was described as Heracles' music teacher, who slew him in a fit of rage while being reprimanded. Take of that what you will.

Χαρικλώ (Chariklo): daughter of Apollo, no second parent named; wife of Chiron, foster-mother to the heroes whom Chiron mentored

Note: Chariklo is also said in a few sources that her father is Perses or Oceanus, but the comedic value of Apollo beings Chiron's father-in-law is too great to pass up. And most sourses agree she's Apollo's kid. Fun fact though, the planet Chariklo from the Centaur planets is named after her, and another one is named Chiron.

Κηφισω (Cephisso), also called Nete: daughter of Apollo, sister to Apollonis and Borysthenis; one of the Muses Apollonides

Note: the Muses Apollonides are not to be confused with the nine muses of the arts, or the Titan Muses.

Άπολλωνις (Apollonis), also called Mete): daughter of Apollo, and sister to Cephisso and Borysthenis; one of the Muses Apollonides

Βορυσθηνίς (Borysthenis), also called Hypate: daughter of Apollo, sister to Cephisso and Apollonis; one of the Muses Apollonides

Note: Fun fact, their second names: Nete, Mete, and Hypate are after the lowest, middle, and high notes of the lyre

Κυρβαντες (The Samothrakian Korybantes): sons of Apollo and Thalia; a seven group of rustic daimons who presided over the Samorhrakian mysteries, and were attendants to the Mother of the Gods

Note: Wow, the myths on these guys are so disputed they don't even have a set of names. Other parentage options include Zeus and Calliope, or Apollo and Rhetia. Some sourses say there's seven, with two others who are children of Hephaestus (the Cabeiri) to make a group of nine, some say there's nine total. They're named after an orgiastic dance, that to be honest, I am fine not knowing anything about. Additionally, some say they're from Asia (west Asia or Anatolia, which makes up much of modern day Turkiye) and were attendants to Cybele, the Magna Mater of Anatolian mythology, but she is sometimes identified with Rhea when she was adopted by Greece, hence why I made them attendents of Rhea. Some sources also associate them with Leto.

[ilions-end]

in the thebaid adrastus tells a story about coroebus defeating apollo's monster pornê and i in my blue-eyed innocence thought "oh i've never heard about pornê before! let me search that up real quick"

these are not the search results i wanted

[firinnie]

Cassandra deserved better

So I'm currently obsessed with reading about Troy, and oh my gods. Cassanda, my beloved. Let's talk about her.

She had a twin named Helenus whonis one of the few children of Priam and Hecuba who survived Troy and after.

We have a version in which she and her brother were licked on their ears by a snake in the temple of Apollo (em.. yeah) and that's why they got a gift of prophecy from him.

BUT I prefer the more common version, Apollo fell in love with beautiful Cassandra and she promised to give herself to him but when he gave only her this gift, Cassandra refused love for the god. Because of this Apollo cursed her, from that day on no one believed her words.

In this version she was teaching her twin how to see and others generally believed his predictions… and they could have used it much better than they did lol. Like "Hey brother, tell them to set fire to that big wooden horse" or something.

Because of Apollo's curse she was considered mad to the point that insults were thrown at her and in some versions Priam ordered her to be locked up.

Cassandra was the first one to see the body of her brother Hector being brought back to Troy. She obviously predicted his death.

Likewise, she knew that "Paris" who "was the son of a shepherd" was actually her missing brother Alexander.

Generally, he has his own story BUT their mother had a dream that he would bring destruction to them all so they decided to get rid of him right after birth… and then Priam and Hecuba accepted him with open arms. Of course they did.

Apart from the fact that Cassandra defied Apollo and ripped the veil from Helen's head (because she knew that this girl would bring destruction), she threw herself at the Trojan Horse with a torch and an axe 'cause no one believed that there were soldiers inside. Unfortunately, she was stopped. Boo!

The horrible thing is that she knew exactly what fate awaited her too.

She was raped by Ajax the Lesser, in the temple of Athena, which, to put it mildly, did not please the goddess.

But more heartbreaking thing about this scene is that she had a suitor with whom she was probably supposed to be married. His name was Coroebus and during the attack on Troy he put on the armor of his enemies to blend in with the crowd and attack them. But when he saw that Cassandra was being hurt, he abandoned it and wanted to save her from Ajax but was killed, probably by Peneleos, Diomedes or Neoptolemus.

So after brutally losing her virginity and seeing the life of person she may have loved, she was taken away by Agamemnon. Cassandra them became his pallake (concubine) against her will of course. From the forced pregnancy she gave birth to twins, Teledamus and Pelops.

She predicted that if they returned to Mycenae they would be murdered but of course Agamemnon didn't listen.

His wife Clytemnestra (absolutely rightly) was furious with him and murdered guy on the spot. In a fit of rage she also murdered Cassandra, and Aegisthus, Clytemnestra's lover, killed both of baby boys. Technically we don't know if Cassandra saw her children die with her own eyes (or what feelings she had for them) but she certainly saw it in a vision. Can you imagine that?

In my opinion she is one of the most tragic figures of Troy, another victim of the gods too.

I also found information that she left a special chest with a mask of Dionysus face in it, Eurypylus got it as his share of the treasures from Troy and when he opened it he went crazy. Good job Cassandra.

[athamad]

Cassandra of Troy and Coroebus

ITS @classicstober BABY!!!!

So, l drew Casandra (ft. Coroebus)

[verdantlyviolet]

“I have deserved Your refusal of mercy. Well then: rattle Your quiver and pluck Your twanging bowstring — dispatch a noble soul to death! But, as I expire, dispel that heavy miasma which hangs, sicky and pale, over Argos.” Those who earn Her respect find that Chance plays fair: impressed by the victim, Leto’s ardent son stayed His hand; won over, He lavished an unwelcome boon on the hero — his life. The evil haze scattered and fled the sky while you, Coroebus, exonerated, left stunned Apollo’s threshold. And so, each year, our solemn feasts repeat the appointed rituals. The honour, renewed, cheers Phoebus’ shrines.

-Thebaid, Statius 1.655

[lesbiaeneas]

[In a moment we’re overwhelmed by weight of numbers: first Coroebus falls, by the armed goddess’s altar, at the hands of Peneleus: and Ripheus, who was the most just of all the Trojans and keenest for what was right (the gods’ vision was otherwise);]

wow it’s. it’s almost like piety maybe doesn’t count for much after all. wow it’s almost like the gods can get you anyway. almost like justice and mercy and piety maybe don’t stop the bad things from happening,

[umaspotocas]

Coroebus de Elis

Fim.

[likethexan]

AU where everything in the Epic Cycle is the same except Coroebus is the only soul on Earth who believes in Cassandra’s prophecies. Does it change anything? No. But it gives Cassandra reprieve in having one person believe in her.

[please-be-nice-im-sensitive]

Hmmmmm this is a toughie uhh

Casssndra and Coroebus

shuffling my library and assigning each love song to a ship I think fits it cause I’m bored