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[aspoonofsugar]

Hi! Do you have an analysis of hell greastest dad? Do you think it's worth analizing?

Hi!

Yes, I think Hell's Greatest Dad says a lot about Lucifer and Alastor. In particular, I would call it a "set-up song" in how it sets up:

Lucifer and Alastor's foiling

Lucifer's arc in the episode Dad Beat Dad

Alastor's arc (or at least it does some preparatory work)

Future plot-points through foreshadowing

In short, it isn't a song, which pays off immediately and it isn't the thematic heart of the episode (More Than Anything is). Still, it works very well by introducing ideas and conflicts that are postponed. Just like Lucifer and Alastor's rivalry isn't solved because of Mimzy's arrival:

Before I start analyzing the song, here are some metas I am gonna reference in this post:

Alastor and Lucifer's foiling

More Than Anything

An analysis of Alastor

An analysis of Lucifer

LUCIFER AND ALASTOR'S FOILING: DAD LIKE ME

Hell's Greatest Dad is inspired by Aladdin's Friend Like Me.

Some examples:

At the same time, it is a twist on the classic Disney song in two ways:

Lucifer is the geenie advertising his selling points, but Alastor, another geenie, comes and picks a fight (1/2)

The two geenies offer different and complementary things (2/2)

LUCIFER AND ALASTOR'S FOILING 1/2: LIGHT AND SHADOW

Lucifer and Alastor have opposite motifs:

Lucifer has a light motif, as his name means shining one and his powers use light

Alastor has a shadow motif, as his shadow moves on its own and his abilities employ shadows

This imagery ties with jungian symbolism. According to Jung:

The light is the persona, the mask one wears. It is the part of the self a person shows to others. It is what is out in the open and it is often an ideal image.

The shadow is what's hidden and repressed. It is the part of the self the person is unaware of or ignores. It is often what one dislikes about themselves.

Throughout Hell's Greatest Dad, Lucifer and Alastor's conflicting motifs clash with each other.

Lucifer is surrouned by gold (light):

Alastor has a purple background (shadow):

Similarly, Lucifer tries to put off a mask of perfection and power:

Lucifer: Haha! Looks like you could use some help From the Big Boss of Hell himself Check out Daddy's glowing reviews on Yelp Lucifer Muppets: "Five Stars!" "Flawless!" "Greater than great!"

Lucifer shows Charlie his stellar reviews on Yelp, but the ones praising him are Lucifer-puppets. So, the reviews are from puppet accounts and an attempt to look better than what he is.

Alastor instead fights back by using Lucifer's hidden fears and insecurities:

Alastor: I'm truly honored that we've built such a bond Charlie: Awww! Alastor: You're like the child that I wish that I had Lucifer: Uh, what? Alastor: I care for you just like a daughter I spawned Lucifer: Hold on now! Alastor: It's a little funny You could almost call me Dad!

Alastor weaponizes his bond with Charlie against Lucifer. He exagerates his own contributions to the Hazbin Hotel and the closeness he has with Charlie.

At its root, both Lucifer and Alastor don't want to admit they are projecting something on the other.

On the one hand Lucifer doesn't want to face his shortcomings as a father, which Alastor brings to the surface:

Alastor: Sadly, there are times a birth parent is a dud

On the other hand Alastor doesn't want to admit he is envious of Lucifer's powers and freedom (as this episode reveals, Alastor is on a leash):

Lucifer: Who needs a busboy now that you've got the chef?

None of the two can fully overwhelm the other because neither is ready to face himself. This is why the song ends with the unexpected arrival of another character:

t's me! It's me! Mimzzzyyyyyyy!

Mimzy's color scheme in the song is purple, like Alastor's. That is because she herself is linked to the shadow. Specifically, she is linked to Alastor's own shadow.

To what he is hiding, like his past:

Mimzy: Oh yeah, we go way back, ran in the same circles when we were alive. You know, this one used to frequent the club where I used to perform. He's the only one I knew who could pound whiskey like a sailor then keep up with me on the dance floor!

To what he is repressing, like his need for validation and attention:

Husk: You and I both know Mimzy only shows up when she needs something. That bitch is trouble, and who knows what kind of demon she fucked with to come running to you this time? Alastor: it's nothing I can't handle. Don't worry Husker. Who in their right mind would cross me?

In short, Lucifer tries to get Charlie's praise and is mocked for it by Alastor. Still, Alastor himself shares a bond with Mimzy, where he uses his powers to satisfy her requests in exchange of respect. So, Mimzy takes over Alastor's song like Alastor inserts himself in Lucifer's:

Alastor: Can you butt out of my song? Lucifer: Your song? I started this! Alastor: I'm singing it, I'll finish it! Lucifer: OH, YOU TACKY PIECE OF—! Mimzy: It's me! Yes, it's me! I know you were all waiting for me!

To summarize: Lucifer wears a persona> Alastor steps in as Lucifer's shadow > Mimzy arrives to play Alastor's shadow.

LUCIFER AND ALASTOR'S FOILING 2/2: WANT (HEART) VS NEED (MIND)

Lucifer shows all the impossible and fantastical things he could give Charlie. According to him, he could even twist reality for her:

I'll rig the game for you because I'm the ref! Champagne fountains Caviar mountains That's just to start!

Alastor reminds Charlie of all the down-to-earth things he does for her everyday:

Alastor: I'm your guy, your day-to-day Your chum, your steadfast hotelier Remember when I fixed that clog today?

Lucifer is the want, whereas Alastor is the need. The Devil is the ideal, while the Radio Demon is reality. Both their approaches are needed in Charlie's quest. She has to dream big, but she has also to be pragmatic and face reality.

She needs both mind (Alastor):

Alastor: They say when you're looking for assistance It's smart to pick the path of least resistance

And heart (Lucifer):

Lucifer: Others say that in your needy hour There's no substitute for pure angelic power!

So, Lucifer and Alastor can fight all they want, but in the end they are both needed by Charlie:

Lucifer is linked to dreams and ideals. He is the legacy Charlie inherits and the biological family she wants to re-connect with. Finally, he is Charlie's guide to Heaven, as he sets up her meeting with Sera and Emily.

Alastor is linked to fear and the unknown. He is the ally Charlie finds by herself and the found family she chooses. Finally, he is Charlie's guide in Hell, as he introduces her to Rosie and helps her inspire the cannibals.

LUCIFER: DEVIL AND ANGEL

Lucifer's arc in Dad Beat Dad can be summarized by juxtaposing Hell's Greatest Dad with More Than Anything.

Hell's Greatest Dad focuses on how Lucifer is the "Big Boss of Hell himself":

The lyrics reference pacts with the devils, pentagrams and sacrificial lambs:

Oh, with the punch of a pentagram I wap-bam-boom, alakazam Usually, I charge a sacrificial lamb But you get the family rate (thanks dad!)

And the music plays homage to The Devil Went Down to Georgia, with Lucifer playing the Devil's famous golden fiddle:

At the same time, Lucifer is very self-centered throughout the whole song:

He keeps self-duplicating, as he himself sings how great he is. This ties with the fact he is trying to project an image of power and confidence. He is hiding under a metaphorical rug all his insecurities and flaws. He is repressing the shadow.

However, Charlie doesn't really want the Devil. She needs the Fallen Angel. It is this side of Lucifer that comes out in More Than Anything:

This song explores Lucifer's past as an angel and the pain of his fall. All things he tries to hide out of shame. Still, he shares them with Charlie together with his most genuine self. By doing so, he acts selflessly and puts Charlie's needs and wishes above his own. He puts his daughter at the centre of the scene:

Lucifer shows Charlie his shadow, which actually makes his light stronger:

In Dad Beat Dad Lucifer goes from Hell's Greater Dad, where he is linked to fire and demonic symbolism, to More Than Anything, where he is characterized by light and angelic imagery. From want (Champagne fountains, caviar mountains) to need (I'll support your dream whatever lies in store).

ALASTOR: GROUNDWORK

Alastor's part in Hell's Greatest Dad is similar to his role in Stayed Gone. Both times, a powerful demon is singing his song, only for Alastor to come and throw off their groove. Still, there are some differences:

In Stayed Gone, Vox is focused on Alastor to the point his whole performance is a cry for attention from the Radio Demon. Alastor in fact has central stage, as Vox sings about him and to him. In Hell's Greatest Dad instead Alastor is an afterthought. Lucifer is singing to Charlie with some occasional backhanded insult to the Radio Demon. Basically, in the first song Vox is looking for attention. In the second, it is Alastor himself, who wants to be looked at:

In Stayed Gone Alastor easily takes control of the song and by the end he dominates it. In Hell's Greatest Dad Alastor fails to do the same. Not only Lucifer puts up a fight, but by the end Mimzy arrives and steals the stage. This difference mirrors Alastor's spiral throughout the season. He starts wearing a mask of control, but slowly he reveals himself as controlled. This progression is shown in his songs. He dominates Stayed Gone, he fails to take over Hell's Greatest Dad and he loses his control in the Finale:

At the same time, both Stayed Gone and Hell's Greatest Dad set up important plot-points in Alastor's arc. On the one hand Vox's song implies him and Alastor have some unfinished business. On the other hand Lucifer's song foreshadows some deeper conflict going on between Alastor and the King of Hell. What is more, the song frames the Devil and the Radio Demon as intertwined characters.

This last point is made clear by both Dad Beat Dad and Hell's Greatest Dad referencing the Pilot multiple times.

1-Hell's Greatest Dad references Inside of Every Demon is a Lost Cause in three ways:

Alastor changes the surroundings by using neon lights, like in the Pilot

Alastor dances with Charlie in the same spot they dance in the Pilot

Lucifer summons a slot machine, like Alastor does in the Pilot

2-Both in Dad Beat Dad and in the Pilot, Alastor is trying to win Charlie's favor and to steal her away from a loved one. In the Pilot he does so with Vaggie, whereas in the episode, he gets in Lucifer's way.

3-Both the Pilot and Dad Beat Dad have a character explain Alastor's backstory:

Vaggie: He began to topple Overlords who have been dominant for centuries. That kind of raw power had never been harnessed by a mortal soul before. Then, he broadcast his carnage all throughout Hell just so everyone could witness his ability. Sinners started calling him "The Radio Demon" (as lazy as that is). Many have speculated what unimaginable force enabled him to rival our world's most ancient and destructive evils.

Mimzy: He appeared in Hell suddenly, making a splash quicker than anyone had ever seen. At first, people wanted to dismiss him. but soon, overlords started going missing, and not small ones neither. We're talking heavy. hitters. No one knew what happened to 'em, until these strange radio broadcasts started going out. All you could hear were screams. Every time an overlord went missing, there'd be a new voice screaming in the broadcast! That's when Alastor revealed himself as the radio demon, and anyone that would mess with him…  well, let's just say, his broadcasts never lacked new voices.

Why are there so many connections between the two episodes? It is to cement Lucifer and Alastor's foiling. For example, it is telling Alastor gets major focus in Lucifer's debut episode. Not only that, but all these calls back reveal their bond has been prepared and foreshadowed since the pilot:

Alastor looks at the Morningstar Family's portrait and narrows his eyes in the Pilot.

This is why the Pilot itself is full of phrases Alastor says that are given to Lucifer in the series proper:

Alastor: Well, I'm starved! Who wants some Jambalaya?

Lucifer: Sooo.... Who's up for pancakes?

Alastor: Yes, sir! This is the start of some real changes down here! The game is set! Now… Stay tuned. Hahaha…!

Lucifer: Come on, little lady, why the frown? In the last 10,000 years You're the first one to change this town!

Alastor: After all, the world is a stage and the stage is a world of entertainment.

Lucifer: The stage is wrecked, the crowd is gone But by God, Charlie! The show, it must go on!

Basically, the Radio Demon and the Devil are incredibly similar, to the point that they convey the same ideas in opposite ways. In particular, the Pilot tells us what their shared arc is gonna be:

Alastor: Hahaha, why does anyone do anything? Sheer, absolute boredom! I've lacked inspiration for decades. My work became mundane, lacking focus, aimless! I've come to crave a new form of entertainment! Hahaha!

Alastor and Lucifer are at their root two artists who are uninspired and find new drive (for different reasons) in Charlie's big lofty dream. The ways they will approach this journey and where their foiling will go is left to be seen.

FORESHADOWING

Hell's Greatest Dad has some foreshadowing for The Show Must Go On:

This frame and Lucifer's line about him charging sacrificial lambs for his help hint at how the final battle is gonna go. Dazzle, who plays the sacrificial lamb in the song, dies, which frees Lucifer from his pact with Heaven. As a matter of fact Lute kills a Hellborn, which goes against the rules, so Lucifer intervenes and saves his daughter. In short, Lucifer helps Charlie in exchange for Dazzle's life.

Here it is everything I can think of when it comes to this song! I hope you like it :) and thank you for the ask!

[lesbianneopolitan]

Adam: Stay away from the high ranks you fucking bitch!

Neo: Anyways I am going to date one seraphim and make another one my little sister. BYE FUCKER.

EXACTLY, THAT'S THE ATTITUDE LMAO Also probably an extra reason of why they disliked her disobedience

like tbf, Neo really was testing everyone's patience to see how long it would take before they kicked her on the butt

[strqyr]

What is volumen 9 beyond? Sorry, I got disconected from the fandom and this is the first time I hear that

as the official word goes: "a 4-episode storybook style anthology series telling the untold stories happening in remnant during volume 9 and beyond!"

iirc at some point it was mentioned to be more "character focused", but that was before the news about RT shutting down hit, so who knows how far they were with working on beyond at that point and if they had to change their plans to tell the stories they absolutely wanted to tell.

[lute-strings]

Alastor and Lucifer?

For the ship bingo

[winterxisxcomingx]

Get attacked!! ✨🌈SEND THIS TO OTHER BLOGGERS YOU THINK ARE WONDERFUL. KEEP THE GAME GOING🌈 HEHE>:3

AWWWWWWWWWW YOU CUTIE PATOTIE THANK U ITS SO SWEET

[luckyturtle1313]

I don't know if anybody said you this but BOOP! ♥️

boop to you too lol

[tricoloredillusion]

🍋 questions for gay muses: have they ever dealt with homophobia?

Questions for 🏳️‍🌈GAY AF MUSES🏳️‍🌈

Almost inevitably, yes, she did.

There are idiots everywhere, so Neo has had her fair amount of homophobes calling her slurs or trying to approach her a bit more aggressively about her 'not having tried good d*ck yet'.

Of course, you can imagine how that kind of shit ends- Neo had an excuse to kill them without hesitation. She's not one to mess with, specially after she started living with Torchwick and had the liberty to do whatever she wanted.

[vixien11]

Velvette x Emily as (edited) Fizzmodeus quotes because yes

-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- @dallina17-tagging you in this bc WE NEED TO SPREAD VELVETTE X EMILY PROPAGANDA

Emily: I did schedule you through lunch, but I left room for a big old breakfaaast! (Sing song voice) Velvette: Let me guess, (Eyeroll and smirk) I'm handling that too? Emily: I mean, (Flying around to grab Velvette's coffee) Unless you want me to take a crack at cooking again? Velvette: (Chuckle) Heheheh! No. Never again. Emily: Whaaaat? Maybe I can burn the milk this time! Velvette: Staaaaaawp~! Emily: (Flying behind Velvette and holding her shoulders after handing her the coffee) Oh! Oh! You know what I'm craving?? Pizza! :3 Velvette: No, you maniac! Pizza is a lunch food. (Put's down coffee cup on coffee table. She knew better than to drink it) Emily: Pizza time! Pizza time! (Holds Velvette's hands and touches there foreheads)(Makes them both hover above the ground, spinning)(They laugh together) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Velvette: About your plans... (Ordering Emily's favorite pizza) You're still going to the heaven embassy without me? Emily: (Hand fidgeting) W-well, you have a busy day, and I know you're not big on the Sera thing.. Velvette: It's still the heaven embassy! Sera let you fall, remember? Plus, I don't think you should be out on your own! Emily: (Pouty face) Ugh.. You worry too much! You know I've gotta fight for the redemption case! C'mon, Vel! I can be on my own for one day! Velvette: You're still new to hell. I don't want you to get jumped! (Worried look) I'll get you an escort... Emily: Aww! I'll can handle it! (Clasps her hands together and does puppy dog eyes) C'mon Vellyyy.. Pweaaaase? (flutters eyes) Velvette: (Snickers and smiles softly) Aw.. How could I say no to a face that cute.. Emily: Mhm! That's why I use it! Velvette: (Stroking Emily's wings) Just try to stay out of trouble, Baby Dove. Emily: (Weak kneed and smiling) Velvette! Stop! (Playfully pushes her away) Velvette: Noooo! (Spin-hug) Vox: (Walks in on them being silly cuties) Velvette: Do you mind? We're trying to have an unemotional bang sesh here! Emily: (Practicing what she and Velvette had rehearsed in a situation such as this) Yeah.. C-cuz we're so NOT in love! Vox: Yeah, okay. I don't actually care. (Pulls out phone to spy on Alastor and walks out of the room) (There was a pause as Vox closed the door) Emily: Phew! That was close!

AGHHHH THE SILLIES

[helluva-ships]

A romantic moodboard of Velvette x Emily (Angelic Vouge/Emilette/Velmily/VelvetWings)

Gift for @dallina17 and @hazbinrarepairs for getting me into this ship.

– Mod Millie-Billie~

[myth-blossom]

For the ask game: Gentleman

Thank you for the ask, @dallina17!

This is a small (clean) excerpt from a spicy WIP I have—I’m not sure if this is a one-shot or another series that I will lose myself in:

47 offered his hand to her, an action befitting the role of a respectful gentleman. But Diana recognized the intensity of his gaze as he studied her approach. There was a ravenous hunger in his eyes, a silent warning of things to come. She slipped her hand into his and shivered slightly at the possessiveness of his grip. She was meant to be the predator in this play, but perhaps she was now his prey.

[aspoonofsugar]

I feel that saving Neo should be an effort from both Jaune and Ruby. I think that Jaune should save someone, even if she is a villain, because he needs to understand that, despite everything, he still can save people, just not in the way he thinks, just as killing Penny was saving her just not in the way he thinks.

And that would fit with Neo being a minor Cinder this volume.

Me again, forgot to say this in the last question. While Ruby is the embodyment of superego, Neo is the embodyment of ID. So Ruby saving Neo would be like, she accepeting her ID, her fears and loses, while Neo being saved by Ruby could be something like, she realizing she can't live by her wishes, she needs to start having some morals.

Both of them will not learn that in just two episodes, but it will be a headstart.

Hi!

Jaune helping save Neo is possible, but not my first choice, as for now! My guess and personal preference is Jaune helping saving Ruby through revealing to her Penny's last moments.

Jaune's whole point is that to be a hero he should embrace his most traditionally feminine traits. So, vulnerability over strength. Emotional saving over physical saving. That said, I might be wrong or we may have both.

And exactly about Ruby and Neo. Neo is Ruby's Jungian Shadow this volume (well, one of many), so I think Ruby showing her mercy would be symbolicaly of her starting her own development. Especially because in the end Ruby will probably have to save Cinder too tbh.

Thank you for your thoughts!

[lesbianneopolitan]

Now I just imagined Ikki, Fat Nuggets and Canelita having a pet playing session while Neo, Charlie and Angel drink tea and see them.

YES...I APPROVE OF THIS, IT WOULD BE SO CUTE

[strqyr]

Since what age do you think a woman can become a maiden?

luckily for us, there is a word of god answer to this!

"No such thing as "too young" to be a maiden. As for "too old", we don't like having super hard-fast rules for certain things, but we've sort of unofficially figured that 30 is probably around the cutoff point to become a maiden." [source]

so, if a young kid ends up being in one of the maiden's last thoughts or gets them randomly... poor kid.

[lute-strings]

Husk and angel for the ship thing?

[fadedneonzzz]

Hello. Are they doing a new version of volume 5? I am saying that for your recent reblog. I think I've missed something.

Have a good day.

I'm not exactly sure which reblog you're referring to, but if it's the one with Cinder, Vernal, and Emerald I can tell you that it was made during V5 when we first saw the intro.

I can't speak on Tigerpaw's behalf but as far as I'm aware they aren't making a rewrite.

Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood your question

[tricoloredillusion]

❓ munday asks: three adjectives that describe you?

munday asks!

Passionate, distracted, imaginative...